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lami i adto ug cruise sa Alaska pero ingon sila mahal daw kaau. wala pa sad ko kapangutana ug unsa gyud kamahal.

maka enganyo sad ang makit-an nato sa TV...bao lang sad kung ingana ba ka nindot inig abot na didto.


Makes sense nga naa incentive para mo puyo ug Alaska, laliman ba gud pud ka ug 20 hrs of night or 20 hrs of day ba to ? alas 10 nas gabii, gasiga gihapon ang adlaw..dili gyud ko katulog inganang istoryaha, magsiga sad akong mata. heheheh !

QuoteAt the last week of the presidential campaign, Arnold the California Governor spoke in one of McCain's campaign.  He was obviously anti-Obama but how come he is now proposing to increase sales taxes in California and furlough one day each month all state employees to result in a pay cut of 5 per cent.  Not only that, he will eliminate two national holidays, commute overtime to vacation leaves, etc.  These are some measures he deemed right at this state of financial crisis.  If Obama is inheriting an economy which is so healthy, I don't think he would even think of mentioning tax increase during the very critical presidential campaign.

I heard something about this during coffeebreak. Havent read the whole story though.

Last time I visited California was in 2005. the sales tax at the mall was 8% or maybe it was 9% not sure, gave me a little shock. The tolls we $6, which was another "yikes" moment for me since at that time, I was living in florida, with just 6%  tax and our tolls were 50 cents, 75 cents, $1.50 at the most.

Glad I'm in Texas. Or maybe I'm just behind in the news. no sales taxes going up (as of 2 hours ago, i got sandwich bread) , homes are still selling and investors are going nuts investing in rental houses.  No activity in the normal folks though, just the very rich (meaning those who can afford $1M++ homes and the ones who have enough to invest.  Investors in my market, ones that can afford 20% down, or in a $30k foreclosure rental property, $6k. not rich by a long shot, just gutsy. Those foreclosures came down from $50k to $30 but appraisals went down anywhere from $10k to $20k though.

Guess we'll just hang on tight and see what happens. If worse gets to worse, it'll be home sweet home Bohol for me (if I have enough to buy a ticket hahaha !)   been a while since I last visited too..

QuoteOne of those people interviewed after Obama won in the election, she said she didn't vote for Obama but for the sake of her country, she will help and pray that Obama will be true to his promises and that he will be able to save her country from misery brought about by economic collapse, wars, among other things.  That's hoping for the best.  That's remarkable to me!

Hopefully, (since there's nothing we can do about it now), things won't be as bad and he can actually do some good. For myself, I try hard to take care of myself and my family. I only need the government to take care of my country, or in this case, where I live.  Case in point, terrorist attacks.

Also, I hope he won't be as naive as he has displayed in the campaign period. because if he is, we're...well, to put it mildly, in deep poo-poo.


Ate Ging, after meeting a lot of people online, I'm just cautious, a lot of people are not as level headed as you.  As you said, we're both set in what we believe in and we have our reasons, lets leave it at that.


For Lorenzo,    Funny thought ... If most Pinoys would like to control who to give their money to, they'd just set up charities in the Philippines, benefiting Filipino charities. Afterall, as an individual, your tax rate is based on your Adjusted Income...that is net of all charitable donations you have given out.

But then again, this isnt an original idea, the wealthy have already set up their tax shelters all over the world. I guess that leaves the ones who are not quite wealthy yet, but just in that threshold to really hurt in the tax revamp. 


Oh your friend with the Ferrari ? if he's paid his taxes already , let him have his toy, he worked for it.  As long as he pays the right taxes, I don't care. Now tax evasion , he can go to jail for that. I don't think he meant tax evasion, probably doesnt want his taxes any higher but willing to pay the taxes that he has right now. There has to be some reward after a long days work, right ? mine's a bar of chocolate..some people...well...to each his own. 

Lorenzo, I had a looooong thought out post from my quote earlier about people making 250k already paying taxes that they are supposed to pay, but somehow, when I hit post, it disappeared. I'm too braindead from work to redo all of that, but Yes, he is already the president, nothing we can do about it but hope for the best.

Quote from: Lorenzo on November 08, 2008, 10:47:42 AM

Ging,

You do have a point about the small businesses, however, the majority of Americans are of the middle class, of the working class. The average American makes no more than $50,000 a year. The middle class, by right, is the workhorse of the United States economy. They bear the brunt of the taxes initiated by government. And they do pay taxes; the point of the tax revamp, is to provide breathing space for the already taxed-out middle class Americans.

Those who earn more than $250,000 a year are now clamoring for no taxes? For over 8 years they have enjoyed the tax breaks of Bush, and these said tax breaks were initiated to support the failed Bush economic policy of 'Trickle Down Effect'.

Preposterous. It has done nothing for our economy; aside from excessive military spending, continued exporting of American Jobs to foreign countries at the EXPENSE of the American Middle Class. Failure.

These so called tax breaks for the wealthy elite have done nothing; clearly it is evident that the main engine of the American economic system is the American Middle Class. You want to stimulate the economy? Give him tax cuts and he will spend it on the market; as the middle class is the target consumer.


If you are an attorney who makes more than $400,000 a year, or a physician/surgeon who earns more than $1,500,000 a year, or a business owner who grosses more than $800,000, then you can afford some taxes.

The middle class is the work horse of this country. The majority of Americans are of the middle class.

Additionally, even if a nurse makes $30-60 an hour, he or she will not hit over $250,000 a year. Perhaps if there are two nurses working together, but individually no. That is the salary range of a starting attending-physician.

Lastly...promise...human na jud ko after ani.


Yes, its unfair to make sweeping generalizations,but I don't think you can blame me if this is what is going on in your immediate part of the world.


When I was new in the US, I loved rap and hip hop music. When you turn on the evening news, most of the crimes are commited by these kind of people. Two months ago, CNN had a special titled "Black in America". Accdg to CNN, Black Americans are 13% of the entire US population but 50% of all murders and homicides are committed to and by Black Males.

here's someone's blog :
http://theblackpoliticalreview.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/african-americans-are-50-of-all-murder-victims/

here's the CNN webby talking about it :
http://www.hvc-inc.com/clients/cnn/bia/for.html

As for my "hungihong" comment, this is what happens when we have a get together. My MIL is a nurse, my Auntie is also a nurse, I have 3 close friend nurses not related to me and 4 cousins that are nurses. Kung magsugod na gani ug complain bahin sa work, guess what, thesame feedback about their co-workers nga itum. They're not from thesame state sad and most of them havent met each other. MIL is in Florida, Auntie is in Texas, 1 friend is in North Carolina and the other two are here in Texas, My cousins are in Chicago, New York and New Jersey. Pero they say thesame things. About the babies and the lazy attitudes in the hospital.


Personal experience ? nakatilaw ko work sa Home Depot pag first pa nako diri. Ang mga babaye pwera buyag, sige lang bugno2. At least, among themselves ra sad, so that's fine.  Sa naka work nako as an accountant, diha gi fire 3 kabuok itum kay nasakpan ga "ehem" sa offis. Ahay, pait, wa ko labot ato ha. 

If you ever watch Maury Povich, they have specials about women who already gave a paternity test to 9 men and they don't know the father of their child. Unsa naman jud kabiga-on nga 9 kalaki imong gi "ehem" in that 2 week period nga fertile ka in a month ? Maka dani ug tan-aw because its so unbelievable .

Check this out :

This man is the 11th man tested for her baby's paternity test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQsrwMhFjU


This woman has had 17 men tested for her baby's paternity test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XteyzO65DQ4


Here's more funny (but sad) stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt2i0ts-uck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3rskbp3zao

Aids Baby:
http://www.avert.org/african-american-stats.htm

Interesting article :
http://www.niagara-gazette.com/opinion/local_story_284000309.html

These videos made me think :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sawN7uJ8s8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RLx05jgauU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQf1-V1Xf8

Anyway, this is not against you Ate Ging. We have different views and opinions because we have different lives. Who  knows, when we get to know each other better, we might even like to hang out with each other.   This is just my views about him  and I know yours is different as well. Please don't think I mean any disrespect by this.  You implied you wanted facts so i'm giving you the most I can dredge up at the  moment. :-)

As for being christian and muslim at thesame time. I'm catholic, hubby is Episcopalian, i have baptist, lutheran, methodist, and even INC, yeps bisan diri sa Texas naay INC. Hubby goes to catholic church with me every sunday. I sometimes go with my friends to baptist church, I've even been to Mormon church since I have friends there too. My point is that, Obama CAN be a muslim and go to a Christian church.  You can be both, you know. You don't have to renounce your  muslim fate to become a christian, nobody would ever know, unless you're a public figure.

The biggest thing with Wright was that Obama had named him his spiritual adviser.  (fox news) Kung sa Bohol pa na, would we elect a governor nga iyang adviser hates bohol and ingon pa si Wright "not god bless america, god damn america" , ug ingani sa bohol , would you support him ? hypothetical lang gud, butang ta atong mayor, ug iyang ka-close nga adviser would say "dili God bless Tagbilaran kundi , I-sumpa sa Ginoo ning Tagbilaran." Dili kaha ta maghuna-huna ? For me, our leaders are there to protect us, even if I'm not an American, but I live here so I also expect that the leaders of this country are going to protect this land.  Unsaon nalang if our leaders don't love our country, bisan ma PInas pa...well, kita bitaw tawn ta unsa nahitabo sa PIlipinas. Atong mga lideron gikan sa dis-a dapit diri sa gawas unya ni uli sa ato para mo-lansad.  It gets back to my point ganina sa vested interest.   If you don't have any attachments, dili gyud kintahay bug-at sa imong dughan. Ah basta, sabta nalang.

Here's a clip of Michelle Obama.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WNGjawtP48

Hinuon, gibawi kunuhay niya, pero freudian slip, nigawas na tawn... (ako lang pud ni ha)



Wala lang... As a Filipino, I would like our President to be Maka-Pinoy no. 1, As someone living in America, It would be nice if our President here too is Maka-America No. 1. After all, they are our leader, our champion....and ga balik-balik nasad ko. Ahak !

His association with terrorists is not thesame as you befriending criminals in an act of mercy. Do you invite them to your home and have dinner with them ? dili nang pista ha, kana bang inato, family affair lang. That kind of closeness.  I'm sure, if I looked hard enough, naa sad ko mga friends siguro nga considered less than nice. I mean, akong ex bf mismo nga dugay2 sad mi ato. Last nakong chismis sa akong friend nga pulis diha sa tagbi, ingon siya akong ex daw main suspect nila nga leader sa usa sa mga gang. NGIK!  hinuon, sa kami pa, bun-og man ko niya, mao bitaw nagbulag. Pero enough about that, akong point ani is, Its different if you know people  casually lang. Lahi na na nga istorya kung suod mo, outside of work, or outside of charity work.


hala, gapa labi gyud ko... hehehe



Drug use... basin this is idealistic, but maybe not. The man is going to be the president of the biggest economy in the world, when you're in high school in the US, you are 15-18 yrs old, dili preha sa ato nga 13-16. Meaning, naa na itawn silay buot. He showed bad judgement then and when Russia invaded Georgia, he didnt have any judgement, but changed his story 3 times. (Fox news). I know, you gotta give the guy a chance, pero as I've said time and time again, "the lesser evil"...naa pa jud ko pahabol,  Why would we settle when we have another choice ? Preha ra gud na if we're picking out a pig for our fiesta lechon. ngano kadto mang niwang nga naa may tambok, preha ra man ug presyo ? 

As nice as it sounds that we all say he's changed. We should give everyone a chance, if we had a better choice would we pick him ? back to our hometown, if we had two candidates, one has a clean record, the other has a murky past, di ba, automatic adto jud ta sa nindot ug record ?  We put our leaders in pedestals gud. we look up to them. How can we look up to them kung maglisod ta ug hangad nila ? figuratively lang gud pud.. its a personal matter, but maybe because my ex boyfriend who beat me up and always promised he's gonna changed never did. the effects of drug abuse... worst thing was that I didnt even know he was a druggie until we broke up. He said he didnt do drugs anymore when we were together, but it was a lie...u know na, everything comes out when you've split already. Ok, so this is a personal issue, I don't trust druggies, past and present.

So logically, who should we believe ? people caught up in the "cause of the moment" ? or people who really have a vested interest in war or no war ? either way, it wont affect the northern students, but the southern students see that fighting back is the only way to stop the violence.

Personally, I have family in mindanao and the things they don't tell us that are happening are just plain atrocious. So I am inclined to support the war. Because I trust my family who have no reason to lie to me.


Why is this related, well, Ate Ging, are you in the US ? do you have family that live here ? I hope this does not come out the wrong way, the only reason I ask is that, Do you have a vested interest in the future or the way of life here in the US ? Because if you do or don't that changes your perspective a little. If I am living in the Philippines right now and my life won't be affected, I couldnt care less about  the US economy, I don't think I will go for a conservative old man, but probably support Obama because he seems to be the charismatic popular choice...but since I am here, I support "the lesser evil". McCain won't be my first choice, I just don't believe in Obama.


My point with his being an illegitimate child was this : he should be more grateful that everything he has ever had in his life, except for the color of his skin was given to him by his white family. Yes, he mentions that side of the family, but how often really ?  I know in Politics, you have to capitalize on what you have, but c'mon, minimizing the other half of him ? You don't hear him campagning and reaching out to Caucasian communities, but all you see on the news, FOX news ( I don't watch CNN or NBC since they are largely democratic and biased) is that most of his programs   are geared towards welfare and basically making life easier for those people who are already doing nothing. That is unfair to those of us who actually get up at the crack of dawn to work for everything we've got.

watch this , a typical Obama supporter here in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agAvKP-NnjU


As for the tax, with all due respect Ging, most small businesses here do make $250k above. Its not considered rich. BUT, that $250k is just gross income, expenses, salary etc still has to come out of that. So if taxes are raised on small business, all they can do to survive is 2 things, pass the cost to the consumer, or terminate an employee. That will result in a rise in uneployment and a higher cost of goods. If more small companies go belly up, there will be no competition in the market and you know the rest. basic economics. So we really need tax breaks for those people who are trying. I mean, think about it, would you be all ambitious and get up every morning to work hard if you know that as soon as you hit that $250k mark, your taxes will automatically go up? its easy to get there specially with a lot of our fellow pinoy nurses who work 2-3 hospitals at $30-$60/hr.

I can see the how people making below $50k won't be taxed or the tax credits, it would be ideal and it would be nice. Might surprise you to note, I actually do listen to the other side. But, even in our beloved homeland, Do you really think they can push that into fruition ? Seriously, in both countries, when we talk of higher taxes, it becomes a reality almost instantly, but tax cuts in this magnitude ? I don't think it will happen in the next 4 years. In fact, not holding my breath for it. 

Then you'd argue, what about tax cuts for businesses. Well, a lot of businesses pay a lot of money into supporting their candidates, the big ones at least, so its easier for them to get a tax cut. The average person here, heck, we don't give to political campaigns, we need our money for ourselves than give it to to people who already have it, so there goes the motivation. I mean, if it was you, would you work harder for a paying job or a job that doesnt pay you anything ? :-)


As to his religion, different sources, different things. I've personally seen fox news, you tube (if it wasnt pulled yet) and wikipedia (not sure about this one ha) , Apparently, our boy was once very proud of his muslim religion prior to 9/11, then he just shusshed. I mean, ikaw ba pud, ma proud ba diay sad ka after ana. I know not all  muslims are bad. But just humor me nalang gud, personally, mahadlok jud ko ug muslim. 1 because of our very own Abu Sayyaf in Mindanao and 2, my brother in law is in the US marines. if I start with how the muslims in the middle east torture their own people, it will take all day. Just go to www.Ogrish.com . it gave me the chills.

Also, in a poll on Fox, the Iranian president, Kim jong il  and Hugo Chavez actually prefers Obama. Again people, ayaw sa kasuko. As I've said, McCain is not my first choice, but since they like Obama, I don't like him . What does this imply, they think that Obama is a weakling. In fairness, he doesnt have the war experience Mccain has, He doesnt have a child in the military like McCain, Palin and Biden have. But what is scary about this is that, if they think that he is "b***t" (sa ato pang binugoy nga language), we will be looking at another possible terrorist attack.  And we won't know where its gonna be coming from.  Mura ba ug "gulat-gulat" sa ato. Di ba, naa ubang taw nga mokuyos lang, mao na maoy sigehan ug sug-sug or maoy kalingawan, pero tong dili gani ma 'gulat", wala gyud manghilabot ? ingana ra gud sad akong point.

Quote from: grazie7y on November 08, 2008, 12:06:07 AM
Hello Ging!  First of, welcome to Tubag Bohol.  Secondly, tukayo bya ta kay Ging pod akong pet name. 

Now on your comments about Obama, ask lang ko, asa ka gikan ana na info? 

Dili man pina angkan si Obama sa iyang Kenyan father. He is a legitimate son of a legitimate married couple.  His parents married in 1961 and divorced in 1964.  But if he was, so what?  Ingon ka na "wala na kaayo sya ning angkon sa iyang katunga na pagkaputi", eh unsaon man na pag angkon enough na from the very beginning, he said na man na his mother, grandparents are white as white can be although naa na silay trace of Irish and German blood.  Ato lang siguro impression na gipaka dak-an nya ang iyang pagka itom kay that's the color of his skin.  Bitaw, maguwang ra bya gamay iyang ka itom sa color sa akon skin oi!


Raising tax.  Complicated kaayo ang taxation but just a little insight.  Dato does not mean small businesses.  He was going to increase taxes for, if I am not mistaken additional of 4%  for those earning more than 250k a year.  Currently, this bracket - the top bracket is taxed 35% so mamahimo na dayong 39% ang tax.  That was the same rate back in previous administrations.  With the reduction, those earning below 250k, naay tax break like 500 dollars per worker tax credit and 4k tax credit per child in college unya those earning below 50k a year, dili sila ma tax.  Same man pod sa ato diha naay dili i tax kon ubos na jud kaayo ang income kay unsa pa man tawon mabilin.  So I don't think matawag na nato'g kawaton para ihatag sa mga itom na tapulan or however you phrased it.  It's wrong to generalize people just because of the color of their skin.  Pareho ra tanan color atong dugo or basin naay uban lahi ang color?

As to his religion, ingon ni ms da binsi, so what if he is a Muslim?  From time to time, I remind myself that being a Muslim is not equivalent to Bin Laden.  Anyway, the fact is that he isn't a Muslim (again, not that there's anything wrong with that!). Obama was castigated  for his involvement with Christian preacher Jeremiah Wright, the pastor who spoke strongly about America.  Kay ngano daw?  Kay pastor lagi daw ni Obama.  Kini daw si Pastor Jeremiah Wright, mao daw ni na Pastor na nagkasal ni Obama ug Michelle and baptized their two girls.  So how can he be a Muslim and at the same time attend Christian church?

His alleged association with the terrorists.  His opponents counted two or three or maybe four people associated with Obama that has link to terrorist movements. Do we have to ask first before we sit with people what their political or social affiliations are?   I "associated" with criminals in Muntinlupa as my "act of mercy" stuff.  Does it make me criminal as well?  Or, lahi na sya pagka interpret nko?  Di ko ka gets. 

His drug use when he was in high school.  I can only be thankful that I didn't have youthful indiscretions like that but other kids deal with life differently. Well, somebody challenged me to use marijuana back in high school pero grabeh akong fear ma kastiguhan sa akong amahan! hahaha  Bitaw, his parents divorced, mother moved to Indonesia, etc.  That's too much for other kids to handle.  Well, I don't want to sound like I am justifying but that's the way things were.  We all make mistakes and it will continue to be a mistake if we don't see it as such.  Obama did.  At that time, Obama did not have a foresight that he was becoming a president otherwise he didn't do that kay nah batikoson jud sya!  The important thing is that he turned his life around and became a decent person.  In fact he is now the 44th US President!

Ay hungihong ra diay nimo ning imong gi comments dire?  Sige, share lang pod ko sa akong points of view which are based on facts.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts here!

Thanks for the Welcome.

Let me start this with a small story from college.

Back when I was in manila, Erap declared all out war in mindanao. In my college that was a big controversial thing. A lot of the northern students, meaning Tagalogs, Ilokanos etc rallied "NO TO WAR". They haven't been to mindanao, can't even point Davao in a map, and don't have any vested interest in mindanao.

The Southern students who actually grew up in Mindanao rallied "YES TO WAR". They have lived there, the muslims have destroyed their homes, their farms, their livelihoods, their families etc.

Ako lang pikas-pikason akong post oi kay dili man mopilit ug kas-a hon.

Pabaga ra ni ug nawong ning ako. 

Naa ko interview with DYTR tonight with Kuya Ed Tumanda, 7pm Bohol time. AM radio not FM.



ehemmm.... wala lang gud...pabaga ra ni. 

Ahak nas Obama oi, sorry lang gyud, galagot lang ko ga-huna2.

gi-pa angkan ra siya sa iyang amahan nga negro, tanang naiya sa kinabuhi, gihatag sa iyang PUTI nga inahan, ug PUTI nga Lolo ug Lola, pero sa dihang ni sikat na siya, wala na siya mo angkon pag-ayo sa iyang katunga nga pagka puti, gipalabi ang pagka itum para kunuhay humot siya sa kadaghanan nga wala nagbasa or nag research ba kunuhay sa internet. Hipokritong dako.

Hinuon, guwangers naman si McCain, pero mas ok nako nang chikstirada nga ex-military pagka president, kesa  muslim, prends sa mga terrorist ug adoy2 sauna. (www.wikipedia.com )


Isa pa, kung iyang i-tax ang mga tao nga dato2 diri, kasagaran ra ba, small business. Sus Luoy ang daghan nga mga pinoy caregivers, ma lay off intawn. Alangan man, ug modako ang gasto sa business, di mang lay-off sila. Mo gamay na ang hiring ug import, ug dili man gani mang lay-off, mo gamay mga sweldo. Unsaon nalang ang mga pamilya sa pinas nga gipa skwela kung mogamay sweldo ni Mama, Papa, Ate, Kuya nga naa diri sa US. mas ok nalang ang pay cut kesa lay off gyud..sus pait. Maau man ug mga itum ta kay pwede ta magsalig sa gubyerno, saon pinoy man ta. diri, ang mga itum ra gipalabi kung tabang sa gubyerno hisgutan. bisan unsa ka pa nga color, pinoy, puti, mexican, insik, vietnamese ug uban pa, dili ka ispisyal kung dili ka itum.

Unsaon, wala naman tay mahimo ani...kayod lang ta.

Ug gusto niya kawaton ang atong kwarta nga hinagu-an...para panghatag sa mga tapulan nga itum sa daplin2 kilid2...aw...mao nay gi-ingon nga motambok ang mga banko sa PIlipinas kay ana naman ipadala tanan savings sa mga fil-am diri, kung maau sila mag huna2.

Ok ra nako i-tax ko...pero pls lang, wala man gani ko nakatabang sa tanan nakong parente nga uyamot, ihatag ba naman akong kwarta sa mga itum nga pagkang tapulana. dili ni racist ako-a ha, pero sa tinuoray lang sa hospital, ingon akong mga ig-agaw, tanan daw baby nga born with hiv/aids, itum, halos daw tanan bata nga drug baby, kana ba abnormal ga kurog2, itum sad daw.  halos daw pud tanan itum nga nanay sa hospital, wala kabalo kinsa tatay sa ilang bata. Dili ni akong facts ha, sa mga hungihong ra intawn ning ako...pero wala man sila rason mamakak nako sa assume lang ko tinuod ni.

humble opinion lang gud ni ako ha ..no violent reactions pls. ako ako ra sad ni.