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Just two days a go a bayut relative wife who is marreid to a 20 year retired Navy man from Chicago who lives with the couple held the American hostage in a cage for 12 hours with out food and water for half a day.

After being released the American national wnt immediatley to pnp Tagbilarsn to blotter this incident.

He discussed with me that he is planning tp prosecute his capturer.

The residence where this happenend took place just six houses away from Governor of Bohol.

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Bayut as in a homosexual or is there another meaning for this term?

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ah salamat for the clarification. lol

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By; PreciousNpolite

Just two days a go a bayut relative wife who is marreid to a 20 year retired Navy man from Chicago who lives with the couple held the American hostage in a cage for 12 hours with out food and water for half a day.

After being released the American national wnt immediatley to pnp Tagbilarsn to blotter this incident.

He discussed with me that he is planning tp prosecute his capturer.

The residence where this happenend took place just six houses away from Governor of Bohol.

Priscilla, so why did the bayut kidnap the American tourist?

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He wanted to hold him ransom for his money. The bayut is a cousin of the wife to the American who was held for 12 hours inside of a cage.

The term for a civilian to hold a person is known as "Illegal Detention" or "Unlawfull Detention".

Especailly under no specified time limit.

Now on the other hand Lorenzo if a a public officer or police did the same thing itis known as Arbouritory.

Last night i had made arrangements to take a PNP PO3 Torios from the Tagbilaran City Police to go on duty as a plain clothes police and assist me in a follow up at the same residence where such incidence has taken place.

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The wife is a born Boholana taga Mabini. It is the wives cousin who is the bayut. The bayut is causing a lot of danger to the foreigner husband not only locking him up inside of a cage from 8pm untill 8pm and watching him with a sharp big kithchen knife and broken glass peice and being ordered not to move unless permission and nt eing able to eat or sleep.
This is not the only time that this bayut has caused trouble it was about the third time according to the American narional. The first incident had taken place when the bayut got angry at the American because the American had shouted at him to stop hitting stones at little kids and hurting them in the neighberhood and also for entering others homes with out permission.
When the bayut was angry he had grabbed for a kitchen knife and gone after the American threatening him to kill him.

Tonight P02 Mario Terjios had met with me as planned. Instead of ending up at the house of the American we ended up counseling the American at BQ where he still appeared to be emotionally upset about the incident.
He was rescued by the next morning from a passer by who had given him sign language askiing him to notify the police for assistance to rescue him from the cage like enclosed porch with a double gate that stands 8 feet or more.
4 policemen came to rescue the American by 8:10 am in the morning.
The American moved out this week and is presently renting a room in barangay of cogon. His wife had moved to an unknown area and had taken all of his clothes furniture and belongings.
Including his passport. We the police and I were able to convince the American to file charges on Monday and to go down and write further in the blotter about his rescue and about the other attempts of threat that had been made by the bayut to him.
The wife  showwed up claimed she was looking for him and said that they needed money for food that the kids were hungary since they had ended up seperating.
The wife said to her American husband that he should of locked him room and hidden his money bas her cousin had stolen PhP 10.000.00 from the Americans drawwer in his bedroom.
The Bayut was asked to leave countless times but had remained up untill time to steal enough money after locking up the American.
The wife is always out of the house everynight she said and did not know that the bayut had illegally detained her husband.
The two had been argueing for about two hours at Tagbilaran PNP Station before leaving but tghe American was still not fdeeling well enough to leave with his wife untill he blottered the rest of what had been happening that leads up to the last incident.

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corrections 12 hors total 8pm untill 8am.

2nd, he was not able to eat or sleep all night.

3rd, he should of locked up his bedroom so the bayut would not of been able to steal his 10thsnd piso's.

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Thanks for the update, Priscilla. Thanks for being so concerned and caring on our fellow Americans.

Take care over there in Bohol.

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What the in-law did is very wrong. If we want our fellow Filipinos to be treated well in foreign lands, we should also treat our guests here very well.

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Thanks for the report Ms. Precious.  I hope that the Pinay wife of the American  hostage is not the complot of the Bayut/kidnapper.  He must have to answer this illegal action. Is he now arrested?

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First off Happy Weekend to everyone in here. Thank you for the compliments and the concerns raised on this issue.

No he has not been arrested yet. here if you are a victim it is your job to do the police report, fill out the blotter, arrest him yourself and your the one to use your own monies to have him arrested.

Not like back home in America where automatically you have an arrest and yu are free from paper work or going to the courts to press charges.

I wish they would adopt the sytem of the states when it comes to this sort of stuff. You get away with murder here.

Because to file that kind of case against any threats and to obtain a lawyer will run you around 200.000.00 on an average.

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I agree with you PnP. I also wish we will have a jury system

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Another country, different morals, right? It is sometimes sad that our responsible officers to handle this case,  paractising  in a crawling stage.  So, the alleged criminal is still at large.  :(

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How come a b***t overwhelmed the American Navy. Is he more mahinhin than the b***t? Ka kusgan gud nang bayuta , kay maghostage man.

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The Bayut had knife with him and threaten to kill the American.I wish he will report the incident in U.S embassy.Sometimes it's even hard to trust to the local police there very lax and could care less abi kay di bol-anon.

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yea you are right my freind Raquel. Yesterday I had accompaneid him to atty. Magdoaza but on the next day despite my prepared written statement that the atty liked along with the pictures of the detaining area that I had taken.

No lawyer will take the case because the bayut had stolen a lot of his money.

So he was not able to file charges as the fiscals office be able to keep his money and be able to feed himself and his wifes family all at the same time on the little money that he has remaining.

MY column this week deals with why is it that when foreigners are victimized here they must pay for the arrest and pay for the case of such a case in order to get the suspect of the streets.

The charges would have been the first ever to have for a foreigner in Bohol on the charges of being kidnapped.

Illegal detainment is for unlawfull detainment for any person 3 days or more.

The charges according to Atty. Magdoza would have ben for illegal kidnapping.

But if a foreigner would have done it to a Filipino you can met it would have been fron page news by now.

As for the earlier question regarding the bayut over powering the Navu man yes I heard that the bayut is very strong.

So maybe by the next pension the case can be filed.

The American is staying in a rented room near to Marcella and the wife is staying in Tabalong Dauis.





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I am currently trying to come up with plans to be able to introduce to the governor my two most severe Foreigner Victim write up subjects in person to let him hear just how insulting this is by all means that the suspects are still at large and that they have to pay a lot of pesos to have them arrested.

When if this happened in my country the suspect would be arrested on the spot with out paying an atty. to file a case.
And have him arrested.

What an absolute insult and they say to us that foreigners have the highest of protection these days.
It is a joke to me and other foreigners as the crime against foreigners is getting higher.

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The Bayut had knife with him and threaten to kill the American.I wish he will report the incident in U.S embassy.Sometimes it's even hard to trust to the local police there very lax and could care less abi kay di bol-anon.

I do hope that they file charges and report this to the US Embassy.



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Kon ako sa Navy konoton nako sa singit gyud nang bayuta na? Nagsalig kay naay sundang.

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In Pinas, if you are the victim & you want the suspect to be arrested you have to hire a lawyear & all kinds of expenses for the paperworks (you are not qualified to have a public lawyear ang suspect ra, kay mao may gikiha) so ang resulta??? case dismiss! dili na lang magkaso2x kay mahal bayad abogado waaaa faets!!!!

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In Pinas, if you are the victim & you want the suspect to be arrested you have to hire a lawyear & all kinds of expenses for the paperworks (you are not qualified to have a public lawyear ang suspect ra, kay mao may gikiha) so ang resulta??? case dismiss! dili na lang magkaso2x kay mahal bayad abogado waaaa faets!!!!

Swaks, while it may be a reality in the Philippines as you said, may we propose that the victim see a Public Attorney? We have in Biohol an office such as that and i am personally vouching for these good guys who chose to stay unknown in a profession that would definitely be a money racker in this country.

I have had a lot of friends who can also speak the same as regared the kind of lawyers the government lends for those who clearly do not have the money to stand up in court.

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Tama si b***t kay mapa himudsanon ning mga amerikano labina tong mga nagpaka aroningnon nga amerikano kono.

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In Pinas, if you are the victim & you want the suspect to be arrested you have to hire a lawyear & all kinds of expenses for the paperworks (you are not qualified to have a public lawyear ang suspect ra, kay mao may gikiha) so ang resulta??? case dismiss! dili na lang magkaso2x kay mahal bayad abogado waaaa faets!!!!

swaks tinood jud ka mahal kaajo ang bayad labi na ug mahibaw an nga gikan kag gawas or bana nimo foreigner na bantay lang kay tulison sa atubangan jud ka (meaning panguartahan kag maajo)!

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mao jud xa? hahaaayyyy money talks

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Ngano sa amerika dili kwartahay? Nailad lang mo sa mga amerikano nagpaka ulol!

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o mao jud kasagaran panguartahon man ka.  naa bitaw pao dinha man to sa new capitol site (di ko sure ug diha pa ba gihapon) pero mao lagi tan awon man pud ang imong kahimtang ug angay ba ka tabangan ug libre.

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atleast dere sa U.S. if ikaw ang biktima unya pobre ka naa jud justice hmmm let's say 99% hahahaa

sa Pinas... ambot lang

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hehehehe ug daghan ka kuarta sa pinas swaks naa justice ug jamo ka wawart sorry na lang labi na ug ang imong kontra kuartahan, pila ra'y pagpalit oi

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Hahaha suwaji dihag pakaso galig prisohon ka deritso.

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unya sa Pinas ug mapildi sa kaso kay lipot fud ang tirada... ahaha TIKLO kaaa!!!!

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Sa amrika loboton kas mga negro! hahaha! Buak imong igotigot. hahahaha

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Amz, ug mamatay kas cancer or tumor ingnon dayun nga gibarang kay naay kontra... waaaaaaaa!!!

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ngek naunsa naman ni kay naa diay nabuak ang igotigot?  swaks wa man ko kadungog ana lagi

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Amz, ug mamatay kas cancer or tumor ingnon dayun nga gibarang kay naay kontra... waaaaaaaa!!!

mao jud, pasanginlan dajon ag taga-siquijor

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ngek! wrong thread swaks, ayaw palabi sa imong gibati :-[

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ngek! wrong thread swaks, ayaw palabi sa imong gibati :-[
mao man layo na ug gilagpotan ang topic, tua nas america hahahaa

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okay I have a current up date regardiing this topic you know me I am always trying to stay on top of things when itcomes to helping persons who just do not know how the system truly works here.

I have yet to meet up with the Governor he has been in Korea this past week. I am also planning to take my two foreign subjects with different cases to Congressman Chatto's house this coming Monday. We foreigners want to make the message clear to the politicians here weare tiredof being victimized for any crime.

I was able to speak with my publisher Atty. Lim regarding the case and what Atty. Megdoza had told to the American that he is unable to file the case for the American? According to Atty. Lim it is not true, and besides the American Navy man has been robbed of his money.

Atty. Lim is a great atty. and a wonderfull freind to take the case of what is really a human violations case indeed.

Kidnapping, Life threatening, human rights violation, and then lets add the police witnesses who did not arrest the suspect after they had ordered him to release him.

I have more to say about this but I am not going there because I have already informed my publisher and why it was that my story on the happening did not appear on his desk for reveiw.

When Atty. Lim had heard it and seen my text messages he was not happy. He asked me to immediatley get the American in the office as soon as I can this way he can help the retired American Navy man.

Lorenzo and everyone in here giving support for what is the right way to handle this I would like to take the time to say thank you very much for your concerns.

I will do my best to keep you posted asmuch as possible.

I will post here a rough draft of what I had prepared for last weeks write up in the following box.

Again Thanks everyone for your good comments.



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Retired Navy and American National Held in Illegal Detention for 12 Hours
“He was kicking me and shortly after forced me with a knife until he had me locked onto our metal bar enclosed porch terrace where I stayed for 12 hours overnight from 8:O’clock PM until 8; O’clock AM the following morning until the police had been summoned to assist and get me out from feeling like what was similar to being inside of a cage.” Joe explained his ordeal as much as he could and said “I feel so violated, embarrassed and humiliated coming to a place that harps itself as a peaceful place to come and to live and visit and then to have this happen really tends for me to want to think twice that maybe I am better off to fly back home to America!”
In a special interview with the victim Joe Banys 50 years old and retired U.S. A. Navy man of 20 years, from the state of Illinois who is married with a native of Mabini Bohol. Joe  started off discussing his ordeal right away what had taken place last Feb 28th, and said in no way that he want anyone to think he hates the Philippines after what has happened to him because he said he really loves the Philippines as he had been staying here during his days in the Navy.
After being held in illegal detention and also known by another phrase as unlawful detention which are considered a grave act of holding someone without having any good purposes or without any lawful purpose for that long of amount of time that Joe had been in or for any amount time is considered as part of an international law with having to deal with any persons who interfere or threaten the human rights of other persons.

Joe and his wife along with her offspring and also living with what Joe refers to as a very unwanted relative Ivan of his wife were renting and residing at a residence on Calceta St. located four houses past provincials Governor Erico  Aumentado residence in where the 12 hour event occurred.

During a separate interview with Tagbilaran City’s PO3 Mario Judelito J. Torrejos and Joe last Friday PO3 along with this writer of Bohol standard were able to convince Joe to go ahead with plans on filing for charges on the next following Monday morning with Tagbilaran City Police station in were PO3 Torrejos said that he would be the one to help and assist with Joe’s filing.

PO3 Torrejos explained further with Joe that Ivan is in absolute no legal authority to have any hold on him.
PO3 said in his observation stated that he sees Ivan as the root of Joe’s problems that have included threatening, harassing, and can see that it is causing an emotional drain on Joe.

Joe stated that it is not the first time that Ivan has threatened him with a knife it had been about the third time.
Several times Joe has asked Ivan to leave the residences that they have lived in together. But according to Joe he cannot shake him off that easily. When Joe was first locked inside the place he described earlier as Cage like, he remembers the people across the street were laughing while he was shouting for help and they did not get help for Joe.
Joe had seen a passer by early the following morning and motioning by sign language that the passerby will get a hold of the police. And by 8; 10’am four members of the Tagbilaran City police had arrived to order Ivan to immediately release Joe from his caged in ordeal in where he was closely being watched by Ivan who had held a knife on him all night.
Joe was without food and water for long lengths at a time until allowed one time to use the restroom and get one glass of water.

Ivan had been playing the music so loud that it was hard for Joe to get the attention of someone to help him right away.
Joe has since moved out of the residence on Calceta St. and rented a room somewhere in Barangay Cogon and that his wife had moved out to an unknown place with his passport, furniture and other personal belongings.
Late last night Joe’s wife had shown up at the police station where the two had argued for some time about things going on and Joe’s wife reported that ‘Ivan had also stolen around 10.000.00 in pesos from the bedroom of Joe and she had told Joe to keep his room locked up and also told Joe that he was just too trusting to never lock his door.
Joe was able to update his reports in the police blotter before leaving the police station last Friday night, and the final words he told his wife while leaving “I came here to Bohol to relax and rest in peace and silence not that I want all your relatives always coming over to the point that I cannot be comfortable.”





Retired Navy and American National Held in Illegal Detention for 12 Hours
By; PreciousNpolite     (Rough draft.)

“He was kicking me and shortly after forced me with a knife until he had me locked onto our metal bar enclosed porch terrace where I stayed for 12 hours overnight from 8:O’clock PM until 8; O’clock AM the following morning until the police had been summoned to assist and get me out from feeling like what was similar to being inside of a cage.” Joe explained his ordeal as much as he could and said “I feel so violated, embarrassed and humiliated coming to a place that harps itself as a peaceful place to come and to live and visit and then to have this happen really tends for me to want to think twice that maybe I am better off to fly back home to America!”
In a special interview with the victim Joe Banys 50 years old and retired U.S. A. Navy man of 20 years, from the state of Illinois who is married with a native of Mabini Bohol. Joe  started off discussing his ordeal right away what had taken place last Feb 28th, and said in no way that he want anyone to think he hates the Philippines after what has happened to him because he said he really loves the Philippines as he had been staying here during his days in the Navy.
After being held in illegal detention and also known by another phrase as unlawful detention which are considered a grave act of holding someone without having any good purposes or without any lawful purpose for that long of amount of time that Joe had been in or for any amount time is considered as part of an international law with having to deal with any persons who interfere or threaten the human rights of other persons.

Joe and his wife along with her offspring and also living with what Joe refers to as a very unwanted relative Ivan of his wife were renting and residing at a residence on Calceta St. located four houses past provincials Governor Erico  Aumentado residence in where the 12 hour event occurred.

During a separate interview with Tagbilaran City’s PO3 Mario Judelito J. Torrejos and Joe last Friday PO3 along with this writer of Bohol standard were able to convince Joe to go ahead with plans on filing for charges on the next following Monday morning with Tagbilaran City Police station in were PO3 Torrejos said that he would be the one to help and assist with Joe’s filing.

PO3 Torrejos explained further with Joe that Ivan is in absolute no legal authority to have any hold on him.
PO3 said in his observation stated that he sees Ivan as the root of Joe’s problems that have included threatening, harassing, and can see that it is causing an emotional drain on Joe.

Joe stated that it is not the first time that Ivan has threatened him with a knife it had been about the third time.
Several times Joe has asked Ivan to leave the residences that they have lived in together. But according to Joe he cannot shake him off that easily. When Joe was first locked inside the place he described earlier as Cage like, he remembers the people across the street were laughing while he was shouting for help and they did not get help for Joe.
Joe had seen a passer by early the following morning and motioning by sign language that the passerby will get a hold of the police. And by 8; 10’am four members of the Tagbilaran City police had arrived to order Ivan to immediately release Joe from his caged in ordeal in where he was closely being watched by Ivan who had held a knife on him all night.
Joe was without food and water for long lengths at a time until allowed one time to use the restroom and get one glass of water.

Ivan had been playing the music so loud that it was hard for Joe to get the attention of someone to help him right away.
Joe has since moved out of the residence on Calceta St. and rented a room somewhere in Barangay Cogon and that his wife had moved out to an unknown place with his passport, furniture and other personal belongings.
Late last night Joe’s wife had shown up at the police station where the two had argued for some time about things going on and Joe’s wife reported that ‘Ivan had also stolen around 10.000.00 in pesos from the bedroom of Joe and she had told Joe to keep his room locked up and also told Joe that he was just too trusting to never lock his door.
Joe was able to update his reports in the police blotter before leaving the police station last Friday night, and the final words he told his wife while leaving “I came here to Bohol to relax and rest in peace and silence not that I want all your relatives always coming over to the point that I cannot be comfortable.”






 

 


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I just want you guys to know this is the second write up I have done in one month when it comes to foreigners being put into a victim stage.

Last month I had writen about a British Bar owner having  3attempted homicide attmpts intended for him

Two gun shots were fired and lodged into the foreigners bar but the British owner was luckily missed while he was entertaining guest behind his bar.

The third attempt came when an unidentifeid male approached the bar offering money to poison her boss as he had set down the poison and the money in front of his bar employee but instead she refussed to have anything to do with it.

The British national has a Filipina wife and a one year old daughter together with her foreigner husband. The wife and her foreign husband are seperated and on rocky terms.

That case is alreay being handled by a respectfull Atty.here in Bohol.

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These things make me feel bad about being a "boholano"

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Tonight after two days of looking for my Joe the kidnapped suspect I had received a text message that the suspect bayut had gone to the new rented room of the American retired Navy man with his wife and the bayut still continuing to harras the suspect at his residence.

Later after receiving the text message from the American freind living here I ran into Joe who admitted and confirmed the text message of my other freind. When i had asked Joe why he punched his suspect he repleid; "I have to do something since the law will not help us!" "Canyou beleiv the runt then ran to the police staton and blottered that I had beat him up!"

I informed Joe that good help was coming back to Bohol to help him and that he must calm himself down considering what he has been through and continues to go through.

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Busy week indeed! Joe is now being handled in the great care of Atty. Lim and associates at the Trabajo Lim office here in Tagbilaran City.

Joe is being advised to file a case and report it to the US embassy after it is already filed into the court. I have already invited some local media to take a personal interveiw and distributed documents and photos of the detained area in where Joe was locked up for over 12 hours against his will.

I have been guiding my freind on where to go and what to get for preparing his case.

Joe will file his case Monday with the Fiscal. We have given also blotters of all threats and on going harrassment from Joe's family.

I just got done doing a step by step write regarding Human Rights.

We are hoping for the following publications to print the story Bohol Chronicle, Cebu freeman, Cebu Sunstar, Manila Inquirer, The Bohol Standard, and the Manila Bulletin have all showed an interest through their representative in Bohol. and in Manila.

Stay Tuned!

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The story on the violation on an American human rights will be the front story on the page of "The Bohol Standard" in tommorows edition of the paper.

It is a lengthy write up which introduces the victim, talks about him being in the Navy for 20 years and that he also helped the Philippines while in the Navy, he had received several medals, and then i re-enact by nararatting into printed wordswhat had happened to him.
I then go into an aftershock interview with the victim, then I end the write up by saying what he plans to do and plans to accomplish.

www.thebohlstandard.com

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Generally,crime is not gender related.  Everyone can commit a crime irregardless of his or her sexual orientation

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Priscilla, please extend our words of comfort and support to the victim.

Thank you for the updates.



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Thank You also for the support behind Joe.

I will do my best to keep you all posted as I normally do when I am the one to start the topic.

he he he!

Happy Weekend Everyone!

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Kudos to your effort Miss Presciuos in helping Joe. I feel sorry for the local authorities that done nothing to protect Foreigners in our Province.

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Generally,crime is not gender related.  Everyone can commit a crime irregardless of his or her sexual orientation
exactly

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i don't understand. why does the bayut acted like that? maybe the navy man did something to the bayut. hehehehe. am i making stories here? who knows. maybe that is the reason why the american navy can't shake the bayut off from their lives!
he is a navy. trained. had the experience. but a bayut with a knife? oooh-come on!
i believe the story is true that the bayut did held him inside a cage.
but why can't the family of the wife help the american husband?
or the wife herself?
if indeed the bayut stole his ten thousand (huh? poor ba ang american boy na ito? ten thousand lang ang pera niya?) pesos, they can sue him for that.
hmmm... i don't understand. and there are lines that i don't think was true.

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naunsa na man ang bohol tawon oi.

tabang mga b***t.

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di pinagbigyan si b***t kaya naging lalaki

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naunsa na man ang bohol tawon oi.

tabang mga b***t.

the prize of success. traffic jams, high prices, pollution, rape, murders, prostitution, ilad, kuot ug uban pa. :(

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hope you don't mind but i don't agree with your posting above windgate .

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hope you don't mind but i don't agree with your posting above windgate .

ako ra na hunahuna.  kindly enlighten me sir.

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traffic jams, high prices, pollution, rape, murders, prostitution, ilad, kuot ug uban pa do not necessarily come with success.

at any rate, we are not in the kind of "success" that the word typically connotes.

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traffic jams, high prices, pollution, rape, murders, prostitution, ilad, kuot ug uban pa do not necessarily come with success.

at any rate, we are not in the kind of "success" that the word typically connotes.

sounds pessimistic. pero ug moasenso ang usa ka lugar naa jud na sila,di ba? ako ra nang obserbasyon sa mga dagkong lugar nga nanglambo...

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i agree with you, windgate. nganu man ma traffic ang usa ka lugar, tungod kay asenso na ang tao-daghan na cars.
nganu man naa pollution? tungod kay asenso na ang lugar, naa na mga companies, more cars (nga naka pa traffic)
nganu man naa rape?
kay maka pa BELO naman ang mga girls (...ug boys? hehehe) mao misamot ka gwapa ug ka sexy...mao naay makahuna huna ug rape
nganu man naa murder?
tungod siguro kay nasina sa success sa uban, ila i-murder.
or because successful na, ila ilugan ug wealth---then i-murder.
nganu man naa prostitution?
kay sauna, if dili pa asenso---pwede ra pang kape ang ibayad so daghan di musolod sa prostitution- mamaligya nalang ug saging.
pero kay asenso naman, 500peysos and up naman ang bayad,walay labot sa tip, mao midaghan prostituion. hehehehe... wala lang.

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hehehe

optimistic, windgate, oi.

fmbb, its attitude and sense of morality that defines crime rates. definitely not economic success.

you don't have to look that far. it's just around asean. singapore, remember?

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hehehe

optimistic, windgate, oi.

fmbb, its attitude and sense of morality that defines crime rates. definitely not economic success.

you don't have to look that far. it's just around asean. singapore, remember?

correct ka sir.  pero those countries are ruled by iron hands.  tan-awa ra nang singapore.  ug masajop latos dajon.  ug bug-at ang kaso bitay dajon. bisan ra gani ug mangluwa ka dihas karsada multa dajon. preso ug utrohon.  Malaysia. strikto pod. diris ato ambot na lang.  simpling robery di kadakop or dili ba kaha modakop.  how much more murder!
asenso lagi ta sir pero kauban ug asenso ang underground world. hehehe


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we are the sickman in asia. luoy

sagdi lang, buwad, mangaayo ra lagi ta.

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sagdi lang, buwad, mangaayo ra lagi ta.

sige lang ug dextrose gikan kang uncle sam. or is it? o sige ba kaha gi vampire. hahaha

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sige lang ug dextrose gikan kang uncle sam. or is it? o sige ba kaha gi vampire. hahaha
unsaon di man mosugot latuson, di, dextrosan na lang, wind. hehehe

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we are the sickman in asia. luoy

because we chose to

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we dont choose it but we are overwhelmed by the satan forces in the image of marcos who started it all!

well sana maajo ra gihapon ta at hup hindi terminal cancer ang sakit ni mr. philippines

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we dont choose it but we are overwhelmed by the satan forces in the image of marcos who started it all!

well sana maajo ra gihapon ta at hup hindi terminal cancer ang sakit ni mr. philippines

we chose it, buwad. (ajaw na gud ug palag diha gud. supakero ning mga taga jagna ba)

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we chose it, buwad. (ajaw na gud ug palag diha gud. supakero ning mga taga jagna ba)

sagdi lang na si buwald cals kay suko jud na siya kang marcos ug sa mga kano.  bisan pag balibalihon, suko jud.  hehehe

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hehehe

ikaw buwad ba, si marcos jud dayon pasanginlan nimu sa tanan. hehehe

kana si windgate o, kasab-i na. kadtong mga fans ni marcos sa pikas thread pangbaranga to kay ang mga tawong susama nila maoy nakaingun ining tanan. hahaha (patay jud kong lorenzo ug way nada ini run)

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Wasn't it marcos who ordered martail law?

I can not remember do to the dark blurry cloud in my head for all the things happening to my freinds this past few weks.

Maybe martail law should be reemplimented so people cal it down here and straighten up the criminalistic bad behaviors.

Maybe parts of America should be under martail law also.

Just kidding!

Thanx for keeping the thread alive. Joe has read his statement and has a cooperating witness who is a willing to testify.



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martial law minus violations of human rights?

go go go!

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I said kidding! ha ha ha!

Joe our subject his witness is willing for 2000 pesos but that is normalhere to help out the people here.

Joe by now should be in real shock with how things work here!

ha ha ha!

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pnp, just it keep to yourself that you are helping the family of the witness. it may be used to discredit your witness when he is presented before the court.

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i agree with you, calle.
they might lose what they are fighting for
because of sharing what they did or are still
planning to do against the "bayut"

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According to several attorneis accepting money for the witness is normal and accepted here for time and travel.

Especailly a witness who may be across province.

It is not that people are that rich here to use up there time gas and money and guy will need to eat during the day.

I have heard some witnesses asking more a lot more.


I understand what you are saing. 100%

at first I was opposed to the ideal but after attornies telling me different it is acceptable now in states where I am from it is not acceptable.

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we have to bear in mind that these people who witnessed a crime has a life of their own... if we will pull them out from their daily routine, then we have to feed them and make sure that they are also safe from harm.  so, it really is expensive to file a case!

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i suggest that any "allowance" provided by the lawyer and the victim's family to witnesses should be limited to transportation and meal allowances. and a little perhaps for the disturbance caused on them by the case. nothing more.

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