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Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« on: January 12, 2009, 09:56:09 AM »


This morning, i had the chance to get to the local Land Transportation Office to claim my plastic license card. 

And the sheer number of people standing in front of the office immedaitely told me that there has never really been a clear understanding by LTO officials of who and what fixers are. Or they choose to ignore?

One of the LTO's top priorities is to make the office ISO certified. And they think fixers at theri gates can make it faster?

As soon as i alit my motorcycle, somebody, who i also saw last year and the year before that met me and asked if i was to get a registration. Waht if i was, could he fix it for me?

LTO has said they have rid of the fixers. Then who are these people outside?

Maybe LTO does not know or do not have any idea how to totally box fixers out of their "big" businesses.

Let me propose a system.

When i saw a guard there posted at the steps before the counters, he could be more useful if he screens all documents and people getting in.

He has to get the documents and see if the person bringing it is the same guy reflected on the document. Ant discrepancy, a Special Power of Attorney should be required. That way, a "fixer" could still find a profitable business if he could get an SPA upon wilfull consent of the document owner. At least this way, the owners know he would be consenting to the huge deductions a fixer can put up.

And that way, the guard can rid of his arrogance in shouting at clients who come to the office personally to make sure their money do not get into fixers pockets.

Well, maybe, just maybe, the guard and some LTO people still manages to run these fixers, if they can not rid of this simple problem?

So what is it, Sir Joel? Maloloy-on ra ka kaayo? Oh, come on,

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 05:25:02 PM »
Bitaw, dili ni pag unsa, if we are to rate all our government offices in terms of orderliness in their system, morag kining LTO ang pinaka "disorderly and topsyturvy".  I've been to a lot of LTO offices through out the country by chance, og mao jud na ang akong nakita.  I really wonder why can't they adopt the system of the SSS, Philhealth, Pag-Ibig, and all other offices where people also flock everyday! 
And talking of arrogance also, forgive me to say this, but it's only in the LTO nga ang mga empleyado kusog mag singka singka.  It's only in the LTO where ang mga taxpayers singkahan lang og security guard.
About fixers, well, they exist because the LTO allows them.  Have you heard of fixers in the SSS, Philhealth, or Pag-Ibig?   

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 05:43:23 PM »
dili gud! pero murag wa pa ta mangatawo naa nana diha.

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 05:48:15 PM »
Is it possible to make a valid complain to the civil Service Commission? If they behave like this, they must be reprimanded. They are public servants and must follow the proper guidelines in conducting their duties.

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 06:00:32 PM »
tungod sad ni nato.  kung walay tawo mubayad para sa fixers, walay fixers.  dili man gud ta ganahan mu agi sa processo.  gusto nato dali dali. mao mubayad ta ug mahal, mu perpetuate ang corruption.

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 06:01:07 PM »
disciplina sa mga tawo ang kinahanglan. 

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 06:02:21 PM »
This is a matter of pride, the one with money they buy this privilege, I agree with you Inday Ayessa.

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 09:15:09 PM »
i renewed my driver's license last year for another three-year term and for a change decided to go to the new LTO licensing office located at SM davao to get it done. for a government office, it is strange (albeit in a pleasant way) that they close at 6:30 PM. it thus allows people who observe an 8 to 5 office schedule to swing by after work and get their driver's license renewed or whatever. but i'm getting ahead of my story.

having experienced how a very minor transaction with LTO can take the whole day, i came early to give me enough time to complete my transaction. guess who long it took to get my driver's license renewed? starting from the time when i had to take the mandatory drug testing by providing urine sample and getting a physical examination which included taking my BP and up to the time when i had to sign their logbook to indicated that they have released my license in a plastic card, it took only 20 minutes! repeat, 20 minutes. and i had my new driver's license in a plastic card. it was pretty unbelievable that despite my being a really, really hard-to-please guy, i ended up giving the front desk people a thumbs-up sign. i even told them that i was very impressed.

the downside though is that this kind of service may be available only in selected areas in bigger cities.

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 10:50:44 PM »
bolingitboy, this is a good example of an efficient service.  Other LGUs must benchmark on this.

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 11:17:07 PM »
I think it would be proper to give praise where it is due to the people who gave good services, it will boost their morale.

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 11:33:29 PM »
Mao na atong buhaton sugod karon.

Maghimo ta ug thread to praise our people who did some good jobs. Kay mao na kasagaran ang mahitabo sa atong mga katawhan. They only criticize a lot and i never heard much any appreciation sa mga kaajohan nga ilang nadawat.

Most are people only are very grateful when they receive a gift (material). A simple good action (preha sa testimony ni Bolingiton) is more than a great gift that needs to be appreciated and praise.

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 11:49:18 PM »
(preha sa testimony ni Bolingiton) is more than a great gift that needs to be appreciated and praise.

I love your sense of humor Belle! ;D

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009, 11:56:14 PM »
Manay ikaduha ra ko nimo! hahaha

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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2009, 01:46:45 AM »
i renewed my driver's license last year for another three-year term and for a change decided to go to the new LTO licensing office located at SM davao to get it done. for a government office, it is strange (albeit in a pleasant way) that they close at 6:30 PM. it thus allows people who observe an 8 to 5 office schedule to swing by after work and get their driver's license renewed or whatever. but i'm getting ahead of my story.

having experienced how a very minor transaction with LTO can take the whole day, i came early to give me enough time to complete my transaction. guess who long it took to get my driver's license renewed? starting from the time when i had to take the mandatory drug testing by providing urine sample and getting a physical examination which included taking my BP and up to the time when i had to sign their logbook to indicated that they have released my license in a plastic card, it took only 20 minutes! repeat, 20 minutes. and i had my new driver's license in a plastic card. it was pretty unbelievable that despite my being a really, really hard-to-please guy, i ended up giving the front desk people a thumbs-up sign. i even told them that i was very impressed.

the downside though is that this kind of service may be available only in selected areas in bigger cities.

bolingitboy, this is really amazing!  there is hope afterall!  maybe we should encourage them some more by sending a thank you note or something.  dire bitaw sa among local hospital, naay notes gi post sa bulletin board from patients who appreciated their services. 

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2009, 03:23:22 AM »
I'm really sending  them something...they deserved it.


GOOD JOB LTO!

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 09:13:15 AM »
Mao na atong buhaton sugod karon.

Maghimo ta ug thread to praise our people who did some good jobs. Kay mao na kasagaran ang mahitabo sa atong mga katawhan. They only criticize a lot and i never heard much any appreciation sa mga kaajohan nga ilang nadawat.

Most are people only are very grateful when they receive a gift (material). A simple good action (preha sa testimony ni Bolingiton) is more than a great gift that needs to be appreciated and praise.

good idea mdb. actually, i tried to search for the letter of a negrense haciendero to the editors of Philippine Daily Inquirer. the sender is a scion of the old rich and mighty of negros occidental. the letter was about his appeal to other members of the family who are now residing in the US to distribute their hacienda to the tillers/tenants of their plantation. hope to find the letter soon para maipost ko. kinda pa busy pa though.

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Re: Is fixing at LTO really indespensable?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2009, 01:27:08 AM »
in LTO cebu city,  you can have your new plastic card driver's license in less than a day. take note, less than a day. a friend of mine showed it to me a week ago. that's sounds amazing since it took me several months to get mine some years ago, it took me 3 days to get a temporary license and 10 months to get my plastic card not counting the several days of going back and forth to LTO to do some followup.

LTO renewal center in cebu which is located at SM City can process your renewal in less than 20 minutes or so depending on how many pending cases your license had the previous 3 years. that's how fast they can process the renewals of the licenses.

LTO Tagbilaran Chief Joel "Tata" Maloloy-on is a good friend of mine. we've known each other since his days at LTO cebu city and while he's still studying Law at UV. he's a good person and I can attest that. with regards to fixers, they can't easily be ignored because no matter what the concern agency is doing, they keep on coming. all gov't agencies not just LTO are aware about this and that's what their top priorities for now. the only thing that they wanted to ask from the public is to stop negotiating and doing business with these people. even if they approached you, all you need to do is ignore them. without customers, these fixers will just die a natural death and will go away unnoticed. who made them? it's the public who patronized their services. in cebu, fixers are slowly going away since the people are now starting to ignore them. other thing is to pay online or through bank. some government agencies are now accepting payments online or through banks. one particular example is NSO. paying online or through bank will always keep you away from fixers.

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 05:20:15 PM »
bnc, did you read my previous post? in SM-davao LTO licensing office, it only took 20 minutes to get my driver's license renewed in a plastic card! you should try it to believe it.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 02:49:19 AM »
bnc, did you read my previous post? in SM-davao LTO licensing office, it only took 20 minutes to get my driver's license renewed in a plastic card! you should try it to believe it.
i think i didn't disagree with what you said. i even supported it with what i know. you should also read my post.

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 09:37:16 AM »
don't know how to drive pero na koy license.

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2009, 10:25:00 PM »
bnc, my fault. i guess i missed that part where you wrote about how fast the license renewel center at SM city.

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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2009, 11:00:23 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2009, 01:09:23 PM »
lami siguro paminawon magtubag ang mga cool nga si bolingitboy ug bnc. LOL

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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2009, 02:05:28 PM »
lami siguro paminawon magtubag ang mga cool nga si bolingitboy ug bnc. LOL

btaw calle. i like their behavior.real gentlemen! kabalo sila mo humble down.

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2009, 02:18:45 PM »
unsa man ni nato pagpabugno lumine?

bitaw, keep your cool guys! it's hhhmmmm cool! LOL

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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2009, 10:54:12 PM »
unsa man ni nato pagpabugno lumine?

bitaw, keep your cool guys! it's hhhmmmm cool! LOL

(chatto for gov, conching for v-gov mga pips)

ikaw jud,cals!hehe! maau na lang that they are cool people like you, o di ba?

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2009, 11:47:16 AM »
ikaw jud,cals!hehe! maau na lang that they are cool people like you, o di ba?

outlet tawon nis mga kaguol ug mga kasakit nako ang tb. di pwede mag-init-init ug ulo.

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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2009, 03:34:16 PM »
LTO Tagbilaran Chief Joel "Tata" Maloloy-on is a good friend of mine. we've known each other since his days at LTO cebu city and while he's still studying Law at UV. he's a good person and I can attest that. with regards to fixers, they can't easily be ignored because no matter what the concern agency is doing, they keep on coming. all gov't agencies not just LTO are aware about this and that's what their top priorities for now. the only thing that they wanted to ask from the public is to stop negotiating and doing business with these people. even if they approached you, all you need to do is ignore them. without customers, these fixers will just die a natural death and will go away unnoticed. who made them? it's the public who patronized their services. in cebu, fixers are slowly going away since the people are now starting to ignore them. other thing is to pay online or through bank. some government agencies are now accepting payments online or through banks. one particular example is NSO. paying online or through bank will always keep you away from fixers

precisely i wish the LTO could do a think like an SPA for people so the fixers can still have their day. Sans an SPA, the fixers' papers should not be entertained. That way, lawyers also get tgheir share while car owners or drivers (yes there are) who ask fixers to do "their thing" is finally given the right treatment. Of course they can pay and LTOP can have a heavenly reason to refuse fixers without the right papers.   

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2009, 08:48:32 PM »
I renewed my license sa LTO Jagna kay nagstambay ko didto sauna
im not sure exactly unsa to kadali basta wla ra 1 hour. Davao I know
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2009, 10:29:44 PM »
In Davao, they provided washing areas for various vehicles entering the city. Kinahanglan nga limpyo jod ang mga ligid sa mga sakyanan nga mosulod sa syudad.

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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2009, 12:04:22 AM »
fixers will always dwell in any agency whether private or public. some even thrive in law offices hunting down potential victims specially those who doesn't know the wheeling and dealing on how SPA's, affidavits, certifications and other legal documents that needs notarization. so the only way to get rid of these fixers is not to deal with them.

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