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The Insurrection Of 1899
« on: June 02, 2008, 06:42:37 AM »
I obtained this from an article written by US MAJ Thomas S. Bundt, in a synapsis of the Philippine Insurrection of 1899. The 'water cure' was mentioned uban sa other more un-ethical means of combat. Objective comments please.

Soldiers acted as representatives
of the United States and helped noncombatants
enhance their position through activities such as
building community infrastructure. These new pacification
methods proved enormously significant and evolved into the components of present-day peacekeeping
operations. Building schools and bringing literacy
to the Philippines was a positive act for future
American and Philippine relations. Brian Aldridge, Drive Them Until They Drop and Then Civilize Them (Ann Arbor,
MI: UMI Dissertation Services, 1993), 144; Birtle, 122-25; 161-163.


I just wanted to tap on the 'bringing literacy' part of the excerpt.



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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 10:31:57 AM »
The history of what the United States claims as the 'Philippine Insurrection' otherwise known by historians as the Philippine-American War is quite one sided.

The United States for a long time implemented Indian-Hunting tactics against the Philippine Revolutionary Forces, bringing in Cavalry and Western Infantry from the newly-claimed territories.

The United States' policies in the Philippines was completely deplorable; suffering the Philippines in a record 1,000,000-2,500,000 deaths (both military and civilian).

Not only did they decimate the population through attrition war tactics, but applied a very deregatory anti-Spanish propagandistic campaign in the Philippines. Implementing tactics that tried to undermine Spanish presence, the Catholic Christian presence and most of all tried to 'Americanize' a people that was once part of the Spanish Empire for almost 400 years.

When I entered college on my freshman year back in 2004 I was rather naive about Philippine-American history. However after taking 4 years of History courses on Philippine-Spanish dynamics, Spanish Colonialism, American History, I realize that most of the history that the Philippines has to this day has been American-based. The negative focus that is associated with Spanish occupation is undoubtedly obvious. Rather disgusting how the American Colonial Government utilized it to undermine Spanish authority and presence in order to secure and legitimate its own Imperialistic goals for the Philippine Islands.

Even then, 50 some odd years of American colonialism and over a century after the severance of the Hispanic umbilical cord that once bound Las Islas Filipinas with Spain, we can still see the eternal imprint of Spanish presence even today. Roman Catholicism, though Filipinized with local trends and superstition, the influence of Roman Law (product of 400 years of Hispanization vis-a-visa Pax Hispanica),  the presence of Hispanic Surnames, the Mestizo Class, La Filipina Solidardido identity (modern Filipino Nationalism was actually a product of Spanish-Filipinos; and or Spanish Creoles of the Philippines; not an original Indio manifesto), the political systems in use are based on Spanish political bureaucracy per se the use of the provincia system, constabularia (Philippine Constabulary-Philippine National Police-Guardia Civil), the presence of urban areas, political units such as barrio, municipalidad, cuidad etc--were all product of Hispanization of the islands through the heralding of the Episcopacy and the Spanish Government.

The foundations of present Filipino Nationhood is due to Spanish political ideology, and enlightenment thinking. The great thinkers of Filipino Nationhood such as Rizal, Aguinaldo etc were all trained in Spanish educational systems.


 

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 10:39:51 AM »
Additionally, after publishing my 40 paged senior thesis on Philippine Nationalism, and reading over 40 primary sources (Spanish sources), it is evident that language and literacy in the Philippines during the Spanish Epoch was rather high.

The national language of the islands was Spanish, with varying dialects being used on a secondary basis.

When the Americans inherited the Philippines from Spain after the Spain's defeat to the United States in the 1898 Spanish-American War, the United States Armed Forces that occupied the islands found it hard to communicate to Spanish-trained Filipino Peninsulares, Gobernadorcillos etc. Hence the United States declared that most of the Filipinos were 'illiterate', despite the fact that the Filipinos were actually very literate in Spanish. Able to read and write.

During this time, there were already thousands of Filipinos who were studying in Europe, primarily in Spain.

Additionally, one can trace the American position of 'Anti-Hispanic' due to America's wars with Mexico in the early and mid 19th century. So there was already a lingering racist anti-hispanic tone within the United States and its Armed Forces.

When they arrived to the Philippines, this distaste was manifested through America's very 'Anti-Spanish' campaign undertones.

As a historian, I find it rather disgusting in how the United States tried so much to 'defile' the Spanish presence. Considering that at that same time, the Spanish government was already having talks of liberalizing the Philippines and making the islands into an actual province of Spain. And all people within as Spanish citizens.



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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 10:52:24 AM »
Whenever I look at the development of Empires and Nation States, I always compare the Spanish Empire to the British Empire, the French Empire, and the German Empire.

Out of these empires, no other Empire has had such significant transformation of its colonies as that as Spain. As Spain's policies were literally to 'transplant' the Motherland into the Colony.

We see this in Latin America. From Mexico, to Argentina and even to states such as Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, California. There is still a very strong Hispanic presence that Spain leaves behind.

Then I look at the Philippines at a sociologico-macrologic point of view and compare it to other surrounding countries in East and South East Asia. And it becomes rather obvious that the Philippines is completely different.

Other nations are confucian-based, or buddhistic based, and have a strong indigenous identity. The Philippines is totally different. When I see the Philippines, the language is strongly Hispanicized, the only Christian (Catholic) nation in Asia, the religious centers even reflect the beauty of the colonizer.

Historians always have a hard time declaring the Philippines as an 'Asian' nation because it is rather unique in that it not only has its indigenous Malay flavor to it, but it undeniably still has strong European presence (particularly Iberian). Its European, yet it is 'Oriental' at the same time.

Even after 50 years of American colonial presence; and over 100 years after the Hispano-Filipino umbilical cord was severed, that relation to Mother and Child is obvious. La Islas Filipinas; is truly a product of Spain. United because of Spain, which brought warring tribal states into one centralized colony. Even the term 'El Filibusterismo Naccionalidad' is, ironically, product of Spaniards who lived in the Philippines; and also by Spanish-Filipino mestizos.

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What America has tried to undermine, still lives on to this day. And looking at it macrologically speaking, it is inevitible. How can one truly erase Spain's imprint when that imprint is almost half a millenia long?

We had 400 years of common history. That's a pretty long time. lol

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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 11:05:25 AM »
Hippie, I want to thank you for creating this very thought-provoking thread.

I love it. And I also invite you to read an article of mine that I posted some months ago.

It is a published journal that I wrote; one of many that I published through college.

http://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/index.php?topic=7102.0



If you want to read more, merely PM me and I will send you copies.

Please, do give me your opinion and point of view.

It is a pleasure to meet another Historian. :)

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 11:14:08 AM »
Lorenzo,

Just to let you know, I am far from a historian. I just love stories. I would like to thank you for all the input that you provided! Unfortunately, it is hard to come across material that isn't superficial. I have to admit that I can be lazy and most of what I know comes form people like you who actually put the time into the research. I admire your passion.

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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 11:42:16 AM »
Hippie,

We are all historians by right. And I truly applaud you for posting that passage because it gives us an idea of the American perspective of the Filipino and the Philippines during the turn of the 20th century.

What I find very ironic is that during the beginning of the Spanish-American War, many Americans wanted to usurp Spain's positions in order to create its own 'American Empire' as what the Europeans had.

America entered the Philippines promising the Philippine Revolutionary Government under President-General Emilio Aguinaldo to 'rid' of Spanish military presence; and secure the independence of the Philippines. America, upon opportunity, took advantage of the Philippine Republic and claimed the Republic as its own 'American Colony'. A result of rising pro-imperialist policies in the United States during the late 19th century.

What is ironic is that by the time the Philippine-American War started, something the United States thought it could quell in weeks. Moods changed.

America lost over 4,000 troops and 20,000 were either wounded or missing in action. The United States suffered more casualties in the Philippines than it did fighting the Spaniards in the Spanish-American War, lol. And the only reason why the United States defeated the Filipino Revolutionary Army was because America sent over 150,000 of its troops to the Philippines.

Spain, at the eruption of the Spanish-Philippine War, had about 20,000 troops in the Islands. Almost all of the Spanish bastions were overrun and defeated by Revolutionary forces and the only bastion that was not taken was Manila. And the only reason why it wasn't taken by Filipino forces was because Admiral Dewey requested that Filipino Forces not attack Manila.

By 1898, the Filipino Revolutionary Army was already a full fighting force; at 70,000 man strong. With a cavalry force and artillery units.

Filipino Forces defeated Spain in that war, and the only reason why the Philippines lost that war was because by the time the Philippine-American War erupted, American already sent 150,000 troops. It overwhelmed the Revolutionary Army by its shear size. And forced the Revolutionary Army to adopt guerrilla tactics.

From all my readings of Philippine Colonial History, Spain did not inflict such damage to Filipinos as did the United States did. An estimated 1-2 million Filipinos died at the hands of the United States in that war. Spain's presence in the Philippines brought growth to the islands, economic as well as populatory growth. Not the reversal.


Thats something American text books like to forget ;)

I know this personally. They still regard the Philippine-American War as an Insurrection.

It kinda makes it big when more American troops were maimed, and killed in the 'Philippine Insurrection' than in the 'Spanish-American War'.

lol.


Lastly, what the American Populace once declared its 'American Colony' aka The Philippines became what great American literary writers such as Walt Whitman termed as 'The White Man's Burden'.

America, when it occupied the Philippines, not only took over a massive archipelago of 7,000 islands, but an alien people that numbered to 10 million strong. And worst of all, in the American View, that most of these 'Asiatics' were 'Roman Catholics' or as what Americans would like to term as 'Papists'.

I always laugh at works by President McKinley when he told the American people that he conquered the Philippines and the Filipino people because he wanted to 'CHRISTIANIZE' them.

lol, it is ironic because by the time America invaded the Philippines, the Archipelago was already 'Christian'. 98% Roman Catholic.

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 11:47:12 AM »
Dong, so kadto diay mga gipangsulat ni Jose Rizal, most notably his EL Filibusterismo and Noli Me Tangere, that was more fiction than fact, with regards to the Spaniards' oppression of the Indios? I don't know Philippine history that well, which is quite shameful really. So anything you write here Dong that'll help me better understand our nation's history is greatly appreciated.

I was watching Elizabeth: The Golden Age earlier today, and I was amazed that King Phillip of Spain declared Holy War on England on the premise of Elizabeth being a bastard, and of England being a country of heathens, just because they weren't Catholic. tsk, tsk, tsk...tinuod gyud diay that more wars have been fought in the name of religion more than anything else in history...



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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 11:53:40 AM »
You have to consider, my post was obtained from a military based website for soldiers. That means that it is sugar coated to inspire the troops, not necessarily educate them. The USAF is fond of using euphimisms to soften the blow. In a way, it is effective. In traumatic situations such as war, one needs as much shelter as one can get. Even if it is calling a war anything but a war.

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2008, 12:07:48 PM »
Dong, so kadto diay mga gipangsulat ni Jose Rizal, most notably his EL Filibusterismo and Noli Me Tangere, that was more fiction than fact, with regards to the Spaniards' oppression of the Indios? I don't know Philippine history that well, which is quite shameful really. So anything you write here Dong that'll help me better understand our nation's history is greatly appreciated.

I was watching Elizabeth: The Golden Age earlier today, and I was amazed that King Phillip of Spain declared Holy War on England on the premise of Elizabeth being a bastard, and of England being a country of heathens, just because they weren't Catholic. tsk, tsk, tsk...tinuod gyud diay that more wars have been fought in the name of religion more than anything else in history...



Dr. Rizal's writings of El Filibusterismo and Noli Mi Tangere were fictional but were written to address the grievances that the Spanish Colonial Government inflicted on the Filipino Indios and the Filipino Mestizos.

Rizal, through his writings and his interactions with journals such as La Solidaridad voiced out the duality of Spain and its policies and the need to address change.

What was happening during the late 19th century was that Spain was in social and political turmoil. The country was experiencing Victorian liberalism, and the superfluous writings of Human confraternity, Human equality, Human dignity etc was voiced out.

Rizal and his fellow Filipino compatriots in Spain wanted to address the feudalistic system that was in place in the Philippines. He addressed that though Spain, the nation, was liberalizing, its overseas possessions were still being ruled by the colonial governments that conflicted with Spanish Laws of Human Equality and Universalism.

One major grievance that Dr. Rizal pointed out in his writings in La Solidaridad was the fact that the Roman Catholic Church, particularly the Friars still ruled over the lands and controlled political policies in the islands. We saw this in his addressing of the execution of Fathers Burgos, Gomez and Zamora by the Spanish Colonial Government.

Ate, Rizal was actually VERY popular in Spain and had MANY supporters in the Royal Spanish Cortes.

Dr. Rizal was actually a proponent of liberalizing the Philippines and reducing the power/influence of the church in the political processes as well as making the Philippines into a 'Provincia' of Spain. Hence, woudl be given equal rights as Spanish Citizens; under Spanish Law and under the protection of The King.

Rizal was never 'Anti-Spain' he was against the Spanish Colonial Government in the Philippines, which contradicted the Laws that Spain passed. Ultimately the blame can be passed onto the Church for its abuse of power, as well as the corruption of the colonial government. Rizal, from his personal journals, loved Spain. And referred to it as 'Espana Madre' (Mother Spain) in his letters.

So loved is Rizal by Spaniards that there are monuments to him in Madrid.

It should be noted that Spanish politicians forewarned Rizal about the dangers of returning to Las Islas Filipinas because the Colonial Government already banned his writings 'El Filibusterismo and Noli Mi Tangere', which were, ironically, very popular and accepted in Spain and in Western Europe (many copies were circulated in France, Germany, England, Belgium).




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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 12:17:37 PM »
I was watching Elizabeth: The Golden Age earlier today, and I was amazed that King Phillip of Spain declared Holy War on England on the premise of Elizabeth being a bastard, and of England being a country of heathens, just because they weren't Catholic. tsk, tsk, tsk...tinuod gyud diay that more wars have been fought in the name of religion more than anything else in history...



I completely agree with you 'te. Millions upon millions have died in the name of religion. Religion, by itself is never dangerous. But whenever religion is used to propagate and fuel a political agenda, then it becomes not only dangerous but distorted.

I agree with you jud, 'te.

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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2008, 12:21:54 PM »
You have to consider, my post was obtained from a military based website for soldiers. That means that it is sugar coated to inspire the troops, not necessarily educate them. The USAF is fond of using euphimisms to soften the blow. In a way, it is effective. In traumatic situations such as war, one needs as much shelter as one can get. Even if it is calling a war anything but a war.

Hippie, it is a very rich primary source to refer to. I just love reading the discourse of varying perspectives; seeing the American side, the Filipino side, the Spanish etc.

We get a 'wholer' picture because of it.

Salamaat kaayo for opening this thread. :)

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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2008, 12:27:05 PM »
Salamat ani, Dong ha. I never knew this. I thought that everything that happened in the country, all the atrocities done by the Friars and the Guardia Civil, was somehow sanctioned by the motherland, Spain. I may need to read up on Rizal's life again. All I remember (barely) were his steamy love affairs with women all around the world. I'll need to brush up on Philippine history as well. Any good books you recommend, Dong?

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 12:39:05 PM »
It is not our fault jud 'te. It is an effect of American Presence in the country; as the main policy of the United States from 1901 till 1946 was to legitimize American presence in the islands. And the only way it would be able to do that was to criminalize the Spanish regime in the island.
Good ol' simple propaganda. What is sad tho is that many Filipinos have already forgotten both sides of the historical spectrum. And many have just adopted the American view of Philippine History.

Some good books that I highly recommend 'te are:

-The U. S. Army and Counterinsurgency in the Philippine War, 1899-1902
by Brian McAllister Linn

-The Link That Kept the Philippines Spanish: Mexican Merchant Interests and the Manila Trade, 1571-1815, in Journal of World History
by Katharine Bjork

-Contracting Colonialism: Translation and Christian Conversion in Tagalog Society under Early Spanish Rule by Vincente Rafael

-In our Image: America's Empire in the Philippines
By Stanley Karnow

-Spain in the Philippines: From Conquest to Revolution.
by Nicholas P. Cushner

-Basques in the Philippines (A Personal Favorite of Mine)
By Marciano R. De Borja





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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 12:40:37 PM »
Here is a synopsis/summary of De Borja's Basques in the Philippines:

The Basques, one of Spain's most distinct ethnic minorities, played a remarkably influential role in the creation and maintenance of Spain's vast colonial empire, including the Philippines. Basques were members of the Magellan expedition that discovered the Philippines in 1521, and a Basque-led expedition subsequently laid the foundation for Spain's conquest and pacitication of the archipelago. Despite the small population of their native provinces, the Basques' unique skills as shipbuilders, navigators, businessmen, and scribes; their evangelical zeal; and their ethnic cohesion and work-oriented culture made them well suited to serve as explorers, colonial administrators, missionaries, settlers, merchants, and shippers in the trans-Pacific galleon trade between China, Manila, and Acapulco, Mexico. After the Wars of Independence deprived Spain of most of its American empire, many Basques settled in the Philippines, fleeing political persecution and increasingly limited opportunities in their homeland. Basque emigration from Spain to the Philippines continued through the first half of the twentieth century. This work breaks new ground with its study of the Basque diaspora in the far East. It also addresses the long-unappreciated history of the Philippines as a vital part of the Spanish Empire, closely connected through trade and personal ties to the American colonies, and crucial to the European penetration of East Asia. Basques distinguished themselves in many areas of Filipino life, and their story, as told by Marciano de Borja, is rich in vivid characters and fascinating detail, while at the same time filling an important void in the scholarly literature about the Basque diaspora.



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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 12:42:02 PM »
Salamat, Dong. I hope I find these in the local library.

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2008, 12:45:03 PM »
Dong, why is it nga wala man na colonize sa Spain ning atong neighboring Asian countries?

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2008, 12:46:03 PM »
'te, the current Ayala family in the Philippines are old Spanish Creoles. They are also Basque Spaniards.

Remnants of Spanish presence that still lives in the Philippines today.

In Mindanao there is a dialect known as Chabacano. It is heavily Spanish based, but is due to Basque influence.



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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2008, 11:30:17 PM »
Dong, why is it nga wala man na colonize sa Spain ning atong neighboring Asian countries?

pilipinas ramay makaya nila

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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2008, 08:46:47 AM »
Dong, why is it nga wala man na colonize sa Spain ning atong neighboring Asian countries?


By the early to mid 16th century, most of Central and South America was conquered by Spain and with it led to the creation of the Viceroyalties of Nueva Espana, La Plata, and Peru. During this time, the Spanish Empire was consolidating its new-found possessions and with it led to the epoch known by historians as La migración or Raíz Española, which was the largest migration of humans to the new world prior to the 18th and 19th centuries. It was in this time when tens of thousands of Spaniards colonized the new world.

To secure their empire, Spain made it policy to proliferate not only Hispanic culture to the new world; which ranged in Roman Catholicism for the indigenous Indios, Roman Law, Spanish Court, Social etiquette, the Hispanized agricultural system of the landed elite (haciendas, encomiendas). And most importantly, the Spanish gene seed.

After Spain's almost-inexhaustible armies defeated the civilizations of the Ahuatls, the Incas and the Aztecas, they were commanded by their generallisimos to 'spread' Spain in those lands. Per se it meant in breeding with the local Indio females; an amalgamation of European and Indio. We see this in Mexico and Latin America where most of hte population are Spanish mestizos or have some kind of Spanish blood. The reason for such a wide-spread Mestizo population in Nueva Espana (Mexico and its territories) was due to the large Azteca population.

However in South American viceroyalties of La Plata as well as Peru, there was a greater Peninsulare, Creole population. The reason for this is because there were more Spaniards that came to the area to colonize and settle it due to the rich flat lands of South America as well as the vast natural resources. A landed aristocracy grew in South America, which spearheaded for more European immigration to the region. This is why there are more Caucasian or pure Creoles in nations such as Argentina, Chile, Columbia etc as compared to Central America, which has a prevalence of Indio and Mestizo population.

Nonetheless, what happened in the three viceroyalties was the effect of agricultural revolution, and the development of a lucrative domestic trade economy and port trade.

The discovery of the Philippines was ideological for the Spanish Empire. (Considering the fact that the target of Columbus and the Spanish expedition in 1492 targeted to find Cathay and the rich islands of the Malaccas and not the New World--which they found and landed accidentally).

The Philippines was pivotal for Spain due to its geographic location and its proximity to China (Cathay as it was once called). Spain took advantage of the Philippines as a way to secure its lucrative plans for trade with China and the Orient. To secure this, it was imperative for the Empire to completely Hispanicize the Philippines. To make the Philippines 'Spanish'. And would therefore be its 'base' of operations in the Orient.

Spain sent thousands upon thousands of its priests and monks with cooperation from the Episcopacy and the Vatican (which Spain had influence on, due to the fact that Spain at this time controlled all of Central and Southern Italy, Sardinia, the Netherlands, parts of southern France and territories of the Holy Roman Empire (Germany). The Vatican, therefore, acquiesced to Spain's decrees.

From initial reports of the Philippines (from the remaining survivors of Magellan's crew) it was apparent that the Philippines, like the natives of Central and South America, were regionalistic. With this in mind, Spain utilized the same tactics it used to the Indios of the Americas. By pitting indios against indios. As Spain took advantage of the Ahuatls and the Toltecs to fight against the Aztecas. Spain pitted Tagalogs against Illocanos, and visayans against visayans to conquer the entire Archipelago. Once conquered, Spain sent thousands of its priests and friars with decrees to Evangelize the islands. As the indios of the Philippines were regarded as 'blasphemic heathens'.

The Filipino Indios, ironically, converted to Christianity relatively peacefully. Most of Luzon and the Visayas adopted Christianity and applied their own regional flavors to it, whereas the Moro South actually fought Christian Evangelization.

When the Islands were organized into political units, developed port trade, and were 'Hispanicized' it became the strategic link between the trade lanes of China and the Spanish Empire.

The rich goods of China and the Orient were taken to the Philippines, and from there would be shipped to Nueva Espana of the Spanish Empire vis-a-vis the Acapulco Galleon Trade. Which lasted form 1570 till the independence of Mexico in the early 19th century, a result of the Peninsulare War.

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As for the question why Spain did not conquer other countries in Asia; the reason is because Spain did not want to administer new lands. Most of Asia was 'heathen' according to the collective mind of Christian-Catholic Spain. Though Spain had minor influences with trade lanes in China, Siam, Malaccas and Japan, it did not actively support expansionist policies in Asia.

The reason for this was strategic. Spain, at the time of the late 16th century and the 17th century, was already over-stretched as it was. Ruled almost 1/4th of the world's land mass. And by the 17th century over 100 million souls lived within the Spanish Empire.  Governing such a vast empire was troublesome, especially while competing with growing European rivals such as England, France, Germany and Portugal.

Supporting a massive expedition to conquer another foreign land in the Asian continent would have bankrupted Spain and would have exhausted her armies, which were already overstretched. This is why the Philippines remains the only Spanish territory in Asia-Pacific. And due to that fact, the Royal Court of Philip II and Charles II declared the Philippines be a Royal Colony of the Empire.

The Philippines, is and was, regarded by the Spanish Empire as the 'Jewel of the Spanish Empire'. Spain's only bastion in the Orient; and for almost half a millenia, considered the only 'Spanish' soil in Asia.

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Partially correct. Spain could have easily conquered Portugese-then-Dutch Malaccas, due to the shear might of Spain's Royal Navy, which wouldn't be ecclipsed by any other until the late mid 18th century. Spain's Armies numbered in the Millions of men. However, considering the fact that she ruled over 2 massive continents (North America and South America) as well as its possessions in Europe, and territories in Africa, it made it quite difficult to  support further expansionist policies in the Orient.

Additionally, Spain's presence in the Orient was primarily to trade and take advantage of the richness of Cathay (China) and the Indies. Not to conquer it.

To do so would affect Spain's relations with China--to the detriment of its trade relations.

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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2008, 11:58:24 AM »
Wow, taasa adto Dong oi. But quite fascinating.

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2008, 09:48:43 AM »
I love colonial history, 'te. Not only Philippines', but American, and Latin American.

There is a romantic appeal to it, in the Western aspect. And it is something that will eternally affect the societies of the world in the future. Colonial dynamics and its effects in the politics, culture, economics and sociology of regions is a personal favorite.

I love reading about it.  :)

If you have any other questions, please do, I am always here to try my best to answer them to the best of my ability within the context of the perspective in question.

To my fellow historians, please indulge us about your views on the said subject matter. We are all students of History, let us all learn from one another.



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