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Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 03:02:03 AM
On the contrary. There is nothing 'Blind' about Faith.
Let's get back to Scripture Study.
Quote from: fongxz on March 11, 2010, 11:21:28 PM
Walay lain nga makatabang o makapa-usab o makapalambo sa lungsod sa Valencia kundili ang mga Valencianhon mismo.Tinood,in terms of monetary arsenal lisod pildehon ang naa sa pwesto karon.Ang pagkahiusa sa mga taga Valencianhon lamang maoy armas para sa kausaban.
Quote from: Koddi Prudente on July 25, 2009, 11:33:35 AM
Dimiao: Gallur, Madjus, Magadan, Agaro, Acuram, Baliling
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 02:50:23 AM
FAITH, my dear Lawrence.
God Bless You.
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 02:35:21 AM
Addendum,
Lawrence, one must also take into consideration that one has to be sensitive in language forms. We have to understand and accept that the compilation of scriptural work and many words and expressions were altered in its translation into English. From the original Greek.
As the original was in Greek, then translated into Latin, and then into other languages: English, French, German, etc.
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 02:15:11 AM
God Bless Your Question, Vhinz.
First let me thank you, brother, for joining our conversation and discussion.
The question that you ask was asked because the Holy Spirit,who lives within your body (as our bodies are the Temples of the Holy Spirit) directed you to this discussion to have a better / firmer grasp in the concept of Salvation and the means to Salvation. So I want to thank you for 2 things:
1. Your joining our faithful discussion here
2. Your question regarding Salvation, and specifically on the concept of Purgatory.
That said, Let us Talk.
But before we discuss this, let us usher a prayer for the Holy Spirit to OPEN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS to accept and be directed by His Instructions. To Understand Effectively and Faithfully: Lord, guide us our hearts and minds to bear and understand the things that we wish to learn, in faith and assurance that you will provide for our needs in this holy venture. We ask This in Your Name, Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God The Father. God The Holy Spirit open our hearts. In Jesus Name. Amen.
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The Roman Catholic Church teaches us , brothers and sisters, that :
“There is a purgatory, and the souls there detained are assisted by the suffrages of the faithful, but especially by the most acceptable sacrifice of the altar†(Promulgation Council of Trent).
And it was in the Council of Trent that all Biblical passages and books were augmented and united under one book. So by authority of the Lord God that was placed in the hands of the Early Church Fathers, compiled the Holy Bible in its Complete Form. And with it, the addressing that there indeed is a state of Purgatory. By Authority and Legitimacy that the Church claims from Jesus Christ, Alone, who placed it on the shoulders of the Church by Apostolic Succession of Peter's Chair.
This dogmatic definition contains 3 points of faith that all Catholics are required to believe:
1. There is a purgatory
2. After death, souls suffer there for their sins
3. The living can extend assistance to such souls
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There is a purgatory
Forgiveness of sin in the next â€" Matthew 12:32
“Under the earth†â€" Revelations 5:2-3; Philippians 2:10
After death, souls suffer there for their sins
“You will not come out of it till you pay the last penny†â€" Matthew 5:26
“Matthean Parallel†(See: Matthew 18:23-35)
“Lazarusian Incident†(See: Luke 16:19-31)
Spirits in prison â€" 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6
The living can extend assistance to such souls
Restrain not grace from the dead â€" Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 7:37
See: Ruth 1:8
Offerings/Sacrifice for the dead
2 Maccabees 12:38-36
“And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection†(2 Maccabees 12:43, Douay-Rheims Bible).
Fasting for the for the dead
1 Samuel 31:13;
1 Chronicles 10:12
2 Samuel 1:12
Prayer for the dead
2 Maccabees 12:44-46
“It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins†(2 Maccabees 12:46, Douay-Rheims Bible).
See: Nehemiah 1:4-6, cf. Nehemiah 2:5
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Understanding Purgatory:
1. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands knowing the nature/attributes of God:
God is Holy (Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Revelations 4:8; Leviticus 11:44
God is Just (1 John 1:9; Revelations 15:3)
God is Merciful (Psalm 116, Lamentations 3:22, Psalm 103:8 )
See: Ruth 2:20
God is Love (1 John 4:8, 16)
2. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands a proper understanding of the concept of sin:
Gradation (degrees) of sin
Mortal Sin vs. Venial Sin (1 John 5:16-17, NRSV)
Quote from: statesville on March 09, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Though getting a degree and passing the board are the key points to get a job
but as usual our country the Philippines are putting more graduates than the market demands.
Going abroad is the only options for those who gets lucky in making it through
the required exams.
With today's economy in a shaky grounds, the Health care jobs are also at halt.
Here in the hospital in the U.S. where I work, they freeze the hiring since last September
while waiting for the outcome of the Health Care plan that is still ongoing in the Senate.
Many workers in this hospital went to school while working to become RN's but no jobs
for them after making it through, that they have to leave and look somewhere else.
Quote from: beyotch on March 08, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
what i mean is the way the instructor presents their lesson to their students..some of them are just copying lessons to the black board with out explaining, then jump into another topic without knowing whether their student understands or not....some of them limit their aids to the books that they've got in their hands...and hope they conduct educational tours to attain a more conducive place for learning...
