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Gan vs. Olegario
« on: October 05, 2009, 01:02:51 PM »
Vote now!

Dr. Gan is the incumbent mayor and scion of reputedly Bohol's richest and most liquid family.

Gen. Olegario, although a native of Valencia, is virtually unknown especially to the new generation of Valencianhons (except by name) since he was in the military and is (was?) residing in Manila. I am not aware too of his programs of government.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 01:13:24 PM »
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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2009, 03:11:42 PM »
thanks, bro.

i bet your tito john palaca is for gen. olegario.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2009, 03:34:12 PM »
Tito did run i think some years ago. Admire ko sa democraticong process sa Valencia.


Plus, my maninoy is from the Lim Family (of Dr. Guido Lim's Side).



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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2009, 03:36:04 PM »
Calle, murag nagpapili man sab na si Olegario before, during the stint of Inday Conching.
sakto ba ko?

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 08:15:57 AM »
Nope. Nauwaw/naikog sya.

When the Lim family arrived from China, they were so poor that the late Pablo "Abling" Ong Lim had to baby sit baby leo olegario.  That was the reason he chose not to run. He is now running since Abling is already dead.

I also heard that the Lim family promised Leo Olegario support in the latter's bid for the 3rd Congressional District after the term of Zarraga. I don't know what happened to that planned bid (except that it did not materialize) as well as that promised support.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 05:51:32 PM »
Try to eat fried chicken for one week you will crave for sinugbang isda. This is just a metaphor but I believe that the Lim-Gan Dynasty has been holding the top post of Valencia. It cannot be denied that they changed the landscape of Valencia in terms of building constructed. But how about the tagabukid? unsa may notable changes sa mga tawo sa kabukiran nga ang mga kalsa pwerte bang mautuana. Sus ug makaadto palang mos Taytay, Pangian ug kanang padulong sa Anoyon makaingun jud mo'g "maayo pay nagda kung efficascent oil!" He..he...

THe lady mayor in her 6 years failed to visit the boondocks. Di cgoro sya ganahan makakita sa kapobrehon s mga tawo pero kun tingkampanya mutungas cya. Bitaw. I think new administration will provide changes! Peace everyone!

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2009, 06:47:41 PM »
Try to eat fried chicken for one week you will crave for sinugbang isda. This is just a metaphor but I believe that the Lim-Gan Dynasty has been holding the top post of Valencia. It cannot be denied that they changed the landscape of Valencia in terms of building constructed. But how about the tagabukid? unsa may notable changes sa mga tawo sa kabukiran nga ang mga kalsa pwerte bang mautuana. Sus ug makaadto palang mos Taytay, Pangian ug kanang padulong sa Anoyon makaingun jud mo'g "maayo pay nagda kung efficascent oil!" He..he...

THe lady mayor in her 6 years failed to visit the boondocks. Di cgoro sya ganahan makakita sa kapobrehon s mga tawo pero kun tingkampanya mutungas cya. Bitaw. I think new administration will provide changes! Peace everyone!

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 02:08:12 PM »
na man to silay gipangajo nga mga dalan last year taman karun.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 01:10:45 PM »
unya ang ibutang kay bato ug limestone man lang ning uwan anud napud. Maayo nlang kay mulansad si Yap nagsponsor ur Farm to Market Concreting sa Brangay Road. Bisag nubo ray nakalsada at least naa,

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2009, 11:24:29 AM »
ako kasab-an si hen-hen inig uli nako kung tinuod ni, hehehe.

di man gud ko tigtungasan.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2009, 12:40:21 PM »
wow power bay calle. Ana jud, suod gud mo.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 10:02:02 AM »
binuang ra to bay, pero kung magkita mi ako ingnun. naks!

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 12:14:56 PM »
Diha ka bisan close jud mo jamo. basin ganing pag-umangkon ka niya sa tago. he...he..he. joke ra ha!

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 01:27:01 PM »
tikret pa na. makidnap pa lang ko.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2009, 11:31:00 AM »
bay Calle. mutagna na pud ko ha, imo apelydo kay Escobal kay taga pitong gatang man na sila! tag-anan nku no? he.he.he.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2009, 12:15:38 PM »
he he he interesting. Mo ask jud ko ani.

Calle you know the Salise family eh?

Do you know His Honor Judge Salise?



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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2009, 03:22:52 PM »
pero mas convince ko nga Palac imo surname, pehaps ur atty palac. Sercet ra nato ni ha! he.he.he

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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 05:48:07 AM »
Jun, are you referring to the Palacca family?

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 11:56:57 AM »
In Valencia unique ang mga aplyido kay sumpay-sumpay. There is Pala, Palac, Palaca, Palarca.

Murag Close mo ni Mr. Johnjohn Palaca, he is a relative of my father murag 2rd degree sila pero dili mi close nila. N ana man jud, magkabuwagbuwag!

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 12:15:05 PM »
Mao bitaw. I know that there is also a Sales family in Valencia. Related man ko sa Salise family b/c my lolo's mother was a Salise. Mrs. Donisia Salise. She married my great grandfather, the late Mr. Ricardo Salvo.

In regards to Tito John, yes we are very close. We always attend their family events and our families host the vigils to the Blessed Santo Nino every Christmas/ January.

His older sister was good friends with my lola, the late Mrs. Fortunata Tan Salvo.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 01:07:28 PM »
bay Calle. mutagna na pud ko ha, imo apelydo kay Escobal kay taga pitong gatang man na sila! tag-anan nku no? he.he.he.

naa na diay attorney ang mga palac? kinsa? dili ko escobal pero barkada ming j-poy. pitong gatang, what is. pangutan-a na lang j-poy ug si pilart, kabalo sila kinsa si calle the great.

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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 04:10:00 PM »
Dili man mi close sa mga escobal, ang akuang nailhan dha si Arlan MAgua nagkauban mig scouting sa antequera.

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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2010, 10:27:19 AM »
Nope. Nauwaw/naikog sya.

When the Lim family arrived from China, they were so poor that the late Pablo "Abling" Ong Lim had to baby sit baby leo olegario.  That was the reason he chose not to run. He is now running since Abling is already dead.

I also heard that the Lim family promised Leo Olegario support in the latter's bid for the 3rd Congressional District after the term of Zarraga. I don't know what happened to that planned bid (except that it did not materialize) as well as that promised support.

I think the information you are giving out is wrong.wa sya nauwaw ug naikog doy. matter of fact ang Pablo LIm nga nagbaby sit kay baby leo olegario 69 years ago was actually PABLO LIM the brother of MARTINA LIM who happened to be his  mother- so uncle gyud niya to dili mao na si anhing nong Abling- Pablo Ong Lim , and never pod sya nag hunahuna molangsad mayor before until now na lang kay kanunay mi mapahiya dires manila nga mga taga valencia nganong gipasagdan na lang ang valencia nga dili man jud equitable ang nahimo sa mga lims sa  ilang tenure. if you go to the barrios of valencia as we have been to 25 barrios, grabeng kapabayaan in 21 years ang nangyari.only during election time do they move the earth in the highlands on the pretext that they have projects, for the people to see na gihimo ilang kalsada. pero pud ok pud ok man lang pod walay pagkahuman?  the very main purpose of his running is because the retired general deems it necessary to correct the shenanigans existing in the governance of valencia. actually he finds a renewed sense of purpose by serving valencia. by the way, he had plans before  during the 1998 elections as congressman when Ramos was the pres.but he was gracious enough as an officer to give way to an older zarraga as requested personally by pres. ramos.
i cordially invite you then to join us to a barrio visit scheduled on february 20 for you to see first hand the roads and one of the wonders of valencia...(as the experience will truly make you wonder ??)


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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2010, 10:33:22 AM »
Vote now!

Dr. Gan is the incumbent mayor and scion of reputedly Bohol's richest and most liquid family.

Gen. Olegario, although a native of Valencia, is virtually unknown especially to the new generation of Valencianhons (except by name) since he was in the military and is (was?) residing in Manila. I am not aware too of his programs of government.

for general olegario's programs of government and  platforms please feel free to visit.... www.damlag-valencia.com, or pwede pod imo pick up sa ilang balay ni general doy. silingan ra man diay ta.kami ng namilit anang BUILD NEW POLITICS nga stickers and GIVE HOPE TO THE YOUTH.

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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2010, 10:36:43 AM »
kanang inigsaylo nimo sa Cansibao bay, nagdrive ko ug Honda dream nga motor, ay sus wa nalang ko nilahos uy...grabe ka libaong.
wa pa na doy, suwayi adto sa loob kung unsay imong ikasulti. mao nay version ng overlooking sa antipolo kit- an nimo tibuok valencia kay lagi jes na may plite padung langit. wa jud eskwelahan adto kalooy sa mga bata.habalhabal ray pwedeng magamit as transpo adtong dapita.

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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2010, 10:45:56 AM »
hello, my mother is from Loob pero 10 years ago paku nakatungas didto tungod sa kamaot sa dalan. I am happy that Gen Olegorio finally challenge the incumbents whom for so long dominated Valencia with their vested interest as the priority. Let's try to put an end to the tyranny experienced by our Co-Velencianhon. However, let us try to respect the opinions and the rights of other people especially in expression. Its obvious that Calle is on the other side but nevertheless my respect to him would never diminish nor fade!

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 12:28:07 PM »
kahilak man sad tag upo ana, jun. thanks.

anyway, i easily get bored.

this time, im bored with politics. in case you have not noticed, i no longer post political messages here. kinda boring already. im not being cynical, but hey, are all of these going to bring us somewhere???
 

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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2010, 04:17:54 PM »
same here, Atty Calle, In fact I am always invited by the opposition for meetings but I have one and thousand excuses. I am even confuse right now.

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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2010, 03:23:06 PM »
same here, Atty Calle, In fact I am always invited by the opposition for meetings but I have one and thousand excuses. I am even confuse right now.


but im interested on olegario and dango's program of government. verziogirl, we'll be honored if you can post here gen. olegario and capt. dango's vision for valencia.


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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2010, 12:13:44 PM »
Hello, mga Sano. Nice discovering this page in the cyberspace.

respecting one`s opinion is the basic rule, i agree with you, junjun. let us discuss politics in valencia objectively and factually. mura`g ikaw man tingali, Calle, ang nag sugod ani, so ajaw ka-talaw.  by the way, matud pa ni epoy (escobal) ikaw tingali kuno si (1) borja (pag-umangkon ni ondoy dajang) or (2) si waray. i think i go for no.1. ondoy dajang is conching`s agriculturist. now, how will a non-agriculturist develop an agricultural town? that`s how conching run valencia`s government. mura`g wala ganing nimo mabasa tanan sa message ni verziogirl. kon gusto ka sa platform of government ni olegario ug ni dango, please log on lang kuno sa www. damlag-valencia.comm basin ra aron ka ma makakuha ug mga idea aron makatabang unsaon paghatag sa mga taga-valencia ug usa ka maayong ugma damlag. by the way, lorenzo could be a son of liza salvo-lucino kay apo man kuno sija ni nang nating ug ni nong ciano. yes, junjun, luoy jud jamo ang inyo sa loob, kay hangtud karon, lisud jud moadto didto. i hope naa kay mga idea unsaon pagtabang ang mga namuyo didto.

let us make this forum a generator for the development of the valencianhons, which has been left alone to the chinese sharks. now is the time nga molihuk na ang mga sama kaninyo nga nanginahubi sa ubang dapit, aron sa panahon nga mouli na mo sa atong yutang natawhan, you will enjoy and find time relaxing with nature.

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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2010, 07:57:23 AM »
Kuyog ka na lang sa suroy sa kabukiran, Professor Palaca, aron dili na ka ma-confused. If you want to help valencia to be developed and moved towards progress, make your moves now. kay basin baya sa panahon nga mawala na ang mga lims sa poder, usa ka unya sa daghang "maayong laki" nga taga-valencia nga mokalit na lang ug lugwa.

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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2010, 01:14:14 PM »
respecting one`s opinion is the basic rule, i agree with you, junjun. let us discuss politics in valencia objectively and factually. mura`g ikaw man tingali, Calle, ang nag sugod ani, so ajaw ka-talaw.  by the way, matud pa ni epoy (escobal) ikaw tingali kuno si (1) borja (pag-umangkon ni ondoy dajang) or (2) si waray.

mura`g wala ganing nimo mabasa tanan sa message ni verziogirl. kon gusto ka sa platform of government ni olegario ug ni dango, please log on lang kuno sa www. damlag-valencia.comm basin ra aron ka ma makakuha ug mga idea aron makatabang unsaon paghatag sa mga taga-valencia ug usa ka maayong ugma damlag.

let us make this forum a generator for the development of the valencianhons, which has been left alone to the chinese sharks.

now is the time nga molihuk na ang mga sama kaninyo nga nanginahubi sa ubang dapit, aron sa panahon nga mouli na mo sa atong yutang natawhan, you will enjoy and find time relaxing with nature.

just want to clarrify the following in this thread:

i guess you don't have a full grasp of the meaning of an objective discussant cause i know for sure you are not one and you are just imagining that you are.

i also have a good and legitimate concern of the term "talaw." can you please elaborate? thanks

im a busy person and i have far more bigger issues to fathom than valencia's  politics. starting a thread here does not mean that i have to regularly post my points. also, i think i started this as a question/query precisely because i myself is in a state between confused and enlightened. 

calling the lim family as chinese sharks sounds discriminatory. i guess you have to clarify yourself on that.

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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2010, 01:19:38 PM »

but im interested on olegario and dango's program of government. verziogirl, we'll be honored if you can post here gen. olegario and capt. dango's vision for valencia.


if you were referring to this post i made, it was precisely because i don't have the luxury of time to surf all threads in this forum that i requested verziogirl to post the program of government of olegario-dango tandem.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 07:50:19 AM »
Good day, everyone. When i said, Calle, nga ajaw ka-talaw, i am referring to the discussion of how the lims run the local government of valencia. whether you think and you are sure that i am an objective discussant or not, it is does not matter. while you have all the luxury of time as you praise the lims, you dont have when you have to discuss legrom behind legitimate issues, hiding behind the cloaks of a busy man and a confused citizen. when the lims prohibits the extracting of sand from the shores, as the law mandates, but they themselves allow their minions to extract sand from behind their hospital in asinan and deliver it to the barangay projects with specific "price tags" as included in the bill of materials, i dont know if you can call them as modern robin hoods. anyway, thanks for reacting to my threads, because you have the luxury of time for that.

as i said beforehand, let us discuss legitimate issues, not personalities. through this, i hope you and i and some interested valencianhons can help our town move forward.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2010, 12:44:56 PM »
Hallo there, welcome Palu-palo. I am not ignorant of the real situations in valencia since I am still going home almost every week. In my service as a lay liturgical minister,I for sure experienced the hardships in going to the barrios. How I wish that I can go with all of you guys but I am doing my dissertation and another research as commissioned by the CHED.As I recall a line in bisaya, pahinog sa! I am still widening my horizons as I learned the wisdom of experience.Good luck to all of you!

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2010, 02:55:10 AM »
So who do you think will win?



Olegario

or

Gan

?




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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2010, 08:47:55 AM »
who will win? i bet my neck, it's GAN, by a wide margin.

dong, out of 35 barangays in our town, 32 barangay captains are with the GAN/LIM group.

anyway, i think the group of olegario is giving the GAN/LIM camp a good fight.

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Re: Gan vs. Olegario
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2010, 09:52:47 PM »
I wish the best for the politics in Valencia. It is good to hear both sides, and hope and pray that who ever wins, that they be honest and transparent in their policies. No more corruption, fair play, and for the winner to never hold grudges on the supporters of the opposing side.

I have heard stories of how some members of Valencia were denied water and power because of opposing the current power. I do not like hearing such allegations as this should not even be occuring, if it is occurring, that is.

Fair elections na lang ta. To THE LORD GOD be all Glory, Honor and Praise.

God Bless Valencia!

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