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Global "Great Depression" looming?
« on: June 28, 2007, 02:44:00 PM »
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk">The Telegraph UK</a>

The Bank for International Settlements, the world's most prestigious financial body, has warned that years of loose monetary policy has fuelled a dangerous credit bubble, leaving the global economy more vulnerable to another 1930s-style slump than generally understood.

"Virtually nobody foresaw the Great Depression of the 1930s, or the crises which affected Japan and southeast Asia in the early and late 1990s. In fact, each downturn was preceded by a period of non-inflationary growth exuberant enough to lead many commentators to suggest that a 'new era' had arrived", said the bank.

The BIS, the ultimate bank of central bankers, pointed to a confluence a worrying signs, citing mass issuance of new-fangled credit instruments, soaring levels of household debt, extreme appetite for risk shown by investors, and entrenched imbalances in the world currency system.

"Behind each set of concerns lurks the common factor of highly accommodating financial conditions. Tail events affecting the global economy might at some point have much higher costs than is commonly supposed," it said.

The BIS said China may have repeated the disastrous errors made by Japan in the 1980s when Tokyo let rip with excess liquidity.

"The Chinese economy seems to be demonstrating very similar, disquieting symptoms," it said, citing ballooning credit, an asset boom, and "massive investments" in heavy industry.

Some 40pc of China's state-owned enterprises are loss-making, exposing the banking system to likely stress in a downturn.

It said China's growth was "unstable, unbalanced, uncoordinated and unsustainable", borrowing a line from Chinese premier Wen Jiabao

In a thinly-veiled rebuke to the US Federal Reserve, the BIS said central banks were starting to doubt the wisdom of letting asset bubbles build up on the assumption that they could safely be "cleaned up" afterwards - which was more or less the strategy pursued by former Fed chief Alan Greenspan after the dotcom bust.

It said this approach had failed in the US in 1930 and in Japan in 1991 because excess debt and investment built up in the boom years had suffocating effects.

While cutting interest rates in such a crisis may help, it has the effect of transferring wealth from creditors to debtors and "sowing the seeds for more serious problems further ahead."

The bank said it was far from clear whether the US would be able to shrug off the consequences of its latest imbalances, citing a current account deficit running at 6.5pc of GDP, a rise in US external liabilities by over $4 trillion from 2001 to 2005, and an unpredented drop in the savings rate. "The dollar clearly remains vulnerable to a sudden loss of private sector confidence," it said.

The BIS said last year's record issuance of $470bn in collateralized debt obligations (CDO), and a further $524bn in "synthetic" CDOs had effectively opened the lending taps even further. "Mortgage credit has become more available and on easier terms to borrowers almost everywhere. Only in recent months has the downside become more apparent," it said.

CDO's are bond-like packages of mortgages and other forms of debt. The BIS said banks transfer the exposure to buyers of the securities, giving them little incentive to assess risk or carry out due diligence.

Mergers and takeovers reached $4.1 trillion worldwide last year.

Leveraged buy-outs touched $753bn, with an average debt/cash flow ratio hitting a record 5:4.

"Sooner or later the credit cycle will turn and default rates will begin to rise," said the bank.

"The levels of leverage employed in private equity transactions have raised questions about their longer-term sustainability. The strategy depends on the availability of cheap funding," it said.

That may not last much longer.

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2008, 09:37:39 PM »
I hope not. I truly hope that this won't happen any time soon.

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2008, 11:00:42 PM »
It is happening Dodong.

And everybody up THERE know all about it and made them worry a lot!

Mao lagi na giingon ni Benne san nga ug mag hatsi na ta ang ubang nasud will get the cold.

The symptom is already appearing, sad to say.

People in the 30's were so un aware, nagmata nalang sila one day nga wala na sila jamo!

Guys dont be blinded. Better save your money if you have/if you can  now.

AHORA MISMO!



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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2008, 11:07:02 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 11:13:16 PM »
There is a great deal of uneasiness in the States right now, Ms BeLLe. Home Depot just closed down 15 stores recently, and are scrapping previous plans of building 35 new stores. Builders in our area have become so desperate that some of them have lowered the price of their houses up to 100k, para lang gyud mahalin. A lot of credit companies have gone bankrupt. Gas prices are astronomical. Retail sales are way down, and people have been fired for it. Those who weren't fired, their hours have been severely cut back. Yes, these are uneasy times indeed.

There might come a time nga makauli gyud ko sa atoa ani, magtanom camote. Mabuhi pa ko.

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 11:18:32 PM »
bwahahah!

sagulan lagi dayun ug pakatok!

bitaw no, daghan na gani gipang uli nga cars kay di na sila kabayad plus mahal ang gas.

mobalik na tingali ta sa bike ani?

and yes Thyl, daghan diri balay nga mga dagko kaayo wa mahalin kay wa nay mo palit.

huy how ya doin'?

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 11:26:13 PM »
I am doing good, Ms BeLLe. My allergies have calmed down. Nag lie low nako sa Zyrtec ron. Hahaha. Daghan btaw kaayo foreclosures karon oi. But I am hopeful. Maayo unta kaning election will have a positive impact on the economy. Pero if all hell breaks loose, aw mobakwit ko sa Pilipinas oi. Anad man pud ko kinabuhing cowboy ba. Tanom camote, tuslob sa ginamos, paresan kangkong, payts na! Kaning akong banana akong problema kay pilian ug pagkaon, mura'g true.

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2008, 11:55:00 PM »
Huy naa sad kay allergy? Thyl akong allergy has been bothering me for a long time now! maayo gani wa ko hubaka! real bad, the first time na ing ani ko. I am only taking claritin OTC and yet mag drowsy pa japun ko. It made me lazy pero i have to move kay mura sad ko ug hilantanon ug di ko molihok, but im feeling a bit better. Sayu gud ko tigkatulog magabii kay agi sa Claritin hahaha! nalutas gamay sa TB.

Anyhow, gimingaw na noon ko anang imong mga lagutmon nga gi mention.

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 12:01:07 AM »
Gimingaw btaw pud ko'g adobong kangkong oist. Unsa man english name ana Ms BeLLe? Naa ba kaha na dire?

Effective ba ang Claritin nimo? Try Zyrtec if Claritin stops working for you. It's a better allergy medicine. The only downside is, it causes more drowsiness than Claritin.

Mura na btaw ko tralala dire Ms BeLLe, I go to www.pollen.com to monitor pollen counts in our area. Hopefully this allergy season will be over soon.

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 12:05:05 AM »
nag lung-ag  ko agi sa imong gi jama jama! hahahaha

nang limpyo sad ko sigi lang ko vacuum ani kay ang ongo ug si Louie sigi dala ug pollen gikan sa gawas!

molakaw na sad mi sa Tuesday pohon so andamon nako ang among dad-onon.

sus lagi oi! ana sad ko Thyl sigi ko tan aw ug pollen count. mas daghan man karong tuiga!

last year dili kaayo ing ani...

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 12:10:57 AM »
You're right, Ms BeLLe. I don't recall being this sick last year. Mas grabe a pollen this year. Oist, pag take daghan pics sa Vegas ha. Ka exciting ba ana oi.

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 04:59:57 AM »
I wanted to eat KFC today.  We went to the outlet close to our house.  They were supposed to open at 10:30 but it was already past 11 and the store was still closed so I said, let's just go to McDo, thinking that McDos here are like Jollibee.  It's my first time to go to a McDonald's for over 10 years - well except to just drive thru for french fries.  Anyhow,  I asked the Mexican lady if they have Chicken Thighs and legs.  She said yes so I said I'd like 3 pieces.  It was so hard to understand what she was saying so I just kept on saying yes.  She gave me an emply paper cup so I supposed I was to get free drinks.  Murage paid 6 dollars.  The she gave me a paper bag containing the food.  I peeped in it and there was a large fries and a tiny box, I was thinking where my chicken thighs and legs were.  But the box was so tiny.  I checked it out when I got home kay na busy man pod kaon sa fries.  To my great surprise, I only had three small strips of chicken!  Murage was laughing.  He said, with the money you paid, you can already get a whole big o chicken! Then he added, I guess we are really on our way to recession!  :D

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 05:17:40 AM »
there are a lot of scary rumors out there and it all started even since last year when the Canadian and Euro money became higher than a $.

My hubby and I's money market accounts, before, the interest was 8 % then down to 6% then down to 4.5 % sus lately nahimo na gyud intawng 2.6% Can you imagine how big drop that is?
Unya ang friend ni Bob na bankcrupt few years ago kay ang iyang stocks nga millions, nahimong cents. But he's doing alright now.
Then just lately, one of my credit card company offered me a 50% discount to rent an SUV! Ingon ani na gyud intawn sila ka desperate.
Unya karon, dili gyud ko makatuo sa news, si Pres.B ming demand napod ug another billions to give to the war in Iraq. Baw kung duna pa ba kahay miracle nga modagayday sa iyang utok nga moingon ug "intawn, pagmata na Mr.Pres".

Unya kining rumors napod bahin aning another great depression, mag-ampo nalang ta ani.

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 05:28:35 AM »
It is happening Dodong.

And everybody up THERE know all about it and made them worry a lot!

Mao lagi na giingon ni Benne san nga ug mag hatsi na ta ang ubang nasud will get the cold.

The symptom is already appearing, sad to say.

People in the 30's were so un aware, nagmata nalang sila one day nga wala na sila jamo!

Guys dont be blinded. Better save your money if you have/if you can  now.

AHORA MISMO!



It is our non-stop spending that caused this looming recession. We brought it on ourselves. It is just hard to comprehend that the United States, the economic giant that it is, is experiencing such financial hard times. A nation that boasts an economy of 13+ Trillion Dollars a year. Then I read reports of how much we're spending on this Iraqi situation. We are spending $5,000,000,000.00 a day. So far we have accumulated over $1 Trillion dollars in debt just on the military alone. And what do we have to show for it? It grieves me to aquiesce to the fact that this country hasn't even caught Osama Bin Laden, and nor is the situation in Iraq improving.

I can only hope that the economy jumps again. What we DO need to do is start securing American jobs. We're too dependent on foreign states. What affects them, affects us. Specially our laughable dependence on oil. What we DO need to do is start developing renewable resources such as hydrogen fuel cells. Japan has done it, so has the Netherlands and countless other western european states.

Its amazes me how much government talks about change. The need of change. But as we speak, the same government in power is still formulating contracts and strategic initiatives with OPEC states. We are giving them the power to control our economy. We need to stop this parasitic dependency.

I hope change comes soon. Else we continue to linger in this so called 'thread'.

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2008, 05:34:04 AM »
there are a lot of scary rumors out there and it all started even since last year when the Canadian and Euro money became higher than a $.

My hubby and I's money market accounts, before, the interest was 8 % then down to 6% then down to 4.5 % sus lately nahimo na gyud intawng 2.6% Can you imagine how big drop that is?
Unya ang friend ni Bob na bankcrupt few years ago kay ang iyang stocks nga millions, nahimong cents. But he's doing alright now.
Then just lately, one of my credit card company offered me a 50% discount to rent an SUV! Ingon ani na gyud intawn sila ka desperate.
Unya karon, dili gyud ko makatuo sa news, si Pres.B ming demand napod ug another billions to give to the war in Iraq. Baw kung duna pa ba kahay miracle nga modagayday sa iyang utok nga moingon ug "intawn, pagmata na Mr.Pres".

Unya kining rumors napod bahin aning another great depression, mag-ampo nalang ta ani.

I speculated the same thing as well, Beth. American unrestrained consumption drives this discourse. Back in 2000, the dollar was worth more than the Euro. As soon as we engaged in this War, the Euro overtook the Dollar.

Now, even the Canadian Dollar is worth more than the American Dollar.

This is a concern as for years, the American Dollar was always worth more than the Canadian Dollar.

Our loans, our lethargy, and complete dependence on others is the destabilizing factor for our country.

Dependence on fuel, dependence on manufacturing, dependence on service, so on so forth.

I agree with the concept of Defensive Americanism. Keeping American Jobs for American people. The more we export jobs to foreigners, the less there will be for us, the American people. It is so simple, yet so expansive, in concept. The less jobs there are, the higher the unemployment rate. Which affects tax income. Which influences and increases the strain on financial assistance sectors. How can we provide financial assistance when overall American jobs are being exported away. This affects tax payment.

Which all goes back to American jobs. We need to protect it for American citizens.

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2008, 05:54:14 AM »
All our answers, speculations and hopes will all be answered after the election of the next President in the United States of America. God help us and all nations all over the world for Peace and Unity that it will reign forever for the next generations to enjoy. 

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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2008, 02:07:00 AM »
The "Aloha Airlines" here in Hawaiian Isles is no longer in service even their cargo planes gihunong fud due to high fuel cost kono, hahayyzzz daghan intawon na-unemployed.

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2008, 02:16:52 AM »
There is a report, guys. I read it today in the Economist Journal, apparently in the Month of March 2008, over 75,000 American jobs were lost. Most of these jobs were IT-based, and manufacturing based. Sent abroad.

In the month of April 2008 alone, 20,000 more American jobs were lost. And again, they were mostly IT-based, and manufacturing.

Do we see a pattern here?

Reclaim our jobs for the American people. Stop these ridiculous tax breaks for the 2% rich elite! Why are the middle class burdened with ridiculous tax increases, and at the same time the middle class is being attacked--giving our jobs away to foreigners.

Mr. Bush! and your Republican Party, what are you doing for our people? Do you expect us to dangle in the wallows of your economic failure?

Why are we even in Iraq? Pull our troops back, now! We are spending $5 BILLION a DAY! for this war! Over 4,000 American soldiers dead. Over 75,000 American soldiers have been maimed or severely wounded.

And at the same time, we are spending billions for this war, which will soon hit over 1 Trillion Dollar mark, you are giving our jobs away to India, China, etc!



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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2008, 02:32:13 AM »
Pattern? yes, I do see it.  We need to keep our jobs inside our boundaries.  Solve the illegal problem don't just sweep it under the rug.  Bin Laden a*s is DEAD! Now, bring all U.S. Troops safely back home.  The Bushs are in the oil business and now the family are event more richer than ever. And yes, the United States are in RECESSION.

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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2008, 03:30:15 AM »
yups! Recession period jed, mag-tipid na lang jud sa ta ron, ang toilet i-flush na lang ug ka-usa sa usa ka adlaw para katipid sa H2O, magkalingaw na lang ko ug law-oy deres akong kamunggay...

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2008, 03:39:15 AM »
I am doing good, Ms BeLLe. My allergies have calmed down. Nag lie low nako sa Zyrtec ron. Hahaha. Daghan btaw kaayo foreclosures karon oi. But I am hopeful. Maayo unta kaning election will have a positive impact on the economy. Pero if all hell breaks loose, aw mobakwit ko sa Pilipinas oi. Anad man pud ko kinabuhing cowboy ba. Tanom camote, tuslob sa ginamos, paresan kangkong, payts na! Kaning akong banana akong problema kay pilian ug pagkaon, mura'g true.

Ikaw, musta?


sige Ethyl manguli ta didto kay aron mo-apil ta sa pila sa NFA rice, taas ra ba ang pila, patas-an pa nato.

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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2008, 03:50:22 AM »
Maayo manka diha Swaks kay naa may kamunggay nga makuhit kung walay sud-an, ako manginhas unta, nya saon nga wala may hunasan ring ilang dagat diri.

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2008, 04:26:58 AM »
Its time to adopt Orchids idea nga mananom ug gulay sa atong mga kaang @ least sagol na lang paliton.

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2008, 06:28:14 AM »
Maayo manka diha Swaks kay naa may kamunggay nga makuhit kung walay sud-an, ako manginhas unta, nya saon nga wala may hunasan ring ilang dagat diri.
Happy, mao lagi naay kamungay pero tapulan man fud ko magharos... toinkz!

Happs, pag-scuba dive na lang or snorkel & pagdala ug pana para mamana na lang ka diha kay wa may honasan... hehehe

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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2008, 09:00:54 AM »
Sad thing about recession is that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. What we fear becomes true.

It may start with an external event, such as accumulated mortgage arrears, then turns into a foreclosure crisis, which grips everyone's mind... Then everyone is into a scrimping mode, cutting down on spending, which in turns results in lay-offs, more foreclosures, etc.

Japan is in no better position. It is the first time, in my long stay here, that  I've heard of TV commentators discussing butter running out of stock, soy sauce prices rising for the first time in 30 years, not to mention gasoline prices spiking up...

Murag joke-joke lang nato ang camote ug kangkong, but it seems it's no laughing matter on our dinner table in Tagbilaran. You see, our family doesn't really eat much of meat and we're more into veggies and fish. During my wife's first week in Tagbi, she called me up bubbling about the price of kangkong in Dao wet market... P2.50 per bundle... and camote (also a favorite of the Pangasinanenses) abound... Among our native veggies, kangkong has become the favorite of the kids. They think it tastes like spinach.

Our decision to relocate to Tagbilaran has really been good for us so far. The kids are enjoying their childhood for the first time... And what used to be our budget for housing alone in Japan can now cover a lot of other things--including hobbies our children would like to pursue but we found so hard to finance here...

Sige, manguli na lang ta tanan sa Bohol and let's have a TuBo Village (acronym courtesy of GEC)...

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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2008, 09:03:21 AM »
I agree Sir Benne aning manguli na ta.How I wish to live in our TuBo Village.

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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2008, 09:40:41 AM »
I agree Sir Benne aning manguli na ta.How I wish to live in our TuBo Village.

Ug nagtapok na tang tanan sa TuBo Village, diri lang kaha ta gihapon sa computer mag-istorya?

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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2008, 10:25:26 AM »
Mao na ang mahitabo kay bisan mangajo ug asin sa computer gihapon ipaagi. ;D

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2008, 02:09:52 PM »
na bahala ug lisud dere sa u.s. oi, dere lang jud ko for now kay mas lisud didto sa ato, kapit sa patalim ang mga tawo, means daghang tulis, kawat & robberies...etc.

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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2008, 09:23:03 AM »
Sir Bene, serious baya ko anang camote ug kangkong. I love kangkong too, esp kanang gi adobo.

I was watching the news the other night, there were 1.7 million homes foreclosed in 2007, up 53% from 2006. And they're saying, mas daghan pa gyud kuno this year. Also, the city gov't of Atlanta laid off 700 employees kay nagkalisod na gyud sila, wala'y kuarta. I was so bothered that I didn't sleep at all. Sige lang ko huna huna. You were right about the self-fulfilling prophecy. Tinuod gyud na.



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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2008, 12:29:43 PM »
wa tay mahims... magtipid na lang sa jud ron.

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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2008, 03:34:45 AM »
One day one eat nalang ta karon, swaks.

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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2008, 06:18:06 AM »
Sir Bene, serious baya ko anang camote ug kangkong. I love kangkong too, esp kanang gi adobo.

I was watching the news the other night, there were 1.7 million homes foreclosed in 2007, up 53% from 2006. And they're saying, mas daghan pa gyud kuno this year. Also, the city gov't of Atlanta laid off 700 employees kay nagkalisod na gyud sila, wala'y kuarta. I was so bothered that I didn't sleep at all. Sige lang ko huna huna. You were right about the self-fulfilling prophecy. Tinuod gyud na.





Same here in Michigan Thyl. Thinking nga ang Michigan was one of the richest state in the country, nag aginod jud.

One thing akong na observed sa kadalanan noh? in every like 40+miles naa may rest area? ang uban na closed!

I asked my banana nga is that how broke our country is kay hasta ang mga rest area gisirado-an naman?

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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2008, 07:27:16 AM »
bwahahah!

sagulan lagi dayun ug pakatok!

bitaw no, daghan na gani gipang uli nga cars kay di na sila kabayad plus mahal ang gas.

mobalik na tingali ta sa bike ani?

and yes Thyl, daghan diri balay nga mga dagko kaayo wa mahalin kay wa nay mo palit.

huy how ya doin'?

That's true,kami pod dire choosed to use the kei (mini) vehicles kay mahal na ang gasolina.Maglakaw na lang gani ko kung makaya.Dalang exercise noon,but di unta ing-ani ba.Saon na lang akong mga coming kaapohan no?

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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2008, 07:47:01 AM »
That's true,kami pod dire choosed to use the kei (mini) vehicles kay mahal na ang gasolina.Maglakaw na lang gani ko kung makaya.Dalang exercise noon,but di unta ing-ani ba.Saon na lang akong mga coming kaapohan no?

Ako, kung ang tuyo within 2 ~ 4 km radius from my office, bisekleta lang ko. Good for your sense of well-being and health. Depressed na ang ekonomiya, depressed pa ang imong mood, flat-tire na jud ta. According to health and exercise writer Paige Waehner, exercise:

    * Increases your sense of mastery which can help for people who don't feel in control of their lives and moods
    * Increases self-esteem
    * Provides a distraction from your worries
    * Improves your health and body, which can help lift your mood
    * Helps you get rid of built-up stress and frustration
    * Helps you sleep better, which can often be a problem when you're depressed

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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2008, 12:15:08 PM »
The looming depression is visible on the prices for gasoline. Today, I filled up my SUV, it took $55 to fill it up. I was astonished to see the price had risen to $3.70 per gallon. I can still remember when the price for a gallon of gas was $2.50 last year. Cost of groceries are also rising, an effect of the depreciating dollar.



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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2008, 06:33:47 AM »
Btaw dong, mahal na gyud kaayo ang gas. I remember that price pud last year, perte pa gani to reklamo sa mga tawo nga mahal kuno kaayo nang $2.50, unya karon unsa na ni nga hapit naman ma $4.00, sus faet gyud.

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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2008, 06:44:29 AM »
dire tag 0.50 SAR/liter raman ang regular then 0.65 SAR/liter lang ng premium.

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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2008, 10:04:17 AM »
You are living in the land that produces fine-grade petroleum. Prices, by right, will be cheaper as compared to the country that is importing it some ten thousand miles away.



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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2008, 06:48:32 PM »
WE'll see what this new President can do. we'll just see...

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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2008, 06:03:21 AM »
WE'll see what this new President can do. we'll just see...
Bella, i heard nga dili na mag-gama ang Ford ug big trucks kay wa na may mamalit kay mas mahal pa ang deisel kaysa gas.

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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2008, 10:08:27 AM »
Sus Tinuod jud na Swaks, ang akong banana kay ang ijang truck diesel man, mao kani na sad akong karomata sigi huwaman!

Swaks pwerte na jud kamahal, nasamot na mo diha sa Hawaii 5-0 kay mas mahal man mo kanunay diha!

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« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2008, 12:20:17 PM »
Bella, singko na kapin ang reg. nga gas dere, we are still doing ok kay naa pa man work bisan ug mahal ang mga palaliton.

sa hotel na lang gani ko mamawi ug kaon kay libre man, toinkz! hehe

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« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2008, 09:34:32 AM »
^ka nindot gud nimo swaks, cge lang ka kaon ug lami diha nga putahe diay? hehe

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« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2008, 01:54:17 PM »
^ka nindot gud nimo swaks, cge lang ka kaon ug lami diha nga putahe diay? hehe
bisan ug dili lami C2 basta libre ok pas olryt, ipanuksuk gani nako ang pastries sa akong bulsa maau na lang naay masima-sima inig ka palis...

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« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2008, 02:34:05 PM »
hahahah nalingaw ko Swaks! 

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« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2008, 09:32:24 AM »
hahahah nalingaw ko Swaks! 
maau na lang Grace naa tay koot-kooton samtang maglimpyos kuarto... watta life!

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