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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2009, 01:20:45 PM »
this is a surprisingly new "theory" which can shed more light to this issue, i think
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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2009, 08:31:30 AM »

so, they are blaming UB for this so-called hoax? this is my first time to hear that this is all hoax.

on the T'saday issue, i think its settled already that Marcos and company used them to portray the late strongman as someone who cares for our country's culture and heritage. also, it was a good publicity as a great discovery at that time.
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2009, 08:35:57 AM »
The Tasadays were hoax of Manda Elizalde, PANAMIN Secretary during the Marco's era.
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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2009, 08:45:44 AM »
ANd there are "tribe members" who would still perpetuate the belief nga sila true minority group.

Sadly, halos parehas sa Eskaya.
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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2009, 10:15:25 AM »
puro na man ni hinoon hoax..hahahah

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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2009, 10:55:56 AM »
mao na jud

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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2009, 11:26:52 AM »
by the way, why would they blame jes for the hoax when he was open about the eskaya's theory as being "deniable"?

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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2009, 08:59:50 PM »
Changes are inevitable, it happened all the cultures in the World. Extinction too, ew need to face it. What left is a memory of our past.

Lets make our mistakes from the past, a guiding principle of the future.

All this cultures  existed, but been banished. Even our languages and dialects.


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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2009, 09:07:26 PM »
hoax is not about changes...it's tampering the truth. asa may tinood ani.

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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2009, 09:34:52 PM »
Kay Manda Elizalde, sulti pa sa akong amigo si Rajah Carlito Buntas. Iyang gigamit ang mga Manobo ug Mandaya guihimong Tsadays. Tinood tong mga Tribu sa Bukidnon, usa ka grupo nga nagtago sa usa ka lugar. Nakaplagan to sila tungod sa pangita sa Gold bars ug Federal notes. didto kono na crash ang eroplano sa American Army. kining mga native dihay mga Federal Notes.

Nakautok si Manda guihimong Tsaday, unya guilitratohan na published sa National Geographic. Hangtod nakakuha sila nga grand sa mga Foundation.

nahimong panapi sab.

World War II kahadlokan ni si Anoy Datahan, tungod sa Anting-anting. Kining Eskaya, existing sab ni pero na convert sa PBMA ug nahimong Rizalian guikan sa Mindanao.

During sa the 70's gui lead ni Commander Asir. Pero guidakop sa mga Army. Unya na wala na to. Very secretive ni sila tungod sa PBMA. Magporong ni sila ug pula sa una may dalang sundang.

They are not actually hoax, morag ang mga researcher usahay ilang lang pun-an dugangan ang storya to make it more interesting.

Moadto ka sa Nayong Pilipino naa didto ang office ng PANAMIN tua nga picture daghan ni Manda Elizalde kuha sa Bukidnon.

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« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2009, 10:35:28 PM »
very interesting, raldam. i wonder if someone got jailed for making up this stuff...

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« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2009, 09:19:37 PM »
These are tidbits of what I know about the Eskayas. Mariano Sumatra of Loon town went with a priest to Manila (to study perhaps) and surfaced in Mindanao as a pro-Katipunan organizer. He went back to Bohol and settled in Biabas, Guindulman where he started a community that used its own alphabet, signs and languages reportedly to continue his advocacy and evade suspecting authorities. He introduced a communal system of agriculture with him providing the inputs and the farmers giving back to him a portion of their harvest, thus he became a "datahan", someone to whom one makes a "data", or installment payment. While the Eskayas could be considered as a tribe, this may be as far only as their unique social, economic and learning systems. If we consider race, they do not belong to one other than ours. While in Biabas, Anoy frequently visited his hometown and even convinced some of his friends and relatives to join him in Biabas.  This may explain why surnames that are common in Loon are carried by some households in Guindulman and in Duero, where another Eskaya community was established.  The many Datahans and Sumatras in Bohol are, therefore, blood relatives.               

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« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2009, 05:44:35 AM »
A classmate of mine in high is a member of Escaya has his own languages called TIMORI or BINALI. By changing B=T , I=I , N=M, A=O, L=R, I=I .

Whenever they have conversation they talk that way. Then one time I told them I understand them. They were surprise. So you're just faking the languages,  they laugh at me.



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« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2009, 10:16:25 PM »

is timori escayan? daghan man makamao ani sa Carmen ug Sierra Bullones kono. daghan kaliwat escaya tingali pod didto. hehehehe

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« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2009, 10:30:39 PM »
I remeber a story about Manda Elizalde with his pet Tasadays kuno which were housed inside his compound in Forbes Park. Neighbors were complaining with the stink odor coming from Manda's residence. He was even threatened to be evicted by the Home Owners Association should he not get rid of all his pets. Did you know how Manda evade the trouble? He bought all the nearby houses of the complainants. He certainly can afford to buy all those nearby houses with his millions of fund granted by several International Foundations to PANAMIN.

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« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2009, 10:45:09 PM »

`oo glacier Kaliwat na sila ug mga Eskaya.

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« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2009, 12:17:57 AM »

you mean Escaya ang origin aning TIMORI?

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« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2009, 03:40:02 AM »

Pure nga Binisaya pan lang ilang guibali-bali ang mga letra aron dili sila ma sabtan. Ug kuan pa coded ang mga letra.

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« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2009, 06:55:19 AM »

i know and hear about Timori, rald. pero, ako pasabot, ang Escaya maoy nag-una ani?

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« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2009, 09:00:53 AM »
That is my belief kay, ilang mga ka guikan sa Eskaya man, although they are already part of the mainstream but they spoke the TIMORI(BINALI).



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