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#2
Yes Karma, maybe they have give us a kick up the arse we needed to take this even further i can assure you now the wife is far from getting away with this. Anyone reading this blog there will be a link that wont get locked.
#3
Big mistake locking our site, now we will show the world photos of Martin in the morgue and we link it to everything on the internet for everyone who even plans on a holiday there. It will be headlined- THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU STEP FOOT IN BOHOL. Your choice you decided to make us fight even harder.
#4
Hope Steve Wells does not mind use using this blog but unfortunatly someone has decided to block Martins site . Now if this is also locked just go to face book and we will start to show poeple what is really going on. I can assure everyone we will not give up. Its madness we have never critised the people or the county. We just have some stuck up Phillipean people who think its about them. Have you not realised its only ever been about justice. The person who locked our site  are you related to the wife of Martin or are you being paid  by her ?
#5
Thegirlnext door, we have done are homework and i do hope the philippean and British authorities are listerning to us, we have been to them with our evidence and i do hope they act with what we have taken to them. I do also believe, but am not as yet 100% sure, but i have good information that one of the policemen arrested for that shooting is an uncle of Mhargie, Martins williams wife. Its probably the reason why they have gone quite in this blog and no answers to our questions have been answered.
#6
Lets all ignore the above, this is not about getting into a slanging match about a particular country, Do you want to go and wirte on another blog about some prostitution emprie because basically your comments are not wanted or needed. If you have something interesting to say, go find out some answers regarding the questions that need answering about Martins murder.
#7
Yes Chona ,bebe,ning,Mhargie, What has happened to you ? You have always claimed her inocence, but still to this day unable to answer any questions. You said if we talked you would talk and we are all still waiting. Your silence only makes a fool of you all.
#8
Welcome and thankyou, ive just read about Evelyn Bohol Davis, it took some years for the wife to be convicted it turned out one of the 3 murderers turned state witness. As you say  she was no where near the murder scene but she paid for the dirty work to be carried out. Lets hope Gulle will turn state witness.
#9
I dont understand what you are saying there are plenty of facts most printed on this site, some not,as it wouldnt be wise to do so. Both countiries authorities are aware of facts and evidence, its just extremly difficult to get a bit of action, but we will, and there is also a lawer involved. I personally will keep moaning.
#10
Kiris of course no-one is saying there isnt crimes all over the world just as grusome if not worse. The thing is when a crime like this is not investigated properly, when evidence goes missing, storys dont add up, forensic evidence isnt dealt with in the correct manner and there is obviously police corruption and cover ups and lets not forget the other attempts on his life - And the person murdered is a friend or your family you cant help but get as passionate as we are about getting justice for them. This feeling isnt something everyone will feel in there lifetime and i hope it doesnt happen to many,i wouldnt wish it on anyone, but i can assure you if it does you can not rest until you get your justice. We all know Gulle will serve a long time behind bars but we also know there are others who should be with him, so we will fight until that day comes.
#11
It goes to show crusader that anyone reading this can also see the wife is behind his murder, as you said once before she may not have held the knife but she certainly knows about it and is an accessary to his murder. Theres far too many flaws in the whole story, even Gulles story isnt true, he was obviously one of the murderers, but he knows who the others are and he knows who the person is who was paying for Martins murder. The problem now is Gulle will fear for his own familys lives if he talks,so we will have to hope the police can come up with more evidence to convict others aswel.
#12
Yep i would like to know that and also, she was informed at 8am on another island and arrived in Tagbilaran at 10am. Can she fly?
#13
His will was either on him and stolen when he was murdered or in his safe which shes ransacked it within hours of his death.

They say i know all the answers, do they want me to answer the others ?
#14
You gave the same answer as Chona,that ive already answered those questions, thats the same as she said . So you also say the wife is guilty , you must be saying that if you agree with what i say. Think about it. You have just said am right.
#15
I wouldnt be asking questions if i knew the answers, Durr !! Lets face it, we all know for a fact it was his wife that paid someone to shoot at him, Martin found that out while still alive, we also know for a fact she offered the money for someone to poison him and we also know for a fact it was her friends who where paid money to come up with the rape alligations. Now those questions ive not asked, cos they are questions i know the answers to. So the reason why people think the wife is behind the stabbing is mainly because of the other attempts on his life which she was behind. So its hard to believe she wasnt behind that fatal day when he was grusomly murdered. Shes not helped in any way, all she has done is blacken his name, talked as if he deserved it, lied about being friends with his family, happily moved into his house, opened his bar and got everything she wanted, which she could only get if he was dead before his marriage was annulled. Now you tell me if it was your friend and the shoe was on the other foot would you not think the same as we all do ?. Weve tried to give her the chance to answer the questions connected to the stabbing which she refuses to do and in my eyes and everyone elses it just makes her look more and more guilty. So if she is innocent i dont understand why most of those questions cant be answered, but thats up to her but until she does she will get the blame.


Lets be honest its not as if the questions are hard,not even for someone with your IQ. Babe, sorry Bebe i mean.  ::)
#16
Whats happened Chona ?? you said to me if i keep talking you will keep talking. You seemed to have forgot your voice, remember am only a grumpy old man, Ha Ha ( so you say) surely i cant be much of a threat to you.
#17
Welcome fionna, it must have took you some time to read this from the begining,
It seems to have gone a bit quite now, but am hoping to write some interesting news very soon i just need to find out the facts first.
Stay tunned, watch this space !
Fingers crossed. !
#18
Can i just ask any of the local people over there, if it is normal practice for the police to ask or even allow any public person in this case the wife and her auntie of the murder victim to go and find out the motive off the murderer , (just go and have a chat with him see what you can find out. have a cup of tea while your at it.) That must be the strangest thing ive ever heard

#19
Quote from: chona on May 15, 2009, 02:15:04 AM
HEY THE WIFE NEVER BROUGHT ANY GIRLS TO THE POLICE EXCEPT  HER AUNTIE ,SHE WENT TO THE STATION BCOZ THE POLICE RANG HER TO SEE THE MURDERER  AND FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE MOTIVES OF KILLING ,THE MURDERER CONFESS ROBERRY WITH HOMICIDE.
#20
Am i getting this right , The police asked you and your auntie to interview the murderer to find out what his motives where ?
#21
Ok she managed to answer one question, what time was she informed, that was about the easiest, there are so many others, for example

1. Why take girls to the police after his death with more rape alligations ?

2. Why visit Gulle ?

I can repeat myself over again but i think everyone can read the previous posts.

The court case due was to annulle the marriage and why on earth should she of got HIS house that he built with his money, he paid his child maintence and she recieved British child benefit. And if she wanted the house so much, why is she selling it now she has it.?

Where was the money, cellphone and wallet found ?

The British embassy will not say the wife is innocent as they will not comment to anyone, anyone can check that out, the reason being the case is not closed.

Lets face it we all know what we think.

#22
Hofelina, could you kindly translate. Thankyou.
#23
If you ring the British embassy they will not give anyone any information as this is still an on going case. Ive tried that.

Even though you  know i dont understand all you just wrote, reading between the lines you have not actually answered any of the asked questions.
#24
Chona..Why on earth do i want to come there, would that be to face the same fate as Martin ? You say we know everything already so whats the purpose of answering the questions . So what your applying is that we are right and the wife is guilty. You have just said it all and so therefore answered quite well. You also say shes guilty.

#25
Ok Chona, seeing as you are the wife or the family, answer these questions the best you can, if shes so innocent help her by proving it. Clear her name.

1. Where was the wife during Martins homicide attempts.?

2. What time was she informed of his murder ?

3. Who informed her ?

4. How did this person know how to inform her ?

5. Why would she text to Martin 15 mins before the shooting attempt "GOODNIGHT" when not on speaking terms ?

6.Why go and visit Gulle as soon as he was arrested and be able to be left alone with him and talk about anything they wanted ?

7. Why want Martins mobile phone, why not leave it with the police, when it could of had possible evidence on it ?

8. Why take girls after his death to the police with more rape alligations ?

9. Why put the house up for sale at half its market value ? ( thats maybe because its now haunted. )

I may think of others but these questions will do for now, so instead of coming on here incriminating his wife more by always being on the attack and not ever saying anything constructive . GIVE US SOME ANSWERS - SHOW US SHES NOT BEHIND THIS - I DOUBT VERY MUCH YOU CAN.




#26
sometimes this blog goes off what its ment for, we all know there are lots of lovely kind genuine people both here in England and the Phillipeans. Both counties are lovely places and both have bad in them.

Remember what this site is for, its to help get justice for Martin,. Am still waiting for the simple questions to be answered by his wife the ones with the simple answers, she is reading this so are her friends and family, can no one answer ?
#27
Just for the record if any one reading this wants to take up the offer of any reward, it is very easily arranged through an attorney over there. It would be paid upon the conviction of other partys involved and not just hear say or rumours.
#28
Well said, i agree with what you say, at the end of the day the only people who would fight against us are the people who have something to hide. Who in the right mind would want a murderer walking freely. ? So what if  i offer double the reward of what the killers have been paid ? Would that help bring justice ? This is not an insult to your people, but like in all countries a reward oftern works or helps if theres no other way to get to the bottom of something that is difficult to solve.



#29
Bob, no-one disagrees that one of the murderers has been caught,pleaded guilty and will be sentenced accordingly. What is everyones concern is that there was more than one murderer, which is a known fact, so tell me why you think any other murderer should walk free? There is also connections with the other attempts on Martins life,these are the reasons why this story is not at an end.
With regards to Amys welfare, dont you agree it would be wrong to allow other murderers of her father to be able to walk the streets freely? It is in his daughters interest and well being, that they are all caught.
#30
Yes, Dolphin, i did notice, and your right it doesnt take a clever person to know theres so much more to this crime.
#32
I would just like to quote what abby said on the previous page that - Je (Martins wife) told her that Gulle commited the robbery with homicide to get Martins phone,money and keys to his bike. What happened to the story that he went to the aid of Borja ? Liars will always slip up and hang themselves.

Or was that to have been his payment for his part in the crime ?
#33
Chona,abby,ning,gee ect, you really are all very amusing, do you not read the facts ?? The whole reason of this site is because this is not yet a closed case. There are other murderers there are people who have paid for this to be done and we will fight till justice is served, i can state all the facts again for you if you wish, but i am presuming you have read everything that has been said here. So NO, it is not the end of the story. Infact it is very far from the end of the story.
#34
Thanks for the update, it goes without saying that there is a lot more sinister to this than just the capture of Gulle commiting the murder. This has to be investigated properly to bring peace to your province and justice for Martin. The others murderers and the peole who paid for the job to be done must be brought to justice also.
#35
You grieve in a strange way for your husband and the father of your child. !
#36
Quotes of yours or your sisters is why you have brought this on yourself.
#37
Quote from: chona on April 21, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
hey you ?dont ever involve margie here or her sister we are only her friends telling the truth what kind of person martin was evil and badly treated his wife and daughter,he offered me money for sex and told him what kind of girl do u think i am?go back to ur wife and child,but he it didnt take him long to find another girl very young in another bar,his whole life here was just sex sex sex,and he wont even pay for his baby medicine when she was sick ,he was a disgrace as a husband and a pittyful excuse of a father.thats was he is.
#38

Your picture of the tazmanian devil, suits you fine.!
;D
#39
You just dont get it do you, you are the wife/family,and all you have done on this site is to try to justify Martins death, i can quote so many awful things you and your sister has said. Steve quoted what Martin believed and spoke as if it was on Martins behalf, others like myself do accuse you of being behind it because of your actions. You have never acted like a sad and concerned wife, youve brought this on youself.

Yes aswel you was deported, what i said is i dont know about a stamp on a passport, but to be honest things like that are quite trivial compared to being accused of being behind a murder, wouldnt you agree.?
#40
Chona, i never said you or your sister is it, has deported on the passport as i dont know, ive not seen it, correction, i said she has to apply for a special visa to re enter the uk now, which according to my friend in the foreign office is a fact, the case is still an unsolved murder as all the killers are not yet apprehended, Gulle did not commit this murder on his own which is also a fact and as i said common knowledge. Why on earth do you think this forum is on going,? its to help bring real justice to this case. So i will make this my business and i dont think i need your permission to do so.

The question i ask you, seeing as you and Ning10 is the wife and/or her sister why are you not with us in helping to find out the truth. Why are you against us trying to solve this unsolved murder? If your so innocent !!
#41
chona, if you want to say something to me write in a way i will understand, be proud, but dont be ignorant. Do you think your comments will will make much difference anyway ? This is about an unsolved murder not a honda motorcycle or if she had deported stamped on her passport. (which by the way she now has to apply for a special visa to return to the uk- the authorities will confirm that.)
#42
Rald is obviously an educated man, he also has no interest to side with either Martin or his wife. Its common Knowledge theres more to this than just Gulle commiting the crime, so all he is intersested in is finding out the truth and bringing justice. The reason being for the love of his country and the people. All countries in the world have crime and there are always some people that think that they are above the law and thats something no country should accept.
#43
I dont understand the mentality of some people on this site, This is a horrific murder the poor man was attacked by many people stabbed numerous times and you seem to think its ok for that to happen. I sat with Martin many nights at his bar he fed the girls every night, he treated them extremley well and there are staff that would vouch for that, hasnt any one noticed that the only bad things said about Martin are by his estranged wife or her friends.
#44
Rald, you ask crusader does he really believe his wife and family are behind this, and that he shouldnt think like that just because of some text messages,which i totally understand where your coming from, but the thing is it wasnt just text messages. It really is what Martin believed before he died, he was 100% sure himself she was behind the attempted murders and that came to light when he put up the reward after the shooting. I can assure you he never wanted to believe it was her ,but all the evidence he gathered while he was still alive made him believe it was. One being it was her who offered money to a bar maid to poison him. His friends and family feel as strong as they do mainly because of what Martin said before his death and it was what he believed and said, not what his friends and family are wanting to make up.
#45
Hows it gong out there Joe,?
#46
Yer Nat, not just hate and sick, they must have blue blood running through thier veins- its pure EVIL.
#47
 Ning,Chona/Jenny/Gee !! you really are stupid do you really not think no-one knows who you are ? Durr !!.  Ur still trying every trick in the book, the thing is ur just not clever enough, its quite amusing reading what you write you just keep digging that hole that little bit bigger, every time you write something you always come out with something personal about Martin that only his wife or close friends would know,  you say about Martins and steves other friend, how many people know about him. Dont think thats common knowledge. Do you also not realise the authorities read this site so keep it coming and hang yourself. Steves getting the death threats now ive noticed, is that because Martins not here anymore for you to send them to. ?
#48
Curiosty killed the cat ! How do you know theres been no family members out there ? You know nothing. Justice is all anyone wants and the day will come when you will eat your words.
#49
The bible has a great deal to say about revenge.
The key verse regarding this truth is found in the old testament and is quoted twice in the new testament.
God said-
"It is mine to avenge, i will repay, In due time their foot will slip, their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them."

(And god is on our side.)
#50
I can assure you Martin will not be resting in peace at this moment in time, the poor man will be turning in his grave.. Just because one of the people who stabbed him is behind bars and he is buried, believe me, no-one will rest untill real justice is served. This fight will continue until that day comes, then Martin will rest in peace. It seems to me that a lot of poeple think the case is closed but its far from it, put yourself in a similar situation and think if it was a loved one of yours would you not do all you could if there was so many unanswered questions. Think about it.
#51
Chona, id like to bring up what you said on page 37 your quote is

- maybe god said martin you are hurting too much people now its time to get you now, so i think he deserve his death.-

What god would say that,? ? do you worship the devil ? ?
#52
Every trick in the books coming out now, Your english has got good, is that your english husband talking aswel now ? Martin never touched his wife  - fact. But after everything else you have accused him of , its just another lie to add to the rest of your alligations, i mean your trying to justify his murder, does that make you feel better ? Dont think for one minute anyone reading your crap believes it, even an outsider to this would never agree that anyone deseves to die this way. Have some respect.
#53
Well Chona lets face it you are going to write about Martin the way you are its so obvious you are Margie his wife and as for your Friend Jenny thats your sister who lives in Liverpool. Durr !!!! . We were all wondering how long it would take for you to rear your head, Martin cant speak or defend himself now so his real friends will. So Margie - ( Gee Gee) if your grieving so badly and are so innocent how could you write about him in such a cruel and evil way. ? ? ?
#54
My condolances to Charles Maxwells family and friends,the 2nd British man murdered . Hopefully this case is not as corrupt as Martins.
#55
Ive just been listerning to a liverpool radio station and theres so many poor familys still to this day fighting for justice for the 96 people who died at Hillsborough,20 years ago tomorrow. It goes to show that the family of anyone who dies and justice is not served cannot ever rest and i am sure Martin Williams Hawthornes family will not ever rest until true justice is served no matter how long that takes.
#56
HELLO ! ! Why is this bitch not locked up ? She would be if she lived anywhere else.
#57
What will it take to make the arrested talk and tell the truth about the real people behind Martins murder ? Is it money ? What was the price they got paid ? What if someone was to double there money ? Would these people then talk ? Just a thought.
#58
Can anyone translate the above 6 comments ? Thankyou.
#59
People like myself reading this and who know how the british justice sytem works all know that the arrest of the killers wont be the end of this matter. The phillapeans may think this case is closed but i do believe the british authorities will be doing their own investigations, it will be a long hard slog, but if i know the british people they will find the true killers, its so obvious to everyone who is behind this, it will take time, but the british dont give up.
MARK MY WORDS !
#60
Dont think the maldives are on my list,i am going to bide my time i am willing to give your legal sytem chance to prove themselves,because if they do come up trumps and real justice is served. i could start to feel safe agian.
#61
I have been reading this story with much interest, as i am also a wealthy person who was planning on buliding a hotel near to the new airport thats planned to be built in bohol. After many days contemplating i have decided against any investment in the area. We feel safe in most counties around the world we abide by the laws, but there a few people in this county who  think they are above the law and take it into ther own hands. Its so obvious the real killers of martin think they can get away with this, it is an insult to your counrty and to your government.  If they are allowed to get away with this how is anyone ment to feel safe. Something must be done and the laws changed to protect people. who want to invest there money there. MY condolances to martins family and friends. x