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BETRAYALS FROM INGRATOS / INGRATAS
« on: July 31, 2007, 01:51:31 AM »

The world is full of betrayals from ingratos o ingratas.  Kay kung moasenso na ang tawo dili na kahibalo molingon kung asa siya gikan.  Sila ang mga tawo nga hindi dapat tularan.

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1.  Angel Locsin's transfer from GMA to ABS - CBN.
2.  Mga Pinoys sa Tate (USA) nga taas kaayo manulti.
3.  Mga Bol-anon nga maulaw motug-an nga taga Bohol ilang kagikan.
4.  Mga politiko nga wala motuman sa ilang mga commitments.
5.  Mga anak nga nalimot o nagsalikway sa ilang ginikanan.
6.  Mga tawo nga wala makaila ug ugsay " utang kabubut-on".

ug uban pa....

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 02:12:22 AM »
7. mga tawo nga mangutang nya kung paninglan mao pay mangaway sa giutangan (apil na?)

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 07:24:01 AM »
7. mga tawo nga mangutang nya kung paninglan mao pay mangaway sa giutangan (apil na?)

A debt can make a person blind. The debtor pretends not to see the creditor when the latter comes to collect.

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 07:24:36 AM »
This smacks of a grand conspiracy to hide the non-existent, to identify the nameless, to paint a picture of the unseen. -- Benelynne

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 09:01:56 AM »
9. mga tawo na kusog mosipsip or manggamit samtang naa pa sila'y makuha sa isigkatawo,nya bayaan kung wala na'y makuha.. :-\

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2007, 02:17:47 AM »


Kahibalo ko nga sakit nato dawaton sa kaugalingon kung matungnan ta.  pero mas maayo ug gaan sa atong kasingkasing kung dawaton nato ang mga sayop mientras baskog pa atong lawas o kinabuhi.  Because when we switch the negative to positive values, it begets good things and we still have time to savor and enjoy them kaysa ulahi na ang tanan kung wala na ta. Agree???

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2007, 03:17:17 AM »
10. Bernie Fabiosa (During a fiesta speach):"Mga kababayan, pasensya na kayo, maglisod na ko sulti ug bisaya kay THUGAY na ko sa Manila".

......As narrated by Rocky Gatal

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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2007, 04:35:38 AM »

Kahibalo ko nga sakit nato dawaton sa kaugalingon kung matungnan ta.  pero mas maayo ug gaan sa atong kasingkasing kung dawaton nato ang mga sayop mientras baskog pa atong lawas o kinabuhi.  Because when we switch the negative to positive values, it begets good things and we still have time to savor and enjoy them kaysa ulahi na ang tanan kung wala na ta. Agree???

Agree Jun! mas maayo ug sundon pud nato ang rule nga CSC (Criticize, then Self-Criticize)

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2007, 07:58:01 AM »
10. Bernie Fabiosa (During a fiesta speach):"Mga kababayan, pasensya na kayo, maglisod na ko sulti ug bisaya kay THUGAY na ko sa Manila".

......As narrated by Rocky Gatal
dili gyud ko mutuo na kung naa ka na sa laing lugar makalimtan na nimo ang imo pinulungan...kaartehan ra na!

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2007, 06:45:47 PM »


Bitaw kaartehan gyud. pareha sa usa ka estorya nga taga manila kuno siya nga wala makaila ug unsay alimango?

Ano ito???? pag-paak sa alimango, nisinggit ug ( LITSENG y*&^% MAN NING ALIMANGOHA, MAMAAK MAN DIAY ) hehehehe...

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2007, 08:11:37 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2007, 11:21:10 PM »
dili gyud ko mutuo na kung naa ka na sa laing lugar makalimtan na nimo ang imo pinulungan...kaartehan ra na!

agree! hinuon magakalintuwad ang grammar motuo ko, kay kung dili na mapraktis ug storya pero dili jud mahikalimtan kay kana nagdagan na sa atong kaugatan  :)

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2007, 12:18:22 AM »

Duna pay nindut paminawon nga trying hard magtinagalog nga bisaya.

Ang manileno mangagda ug pangaon mosulti ug " Halika na kayo, huwag kayong mahiya...."

Ang trying hard, niingon man nga, "Hoy halika na kaon na kayo, mga walang hiya." hehehehe



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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2007, 12:46:13 AM »
Duna pay nindut paminawon nga trying hard magtinagalog nga bisaya.

Ang manileno mangagda ug pangaon mosulti ug " Halika na kayo, huwag kayong mahiya...."

Ang trying hard, niingon man nga, "Hoy halika na kaon na kayo, mga walang hiya." hehehehe



Mao nay giingon sa telepono nga: "Hello, Sino ni?"

Pag-naa gani koy Bisaya nga mga friends nga mo-email nako or mo-chat nako unya Tagalog-tagolon ko nga kabalo man ko nga Bisaja sijang dako ug ako sab Bisaja, I stopped communicating with them. I just don't feel comfortable with people who are so proud nga nagtinagalog na kintahay sila.

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 01:17:00 AM »
Mao nay giingon sa telepono nga: "Hello, Sino ni?"

Pag-naa gani koy Bisaya nga mga friends nga mo-email nako or mo-chat nako unya Tagalog-tagolon ko nga kabalo man ko nga Bisaja sijang dako ug ako sab Bisaja, I stopped communicating with them. I just don't feel comfortable with people who are so proud nga nagtinagalog na kintahay sila.

mao bitaw no? lahi ra nga magsige tagalog nga kabalo man unta nga mga bisaya ta.. hinuon kung naay laing naminaw nga tagalog nya apil sa storya, ok ra magtagalog. pero kami ra duha magtagalog nya puro mi bisaya, asus kalahi ra jud.

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2007, 01:44:34 AM »

Sakto gyod kay kahibalo man ta sa ethics of communicating effectively, kung dunay dili bisaya, siempre atong gamiton ang lenguahe na acceptable sa tanan or majority.

May I relate what transpired dindi sa Saudi sa unang panahon. Maulaw baya magbinisaya ang mga bisaya dire kay bugal bugalan lang intawon.  Pero wala seguro makatagpo (makakita ug kalevel nga mangaway o assertive) ang mga mobiay biay nga hawod nga mga bisaya.

What we did, we organized the Bisayang Igsoon Sa Sawdi Arabya or (BISAYA). I was one of the founding officers; and most of us who initiated such grouping were really the who's who in the community of overseas workers.  From then, we were successful until today in changing the scenario. Karon luoy kaayo ang Tagalog kon mojoin sa Bisaya, mag tanga lang intawon.


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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2007, 01:53:59 AM »
Long Live, Jun Ayag! Jun Ayag is a catalyst.

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2007, 01:55:28 AM »
dili jud ko maulaw magbisaya, dili sab ko maulaw magtagalog haha

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2007, 02:10:38 PM »

in addition to what we started in BISAYA, nahimo ni siya nga mother organization sa mga regional associations like grupo sa mga Waray, Ilonggo, Leyteno, ug uban pa nga probinsiya nga kahibalo manulti ug binisaya.  And this has made tremendous contribution in the overseas community.

Karon ang ubang founders already settled in Cadana, USA ug nanguli na sa Pinas.
Mao nga bisan asa mong dapita sa kalibutan, proud gyod ka, kay sa tinuoray, lahi gyud ang mga bisaya kay sa mga tagalog. Matud pa sa akong uncle who is based in Zurich, Switzerland kung naa ka laing lugar wala gyud laing dali motabang nimo kundi mga Bisayans labina Bol-anon.

Dili baya tinuod ang giingon nga ija-ija aho-aho. I always assert to all my friends and acquaintances nga dili makakita ang tawo ug laing probinsiya nga makapakaon ug tawo bisag dili kaila labina ug piyesta compared sa laing mga pronvinces, dili naman gani mogasto o mocelebrate ug piyesta ang uban, pero ang Bol anon malipay gyod magpakaon, manawag man gani.


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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2007, 08:10:56 AM »
tinuod gyud na,naa man gani uban natong Bol-anon bisan walay kuwarta mangutang jud para naa lay ihikay sa fiesta... :-\

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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2007, 04:18:23 AM »


mao nga kitang mga Bo-anon kinahanglan mosukol ta kon bugalbugalan ta, dili lang ta mangaway, ipasabot o ipakita nila ug unsay tinuod nato nga batasan, kay sa dili lang ta motingog o masuko lang og mura og ignorante.

Basta ako kung dunay manaway magbantay lang gyud siya kung dili siya matamayon, pero kung mas perfect siya nako tan-awon kuno kay pangitaan gyod siya nako ug sawayunon.  Mao wala mobugal bogal sa mga bisaya kon mopakita ta nga dili diay angay bogal bugalan.

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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2007, 04:27:11 AM »
cge lang oy. thats life.  iya iya aho aho nalang .

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2007, 04:40:38 AM »


nobody lives being individualistic, it is through teamwork ug dili ta as aho aho lang kay unya oroy ug unsa mahitabo nato mora lang unya ta ug iro o iring na naligsan nga pasagdan....

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2007, 05:54:51 PM »
dili jud ko maulaw magbisaya, dili sab ko maulaw magtagalog haha

dili sad ko maulaw magbisaya or magtagalog pro awkward lang ko magtagalog so maau pa iningles,hehe!

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2007, 08:57:15 PM »
Bitaw dili jod nato kalimtan kun asa ta gikan pero nahitabo ni nako gikan lagi ta sa probinsya pag abot nako sa manila nanuruy mi sa Divisoria.ug daghan laging lagmi nga mga tinda nag ta aw tan aw pod lagi ta. ang mga tindira  kusog nag abi abi kanamo isip mga customer ug klarong mga bisaja ug saksak sinagul  ang mga istoryahan..ingon dayon "bili na mo sa among paninda...sige na" ug ni atobang sya nako ug niingon "ikaw kuya nakapili naka?" Bisaja lagi ta ako gitubag deritso " unja na nalibog pa ko kon unsa ako a." Ug naunsa bang bajeha nasuko mag kalit ug niignon..Ang bastos mo..bastos..dito ka pa magpalipas nang libog.... pero nganong mau waw man ko sija man ang may malisya ug hunahuna..bisaja jod ta...hahaha..

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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2007, 09:15:29 PM »
Pero kon tu a ko sa Manila puro jod bisaya ako estoryahan.kon sa Jeepney ko moingon ko sa driver "Bay  diha lang ko sa eskena." mohunong man pod ang driver lagi. ug na a pay mga pasahero moingon " taga asa diay ka sa bisaya bay? ako kumedyahan sa Chocolate hills!". moingon sila ahh.. taga  BOHOL diay ka...nindot raba kono diha...
Kinahanglan dili ta mauwaw. Ang mga taga Luzon alkanse sa atoa. kita makasabot sa ilaha, sila dili makasabot sa atoa problema na nila na kon dili sila makasabot sa atoa... di ba mga SANO!

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2007, 11:56:27 PM »


sakto gyod ka luis, nganong maulaw man? pero kun naa ta sa usa ka okasyon nga majority dili bisiya, mas ethical gyod nga dili ta magbinisaya. pakita sad nato nga kahibalo ta motahod, pero kung puro ta bisaya, bahala na tong maninaw uy wala bitaw silay labut.

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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2007, 08:54:02 AM »
sakto gyud....kahinumdum lang ko sa ako kauban,ingon siya ayaw gyud pag binisaya kung naa ta sa Manila kay ilaron nya kuno or holdapon :-\

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2007, 09:30:09 PM »

sakto gyod ka luis, nganong maulaw man? pero kun naa ta sa usa ka okasyon nga majority dili bisiya, mas ethical gyod nga dili ta magbinisaya. pakita sad nato nga kahibalo ta motahod, pero kung puro ta bisaya, bahala na tong maninaw uy wala bitaw silay labut.

Bisab kung dili okasyon nya magtapok or magkuyog sa mga amiga nga naay tagalog magtagalog man mi kay para dili sab ma out of place tong tagalog nga amiga.. or bisan dili tagalog basta dili kasabot ug cebuano/bol-anon, magtagalog mi oi.

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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2007, 03:55:41 AM »


kay kung buhaton sad nila sa ato nga kita ray bisaya unya sila kapampangan o ilocano, then mura sad ta ug tanga, ma out of place gyod ta.  So kinahanglan, we know how to be flexible.

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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2007, 06:04:11 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2007, 01:14:12 AM »


pero unsaon man nato ang mga politiko nga nasakit ug "amnesia"? kadtong nakalimot o wala na kaila nimo after the election... looya sa mga tawo oy, nagpapalit man god sa boto... so dili na motuman ang ubang politiko sa ilang gipromise nga mga proyekto, kay nidawat man ka....

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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2007, 02:08:09 AM »
sakto gyud....kahinumdum lang ko sa ako kauban,ingon siya ayaw gyud pag binisaya kung naa ta sa Manila kay ilaron nya kuno or holdapon :-\
mao sad na akong gisulti sa akong mga pinsan from manila na dili magtinagalog if moadto sa cebu aron dili ilaron! hahahahahah! balos2x ra diay!

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« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2007, 02:37:49 AM »


in general, duna jud culture ang mga tagalog on superiority sa mga bisaya mao nga kadtong mga bisaya nga taas sad ug tan-aw sa kaugalingon mosundog sad sa mga tagalog bisan baya nga taga bisaya.

parehas god sa uban nga bisan pila lang kabulan nipuyo sa USA or UK, mag slang mag sulti.  pero dunay uban nga bisan pila na ka tuig down to earth gyod magbinisaya o tinagalog.

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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2007, 03:01:48 PM »


the right thing kong fluent ka sa English and you want to be understood by the majority of your listeners or audience then you have to speak straight English and the same too if your audience is a Bisaya or Tagalog unless you're a linguist that you could communicate regarless of their regional affiliations and/or nationalities.

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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2007, 03:16:16 PM »
Mga examples:

1.  Angel Locsin's transfer from GMA to ABS - CBN.
2.  Mga Pinoys sa Tate (USA) nga taas kaayo manulti.
3.  Mga Bol-anon nga maulaw motug-an nga taga Bohol ilang kagikan.
4.  Mga politiko nga wala motuman sa ilang mga commitments.
5.  Mga anak nga nalimot o nagsalikway sa ilang ginikanan.
6.  Mga tawo nga wala makaila ug ugsay " utang kabubut-on".

ug uban pa....

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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2007, 03:18:59 PM »


asking such question is tantamount for its advocacy...

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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2007, 06:16:55 PM »

the right thing kong fluent ka sa English and you want to be understood by the majority of your listeners or audience then you have to speak straight English and the same too if your audience is a Bisaya or Tagalog unless you're a linguist that you could communicate regarless of their regional affiliations and/or nationalities.

Pero kung moadto ka sa singapore nya maayo kaayo ka mosulti ug english, tagsa ra makasabot nimo kay ang ilaha, singlish man

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2007, 09:07:07 PM »


with our deficiency in learning new language to be able to immerse a new environment, we have to learn.  we must strive to learn the basic...

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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2007, 10:44:45 PM »
yes, kinahanglan gyud mo learn kay mag nga-nga rata di ta kasabot...Karon na confuse naku kay bag-o rako na kamao ug Danish unya i-shift naku into Norwegian na pud....labad ulo oi. ;D

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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2007, 10:46:34 PM »
human ana, swedish napud imo e-learn  ;D

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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2007, 11:18:31 PM »
lisod daw ang dnaish compared sa ubang languages. last year, a danish ambassador to asia visited bohol ako ang nagguide nila kay gireco0mmend ko sa akong cousin who's in denmark. lisod lagi kuno ang ilang language.


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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2007, 11:19:53 PM »
lisud jud, moingon gud sila nga, basta magstorya ka sa danish mura ka nagkaon ug hot potato

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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2007, 11:20:54 PM »
lisod daw ang dnaish compared sa ubang languages. last year, a danish ambassador to asia visited bohol ako ang nagguide nila kay gireco0mmend ko sa akong cousin who's in denmark. lisod lagi kuno ang ilang language.


lisud kaayo Leo kay daghan kaayo silent words...though similar ra sa norwegian, mas lahi ang pronounciation. ingon sila, in order to speak danish, you have to eat a hot potato...;D

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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2007, 04:10:43 AM »


magpatudlo unya ko ninyo ha aron sa malinguist ko. nindot man kong daghan ta ug hibaw-an.

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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2007, 03:42:47 AM »
hahaha, maglung-ag lang ka daan ug patatas kuya  ;D

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« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2007, 11:03:48 PM »
yes oi, bahala magkalintuwad ang dila basta happy, lingaw man sab mag-learn ug new language  :)

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« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2007, 11:41:36 PM »
unsa man mag sugod nata? samtang presko pa akong danish..;D

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« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2007, 11:43:08 PM »
unsaon man pagkadungog ni kuya sa pronounciation ani kung puro post  ;D

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« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2007, 12:44:42 AM »


sorry gilisod lisod man nuon mo; but i really appreciate your enthusiasm to help someone in learning something.  that is good enough to hear... daghan salamat, mga buotan gyod mo da.

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« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2007, 02:28:48 AM »
walay sapajan kuya.. palit nalang ug CD nga dictionary para klaro  :)

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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2007, 04:58:07 AM »


magtoon nalang ko ug ginagmay aron pohon magkita ta atong ipractice, hehehe.

balik ta sa topic, mapasaylo ba nimo ang mga tawo nga nakahinuklog sa ilang kasal-anan nimo? sa ilang pagpakita na walang utang na loob?

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« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2007, 05:31:17 AM »
mapasaylo ba nimo ang mga tawo nga nakahinuklog sa ilang kasal-anan nimo? sa ilang pagpakita na walang utang na loob?

kung nag hinuklog man gani ang maong tawo, mas maayo. pero dili na gyud mabalik ang kanhing pag tratar kun i-kompara sa una...kumbaga di na mauli ug unsa ang naguba nga pagsalig.

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« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2007, 05:52:01 AM »

bitaw no bisan napasaylo na nato ang tawo dili na gyod mahibalik ang kanhing panaghigug maay could it a friend, a spouse, or whoever.  it takes healing time to restore where it was before.

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« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2007, 06:00:22 AM »
well, trust is like a vase.. once it's broken, though you can fix it the vase will never be same again...

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« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2007, 06:08:38 AM »


But there are still people who would go on with the vicious cycle...

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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2007, 03:10:39 AM »
they prefer to be ingratos/ingratas..wala tay mahimo

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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2007, 04:24:24 PM »
Ang kapal bitaw ug nawong ni si Angel Locsin, She is my my Idol in TFC channel sa GMA ako jud gisunod ng Asian Treasure pero nag transfer sa ABS-CBN, Gaba-an gihapon na sya. Dili  na sya mosukat diha sa ABS-CBN.

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« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2007, 11:49:31 PM »


ashton,

that's what we will call "bad karma".  kinahanglan ang usa ka tawo mosabot ug unsa ang utang na loob, it is just a matter of courtesy to approach the concerned individual na napag utangan ng loob if he's involved on something which is elemental to a decision making....

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« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2007, 12:21:01 AM »
sometimes there are reasons for such actions.

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« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2007, 02:15:19 AM »


whatever the reasons, we have to balance mutual interests.... it is just a matter of courtesy.

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« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2007, 12:07:49 AM »
balik ta sa topic, mapasaylo ba nimo ang mga tawo nga nakahinuklog sa ilang kasal-anan nimo? sa ilang pagpakita na walang utang na loob?

Yes I do. I never hated anyone, and if they're my friends I still trust them, somethings but not all.

Kay ako man gud, basta mapasaylo na kalimtan naman na nako basta wala lay mopahinumdum, lubong na jud sa kalimot.

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« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2007, 12:49:03 AM »


kon wala pa ka kalimot and you're still affected, you have not moved on...

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« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2007, 12:56:32 AM »


Pero unsa man tawag adtong mga anak nga dili kahibalo mopasaylo sa mga sayop sa ginikanan???

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« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2007, 12:59:58 AM »


Pero unsa man tawag adtong mga anak nga dili kahibalo mopasaylo sa mga sayop sa ginikanan???

walay batasan, walay respeto...

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« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2007, 08:23:32 AM »
walay puangod,walay igabawos :-\

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« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2007, 02:34:00 PM »


after all sa mga sakripisyo sa ginikanan, ingnon lang lahi na ang panahon sa una ug karon, science and technology change the values... pero dili gyod nako macorrelate ang dili pagrespeto sa mga anak karong panahona...

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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2007, 06:53:57 PM »
Some parents also are badlongon, nag drugs / lasingiro wala nag sunod sa ilang obligation as a parents. ang uban pa gipang rape ang sarili nilang anak. If that is my parents bahala na sya sa buhay nya, utang man ang akong buhay sa kanya, pero mao nay gi-ingon nga nganong gipakatawo pako kung ganito man ang maging buhay ko. So we can't blame kung may mga anak nga dili makapasaylo sa parents nila, kay siguro malaki ang kasal-anan sa ilang parents.

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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2007, 11:13:54 PM »


this type of people is exceptional. they only represent a negligible percentage in the overall scenaripo, ang ako lang ay ang prevailing values... lahi ra gyod sa una.

I agree with you nga dili gyod mabasol ang mga anak kung ang ilang ginikanan badlongon...as said there is always a  reason... but children must understand and look for means to resolve the issues, dili lang pasagdan...

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« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2007, 02:29:06 AM »

as they say, parents are the first role model to their children. If bad ka nga parent, then what can you expect sa imong children...pero sa mga anak pud nga naa pa sa sense, it's a matter of choosing the right way...if they don't want to follow the footsteps of their bad parents then they have to do something to correct it.

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« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2007, 01:56:09 PM »


God gave us he freewill - to make a choice, but people when desperate resort to surrender without making efforts to overcome.... one must not easily give up.

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« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2007, 05:13:31 PM »

Mga examples:

1.  Angel Locsin's transfer from GMA to ABS - CBN.

ug uban pa....


maybe there's a reason why angel transfered from GMA to ABS. sa akong nadunggan wala siya tagae sa iyang gidemand nga talent fee, nga matud pa ubos ra nga rate compared to other guy nga kanunay niya makauban.

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« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2007, 10:06:47 PM »
di ba normal naman nang magbalhin ug channel kung nahuman na ang contract nya dili na ganahan mo renew, or dako ang offer sa pikas?

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« Reply #76 on: August 25, 2007, 02:15:49 AM »

there's no question when one has to move from what you think is right for you... the issue is on courtesy... for the one who nurtured you that made you become of what you are today...

kon nahitabo sa imong amigo nga imong gitabangan unya nawala lang kay didto sa imong kontra, dili gyod ka ganahan kon wala ka sultihi...

one has to be tansparent, straight forward...in telling what is the real score.  sa kang angel man god, gipangutana siya ahead of time but keep on denying, but duna na diay giluto pailawon, traydor ang batasan ani.  mura ka ug nagmata ug buntag nga wala tawon ayo...

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« Reply #78 on: August 25, 2007, 03:24:38 AM »

di lalim ang traydoron, na feel na jud na naku! now, i learned my lesson...di na basta-basta motabang. in any case nga kinahanglan motabang, i don't expect anything bisan courtesy.

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« Reply #79 on: August 25, 2007, 03:25:58 AM »
ana man jud na, kung motabang nga kinasing kasing dili jud mag-expect ug bayad.. kay lahi man ang utang ug tabang

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« Reply #80 on: August 25, 2007, 03:28:10 AM »
ana man jud na, kung motabang nga kinasing kasing dili jud mag-expect ug bayad.. kay lahi man ang utang ug tabang

dili man bayad kun dili courtesy...and beside, di man jud mabayran kung magpa bayad ka...lol! ;D

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« Reply #81 on: August 25, 2007, 03:33:50 AM »
mao pud nay giingon no nga ang gitabangan nalang ang maghunahuna, pero kung dili gani kamao mohuna huna, ok ra gud pud :D

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« Reply #82 on: August 25, 2007, 07:19:54 AM »
The world is full of betrayals from ingratos o ingratas.  Kay kung moasenso na ang tawo dili na kahibalo molingon kung asa siya gikan.  Sila ang mga tawo nga hindi dapat tularan.

Mga examples:

1.  Angel Locsin's transfer from GMA to ABS - CBN.
2.  Mga Pinoys sa Tate (USA) nga taas kaayo manulti.
3.  Mga Bol-anon nga maulaw motug-an nga taga Bohol ilang kagikan.
4.  Mga politiko nga wala motuman sa ilang mga commitments.
5.  Mga anak nga nalimot o nagsalikway sa ilang ginikanan.
6.  Mga tawo nga wala makaila ug ugsay " utang kabubut-on".

ug uban pa....
7. mga tawo nga mangutang nya kung paninglan mao pay mangaway sa giutangan (apil na?)



8. kon much money ka daghan ayo friends then pag kapurdoy nahurot kawala sad imo friends

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« Reply #84 on: August 26, 2007, 07:26:13 AM »
mao lisod mangita ug true friends kon naa ka kwarta kay you never know mao ra di ay na ila after ang wawarts  :(

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« Reply #85 on: August 26, 2007, 10:37:55 AM »
mao lisod mangita ug true friends kon naa ka kwarta kay you never know mao ra di ay na ila after ang wawarts  :(

lol, then my advice for the rich folks is to be prepared to live a life of hermitry, hahah joke lang. Im sure anyone can find true friends out there--just act humble. Diba?

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« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2007, 03:44:51 PM »
i dont have  money  :) :)  im only cute and sweet and above all im HUMBLE hahaha joke joke sir ha

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« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2007, 03:48:11 PM »
sakto gyud....kahinumdum lang ko sa ako kauban,ingon siya ayaw gyud pag binisaya kung naa ta sa Manila kay ilaron nya kuno or holdapon :-\
ahahaha... niingon ra ba ang mga Manilenyo nga ang mga holdapers kono diha sa Manila kay mga Bisaya... ouch!

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« Reply #88 on: August 26, 2007, 03:49:48 PM »
ana man jud na, kung motabang nga kinasing kasing dili jud mag-expect ug bayad.. kay lahi man ang utang ug tabang
mao na'y giingon nga kung mohatag ang imong usa ka palad... ayaw pahibaw-a ang pikas... hehehe...

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« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2007, 03:57:16 PM »
i dont have  money  :) :)  im only cute and sweet and above all im HUMBLE hahaha joke joke sir ha
cute bitaw, hahaha. ayaw pood ko i-call 'sir', hun, kai di man ko tiguwang..haha well i dont feel it...yet.
=P

Mao jud na tho--being humble is always best--good to keep a low profile. ;)

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« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2007, 04:06:08 PM »
pagbantay lang Pre being low profile kung tua ka's Pinas kay kita na hinooy ma-suspekan nga mangongo-ot... kafaets!

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« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2007, 04:14:11 PM »
Mao ba? wa man jud ko na think ana pood...sige, mo watch out pood. Di pood ko gusto mo ratatat kai mo attract attention bitaw? Di man jud ko extroverted--introvert ra ba ko.

Pre, unsa man ang meaning sa 'kafaets'?

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« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2007, 04:17:48 PM »
Mao ba? wa man jud ko na think ana pood...sige, mo watch out pood. Di pood ko gusto mo ratatat kai mo attract attention bitaw? Di man jud ko extroverted--introvert ra ba ko.

Pre, unsa man ang meaning sa 'kafaets'?
kafaets--> slang lang na sa word nga "kapaet"... ahahaha... as in "too bad" or how sad... bisag unsa na lang diha... 

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« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2007, 04:22:49 PM »
hahaha okay ra man pood ko ana, pre! Di pood ta mo show off so we wont get mugged =P specially with all these criminal activities going around--iitargetan man jud kita fil-ams first!

SIMBAKO.

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« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2007, 12:26:09 AM »


mas maayo gyod ang low profile labina kon gikan sa gawas, (no need to blow the horn) makita ra man na sa imong kinaiya, kon baga breeding...

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« Reply #95 on: August 27, 2007, 12:53:51 AM »
Yup! low profile jud ang maau... we're doing a favor sa atong mga less fortunate fellas back home... bahala na ug masuspekan ko nga ako ang mangongo-ot kaysa ako ang mako-otan... hikhikhik!

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« Reply #96 on: August 27, 2007, 12:58:36 AM »


the best thing to do is we have to be vigilant... alert.  Tiaw ba ug maaan ka nga ikaw noon mangongoot...hehehehe.  We just have to be moderate lang....

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« Reply #97 on: August 27, 2007, 01:13:10 AM »
cute bitaw, hahaha. ayaw pood ko i-call 'sir', hun, kai di man ko tiguwang..haha well i dont feel it...yet.
=P

Mao jud na tho--being humble is always best--good to keep a low profile. ;)




ay sorry i call you sir .. pero dili man sad tiguwang lang tawgon ug sir

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« Reply #98 on: August 27, 2007, 01:27:46 AM »


bitaw ang pagtawag og SIR is a sign of respect, not of age...

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« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2007, 02:11:28 AM »





ay sorry i call you sir .. pero dili man sad tiguwang lang tawgon ug sir

oi..ni-blush lang ta ani! hahaha o sige, ma'am.  ;)

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