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Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« on: October 13, 2007, 04:37:36 AM »
The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 on Friday to former US Vice President Al Gore and the United Nations' climate panel, citing the importance of battling global warming.

Ole D Mjøs, leader of the committee that's appointed by the Norwegian Parliament to award the Peace Prize, said the prize was to be awarded in two equal parts, to Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Mjøs said the Norwegian Nobel Committee wanted to further strengthen the focus on the importance of battling climate change by awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Gore and the IPCC, which is led by Rajendra Pachauri.

This year's winners beat out a long list of candidates around which speculation had swirled for weeks. Included among them were human rights champions including Irena Sendler of Poland, who saved 2,500 Jewish children during World War II and Thich Quang Do, a Buddhist monk in Vietnam. Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari also has been a longtime candidate because of his peace-broking efforts in the Aceh conflict in Indonesia.

Although the Nobel Committee doesn't reveal nominees, it's also believed that the Salvation Army has been a longtime candidate for the Peace Prize. All told, 181 candidates were nominated for this year's Nobel Peace Prize, including 46 organizations.

The prize itself, which carries a cash award of SEK 10 million (about USD 1.7 million), will be awarded in Oslo on December 10, the anniversary of industrialist Alfred Nobel’s death. He set up the prizes and arranged for their funding through the terms of his will.

While the other Nobel prizes are awarded in Stockholm, capital of Nobel's native Sweden, he decreed that the Peace Prize be awarded by a committee appointed by the Norwegian parliament. Norway and Sweden were in a political union at the time.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee is made up of five persons, mostly former politicians, who reflect the elected make-up of the Norwegian Parliament. Current members include Mjøs, a professor and former head of the University in Tromsø; Berge Ragnar Furre, a historian and theology professor at the University of Oslo who represented the Socialist Left party in parliament from 1973-77; Sissel Rønbeck, a member of parliament from 1977-93 from the Labour Party; Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, political adviser to the Progress Party and a member of parliament from 1989-93; and Kaci Kullmann Five, a former trade minister and member of parliament for the Conservatives from 1981-97.

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Re: Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2007, 04:48:52 AM »
yes to the effort of Al Gore and company for giving importance on how we can do to make and save our environment and the mother Earth!World Peace to all.

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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 04:57:25 AM »

Yes, but Bush won't still change his climate policy.

Quoted from the news, "Bush has consistently refused to impose mandatory caps on greenhouse gas emissions and never signed on to the Kyoto Protocol, saying it would hurt the US economy".

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Re: Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 05:00:00 AM »
I've always wondered about global warming because I always felt that a warmer planet would be a better planet, overall.  According to a couple of different sources, the warming would impact mainly night and winter weather.  Most of us, presently living in the USA, would probably benefit from higher night and winter temperatures, while those in the tropical Philippines would notice virtually no change at all.

It seems to me that people who advocate making huge changes to stop global warming have not successfully made the case that global warming is bad.  Every time I read something about global warming, I see tricks, like articles mentioning higher summer temperatures without reminding us of higher winter temperatures.  In short, they leave out positive impacts of global warming and concentrate on the negatives.  I feel like I cannot trust people like them or Al Gore to tell me the undistorted truth.

I know there are other downsides, such as rising sea levels, which look more serious.  I have not yet gotten to the part of Lomborg's book that addresses these.  But I wonder if they could not mitigated instead of trying to halt what seems like an inevitable process.  For instance, why not relocate ice in the polar icecaps to the parched middle east?  That seems far less expensive than reducing oil consumption to near-zero levels, and it would even help a fairly large population.

The last couple of winters in Pittsburgh have been much milder than previous, and although I'd still rather join Boholians in their beautiful island than stay here, the overall warming trend has certainly improved life here.  So Al Gore and friends are asking us to take our tax dollars and spend them on making the temperature colder and winters more miserable?  I can't say that's a sacrifice I'm keen on making.  I'd rather let the warming trend that's improving my life continue, while paying to mitigate its impacts on other places.

Although I haven't finished it, Bjorn Lomborg's book "Cool It" is a fascinating reference on this subject, that explores the lengths Al Gore and his allies have gone to distort the truth.

I would much rather see the money from the Nobel go to the human rights crusaders mentioned in this  article.  They have to defy certain imprisonment or murder, instead of flying around the world on cushy corporate jets like Al Gore.  And to be honest I don't think the $800k or so Al Gore would get would make a lot of difference in his life, while the human rights advocates have nothing and it would really transform their lives.

If, of course, they could actually lay their hands on it.

Sigh.

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Re: Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 06:01:04 AM »
i think you are right there David but there's always politics in every aspect of the game!poor me!

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 06:07:08 AM »
Politicians are just discussing how to solve our global problems but they are not a good examples for this aim. It did remains blah...blah.....and  blah... wanting  every individual  to participate how to find a solution by way of every households  power reduction (energize)  while they are free traveling alone with private jets. What a useless extravagance! The media reports centered to this problem,  but there could be no exact  solution for this serious climate warming, in fact, it is getting worser.

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Re: Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2007, 06:23:19 AM »
Politics is indeed everywhere, Frog70.  It's useful to try and understand what's going on.

James Taranto of opinionjournal.com (the WSJ's editorial page) points out that the Nobel committee wasn't terribly successful in predicting winners for peace in its previous nominees.  For example, they gave Yassar Arafat a Nobel, and then he almost single-handedly managed the peace process straight into the ground.

I can understand that, but giving $1.5 million to a Cuban dissident group sure would have been cool.  It would have embarassed the heck out of Castro, which I would have loved to see.  (You may remember from my other posts that I've been to Cuba and have some understanding of what they face.)

But people seem to have been persuaded about global warming, more due to slick propaganda than actual science, and that worries me a lot more than warming itself.  

Bambi, if you read the propaganda about global warming, they essentially say that we have to stop driving and stop heating our homes in the winter and cooling them in the summer, and maybe if we make all those sacrifices we won't destroy the planet.

What you don't hear is that people in China and India are industrializing, and they have ten times the people we do, and they are refusing to do their part to reduce global warming.

What this means is that global warming will happen, like it or not, and the best thing to do is figure out how to mitigate the consequences.  Thus my idea to move the polar ice caps to Dubai, where they will form giant lakes in the Global Warming Mansions Phase I-XXXII real estate development, instead of increasing sea levels.  That may sound silly but I don't think it's any more absurd than the idea of us discontinuing the burning of fossil fuels.

Now, intriguingly enough there is hope for people against global warming long-term.  People like the founders of Tesla Motors are creating electric cars that are more fun to drive than gas vehicles and have the same range.  And new nuclear power plants are being built in the US for the first time; nuclear energy has a far better safety record than coal, and it does not contribute to global warming.

So what does this mean to you and I?  Quietly working behind the scenes, solutions are being developed that will dramatically reduce the use of fossil fuels and that in turn will reduce global warming.  Will they work on time to prevent the globe for being too hot even for me and most Filipinos?  Will Pittsburgh become a tropical island?

Well, to be honest, I wish it would.

But I'm not counting on it.  Human ingenuity has been counted out many times during the course of history, but it's always come through.  So be of good cheer.  The apocalypse is unlikely, but if it happens, well, I will have some tropical Pittsburgh real estate to sell all you guys :-).

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Re: Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2007, 06:29:37 AM »
David,thanks for sharing all the informations here and i must admit that some important things i must have left to study and know more!poor me....

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2007, 07:07:14 AM »
Hi David,

Yes, absolutely correct what you had cited about the Chinese and what the Indian people contributed to make the climate changes more efficient to the worst. It is sad.....however, the 10 strong countries.....U.S-A. Germany, Japan, China and the rest - who are on power when it comes to industrialization, more economic profits never think how bad price effectivity resulted out of it, it is only the poor countries must have to suffer and feel the imposition...of course, Philippines is also much affected to the climate warming ...it is getting more hot and the extreme humidity is sometimes  unbearable to weak/old people.

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Re: Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 07:46:42 AM »
Bambi, do you have information showing the Philippines getting warmer, and how much? 

I'd like to see links to it if so.

Thanks.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2007, 08:42:40 AM »
David,
Sorry.....i have no exact proof.......
I just feel and noticed it because since the year 2000 I was every year home for a period of 4 weeks every visit due to  my mother's situation, she is now very old and sickly. Could also be the reason, feeling it more unbearable for I've been almost 28 years residing in a colder place.  But you have nothing to worry Sir...if you will stay longer you will be used to of it.  How often you were already visited Philippines? What part that makes you more fascinated? It is not really too fear alarming but just apply enough skin/sun protection.  The sea breezes relieves you and the beauty of the nature and ladies charm and beauty is quite admiring.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 09:16:31 AM »
I love the combination of the tropical environment and a low cost of loving.  I have projects I could run from anywhere in the world, so why not from a place of beauty?

And of course there is that Fimipina charm.  I net many, from the GROs of Angeles to professionals in Bacolod, it was very much in evidence.  I think that non-confrontational attitude blends very well with my rather laid back personality. 

I went to Manila, Angeles and Bscolod.  I liked Bacolod a lot but there didn't seem to be much connection to the water, which I really wanted.  So I figured I would try and find sone medium sized island like Negros but with more of a bea h environment.

I know I could pick Boracay, but it sounds like it might be too congested for by taste.  So Bohol looked very interesting.  And so far I have really lijed the Bohol people I've met both here and elsewhere.

Was that a good answer to your question?

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PS I apologize for mistakes - i'm tapping this out on my iPhone.


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