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MANILA, Philippines (2nd UPDATE) - The Chinese embassy in the Philippines on Friday condemned the draping of the Philippine national flag on the coffin of slain hostage-taker Rolando Mendoza.

In a statement, the Chinese embassy said it condemns the brutality of the criminal and "expresses its strong indignation over this irritating act."

"The person who deserves a national flag at funeral should be someone of heroism, decency and integrity, not someone who inflicts atrocity on innocent lives. This is nothing but a smear on the dignity of the Philippine national flag," the embassy said

Flag removed; Rolando's kin ask: Do they want to remove his clothes, too?

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wa man hinoon ta kahibawo kun ang pamilya ra ba sa hostage-taker ang nagbuot-buot ug drape ug flag sa iyang casket o kun officially sanctioned ba to sa atong police department, pero naay labot ang china ani, sorry, bai kan-ogong.

all countries with whom we have diplomatic relations can issue their official stand and statements through their embassies.  china did just that.

sa una bitaw, sa case ni flor contemplacion sa singapore (take note nga usa ra siya nga namatay sa bitay, after a court trial), ningprotesta ug nihangyo for clemency baya pod ang atong government.  naa tay labot.  kini pa kahang chinese nga pito ang ilang nangamatay, wa pa gyoy trial?  this means china cannot stomach that a hostage-taker who killed its citizens is made a dead hero as symbolized by a draped flag over his casket.     

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nalooy lang ko ani pulis kay  bi medaled ni sya one of the most outstanding policeman unya na tangtang ni sya sa pag ka pulis tungod sa command responsibilities sa iya upat ka tawo nga nag extortion unya datu man kaayo ang pamilya kadtong studyante nga ilang gitira wa silay dag anan sa ombudsman kay mas impluwensya kaayo ang pamilya mao nga nag wala si Mendoza .dili man gyud sya ang na ngotong ang iya man tawo tungod sa command responsibility nadamay lang sya.mo retire na gud unta ni sya sa Enero pero saon ta man wala sya swerte.

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mao ba?  pwerteng luoya gyod tuod kun mao.  i believe your story.  it must be true, otherwise it won't come out.

mahitabo gyod tuod ni.  kaluoy lang sa way swerte.  command responsibility tuod, pero nganong sa iyaha ra man kutob?  command responsibility goes all the way up.  galing ug siya ang gitudlo sa iyang mga sakop nga sad-an, nagbasin-basin nga mahimong bug-at ilang defense kun apilon siya nga ranking officer.  kaso, mora hinoon siyag gihimo nga sacrificial lamb.  to save the name of the police, some heads have to roll.

pagkapait istoryaha.  what a way to end his career, and his life.

 

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As reported in many stories, Rolando Mendoza was once awarded as one of Top 10 Most Outstanding Policemen in the Philippines.

I may be wrong but I have a strong feeling that Mendoza was innocent of the extortion charges. He was just a victim of the legal doctrine of "command responsibility." How does this apply to other cases? For instance, you own a taxi and you hire a taxi driver, and the taxi driver later commits reckless driving resulting to homicide, the taxi owner, though he is not involved in the accident nor has he induced the driver to drive recklessly, still has a civil liability over a person's death. Again, we go back to the doctrine of command responsibility.

Mendoza was about to retire in 6 months. He's been serving in the PNP for more than 30 years. Imagine the kind of anguish and frustration that he must have terribly felt when the Ombudsman dismissed him and not only ordered him out of the PNP ranks but also forfeited all his retirement benefits (probably more than 1 million pesos) and other government privileges, including non-employment in any government office in the future. All because his men committed that extortion activity, as charged? You may be the chief of police, but in a place like Manila, you cannot follow every footstep of your police officers. They can do things without your knowledge, and they can lie to their PNP superiors. But the Ombudsman was too harsh in dealing with Mendoza, but very soft and merciful with certain Malacanang scalawags.

Wow, congrats to the Ombudsman! Very quick on investigating and pronouncing judgments on small fish. How about those monsters clothed with honorable nametags who stole billions of pesos from Philippine government coffers? Why is the Ombudsman not doing anything against their evil deeds? Need to mention the fertilizer scam, the ZTE Broadband Deal scam, the over rice importation scam, etc., etc? Where is the Ombudsman?

Justice for Rolando Mendoza! Justice for the slain Hong Kong nationals!

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ang justice sa Pilipinas para lang sa naa kwarta kay pwede nila paliton ang judge ug ang ombudsman.command responsibility lang ang iya. how many billons pesos kinarakot sa mga bata ni GMA  ang ombudsman buta bungol . bisan kinsa man siguro sa sitwasyon ni Mendoza ma frustrated.sa Euro General lang nakalimtan na  syempre pag retire nya makakuha sya retirement ug pension nya for life.di man gud patas ang justice sa ato para lang sa naa kwarta.
who is the ombudsman of the OMBUDSMAN?any body knows?

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who is the ombudsman of the OMBUDSMAN?any body knows?

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he was awarded as top policeman in 1986 could be during the start of the cory presidency. that was more than 20  years ago and everything could have changed. we don't the real story behind but it was said that his group has been tagged as notorious in hulidap. it so happened that they met their match in the person of that chef whose last name was kalaw i believe.

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China should read this one;

Something to think about: Filipino and Chinese tourist
The known facts are these:

On August 19, 2005, Emmanuel "Bong" Madrigal, a Manila-based Filipino
executive of the multinational Shell, was visiting Beijing on vacation with
his wife Vivian, his daugher Regina Mia, and two younger daughters. That
day, they rode a tourist bus to Tiananmen Square, the heart of the capitol.

Upon arriving at the square, Emmanuel Madrigal was the first to descend
from the bus, followed by Vivian and Regina Mia. A Chinese man wielding a
scythe--in some reports it was described as a sword--suddenly appeared out
of nowhere and hacked Emmanuel across his torso. He died on the spot. The
man also attacked and seriously wounded Vivian. He then slashed at and
killed Regina Mia. By this time, bystanders were trying to subdue the man,
and Vivian shouted to her two other daughters to get away and save
themselves. Somehow the girls made their way back to the hotel. Vivian was
brought to a Beijing hospital, where she died several days later of her
injuries.

An Associated Press report still circulating on the internet states that
the killer was Wang Gongzuo, 25, a farmer from eastern China's Jiangsu
province. He was sentenced to death for the murder of the Madrigals and
executed a few weeks later, in September. The AP report states: 'Wang's
motive for killing the two is unclear. After the incident occurred the
Beijing Morning Post reported that he had wanted to 'affect society using
extreme actions,' but didn't elaborate."

Reflect on the parallels. A family of vacationers on a tourist bus: the
Leungs and the Madrigals. A killer out to "affect society using extreme
actions": Mendoza and Wang. A massacre in a public place of symbolic
significance: The Quirino grandstand, where the presidential inauguration
had been held just weeks before, and site of the civil society protests
against the Marcos regime; and Tiananmen Square, since ancient times the
symbol of the centralized power of the Chinese state, and site of the 1991
civil protests against the government.

In both incidents, the state failed miserably in protecting innocent
tourists.

And there the parallels end.

President Aquino has apologized to the families of Mendoza’s victims and
conveyed his sorrow to the people of Hongkong, Chief Executive Donald
Tsang, and Ambassador Lin Jian Chao. The Philippine National Police
acknowledge that they botched matters beyond comprehension. Philippine
legislators, ahead of their Hongkong counterparts, called for a full
investigation. Philippine media organizations are looking to their own
culpability in the affair. And masses of ordinary Filipinos, on TV, radio,
print, and the Internet, are expressing collective horror, remorse and pity
over the terrible fate of the innocent tourists, and bow their heads in
shame before the Hong Kong people's sorrow and anger.

That is how it should be, that is only right. But.

To this day, five years after it happened, there is no public record of any
Chinese official acknowledging the tourist killings in Tiananmen Square and
apologizing to the Madrigals, much less the Filipino people, for the murder
of Emmanuel, Regina Mia and Vivian. Not a single expression of regret that
the Chinese police failed in their duty to protect the lives of innocent
tourists in the very heart of Beijing, in the symbolic center of a state
that prides itself most of all for its ability to control and contain
disorder. There was a total blackout on the part of the Chinese press, and,
according to another news report, government censors quickly blocked many
internet sites where Chinese users had begun to post comments about the
killing. So we will likely never know what ordinary Chinese citizens had to
say about about the incident. Maybe some of them were actually sorry for
what happened.

The closest thing to expressed regret was in fact the final reported action
of the killer Wang, who waived his right to appeal the sentence of
execution, and got a bullet in the back of his head.

To add to the horror, it would appear that the Arroyo administration was
complicit in the silence. No public statement was ever made by the
Philippine government regarding the incident. Unlike in Hongkong, no flags
were flown at half-mast in Manila, and no three-minute silence was observed
to mark the deaths of the innocent Filipino tourists. No demand has ever
been made by any Filipino official for an apology, and for an accounting.

A full investigation of the Quirino Grandstand killing is ongoing. But what
of that other killing, also in August, five years ago in Tiananmen Square?


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