Author Topic: Only in Valencia: the "an" thing (Read 7605 times)

TOPAC · « **on:** December 08, 2008, 12:29:41 PM »

please share with us anything about valencia's endemic "an". your experiences, your idea on its origin..

when i was in mindanao, a friend of mine laughed at me because when i asked him after eating davao's mangosteen i said: "lami an" to which he replied "ann ba diay akong ngalan"

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grazie7y · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2008, 01:08:33 PM »

Mura'g di lang man yata taga Valencia motubag ing-ana, calle. pareho ra man yata na'g "hagu an, lagu an, hugaw an, etc.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2008, 01:18:12 PM »

mao ba? i thought diha mga taga valencia ray muingun ug "an" murag ang mga taga garcia ug jagna dili mu "an" kay magbinuang pud na sila nako. hehehe

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slackware · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2008, 06:41:02 PM »

lahi man sa valencia an. kada sentence naa man gyud word na an. pati sad sa dimiao an. di ba an bisan pa mangutana mo sa original na taga valencia ug dimiao an? di ba an? lahi2x man gyud ta an ug sinultihan dire sa bohol an!

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #4 on:** December 09, 2008, 04:17:59 AM »

in valencia, "an" is used in the same way when we say "no" at the end of a sentence when soliciting response (whether affirmation or negation) from the person we are talking to.

for example:

in standard bisaya: Lami kaayo ang lechon, no?
in valencia : Lami jamo ang lechon, an?

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grazie7y · « **Reply #5 on:** December 09, 2008, 06:53:46 AM »

Ah, so mao diay na ang extent sa gamit sa Valencia ug "an"! Now I get it.

Naa mi friend dire na taga Albay, hilig pod ug "an".

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #6 on:** December 09, 2008, 06:58:13 AM »

i used to have a bicolano friend some years ago and as far as i can remember, he used "an" when he meant to say "ang".

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grazie7y · « **Reply #7 on:** December 09, 2008, 07:20:21 AM »

This Bicolana friend of our, she says something like this when we are talking, "ano na an day..."

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TOPAC · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2008, 08:49:06 AM »

scholarly bolingitboy! thanks

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2008, 11:41:43 PM »

although it was never explained to me, i figured out how the word "an" is used distinctively different in valencia from the way my grandma used to talk.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2008, 11:42:41 PM »

sure, calle. glad to have contributed something, however mundane :-)

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TOPAC · « **Reply #11 on:** December 10, 2008, 08:43:40 AM »

how did your grandma talk? i don't think valencia's use of "an" is different from your grandma's. as long as she comes from the valencia-dimiao areas (valencia used to ba part of dimiao) i bet its the same.

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2008, 10:01:22 PM »

my grandma's use of "an" is as gramatically correct as it can get being a certified, true-blue valencianhon.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:48:05 PM »

mao ba??? tsk tsk kinsa?

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:01:41 PM »

wala na siya. she comes from the namoc and salvaleon clans.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #15 on:** December 12, 2008, 10:33:46 AM »

familiar names. my great great grandfather is namoc. bisan ijang lubong sa mintiryo wa na ko kaabot.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #16 on:** December 12, 2008, 02:37:30 PM »

Naay Joseph Namoc dire active kaayo sa mga kalihukan sa simbahan ug mga Pinoy activities.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2008, 02:45:13 PM »

na, wa koy nailhan nga side sa mga namoc.. hehehe

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A Layman · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2008, 06:12:24 PM »

Naa mi friend dire na taga Albay, hilig pod ug "an". -Grazie

Mam Grazie ang mga taga Albay mahilig na sa mga ginata-an, an? Sinili-an, an?

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grazie7y · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2008, 03:40:34 AM »

Oi, Sir A Layman, ajaw ko i ma'am tawon, an!

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2008, 06:25:48 AM »

calle: basig parente ciguro ta.
grazie: the name joseph namoc sounds familiar. got to know this name back in high school. or pwede pud daghan sila having the same name.

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A Layman · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2008, 07:49:05 AM »

Oi, Sir A Layman, ajaw ko i ma'am tawon, an!

Ngano man diay Mam Grazie, an? Ma an kaman diay?

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Asianfairy2 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2008, 07:54:14 AM »

Hala basig parente nis akong uyab as una. he..he..

Morag di man taga Valencia ra migamit aning "an". daghan mas Bohol nga di taga Valencia mo "an" pod.:-)

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Ginger · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2008, 08:09:30 AM »

wala na siya. she comes from the namoc and salvaleon clans.

bolingitboy, you know barney namoc balingit or balingkit?

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A Layman · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2008, 08:15:05 AM »

Akong classmate sa una si Primitivo Namoc ka moko' an man pod to sija.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #25 on:** December 15, 2008, 08:27:15 AM »

minjo na man si barney gingah! uyab mo sauna? naa syay gasoline station sa sur (actually, part pa daw na sa catug-an), diha dapit sa kabaskan nga kausa ra mabuhat sa duha ka tuig.

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Ginger · « **Reply #26 on:** December 15, 2008, 06:31:37 PM »

minjo na man si barney gingah! uyab mo sauna? naa syay gasoline station sa sur (actually, part pa daw na sa catug-an), diha dapit sa kabaskan nga kausa ra mabuhat sa duha ka tuig.

ngek! ig-agaw mi oi. lol!

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bolingitboy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 15, 2008, 10:01:27 PM »

asianfairy: taga valencia pud ka? you know what? just now i noticed that you used "as" to mean "sa". you must be from valencia. my grandma used "as" a lot. this is a particular grammar usage which is peculiar only to valencia.
gingah: sorry, i don't know who barney is pero nakaila man diay si calle. he could very well be one of the many relatives in valencia that i haven't met yet.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #28 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:00:02 AM »

Oi, Sir A Layman, ajaw ko i ma'am tawon, an!

Ngano man diay Mam Grazie, an? Ma an kaman diay?

Mr. A Lay, mag iskwela pa ko pagka ma'am, an! hehehe

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grazie7y · « **Reply #29 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:01:25 AM »

Hala basig parente nis akong uyab as una. he..he..

Morag di man taga Valencia ra migamit aning "an". daghan mas Bohol nga di taga Valencia mo "an" pod.:-)

Hello Sis A, kmusta na an? Drop by lang ko kadali kay gakalingaw ko ani an. Busy ko karong panahon. I hope you are fine. And so is MIL and the rest of your family.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #30 on:** December 16, 2008, 04:09:43 PM »

ngek! ig-agaw mi oi. lol!

aw, unsa ba. murag sige pa syag sakay sa barko run. ijang asawa magbantay sa gasolinahan kung was barney. murag gibutangan naman siguro ug security guard kay hadlok tulis didto kay mingaw adtong dapita.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2008, 07:45:02 AM »

Calle, naa na ka sa Valencia karon? Agi dayon didto sa Villa Tarcela please dayon pahulagway.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2008, 09:24:40 AM »

nakaadto na ko. gisuroy mi sa nagbantay dihas august. mauwaw ko mubalik. lol

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udtohan · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2008, 09:47:47 AM »

It's not only in Valencia but also in Dimiao. In Lila, they use "gay (guy)

Dimiao/Valencia: Lami jamu ang lechon an?
Lila: Lami jamu ang lechon, gay?

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udtohan · « **Reply #34 on:** December 17, 2008, 09:48:59 AM »

Calle, naa na ka sa Valencia karon? Agi dayon didto sa Villa Tarcela please dayon pahulagway.

for the past days, kapunay ko biyahe for the field evaluation.,....nalabyan nako ang Villa Tarcela... but never been there.

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Asianfairy2 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:05:10 AM »

Sis Grazie sore karon pako kabasa ani. dapyasdapyas raning akong paglaag dire permi.
Sis Praise the Lord gyod kay nabaskog na akong MIL. Gidungog gyod mga prayers! It's a miracle gyod sis.

Hi Calle, kinsa diay ka? baye ka or laki?
El Mundo sunod kalugar ka hapit unya didto. Jerome told me you're a friend.
He is such a nice guy and I like him. He is very accomodating.

El Mundo if you have time on Dec 27, 28, 29 or 30. (Choose any day on these dates.) I will reserve a room for you to stay 1 day and 1 night with a romantic dinner. Bring your lady. My christmas gift to you.
What do you think?:-)

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TOPAC · « **Reply #36 on:** December 18, 2008, 01:16:36 PM »

asianfairy2: kaloy-i sa dios, laki ko. lumad valencianhon nga karun anaa na nahimuyo sa manila. kaila ko imu papa kay mag tiyo lucio man ako papa nija. kaliwat sa mga tagaro akong lola. pero murag wa siguro ka kaila namu kay murag virtually unknown man mi sa valencia.

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Asianfairy2 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 18, 2008, 06:10:27 PM »

Hi Calle. Mao ba? kon mao man gani ig agaw pa diay ta. Unya kon kaliwat Tagaro imo lola that means gwafo pod ka kay mga gwafo baya kaliwat ning mga Tagaro puyra buyag. he..he..

I'm thinking kinsa kahay name sa imo lola. :-)

Iregards nalang kos imo family. Ug Merry christmas and Happy new year pod.

PS. Naa naba kay uyab kay kon wa pa ako ka tagaan. :-)

Cheers!

asianfairy2: kaloy-i sa dios, laki ko. lumad valencianhon nga karun anaa na nahimuyo sa manila. kaila ko imu papa kay mag tiyo lucio man ako papa nija. kaliwat sa mga tagaro akong lola. pero murag wa siguro ka kaila namu kay murag virtually unknown man mi sa valencia.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #38 on:** December 18, 2008, 06:14:50 PM »

Hi Calle. Mao ba? kon mao man gani ig agaw pa diay ta. Unya kon kaliwat Tagaro imo lola that means gwafo pod ka kay mga gwafo baya kaliwat ning mga Tagaro puyra buyag. he..he..

I'm thinking kinsa kahay name sa imo lola. :-)

Iregards nalang kos imo family. Ug Merry christmas and Happy new year pod.

PS. Naa naba kay uyab kay kon wa pa ako ka tagaan. :-)

Cheers!

im not committed but my heart already belongs to someone else! (pity me! gidagan ang akong pobreng kasingkasing sa akong gihalaran sa akong gugma, hangtud karun wa pa jud nako makaplagi. duda ko way plano iuli)

ako gwapo? pirting gwapoha. makatastas ug garter sa panty ug bra! (pero wa jud ko maprince charming sukad! mao ra nay student government position nga wa ko manominate! aw, wa diay pud ko manominate pagka muse) lol

ok, akong ingnun ako papa regards ka.

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Asianfairy2 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 18, 2008, 06:29:12 PM »

Calle, katawa gyod ko nimo ba. ha..ha..
basin mabasahan ning Ms Da Bins mobahakhak napod to katawa.:-))

I have no doubt about your kagwapohan kay basta Valencianhon mga gwafo gyod na. ha..ha..

Hinaot makaplagan nimo ug balik ang babaye nga nag angkon sa imong gugmang way paglubad.

Cheers!

Mosign off sako kay ting dung ag napod ug paniudto. Mangita pako unsay sud anon ani.:-)

im not committed but my heart already belongs to someone else! (pity me! gidagan ang akong pobreng kasingkasing sa akong gihalaran sa akong gugma, hangtud karun wa pa jud nako makaplagi. duda ko way plano iuli)

ako gwapo? pirting gwapoha. makatastas ug garter sa panty ug bra! (pero wa jud ko maprince charming sukad! mao ra nay student government position nga wa ko manominate! aw, wa diay pud ko manominate pagka muse) lol

ok, akong ingnun ako papa regards ka.

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udtohan · « **Reply #40 on:** December 24, 2008, 12:58:41 PM »

As

El Mundo sunod kalugar ka hapit unya didto. Jerome told me you're a friend.
He is such a nice guy and I like him. He is very accomodating.

El Mundo if you have time on Dec 27, 28, 29 or 30. (Choose any day on these dates.) I will reserve a room for you to stay 1 day and 1 night with a romantic dinner. Bring your lady. My christmas gift to you.
What do you think?:-)

Hi, many thanks for the Christmas present spending at your resort. But I am so sorry, I can't make it sa dates nga imong gihatag. Puwede next year? Hope dili maforfeited ang gift hehehe

i wish to visit your place so that i can include it in my column.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #41 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:11:16 PM »

in valencia, "an" is used in the same way when we say "no" at the end of a sentence when soliciting response (whether affirmation or negation) from the person we are talking to.

for example:

in standard bisaya: Lami kaayo ang lechon, no?
in valencia : Lami jamo ang lechon, an?

hahahaha tinuud jud ni.

The 'Jamo' can also be interchanged for 'zamo'

hahaha~

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Koddi Prudente · « **Reply #42 on:** April 30, 2009, 01:03:15 AM »

Lami ang lechon, no?
Lami ang lechon, ha?
Lami ang lechon, sa?
Lami ang lechon, gay?
Lami ang lechon, an?

Pareha ra ang sense ani nilang anan, nangayo lang og confirmation.

Joke time sa ta: Naay one word nato nga kon kaduhaon pagsulti, complete statement na. Unsa man? He he, mao ni: "Kabahong kabahong!" (Credit to Coycoy Ponte.)

Naa poy usa ka syllable nga kon kapitoon (7 times) pagsullti, complete statement gihapon. He he, mao ni. Diha kunoy nangutana nganong nahulog si Pulano sa hagdan. Tubag: "Ang-ang, ang ang-ang ang-ang." Pero kon apiki ang ang-ang, mahimo kining "ang-ang ang-ang". Ma siyam na ka "ang". (Credit to me.)

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #43 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:08:48 AM »

haha

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TOPAC · « **Reply #44 on:** April 30, 2009, 08:41:50 AM »

Joke time sa ta: Naay one word nato nga kon kaduhaon pagsulti, complete statement na. Unsa man? He he, mao ni: "Kabahong kabahong!" (Credit to Coycoy Ponte.)

Naa poy usa ka syllable nga kon kapitoon (7 times) pagsullti, complete statement gihapon. He he, mao ni. Diha kunoy nangutana nganong nahulog si Pulano sa hagdan. Tubag: "Ang-ang, ang ang-ang ang-ang." Pero kon apiki ang ang-ang, mahimo kining "ang-ang ang-ang". Ma siyam na ka "ang". (Credit to me.)

whoa!

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buwadsanga · « **Reply #45 on:** April 30, 2009, 10:08:05 AM »

hehhe, hinumdum pako sauna, mga mid 60s c nang acion magpa order sa tindahan sa ahong nanay. daghan jamog - "an" unja tinga ko kay bawogbawog pud ug tingog.

taga valencia ajaw mo kasuko ha..... "an"

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TOPAC · « **Reply #46 on:** April 30, 2009, 03:46:36 PM »

a, natakdan ra siguro si nang acion sa mga taga jagna kay daghan silag suki sa jagna.

pero jagna man jud ng bawog bawog sinultian, buwad.

anyway, kataw-an mo namu. we don't know nga gikataw-an diay pud mi ninjo, lol.

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janjan · « **Reply #47 on:** April 30, 2009, 03:51:47 PM »

a, natakdan ra siguro si nang acion sa mga taga jagna kay daghan silag suki sa jagna.

pero jagna man jud ng bawog bawog sinultian, buwad.

anyway, kataw-an mo namu. we don't know nga gikataw-an diay pud mi ninjo, lol.

nagli lbakanay lang mo ani katawa mas ajo na injo kay bawog-bawog kontras sa amo sa loon pinaghi gud

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TOPAC · « **Reply #48 on:** May 01, 2009, 10:14:26 AM »

lugaw ra man kunoy humok sa injo, jan. hehehe

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janjan · « **Reply #49 on:** May 01, 2009, 10:19:36 AM »

lugaw ra man kunoy humok sa injo, jan. hehehe

mao lagi kuno pastilan gud ka gahi

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TOPAC · « **Reply #50 on:** May 01, 2009, 10:21:15 AM »

Labor day run. Work ko, paits. work sa ko, jan. see you around.

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janjan · « **Reply #51 on:** May 01, 2009, 10:34:59 AM »

sege lang calle double time man pud sweldo di ba kay holiday gud ,ok see ya

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grazie7y · « **Reply #52 on:** May 01, 2009, 11:32:25 AM »

nagli lbakanay lang mo ani katawa mas ajo na injo kay bawog-bawog kontras sa amo sa loon pinaghi gud

Loon diay ka Jan? Silingan ra man diay ta! Arang kagahi bitaw na diha sa injo ba?

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TOPAC · « **Reply #53 on:** May 01, 2009, 12:19:00 PM »

sege lang calle double time man pud sweldo di ba kay holiday gud ,ok see ya

public service, jan. wa man ko nagclaim ug holiday pay, hehehe.

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janjan · « **Reply #54 on:** May 01, 2009, 12:25:33 PM »

Loon diay ka Jan? Silingan ra man diay ta! Arang kagahi bitaw na diha sa injo ba?

mao perti lagi gud ka gahi mailhan dajon kon taga loon

public service, jan. wa man ko nagclaim ug holiday pay, hehehe.

public service, jan. wa man ko nagclaim ug holiday pay, hehehe.

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aw i thot naa kas europe calle

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TOPAC · « **Reply #55 on:** May 01, 2009, 01:56:00 PM »

Manila, Philippines ko oi. chaon!

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junjun · « **Reply #56 on:** November 12, 2009, 01:35:05 PM »

arang viewha an? Nakuratan ko ani nga post ba. Maggama ja kug research sa origin ug scope ani nga AN. Nigkahuman nku sa existing research nku run, research dayun ko. Makamuot jud bitw ning AN nato. Matag-anan jud sa uban nga taga Valencia ka AN?

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TOPAC · « **Reply #57 on:** November 13, 2009, 01:24:02 PM »

sakto ka bay.

and you are the perfect man to make a digging on the subject.

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junjun · « **Reply #58 on:** November 13, 2009, 07:04:02 PM »

suwayan ni nku bay Calle. Dili ka mamista sa atua?

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TOPAC · « **Reply #59 on:** November 16, 2009, 09:07:21 AM »

dili siguro bay. busy man mi january gud. basin fieldwork pud ko sa western visayas region. pero suwayan nako. samok pud pista amo bay, daghan bisita, tig- ko didto, hehehe.

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junjun · « **Reply #60 on:** November 16, 2009, 06:42:00 PM »

pamista lang gud kay mamista ko, dman gud magpista sa amua. Aku kay di man ko magpatig bsan akoy kinamanghuran, alkanse gapun ko kay ako may tigGASTO.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #61 on:** November 24, 2009, 10:58:36 AM »

pamista na lang sa amo.

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junjun · « **Reply #62 on:** November 27, 2009, 12:40:57 PM »

asa man dapit inyuha? Wa ko kabawo ug unsay mga kalingawan. AW mag Sinulog diay kuno. He..he..he magutbut napud mga barangay officials kay dagku kunog tampo. Ako gingnan nga ok ra kay nakadawat bitawg bunos.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #63 on:** December 01, 2009, 11:09:43 AM »

P500 ra uroy tampo mga barangay kagawad. sus, basta naay sinulog, ang mga contingent tawon taga laing towns/provinces didto dad-un sa balay. pamahaw, paniudto, panihapon. hatud kuha pa ug service...

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junjun · « **Reply #64 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:51:55 PM »

mao ba bay Calle, matay mauwaw man hinuon tang mamista sa inyuha kay arang daghana man diayg tawo. Asa gud dapit injuha para nig human nahug simba ahong tuoron?

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jorgeanna · « **Reply #65 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:10:24 PM »

mamoot ko aning "an" thing kay i grew up with so many taga Bato, Valencia sa balay namo and hapit nako matakdan sauna hehehehe

condolence sa Bete Family of Bato, Valencia... Ondoy Arwin died of cardiac arrest. May he rest in peace.. childhood playmate baya nako ni cya

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junjun · « **Reply #66 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:19:24 PM »

my condolence also to BETE family of Bato Taytay!

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #67 on:** December 02, 2009, 01:43:17 PM »

Condolence to the Bete Family.

God Rest his soul.

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TOPAC · « **Reply #68 on:** December 07, 2009, 10:56:46 AM »

mao ba bay Calle, matay mauwaw man hinuon tang mamista sa inyuha kay arang daghana man diayg tawo. Asa gud dapit injuha para nig human nahug simba ahong tuoron?

secret. sus, usahay tulo ka baboy tawon ihawon louy. pero usually, one ra jud na.

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