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« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2007, 02:24:27 AM »
na hala, kanus a man na nato sugdan?

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« Reply #101 on: October 05, 2007, 02:30:50 AM »
Tinuod jud na nga over-populated na ta sa Pinas, perting daghanang tawo & dili kaigo ang trabaho... tsk! tsk! tsk! Julai, magnegosyo na lang ta ug condoms, contraceptive pills, etc.,

This business plan will not of course functions in our country, during my days..........we have that Family planning centers  which my friends are working - distributing free pills, condoms and having some Fam.planning seminars in urban areas.  The people/couples listened, accepting the presents not applying and using those because our Churches/Holy Pope are against of this....and this is also sad to say that religion is not always the answer of finding a solution.  Even here  in some Europian countries (eastern part -100% religious)....also over populated, no jobs and only prayer is their hopes and they all settled in Germany or some better/rich places such as GB, and Scandinavian countries too.   Too tired from work and  will say:  "Oh.......my God! - the answer from the western folks....God will not help you!

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« Reply #102 on: October 05, 2007, 04:02:14 AM »
This business plan will not of course functions in our country, during my days..........we have that Family planning centers  which my friends are working - distributing free pills, condoms and having some Fam.planning seminars in urban areas.  The people/couples listened, accepting the presents not applying and using those because our Churches/Holy Pope are against of this....and this is also sad to say that religion is not always the answer of finding a solution.  Even here  in some Europian countries (eastern part -100% religious)....also over populated, no jobs and only prayer is their hopes and they all settled in Germany or some better/rich places such as GB, and Scandinavian countries too.   Too tired from work and  will say:  "Oh.......my God! - the answer from the western folks....God will not help you!




I agree with you Bams...

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« Reply #103 on: October 05, 2007, 06:29:57 AM »
This business plan will not of course functions in our country, during my days..........we have that Family planning centers  which my friends are working - distributing free pills, condoms and having some Fam.planning seminars in urban areas.  The people/couples listened, accepting the presents not applying and using those because our Churches/Holy Pope are against of this....and this is also sad to say that religion is not always the answer of finding a solution.  Even here  in some Europian countries (eastern part -100% religious)....also over populated, no jobs and only prayer is their hopes and they all settled in Germany or some better/rich places such as GB, and Scandinavian countries too.   Too tired from work and  will say:  "Oh.......my God! - the answer from the western folks....God will not help you!

Bams..dire ang mga tawo kasagaran mao ray iadto church kon pasko, may burial og may kasal.


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« Reply #104 on: October 05, 2007, 06:41:58 AM »
Hi Macky,

You misinterpret the Sex education in Europe,  Doy... they are not like dogs that just in every corner of the street magtapot na gjod.  You might heard about "PARTNER  SWAPPING"         ..there are some establishments here to this kind of free sex -exchanging partners or a group sex.  This is mostly  run from those private persons who are also interested to this and more sexually  active.  But this is not every ones interest.  I think, if we have it here pastilan! BIBO GJOD ang mga boys!  But.....those couples who are involved to this actions -they possesses the tolerance of their relationship otherwise it will never functions.  JEALOUSY is out of place.!!!

In some Europian rich countries, counting Germany, Sweden, Norway, Italy, Switzerland and some more others, the government has this program to support Families to raise more children otherwise the generations are almost to be vanished.........we are aware of this, but.....life here is not like licking icy sugar in an early morning - we must have to work in order to exist and our bills to be paid is  only 99% higher  than in our country. We got no maids, we must have to pay a babysitter and that is not cheap, no Lola's. aunts to take care of the kids while we are at work to support a bit our relatives left behind. And we are  not doing love making for the purpose of getting 12 kids as what our countrymen doing.  We are raising a Family in which we could say........it is enough and life would be great enough too.



Tinood ni giingon ni bambi...bahin sa sex. Dili ni sila morag mga iro nga bisan asa magtakod. ha..ha..

hasta sab sa swapping partners. Mga educated ang mga mangapil. grabe sila no? wa gyod ay selosay. Di nako kaya na.

bahin sa mga bata:
sa Norway kay ang manganak didto morag tagaan deretso ug mga 30,000 NOK (itimes na nimo ug 8 sa pesos.) inig gawas sa bata. malipay sila tinood kon dunay manganak. ibutang permi sa newspaper ang kada bata nga matawo. Kon mabuntis ka dire ug swedish samtang nagtourist ka..di kana paulion as gobyerno. tagaan kana deretso ug permit to stay..tagaan ka apartment ug allowance para mabuhi ka.




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« Reply #105 on: October 05, 2007, 06:50:50 AM »
Tinood ni giingon ni bambi...bahin sa sex. Dili ni sila morag mga iro nga bisan asa magtakod. ha..ha..

hasta sab sa swapping partners. Mga educated ang mga mangapil. grabe sila no? wa gyod ay selosay. Di nako kaya na.

bahin sa mga bata:
sa Norway kay ang manganak didto morag tagaan deretso ug mga 30,000 NOK (itimes na nimo ug 8 sa pesos.) inig gawas sa bata. malipay sila tinood kon dunay manganak. ibutang permi sa newspaper ang kada bata nga matawo. Kon mabuntis ka dire ug swedish samtang nagtourist ka..di kana paulion as gobyerno. tagaan kana deretso ug permit to stay..tagaan ka apartment ug allowance para mabuhi ka.


Asianfairy, I think its 50,000 NOK. Inig ka buntis pa lang dayun, deposituhan na sa goberno ug kuarta. Nice pud diay sa Sweden no? Kay tagaan man diay ug permit to stay, automatic diay.

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« Reply #106 on: October 05, 2007, 06:59:42 AM »
o kay kadtong 30,000 sa una pato nako nahibaw-an. sus kanang 50,000 NOK mga 450,000 pesos na. kon duha imo anak naa nakay hapit one million pesos...lain panang ihatag kada bulan?

uy matog nako..sunod napod. kram ug godnatt day Ginger....

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« Reply #107 on: October 05, 2007, 07:02:47 AM »
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« Reply #108 on: October 05, 2007, 07:04:20 AM »

Asian, godnatta!

Swakee ari dire. hehehe

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« Reply #109 on: October 05, 2007, 08:45:51 PM »
Nindot bitaw sa sweden ili kaayo strikto, dili pareha diri nga lisud lisuron pa ta maayo.

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« Reply #110 on: October 06, 2007, 05:53:58 PM »
Sa Philippines during sa time pa ni Rizal kung daghan ka ug anak may premyo pod ka galing sa gobyerno, kay during that time  rich pa ang Phil. Pero karon pordoy na unya nag dugang man hinuon ug ka-daghan ang population sa Phil pag start sa Sex Education.

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« Reply #111 on: October 08, 2007, 10:26:54 PM »
Tinuod jud na nga over-populated na ta sa Pinas, perting daghanang tawo & dili kaigo ang trabaho... tsk! tsk! tsk! Julai, magnegosyo na lang ta ug condoms, contraceptive pills, etc.,

Hi Ate suwakks, glad to hear from you ate..
hmmmm pwede pod ate magnegosyo ta pero murag di ko magsilbi ani ky manuyo unja si mama na perte laba to ka religious..ikaw nlang, unya mo support rako nimo..heheheh.waman gani mosugot si Mader na mag contraceptive akong bro ug ijang misis..kay gusto nija daghan ug apo..ahheheheh

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« Reply #112 on: October 08, 2007, 10:43:53 PM »
Swaks, if ever i get a chance to visit LA one day, I knew people there who spread condoms on the street...

I am an advocate for healthy lifestyle, maybe i could one day ask there help...

i don't have their number right now but i know how to get to his office...


Mike isn't it a good action???

where can we give the condoms if ever i could get bunch of it???

that would be my project soon...

real soon...

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« Reply #113 on: October 09, 2007, 12:00:28 AM »
What kind of condom, Male or Female?

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« Reply #114 on: October 09, 2007, 12:01:47 AM »
naay female????

male raman daghan diri...

sus lagi ang atong mga lalaki di man mag putos kay kuno way lami...

bali bitaw ois...

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« Reply #115 on: October 09, 2007, 03:16:31 AM »
Well if contraceptives can't prevent population growth, perhaps cybersex can. Internet pornography is not bad at all.

To all housewives, if your husband spends most of their time on the internet, praise them. You are helping our country. No kidding, I am serious. Over population destroys our economy and the environment; our resources and space are limited.

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« Reply #116 on: October 09, 2007, 03:20:30 AM »
Bisan kun against ang simabahan, ang couple nalang ang mohuna huna kung unsaon nila pag kontrol ang ilang kaugalingon aron dili na modaghan pa ang ilang mga anak kung wala silay ika-afford sa pagbuhi or paghatag ug maayong kaugmaon.

Kay kung modaghan ang anak unya walay ikahatag ug maayong kaugmaon, dili man matabang ug tabang sa simbahan.

Kung dili pwede contraceptives, calendar or control sa kaugalingon.

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« Reply #117 on: October 09, 2007, 03:21:41 AM »
oops, mura man wala matunong sa topic akong post, sorry para diay unta ni didto sa usa ka thread ;D

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« Reply #118 on: October 09, 2007, 03:25:00 AM »
Well if contraceptives can't prevent population growth, perhaps cybersex can. Internet pornography is not bad at all.

To all housewives, if your husband spends most of their time on the internet, praise them. You are helping our country. No kidding, I am serious. Over population destroys our economy and the environment; our resources and space are limited.

There is one option, Mr. Ferniz. The reclamation of the Philippine territory of Sabah, which is illegally controlled by Malaysia at the moment. Sabah has vast amounts of raw natural resources and land area that is the size of Mindanao...

Its unification with the Philippines would ease many of our problems.

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« Reply #119 on: October 09, 2007, 03:26:14 AM »
I could assume libido is one of God's way to test humans to be responsible and ethical.

However, my above suggestion is a desperate solution to a serious problem our country / world is facing.

This is a sort of "march into hell for a heavenly cause".

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« Reply #120 on: October 09, 2007, 03:40:25 AM »
There is one option, Mr. Ferniz. The reclamation of the Philippine territory of Sabah, which is illegally controlled by Malaysia at the moment. Sabah has vast amounts of raw natural resources and land area that is the size of Mindanao...
Its unification with the Philippines would ease many of our problems.

Good idea Bran. If China was able to acquire back Hong-kong and Taiwan from the hands of the British, then why can't we.

I remembered when I was a little kid that one of my uncle, out of deperation, ventured for a back-door entry vide Sabah to Malaysia. He was caught by a Malaysian cost guard inside Sabah waters and was given a riffle but on the back that left him unconcious.

On learning about the history of Sabah during my high school days, I was so outraged. How dare these people prosecuted us in our own land!

I even got more outraged when just recently, I got one of Emirates Airlines Travel Book, where Sabah is featured as one of the Top Tourist attraction in Malaysia and Mount Kinabalu was dubed as the best mountaineering site. While in the same book, not even an Ad of a Philippine resort was mentioned.

With this, one can ask "where are our leaders".

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« Reply #121 on: October 09, 2007, 06:41:56 AM »
Asian, godnatta!

Swakee ari dire. hehehe
Sige, pangita-i nya ko ug koskosonon diha Ger...

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« Reply #123 on: October 10, 2007, 11:04:04 AM »
Ash mabanggi man pod atong li-og anih!!!

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« Reply #124 on: October 10, 2007, 12:18:31 PM »
unsa may koskoson swak.
kasilyas gud... kay mao man na'y akong specialty... i am the bathroom queen... hehehehehe...

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« Reply #125 on: October 10, 2007, 03:02:56 PM »
kasilyas gud... kay mao man na'y akong specialty... i am the bathroom queen... hehehehehe...
Bitaw Swakee..magkita gyod ta puhon kay molaag raba gayod ko diha next year.. naa man ako sister diha.

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« Reply #126 on: October 10, 2007, 03:19:39 PM »
Good idea Bran. If China was able to acquire back Hong-kong and Taiwan from the hands of the British, then why can't we.

I remembered when I was a little kid that one of my uncle, out of deperation, ventured for a back-door entry vide Sabah to Malaysia. He was caught by a Malaysian cost guard inside Sabah waters and was given a riffle but on the back that left him unconcious.

On learning about the history of Sabah during my high school days, I was so outraged. How dare these people prosecuted us in our own land!

I even got more outraged when just recently, I got one of Emirates Airlines Travel Book, where Sabah is featured as one of the Top Tourist attraction in Malaysia and Mount Kinabalu was dubed as the best mountaineering site. While in the same book, not even an Ad of a Philippine resort was mentioned.

With this, one can ask "where are our leaders".

I absolutely agree, Mr. Ferniz.

The only answer to this is "Docile government". During the 1960s, when the Philippines was a regional power, with advanced military weaponry (we were sporting advanced American hardware: F-5IIs, F-8s, C-4 strategic carpet bombers, then-advanced destroyers, cruisers and a fleet of support destroyers and patrol ships). During the British proclamation of creating a 'Malaya' state, the nation of Indonesia, which was then led by Sukarno, declared the illegality of the act. He mentioned historical precedent that northern Borneo was historically under the control of the Java-based Malays and hence the current state of Sarawak (eastern malaysia) should be reunited with Indonesia to form what was then termed by the Indonesian people as "Indoneesiya Jaya" (Greater Indonesia). The Indonesian high command also claimed that the state of Sabah, was part of the Sulu Empire for centuries (as earned in war when the Sulu Sultan aided the Sultan of Brunei in a war against the Dayas, and as payment for his brother's support, gave Sabah to the Sulu Sultan). Sukarno and his government decried that since Sabah was historically part of the SULU Empire, and since the Sulu Sultanate was under political and military control --and an integral part of the Philippines, it would make sense that all territories that were part of Sulu--should, by right of territorial sovereignty, be integrated with the Philippines as well.

What did we do after Malaya was created? Absolutely nothing.

Sukarno and the Indonesian government supported a proxy war with the state of Malaya and initiated the 'Konfrontasi', which was when indonesian paramilitary units attacked the state of Malaysia in an attempt to 'CRUSH' Malaysia and integrate it with Indonesia. This would have been the perfect time for the Philippines (then the strongest military power in south east asia---having air, land and naval superiority over malaysia, thailand and indonesia; and the fact that we were a strategic ally of the United States). An attack on the philippines would have been considered as an attck on the United States---and the Yankees would have supported us on our campaign.

Manila and our politicians should have supported Sukarno...and dividied Malaysia. I still cannot understand why our politicians did not do this! We were a regional power! Even indonesia would have been defeated by our armed forces at the time, and we were too 'scared' to instigate hostilities for fear of international protest. Now look at the state of the philippines. We have terrorist in the south that are entering the country via Sabah. If we reclaimed sabah decades ago like what we shoudve done, the entire region would have been assimilated and Mindanao and Sabah---completely Filipinized. There wouldnt be any reactionary forces--coming from sabah to manila and the philippines..as what we have at present.

In fact, the massive natural resources of sabah would have fueled our country to further growth.

Who knows, we could've even went to war with Indonesia and taken over the entire Borneon island. As indonesia, at the time, was an ant in comparison to the mighty Armed Forces of the Philippines (which had a force of over 300,000...not including paramilitary units)...as the AFP had recently obliterated/crushed the Huk rebellion. A proof our our military might....

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« Reply #127 on: October 11, 2007, 12:25:03 AM »
Bitaw Swakee..magkita gyod ta puhon kay molaag raba gayod ko diha next year.. naa man ako sister diha.

mag swimming unya ta ha:-))


Sige AsianFairy, hapita intawon ko dere ha? do you snorkel? by the way, dia ko's Big Island... i hope to see you here in the isla adventures...

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« Reply #128 on: October 11, 2007, 07:56:46 AM »
Maayo ni si swakee kay laag-laag ra ang trabaho. Nindot jud kung maka-asawa kaug foreigner very stable.

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« Reply #129 on: October 12, 2007, 06:54:55 AM »
Maayo ni si swakee kay laag-laag ra ang trabaho. Nindot jud kung maka-asawa kaug foreigner very stable.
John, wrong mistake ka diha... wa intawon koy panahon mag-laag laag... i'm a workoholic (pero wa'y agi)... pero nia'y member dere nga i know sige lang ug tour2x... & that wud be... "Gagiers"... kana kay sige lang na'g camping sa ilang mobile home... nalibot na na niya nang Canada... ryt Gags?

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Re: Sweden's Comments on Overseas Filipino Workers
« Reply #130 on: October 13, 2007, 02:14:38 PM »
nindota man diay ni si gagiers kay sige lang ug camping camping or suroy suroy. 

dili baya pod tanan nakapangasawa ug foreigner hayahay john.  daghan ko nailhan dire sa north carolina na nakapangasawa ug foreigner looy tawn (wa pa jud makapauli or makabisita sa pinas sukad sila naabot dire, mga 10 to 20 years na sila ha).  naa pa man gani dire na 15 yrs na wa man gani makadrive or wa man gani sakyanan na iyaha kay igo igo ra sila.
sa pagkatinood sa makatunong lang na john.  kita pa ka sa makaswerte lang.

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Re: Sweden's Comments on Overseas Filipino Workers
« Reply #131 on: October 13, 2007, 09:19:26 PM »
Maayo ni si swakee kay laag-laag ra ang trabaho. Nindot jud kung maka-asawa kaug foreigner very stable.


Hi John,
Having a foreigner husband does not mean you are having a very stable life and living in luxury...could it be that there are some who are lucky enough to land a rich and generous husband. But....money is not everything and not a good basic for a happy relationship. Money makes the World go round but simple other things  valuable and  unaffordable.
I've been working hard for my money and believe me....it is a joy spending your own money from hardships  own perspiration and it is a great pleasure to think it is sort of reward and satisfies your own ego.

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Re: Sweden's Comments on Overseas Filipino Workers
« Reply #132 on: October 13, 2007, 09:41:12 PM »
nindota man diay ni si gagiers kay sige lang ug camping camping or suroy suroy. 

dili baya pod tanan nakapangasawa ug foreigner hayahay john.  daghan ko nailhan dire sa north carolina na nakapangasawa ug foreigner looy tawn (wa pa jud makapauli or makabisita sa pinas sukad sila naabot dire, mga 10 to 20 years na sila ha).  naa pa man gani dire na 15 yrs na wa man gani makadrive or wa man gani sakyanan na iyaha kay igo igo ra sila.
sa pagkatinood sa makatunong lang na john.  kita pa ka sa makaswerte lang.

Very korek ka Willmerit,

What this "PreciousNpolite" in Expat site elaborated in general pointed all Filipinas as a whole  is a big impertinence!
It took me to wait for 6 yrs after visiting my parents,relatives and friends left behind.  Immediately after a short stay after  acquiring a permanent visa  had landed here a good office job but must have to support my jobless first husband...bought all appiances for a small apartment. Again times lapsed another 6 years for an emergency home visit due to my Papas sudden death after a long time of illness (stroke), thanks God had saved a bit normally it was for driving license planned.
Dili baya sayon.....receiving a telegram, and then arrived two days later unya lungon na imong abtan sa sala! It is hard to remember this happenings....had saved too long but sayang everything was too late. In the period of 12 years 2x home with my own "singgot ug kahago" and i am very proud of this, paying my own driving license, bought an old car for work purposes. Now, i don't care i have no money- as long as i will be home yearly for life is too short and for what money for?

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Re: Sweden's Comments on Overseas Filipino Workers
« Reply #133 on: October 13, 2007, 10:49:08 PM »
Sige AsianFairy, hapita intawon ko dere ha? do you snorkel? by the way, dia ko's Big Island... i hope to see you here in the isla adventures...
day swakee..sore karon pao kabalik dire.
day estorya ra tawon ni ako nga magswimming pero di pako kamao molangoy. ha..ha..

ako sister sigi hisgot anang big island. sure laag gyod mi diha puhon.
ako mga nephews mahilig anang snorkel.



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Re: Sweden's Comments on Overseas Filipino Workers
« Reply #134 on: October 13, 2007, 10:59:32 PM »
Very korek ka Willmerit,

What this "PreciousNpolite" in Expat site elaborated in general pointed all Filipinas as a whole  is a big impertinence!
It took me to wait for 6 yrs after visiting my parents,relatives and friends left behind.  Immediately after a short stay after  acquiring a permanent visa  had landed here a good office job but must have to support my jobless first husband...bought all appiances for a small apartment. Again times lapsed another 6 years for an emergency home visit due to my Papas sudden death after a long time of illness (stroke), thanks God had saved a bit normally it was for driving license planned.
Dili baya sayon.....receiving a telegram, and then arrived two days later unya lungon na imong abtan sa sala! It is hard to remember this happenings....had saved too long but sayang everything was too late. In the period of 12 years 2x home with my own "singgot ug kahago" and i am very proud of this, paying my own driving license, bought an old car for work purposes. Now, i don't care i have no money- as long as i will be home yearly for life is too short and for what money for?

Hi Bambi,

I can only agree. I admire you for being  so hardworking and your patience.
Yes, it feels good to be financially independent from your partner.

Daghan sab mga foreigner di kasabot sa atong culture..

And you are doing the right decision. It is good to have money but money is NOT everything.
There are more valuable things in life than money.
I would prefer too to be financially poor but rich in other things.

And yes, life is short. Anha nata kahunahuna ana kon moabot nata 40 years old.
I started thinking what purpose my life has when I turned 40.

Although I have daily contacts with my parents thru phone, internet..it is nice to be with them in Bohol. I have celebrated 16 christmas without them.

So i will also do my best now to visit Bohol every year if possible.

Take care Bambi and hope we could meet in Bohol.



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Re: Sweden's Comments on Overseas Filipino Workers
« Reply #135 on: October 14, 2007, 12:41:54 AM »
Hello Asianfairy,
Very interesting if we can meet there personally short before Christmas and I hope with some other TB members too. Was even expecting to see Mike there based from our previous posts..but sorry to say, life happenings change too rush our future plans.  I feel his present stand for I've been repeatedly experiencing the same problem 4x since year 2000 and last year, I didn't dare to come over there again for we had just stayed 6 mos after our last visit and then...it was a fight of 4,000 Euro illness (thanks God my sister in London sponsored the biggest portion out of it).I had save but it seems..".mao ni giingon way swerteng madato! "  Even until now, i don't have even " nipa hut" lang sa ato bisan tigols nag tinarbaho Day.  Well, Mama is getting older but not really better enough from all those several attacks. But her presence makes us feel complete and younger forgetting our daily aguroy.
When you will be exactly home? For how long you will stay there?  We will be visiting our supported child from Leyte short after Christmas then and i am expecting that you can share time meeting all TB members on location.  God bless you!


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