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« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2009, 10:37:17 PM »
BNC, am sure the last image is not baclayon. hehehe
hahaha, karon pa ko kabantay.
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« Reply #121 on: February 25, 2009, 08:33:01 AM »
apo, do you know how to redo the painting in valencia's retablos?

bati jud pagkapental. sayang ang nagasto. wa pa ra ba macondition ang mga tugas ana before gipintalan basin dali ra magabok.

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« Reply #122 on: February 25, 2009, 11:11:38 AM »
lisud jud bitaw sundon ang hustong paagi sa pag-renovate, kung sa simbahan nay hisgutan. daghan mang gong hari...hahahahha

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« Reply #123 on: February 25, 2009, 11:18:53 AM »
repainting them with enamel or any waterbase, oilbased preparations may not work well. Think of gilting it with gold. Waah, social!

Bitaw, any homegrown artist like Ric Ramasala or Rosalio Ortiz would first study how to approach the job if they were asked expert opinion. Perhaps the workers of Senen Redulla of the Redulla's Antiques have a little knowledge about how to do with it.

 

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« Reply #124 on: February 25, 2009, 12:18:19 PM »
repainting them with enamel or any waterbase, oilbased preparations may not work well. Think of gilting it with gold. Waah, social!

Bitaw, any homegrown artist like Ric Ramasala or Rosalio Ortiz would first study how to approach the job if they were asked expert opinion. Perhaps the workers of Senen Redulla of the Redulla's Antiques have a little knowledge about how to do with it.

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« Reply #125 on: February 25, 2009, 05:03:02 PM »
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The large number of old churches in Bohol is one of the most attractive heritage character of the island. Almost all of the 47 towns of the Bohol Province have old, massive, stone churches with...Please click link to view the beautiful churches.

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« Reply #126 on: February 26, 2009, 09:51:27 AM »
Mikey sa may relasyon ninju ni Eric Gatal? Igsoon mu?

yea, igsuon mi, kaila diay ka nya?

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« Reply #127 on: March 02, 2009, 10:15:28 PM »
Every old church in Bohol has its own unique features. Morag museum kada usa. It's true that many non-Boholano couples have made Bohol their wedding venue. Late last year two doctor friends of mine (from Cebu and Bacolod), both having no relatives in Bohol decided to get married at the beautiful Dauis Church. Their wedding reception was held at nearby Terraza de Marivelez behind the convent.

I admire Apothecary for the wealth of information he has been sharing with us.  By the way, anybody who needs more information on Bohol's churches can get hold of Jose Trota's Visita Iglesia Bohol, so far providing the most complete and in-depth description of the province's churches. On the cover is the Our Lady of Light church in Loon.

At the back of the Loon church are four flights of coral-stone steps called Inang-angan that connects Napo, Loon's original settlement, to the present town center that sits on a plateau. The four flights have a total of 174 steps, not 165. There is a fifth flight that leads to the old convent, now Sacred Heart Academy. It has 38 steps. All in all, Inang-angan has 212 steps.  I think no other built heritage of such magnitude exists in the country.  Meanwhile, the name "Napo" means "dapit nga balason", which is the character of the barangay.  This explains why there are interior barangays in Bohol that are called Napo. They are located near sandy river banks.           

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« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2009, 05:27:05 PM »
look at all the centuries old churches in bohol. almost all have perfect orientations, east-west or facing the most favorable wind direction.

maximized sunlight or winds cooling the interiors, For 16-17th century archirecture, we could wonder why top ranked architects who go through laborious years in school would not understand the trend called organic architecture.


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« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2009, 05:37:50 PM »
look at all the centuries old churches in bohol. almost all have perfect orientations, east-west or facing the most favorable wind direction.

maximized sunlight or winds cooling the interiors, For 16-17th century archirecture, we could wonder why top ranked architects who go through laborious years in school would not understand the trend called organic architecture.


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« Reply #130 on: March 17, 2009, 02:01:42 PM »
Pero eastward sija, unja naa sa corner nga matrap ang hangin maong adto sija sud sa puerta mayor, cooling the interior sa simbahan.

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« Reply #131 on: March 21, 2009, 09:19:42 PM »
Pero eastward sija, unja naa sa corner nga matrap ang hangin maong adto sija sud sa puerta mayor, cooling the interior sa simbahan.

And if my memory serves me right, ang Dimiao at one time sold a side altar, one carved in wood, gilt in gold and is now at the National Museum.

The time it came out on dispaly in Manila, it bore the tag: A side altar from Dimiao Church in Loon. The NM priced the altar at P50M.

On both sides of the facade of the church interestingly has a flight of stone step leading to the roof? it is now crumbling, the last time i looked.


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« Reply #132 on: March 21, 2009, 11:29:48 PM »
nganong na "Dimiao Church in Loon" na man hinoon na?  One time didto pud ko sa Ayala Museum, diha puy usa ka tibuuk side altar nga identified as gikan sa Bohol, and donated by a certain Lopez Family. Am sure dili ni ang mga Lopez sa Loon. Tingalig ang mga Lopez ni nga kagikan og Iloilo, some of them collectors of antiques.

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« Reply #133 on: March 25, 2009, 11:50:54 AM »
i stand corrected Koddi, Dimiao Church in Bohol diay ;D

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« Reply #134 on: March 25, 2009, 12:31:45 PM »
Many antique images of saints in old churches in Bohol were stolen.

It was discovered  that gold was placed in  the eyes of antique larawan.

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« Reply #135 on: March 25, 2009, 08:30:14 PM »
old carved icons were usually gilt in gold, as you can see st, blaise at the baclayon museum.

The icon unbelievably survived after having been stolen twice and recovered from the same antique shop in malate.

Its an easy shot burglaries in Bohol churches are so famed, especially with two city residents now known in the circle as the mos avid collectors of these rare santos for their manila and pampanga customers.

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« Reply #136 on: March 25, 2009, 10:44:52 PM »
A Loonanon friend of mine told me that someone from the town's Barangay Catagbacan is more popularly called Santos kay mao kuno niy iyang pangita, ang pagpangawat og mga imahen sa mga simbahan sa Bohol. Ambot kon asa na kaha ni siya karon.

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« Reply #137 on: March 26, 2009, 08:43:28 PM »
I know of two prominent businessmen sa Bohol nga na-engage ani nga negosyo. of course, di jud ka makatoo nga mao diay ni mainline ug ag mga gi-front, sideline lang.

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« Reply #138 on: March 31, 2009, 11:54:19 AM »
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« Reply #139 on: March 31, 2009, 01:51:49 PM »
A Loonanon friend of mine told me that someone from the town's Barangay Catagbacan is more popularly called Santos kay mao kuno niy iyang pangita, ang pagpangawat og mga imahen sa mga simbahan sa Bohol. Ambot kon asa na kaha ni siya karon.

bitaw mao bitaw na ila ingon kana santos taga catagbakan handig kaila man ko ana bawo naa pa ba kaha sila sa catagbakan

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« Reply #140 on: May 16, 2009, 12:11:40 AM »
newbie here!

very interesting topic (and hilarious thread too).

apo, salamat for the very informative posts. learned a lot of something new today!

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« Reply #142 on: May 16, 2009, 01:28:43 AM »
Tomorrow, 16 May 2009, is a historic day for Bohol because National Historical Institute (NHI) markers will be unveiled at the Our Lady of the Assumption parish church and convent of Dauis, Saint Vincent parish church of Maribojoc, and Castillo de San Vicente (more popularly known as Punta Cruz Watchtower), also in Maribojoc.

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« Reply #143 on: August 22, 2009, 09:42:33 AM »
I Swear By That Altar

ONE main proof that the Santo Nino Church in Cortes is not as young as its dated walls would tell is its unmistakable baroque altar.

Although its wall etchings bare dates in the late 18th century, a brief peek at the insides of the church would reveal an altar that is an anomaly when placed inside a late 18th century coral stone building, if the date etchings were really correct.

For when one considers the massive retablo mayor (main altar) of the Cortes Church, what immediately would come to mind is a Jesuit art, which would not come inside that church later than 1768 or the time when the Jesuits were recalled and the Augustinian Recollects took over.

At a quick glance, art critics would consider two things upon seeing that old baroque altar in Cortes.

First, that altar came from an older church and was given as a gift to a daughter parish sometime in the late 17th century.

By reckoning, the altar could come from Maribojoc, a 17th century “mother parish” as what the Augustinian Recollects would want Cortesanons to believe.

Maribojoc altar, a classic example of a gothic art in Bohol is a very unique one. Its two side altars in fact, perfectly match the gothic retablo mayor.  Even its wing altars are a match.

Or it could come from the “mother parish” of Baclayon or Loboc, where pueblo de Cortes separated.

If it had, those churches would without doubt put up not just one altar to match with the altar now in Cortes. Chances are if this was true, there still could be similar altars like ours in any of these mentioned “daughter” or mother parishes. The fact is, there is none. 

Baclayon’s distinct altar is a baroque rococo. Its side altars are classic Spanish baroque and without doubt, of Augustinian Recollect provenance.

Loboc’s main altar is neo-classical. Its side altars are baroque. And so are its wing altars.

Two, that the altar was inherently carved for Cortes, for that old church named Malabago de Paminguitan, which is present day church but with the dates being “tampered” or being later affixed by the later missionaries.
 
Personally, I would rather believe on the second theory.

Why? Because this altar is a solo one, not one like it in any older churches in Bohol. Meaning it was solely made for a purpose, maybe for Cortes Church.

The retablo mayor or the main altar is a classic Jesuit influenced Spanish baroque art.

The altar’s major elements are the double solomonic columns, the classic baroque flanges, the simplistic neo-classical crown with the usual eye or dove and the profuse use of acanthus leaves, the major decorative element of the Corinthian columns.

But first, let’s settle the question. What is baroque?

Baroque is a movement that was later translated into art forms. It proliferated in Europe after artists there were later deeply affected by the discoveries of Galileo Galelei.

The Italian scientist and astronomer, in support of the Copernican Revolution proved that the long held belief that the earth was the center of the universe was wrong.

Galelei’s astronomic discoveries had very deep implications in the church.

A shift from the geocentric (world as center) belief would necessarily affect the belief that man is also the center of the world, which was what the church preached then.

The drastic movement from the old belief to the newer “scientific belief” troubled a whole lot of people and the artists eventually started to depict an art, which portrays movements.

These styles of the irregular, the elaborate and the swaying from the usual balance took the center focus.

This too became the basis for a movement, a revolution in ideas, which seeped into the highly conservative church.

In time between the early 16th to late 18th century, the Church, which at the beginning persecuted Galelei has to accept after the Council of Trent promoted the use of the baroque arts as an expression of religious themes in direct and emotional involvement.

Baroque, roughly from the Spanish and Portuguese “perola barroca” or uneven pearl, display an “eccentric redundancy” and “noisy abundance of details.”

In Cortes altar, these major baroque elements are portrayed by the double solomonic columns.

Solomonic columns are characteristic of the columns put up at the temples of Solomon.  The spiral design, which portrays the movement, is depicted in the helical or twisted shaft, which conveys the baroque movement. It also projects the profuse use of it in the Cortes altar. And if it were not intended to be seen, the altar builders would, I say, not mess with putting up 8 of these helical columns, right?

In fact, the altar sport 12 of these columns. This would include four semi-solomonic columns are prominently displayed on the top niche.

Now, these columns, in the tradition of the Corinthian capitals are also topped with simple approximation of acanthus leaves ornament.

Then, consider the elaborately decorated outward flanges that show the unmistakable movement of moving out from the center niche, a movement so incorporated to form a huge mass.
 
These outward flanges, often called the wings of the altar clearly manifest here. Flanges that are hand carved from five-inch thick molave boards, we should note.

Then, there are two hand-carved torches with flaming motifs decorating the pediments of the second tier of the altar. These torches also show another Spanish baroque element, the light, which was later translated in paintings by the skillful play of lights. This later became popularly known as the chiaroscuro.

At the altar niche pediments, there is that organic cherub design seen at the foot of each statue in the niche. When seen from below, the design hides among the panels, a delightful “peek-a boo” one could say.

It is just too bad that not many Cortesanons realize the value of their altar in their midst.

Then a central element in the Cortesanon Christian life, the altar has become an inspiration in the local life that many would simply dream of bringing the same altar home, impossible it may be.

Until the trend of the Urna, the miniature altars that we usually have at a prominent place at home now will the Cortesanons realize the role of that retablo mayor in the lives of our forefathers.

Why would I say that?

Altars like that in the past were monumental structures. And they were often kept in very dark inner sanctum of the church or the home.

In Cortes church for example, you could easily pick the details of the original window of the church, especially the part where you will see the altar now. The new windows we have now are almost twice as tall as the original windows.

There are also practical reasons why they have to do that. The piratical raids that hit the Spanish occupied towns then discourage the pirates from climbing on the windows and loot the church.

Then, there is the belief that masses would be celebrated in catacombs. These are underground cemeteries, all to hide from the traditional persecution of the Christians.

Imagine those small windows all blotted out by stained glasses?

The altar now becomes a dark spot.

It would rather be impossible to imagine why the friars go the length of carving the altars elaborately when it can only be admired up close.

And the Pre-council of Trent times do not allow laymen from entering the holy of holies. (that again is precisely the reason why that metalwork of a railing would mark the confines of the no-mans-land and the place for the lay)

SO the altar becomes invisible from afar Even perhaps by lighting it with a camp fire of candles, it remains to be partly too far from the beautiful carvings we see now.

To solve the problem, the Spanish builders used a technology called gilting.

Putting up precious elements in the altar to make it glow in the dark is how they did it. And gold or silver to gilt or coat the altar does the trick.

And that is why we hypothesize that beneath the dark brown and modern golden mast of paint of the Cortes retablo mayor could be gold gilt or silver plates.

I am putting my two cents worth on it.

And I swear by that altar.

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« Reply #144 on: August 22, 2009, 01:30:55 PM »
Church of Our Lady of Light Parish (Parroquia de la Nuestra Señora de la Luz or Birhen sa Kasilak):

1. One of the Great Churches of the Philippines. See coffeetable book of the same title by Pedro G. Galende, OSA and Rene B. Javellana, SJ; photographs by Jose Ma. Lorenzo P. Tan and Boldy N. Tapales

2. Queen of All Heritage Churches in Bohol

3. Crowning Glory of the Recollect Mission in Bohol

4. The biggest Catholic stone church building in the Visayas and Mindanao, second in size to the Taal Basilica, the biggest in th Philippines

5. Its facade has the most intricate designs among heritage churches in the province. 

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« Reply #145 on: August 24, 2009, 09:50:59 AM »
Very true Koddi.

In fact, that gracious forward bulge of the puerta mayor is the highlight of the baroque architecture.

Loon Church is probably the only church in Bohol that was built as religiously according to the way it was planned, its completely perfect.
 

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« Reply #146 on: August 24, 2009, 10:00:40 AM »
The Church in Valencia, Bohol.




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« Reply #147 on: August 25, 2009, 11:50:56 PM »
The unique feature of the church in Valencia is its flooring. Antique wood tiles!

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« Reply #149 on: August 27, 2009, 07:31:27 PM »
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« Reply #150 on: September 05, 2010, 05:32:38 AM »
The unique feature of the church in Valencia is its flooring. Antique wood tiles!

Koddi, dili lang jud ang Wood Tiles, to Visit the Miraculous Image of the Santo Nino. :)

Ug ma pa misa ka sa Valencia sa alas seis sa buntag sa Sunday, daghan jamo nga tawo mo attend.

Mo kanta na sila nga bisayang style nga worship. Beautiful kaayo. It was the first time I ever celebrated Mass in Valencia in almost 12 years na.

Very uplifting kaayo.

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« Reply #151 on: September 07, 2010, 12:06:28 AM »
Same as in Cortes (Infant King) and Ubay (Holy Child).

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« Reply #152 on: September 07, 2010, 09:53:22 PM »
I have never attended mass in Cortes nor Ubay. I might have to do that in the future. :)

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Re: The Churches in Bohol
« Reply #153 on: November 12, 2010, 04:30:50 AM »
I have never attended mass in Cortes nor Ubay. I might have to do that in the future. :)

puhon mag sige na gyud mi adto sa among farm sa Ilihan, Ubay kay ming daug among ig agaw na si Ricky Gatal as barangay captain didto, we used to go there often when we were kids.

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Re: The Churches in Bohol
« Reply #154 on: November 12, 2010, 04:48:07 AM »
The Infant King Church in Cortes according to my grand-aunts, is a miraculous church. They told me when I was still a baby, they used to offer me to Sto. Niño in a dancing ceremony because I was very sickly as a child, that takes place during the town fiesta which is 16th of January.

They told me also that during the war, there were several attempts to drop bombs on the church. howver, it landed on Abatan River. The old folks believed that the patron blew those bombs away.






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Re: The Churches in Bohol
« Reply #155 on: November 12, 2010, 06:02:46 AM »
yes indeed. sr. sto. niño is very miraculous.

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« Reply #156 on: November 12, 2010, 08:21:19 AM »
Yes, brod Ray, The Image of Senor Santo Nino is indeed very miraculous.
For me, he has been integral to my study and my success and my understanding, wherever i have gone, to undergrad college, medical proper, and now in chicago, he has always accompanied me. The same Image of Senor Santo Nino.

This week started our novena for Senor Santo Nino. Hapit napood ijang fiesta, this coming january 15.

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Re: The Churches in Bohol
« Reply #157 on: November 12, 2010, 08:29:05 AM »
The Infant King Church in Cortes according to my grand-aunts, is a miraculous church. They told me when I was still a baby, they used to offer me to Sto. Niño in a dancing ceremony because I was very sickly as a child, that takes place during the town fiesta which is 16th of January.

They told me also that during the war, there were several attempts to drop bombs on the church. howver, it landed on Abatan River. The old folks believed that the patron blew those bombs away.






the image of the santo nino in Valencia Church is also from the late 18th century, and i was able to visit it when i went home. miraculous bitaw kaayo. i can speak out of personal experience. when i visited the basilica de santo nino in cebu, i was touched.

I went to buy flowers across the street and was about to buy a big bushel of roses from an and adult for 90 pesos, but something told me not to. instead, some little child from the corner tugged my shirt to buy the three roses for only 20 pesos. the child's face was very innocent. i gave the child 20 pesos and turned around to get my wallet to give him a tip, when i turned around he was gone. disappeared.

i told my cousin about that incident and she said kono that it was probably the santo nino. :)

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Re: The Churches in Bohol
« Reply #158 on: November 12, 2010, 11:58:54 AM »
yes indeed. sr. sto. niño is very miraculous.

sa Cebu mi nag adto and my first time to visit inside, very nice and a lot of churchgoers go there everyday, gi bagyo lang gyud ang among pag adto, naabtan mi ug baha sa sulod sa simbahan.thanks God we came out OK

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« Reply #159 on: November 16, 2010, 07:35:23 AM »
hehe maayo na ning adto mo ning bisita ni Senyor Santo Nino bisan ning uwan sa gawas. Maluuy ang Ginoo ninyo jud.

Para nako, Mikey, to come before the Miraculous Image of Senyor Santo Nino was a powerful moment in my life.

God is Good...always...

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