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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2009, 05:53:31 PM »
It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.

Dear Mabuhay, you must have known how and why a priest is ordained before posting this kind of  statement.

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« Reply #121 on: November 09, 2009, 06:12:48 PM »
hofelina, look at the last 30 years in the American church for a history lesson on what can happen

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« Reply #122 on: November 09, 2009, 06:24:01 PM »
The language from the Detroit Diocese is pretty strongly worded, no ambiguity (http://www.aodonline.org/AODOnline/News%20%20%20Publications%202203/Press%20Releases%202303/2009%2016871/091026Regarding%20Snap.htm):

Several years ago, the archdiocese became aware of Skelton's ordination as a Catholic priest in the Taglibaran diocese in the Philippines. Not consulted prior to the ordination, the Detroit archdiocese has since contacted the bishop of Taglibaran, to whom Skelton reports, regarding the priest's criminal history in Michigan. In summary, Joseph Skelton does not minister here nor would he be welcome or permitted to function as a priest in this archdiocese.

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« Reply #123 on: November 09, 2009, 06:46:46 PM »
It would have been FAR WISER to quietly retire him from public duty long before now.
I agree. Putting him in public ministry where He constantly  around with young boys is like playing fire with fire.

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« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2009, 09:49:09 PM »
There is a very tenuous line between a person who seeks a renewed life in a new environment and a plain and simple criminal fugitive disguised in holy garb.

I agree with Bay Hubs that if the Church wants to take a risk, it should decide to err on the side of caution.

The language from the Detroit Diocese is pretty strongly worded, no ambiguity (http://www.aodonline.org/AODOnline/News%20%20%20Publications%202203/Press%20Releases%202303/2009%2016871/091026Regarding%20Snap.htm):

Several years ago, the archdiocese became aware of Skelton's ordination as a Catholic priest in the Taglibaran diocese in the Philippines. Not consulted prior to the ordination, the Detroit archdiocese has since contacted the bishop of Taglibaran, to whom Skelton reports, regarding the priest's criminal history in Michigan. In summary, Joseph Skelton does not minister here nor would he be welcome or permitted to function as a priest in this archdiocese.

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« Reply #125 on: November 11, 2009, 02:16:46 AM »
Bahin sa akong giingon nga "open secret" na kini diri sa Bohol, this means nga current and ongoing pa. And allegedly he is not the only one. And then kadtong dili lang sex-related, mostly about father fathers, with from bata pa hangtud college students na ang mga anak. Currenly adunay kaso ang usa ka pari nga na assign sa western Bohol who reportedly lumped all church collections with separate bank accounts (special projects, devotional boxes, permits and fees, mass collections) into his personal account. Hangtud karon wala pay action and Diocese bisan kon iya ning gubuhat shortly after his installation in his new parish last June 2009.   

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« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2009, 02:20:45 AM »
Kadtong alleged pedo nga padi kanunay kunong makit-an mosulod sa mga sleazy sinehan sa Cebu to solicit for a quick whatever. Current pud ni.   

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« Reply #127 on: November 11, 2009, 03:34:14 AM »
Bahin sa akong giingon nga "open secret" na kini diri sa Bohol, this means nga current and ongoing pa. And allegedly he is not the only one. And then kadtong dili lang sex-related, mostly about father fathers, with from bata pa hangtud college students na ang mga anak. Currenly adunay kaso ang usa ka pari nga na assign sa western Bohol who reportedly lumped all church collections with separate bank accounts (special projects, devotional boxes, permits and fees, mass collections) into his personal account. Hangtud karon wala pay action and Diocese bisan kon iya ning gubuhat shortly after his installation in his new parish last June 2009.   


Ako no? ok ra jud ko ug ang pari naay anak sa gawas. Kay laki gud na! i really dont care. Syempre ila man jud na buhion kay ila man na anak. Pero kana lang mga pedo murag di jud ko maka dawat ana nga naa sa mga kabataang barangay nag lider-lider. Traumatic man gud na sha. Kanang mga kabataan nga  ning agi ana nga klase nga abuse, bisan tuod unconciously they think it didnt affect them pero makita man na sa behavior nila pagka dako nga ning agi ana. It really could affect his personality.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2009, 04:53:07 AM »
naa koy kaila nga pari, suod kaayo namo. tulo jud iyang anak ug college students naman gani ang 2.

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« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2009, 02:10:11 PM »
Kadtong alleged pedo nga padi kanunay kunong makit-an mosulod sa mga sleazy sinehan sa Cebu to solicit for a quick whatever. Current pud ni.   

Unja ang isuhol, koleksyon sa simbahan. Paet.  :P

Easy come, easy go. (Pwede pud kaha easy come, easy come?)

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« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2009, 08:51:23 PM »
Kadtong alleged pedo nga padi kanunay kunong makit-an mosulod sa mga sleazy sinehan sa Cebu to solicit for a quick whatever. Current pud ni.   
Tan awa lagi di jud ni siya mausob kay once a pedo always a pedo. Mokatow jud ning uwag ani unya ang kapait kay sa pagkakaron naa pa siyay ikasuhol mao adto siya sa layo maghasik nang lagim aw di diay maghasik nang lagim manghatag ra diay ug collection sa simbahan hehhehe.

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Re: Praise & worship leader priest in Bohol has an unpraiseworthy past
« Reply #132 on: November 11, 2009, 10:10:40 PM »
Asa na man ning Amerkanong Pari karon?
Naghawid ba siyag parokya sa Bohol?
Wala bay gihimo ang Obispo sa Archdiocese of Bohol?
.... kay nagpadayon pa man kaha kini
ug pamusgay sa mga inosenteng bata diha?
Kauli lang ko diha, pangitaon ko na siya ug sumbagon.

Ubani ko Hubs.

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« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2009, 11:37:53 PM »
fr. joseph s. w. skelton, jr. is the parochial vicar of saint vincent ferrer parish of calape. im just wondering why it took sometime for detroit clergies to notice him. he went back to the US together with the singing priest of bohol to do a series concerts for the fund raising they made for the standardization of salary of the priests in bohol.

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« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2009, 11:41:18 PM »
Asa na man ning Amerkanong Pari karon?

Naa sa Calape Gwagz duol na raman sa Loon.

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« Reply #135 on: November 12, 2009, 02:21:58 AM »
he went back to the US together with the singing priest of bohol to do a series concerts for the fund raising they made for the standardization of salary of the priests in bohol.


was not noticed of course with the singing priests, not the singing kids. kay ug singing kids pa to di na sha kabalik sa Bohol...

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« Reply #136 on: November 12, 2009, 04:10:49 AM »
The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran (SPOT)

Origin: Tagbilaran City, Bohol, Philippines

Genres: Religious, Pop, Jazz

Years active: 1998 – Present

Labels: DartPro, LLC

Associated acts: Chorus Paulinus, Singing Priests of San Francisco

Website: Singing Priests of Tagbilaran

Members, 2003:

Arnold Zamora
Melchisedech E. Monreal
Irvin B. Garsuta
Justino H. Estoque, Jr.
Bonifacio G. Espeleta, Jr.
Jeffrey P. Malanog
Joseph Swanee Skelton, Jr.
 
Former members, 1998:  

Arnold Zamora
Melchisedech E. Monreal
Justino H. Estoque, Jr.
Bonifacio G. Espeleta, Jr.
Jeffrey P. Malanog
Petronilo "Jun" Ligtas, Jr.
 
The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran or SPOT is a group of Catholic priests from Bohol, Philippines. In addition to preaching sermons they also evangelize from the stage in songs and dances.

The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran were formed in 1998 by Paring Bol-anon Fathers Arnold Zamora, Melchisedech "Edick" E. Monreal, Justino "Loy" H. Estoque, Jr., Bonifacio "Boy" G. Espeleta, Jr., Jeffrey "Oloy" P. Malanog and Petronilo "Jun" Ligtas, Jr.

In 2003, the group was composed of Fathers Arnold Zamora, Melchisedech "Edick" E. Monreal, Irvin B. Garsuta, Justino "Loy" H. Estoque, Jr., Bonifacio "Boy" G. Espeleta, Jr., Jeffrey "Oloy" P. Malanog, Joseph Swanee Skelton, Jr., and pianist, Mr. Joseph D. Namoc.

The Singing Priests of Tagbilaran are all graduates of the Immaculate Heart of Mary Seminary. The members come from different graduating classes and age groups, but all received their musical training from the same seminary.[citation needed]

With the common desire to share their talents along with their philosophy of joy, prayer and fun, they bonded together to form a singing group called SPOT (Singing Priests of Tagbilaran). The group is also named SPOTlight since they seek to bear "the light of Christ" to the world.

In the Philippines, SPOT has performed in many concerts. They were the main attraction in the diocesan production, HIUSATLO (three acting in unison). They staged a solo concert, Valentine's SPOTlight, at the Bohol Tropics Resort in February, 1998.

In the summer of 1998, they gave concerts for religious causes in the United States. They performed in many cities in California including San Francisco, South San Francisco, San Jose, Stockton, Los Angeles, Redwood City, Foster City, Santa Maria and Vallejo. They also performed in Seattle, WA and Las Vegas, NV. The proceeds from these series of benefit concerts in the United States was used as the seed money of the priests' standard living allowance, a monthly standard salary for priests in Bohol, Philippines.

Their debut album entitlled Singing Priests of Tagbilaran, contains a repertoire of religious and popular songs in English, Tagalog and Cebuano. This album also highlights the works of Father Arnold Zamora, the group's musical arranger and accompanist. This compilation of songs portrays the universal message of love and peace. The blending of their voices characterizes human emotions of joy, hope, sorrow and understanding.

In 2003, the second batch of SPOT did concerts in San Francisco, California, Fairfield, California, Sacramento, CA, Stockton, CA, Houston, Texas, Chicago, Illinois, Orlando, Florida, Miami, Florida, West Palm Beach, Florida, and Los Angeles, California. Proceeds from the benefit were for the retired and sickly priests of the Diocese of Tagbilaran, Bohol. In addition, the proceeds were used for the health plan of the clergy.

Fr. Eugene D. Tungol, Pastor of the Epiphany Church in San Francisco, California was a major catalyst [citation needed] in all of SPOT's concerts in the U.S.

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« Reply #137 on: November 12, 2009, 04:17:22 AM »
Nia man ning mga ngalan sa ijang mga singing colleagues. Unsa kahay ilang ikasulti bahin ani nija, no? Dili tingali sila angay maghilom-hilom.

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« Reply #138 on: November 12, 2009, 05:22:47 AM »
dili naman kaayo ni sila active gud karon. pero sure jud nga magkita na sila everytime magmeeting sila.

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« Reply #139 on: November 28, 2009, 01:05:07 AM »
Naay laing group of Boholano singing priests. Upat ra ni sila, apil si Fr. Garsuta. Naka release ni sila og bag-ong CD, gipamaligya sa Diocese of Talibon. Morag taga Diocese of Talibon ni sila tanan kay di man ko familiar nila, even Fr. Garsuta, nga cousin man unta sa akong bro-in-law.

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« Reply #140 on: November 28, 2009, 07:10:48 AM »
Mas importante ron si Bishop Medroso ang pangutan-on kung unsay lihok iyang gibuhat, kay siya ma'y naa'y tulubagon sa tanang pari sa diocese. Murag wala may pangusog gikan sa publiko aron maghatag ug pahayag ang tinahod nga obispo.

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« Reply #141 on: November 28, 2009, 03:03:12 PM »
pagkalisud ang kinabuhi sa mga pari labi na ug gwapuhun kay daghang
mga tsikas nga magpabirig birig, inig simba pagka domingo adtu jud sila
mopahaluna sa unahan para mapansin ni priest.

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« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2009, 10:04:01 AM »
Surprisingly, given this news, his views are rather at the conservative end of the Catholic spectrum.  Latin masses, no gay marriage etc.
He's nice guy from my experiences meeting and talking with him.  

Edit: I'll get on the pulpit about conservatism.  This morning I noticed that a woman was ordered to leave Baclayon Cathedral because she had a spaghetti top.  It's a hot country, and why should we be prudish, ashamed of our bodies?  For the Church to cover up the buggery of boys and yet publicly admonish tropical clothing tells me that sexuality is a big problem for that organisation.

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« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2009, 10:12:28 AM »
From my experience of meeting Father Joseph Skelton, he is a nice person.

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« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2009, 02:02:09 PM »
From my experience of meeting Father Joseph Skelton, he is a nice person.


pilay edad nimo Tig??? wahahahhaha! jawk.

bitaw oi they (predators) are all extremely nice! wa ka kabalo ana Tigs?

mao na ilang front...

mao bitaw to akong thread sa una di na ko kadumdom, nga who really SATAN is?

Kay si Satan is very nice ang good looking guy. dili nang inyung gina illustrate nga naay sungay ug maut.

Kay ug si Satan maut pa kaayo wa jud ma allure ana nija.

Got what i mean?? PIPOL???

So ayaw dayun mo padala to people who are EXTREMELY nice kay naa sad uban ana nila who has very dark SPIRIT.

I have so many examples pero di nalang ko mag tell kay ma shock unja ang uban!

 ;)  ;)  ;)

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« Reply #145 on: December 10, 2009, 11:06:05 PM »
I am surprised that this writer of this news article did not present a fair side from Father Skeleton?

Father Skeleton anytime when I have had an opportunity to run into him has always been a very polite and well mannered priest that shows his kind personality very well.

I was actually shocked when I had heard about this through a friend who comes from one of the same media club's as I do.

He asked me my opinion and i said that I was not aware of Skeleton having any dark pasts, and then this friend of mine said in a very polite way "We have not called the USA to really confirm this action or not"  I honestly did not have any ideal what he was talking about as I have not been keeping up on the news due to moving this past months.

I see Fr. Joseph Skeleton as a really well loved and welcomed priest here. When we have conversations he sounds very educated and conservative he also comes across as very conservative and never has a bad word to say about anyone.

He has a weekly radio program over KISS FM every Sunday and is always encouraging people to do well by God and Christ and keeps reminding his listeners to always have love in their hearts.

I am a lady and when we do talk to one another he is always making sure he is at a distance from me but he listens and replies back very educated sounding.

I honestly appreciate what he has done for people here.

I do not even think that this has been confirmed yet? We are not to judge we should be about encouraging ourselves and others to do they're best in life.

I wish Fr. Skeleton to come out of this clean forgiven and unhurt both physically and mentally.

Molester, or a Pedophile does not fit the type of person that he is being talked about.

Thank You for your time.

 

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« Reply #146 on: December 10, 2009, 11:57:38 PM »
Romans 3:23, "For All have fallen from the Glory of God."

Everyone sins, everyone has blasphemed before the Lord. Everyone is imperfect before the Perfect Eyes of Divine Providence. All we can do is to treat others with respect.

In regards to Fr. Skelton, he continues to be in our prayers.

Christ Jesus strengthen all of us to show and manifest good and moral Christian Virtues.

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« Reply #147 on: December 11, 2009, 03:32:04 PM »

pilay edad nimo Tig??? wahahahhaha! jawk.

bitaw oi they (predators) are all extremely nice! wa ka kabalo ana Tigs?

mao na ilang front...

mao bitaw to akong thread sa una di na ko kadumdom, nga who really SATAN is?

Kay si Satan is very nice ang good looking guy. dili nang inyung gina illustrate nga naay sungay ug maut.

Kay ug si Satan maut pa kaayo wa jud ma allure ana nija.

Got what i mean?? PIPOL???

So ayaw dayun mo padala to people who are EXTREMELY nice kay naa sad uban ana nila who has very dark SPIRIT.

I have so many examples pero di nalang ko mag tell kay ma shock unja ang uban!

 ;)  ;)  ;)

Wahahahahahaha. Nkatawa ko aning imong post Te. Well, anyway tiguwang na ko, 23 anyos na intawon ko.

Mao pud bitaw ni nga magtakuban lagi kono ning manghimuay ug katalagman.

Watch you step mang kaha lagi kay slippery floor man. :D

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« Reply #148 on: December 12, 2009, 06:17:54 AM »
nahimo naman nuong father skeleton. hahahaha.

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« Reply #149 on: December 12, 2009, 06:57:47 AM »
an excerpt of a BBC article about the Pope´s reaction to clergy´s pedophile abuse (relevant to this thread)

"He wishes once more to express his profound regret at the actions of some members of the clergy who have betrayed their solemn promises to God, as well as the trust placed in them by the victims and their families, and by society at large."

The Pope summoned the Primate of All Ireland, Cardinal Sean Brady, to Rome after the Vatican was criticised for failing to respond to the Murphy inquiry.


  The Holy See takes very seriously the central issues raised by the Report, including questions concerning the governance of local Church leaders with ultimate responsibility for the pastoral care of children.


The Holy Father intends to address a Pastoral Letter to the faithful of Ireland in which he will clearly indicate the initiatives that are to be taken in response to the situation.



Finally, His Holiness encourages all those who have dedicated their lives in generous service to children to persevere in their good works in imitation of Christ the Good Shepherd.

The Murphy report, which was published two weeks ago, laid bare a culture of concealment within the Dublin archdiocese and found that four consecutive archbishops prioritised the church's reputation above the welfare of children who were being physically and sexually abused.

Instead, paedophile priests were moved from parish to parish, free to repeat their actions on new victims.

Immediately after the publication, Cardinal Brady said he was "deeply sorry and ashamed" at the abuse of children described in the report.



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« Reply #150 on: December 14, 2009, 06:55:50 AM »
whaha³ nag dobli naman cguro ako panan-aw
ky pagbasa nako, wat comes to my mind? ang pari nga kalabira
mibahakhak kog katawa unja midoul akong mga bwesita ug gidakol ko diwe
gipabalik ug read nyahaha³ - huuh sowe kaajo

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« Reply #151 on: December 14, 2009, 11:06:00 AM »
whaha³ nag dobli naman cguro ako panan-aw
ky pagbasa nako, wat comes to my mind? ang pari nga kalabira
mibahakhak kog katawa unja midoul akong mga bwesita ug gidakol ko diwe
gipabalik ug read nyahaha³ - huuh sowe kaajo


Sus Blew daghan na ta halap ani oi! hahahah!

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« Reply #152 on: December 14, 2009, 09:08:31 PM »

Sus Blew daghan na ta halap ani oi! hahahah!

unja unZaon man na nga ka klarex ana kang Precious nga post -Father Skeleton nyahaha³

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« Reply #153 on: December 15, 2009, 11:07:39 AM »
unja unZaon man na nga ka klarex ana kang Precious nga post -Father Skeleton nyahaha³

bitaw haskang katawa nako ana! hahahaha!

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« Reply #154 on: February 02, 2010, 09:26:23 PM »
Wahahahahahaha. Nkatawa ko aning imong post Te. Well, anyway tiguwang na ko, 23 anyos na intawon ko.

Mao pud bitaw ni nga magtakuban lagi kono ning manghimuay ug katalagman.

Watch you step mang kaha lagi kay slippery floor man. :D

Basin 14 pay imong edad sa dihang nagkaila mo, Bay Tigs, bwahaha. ;D

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« Reply #155 on: July 24, 2010, 10:51:48 PM »
sus wa jud q nasayop!  daghan q mga friend frm dauis nga nasuki na nia.ma nlang kuno pang bawn...tsk tsk

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« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2010, 02:34:29 AM »
mao bitaw wa ko magpare gaw hahaha. muzta!


pagkalisud ang kinabuhi sa mga pari labi na ug gwapuhun kay daghang
mga tsikas nga magpabirig birig, inig simba pagka domingo adtu jud sila
mopahaluna sa unahan para mapansin ni priest.

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« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2010, 08:32:01 AM »
sus wa jud q nasayop!  daghan q mga friend frm dauis nga nasuki na nia.ma nlang kuno pang bawn...tsk tsk

Hala, active pa diay kaayo?  Di ba reformed na kuno? :o

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« Reply #158 on: July 26, 2010, 01:16:19 AM »
sa pag tuo cguro nato nga nausab na. sa ingon nato nagpalayo na xa sa US para mag bag o. pru d ta ka siguro sa iya mind kai once na GAy always jud na xa GAY.. karun tua na xa sa calape kinsa pd nasayod nga wa xa nag kalat didto?hinuon naa rman cguro sa tagb. iya mga suki. labi na ssa  dauis nga dugay xa didto. mas daghan jud xa suki mga batan on. matinga nlang q gaybiing daku mag parking man c father sa BQ sakay sa iya Vitara car...murag nag atang ug laki muduol niya...ug na motor pa iya gsakyan mura xa habal2x naghuwat ug pasahiro...tsk tsk c FR. jud badlungon...

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« Reply #159 on: July 26, 2010, 08:36:21 AM »
matinga nlang q gaybiing daku mag parking man c father sa BQ sakay sa iya Vitara car...murag nag atang ug laki muduol niya...ug na motor pa iya gsakyan mura xa habal2x naghuwat ug pasahiro...tsk tsk c FR. jud badlungon...

Basin naghuwat sa iyang midnight snacks...  :-\

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