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#53301
26 minutes ago



LONDON (AFP) - Chinese computer hackers are infiltrating British government networks, giving them access to secret information, according to media reports on Thursday.

The reports in The Times and The Independent newspapers come a day after US President George W. Bush said he may bring up the issue of suspected Chinese cyber-attacks on the US defence department in a meeting with China's President Hu Jintao.

"China is engaged in hostile intelligence activities, and instead of using the old-fashioned methods, they are focusing on electronic means to hack into systems to discover Britain's defence and foreign policy secrets, and they are technologically pretty advanced and adept at it," an unnamed government source told The Times.

Another senior government source, meanwhile, told The Independent: "Governments throughout the West have been aware of this for a number of years. It has been an ongoing practice by the Chinese. They are trying it all the time. The firewalls that need to go in are going in."

Both the Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defence have declined to comment on the reports.

In Washington, the Pentagon said Tuesday that several nations and groups were trying to break into the US military's computer system after the Financial Times reported China's military had successfully hacked into the network in June.

Unanmed officials told the Financial Times the attack was by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) and that it led to the shutdown of a computer system serving the office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
#53302
World Daily News / Re: Nuclear Error
September 06, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
hope they dont blow us up..
#53303
General Topic / Re: Most Hated Pinay
September 06, 2007, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: Gervistill on September 05, 2007, 05:59:25 PM

wow...litson :-*

omgg..lmfao! miss piggy? hahahahahahahahahahahah...
#53304
hahahahahahahahhaa!! oo olitaw na si kaiser--3 yrs na siya--sige, pa ila ila atong iro. hala ka...kan un jud na si anna ni kaiser ;) hahahaha

"older da berry--sweeter da juice" as the old saying says.
#53305
Sige Bambi, good night and see you sometime tomorrow then!

#53306
Philippine History / Re: Onicul is now a Hero in Bohol
September 06, 2007, 03:06:06 PM
**takes out harmonica**

hahahahahaha
#53307
Travel and Tours / Re: Bohol Sites
September 06, 2007, 03:03:47 PM
Sir C2H4,

Taga asa man ka? Wa man ka ning introduce sa namo---'sa man imuhang ngan, sir?
#53308
hahaha, mao mana ahong pangalan, pre.

***bows***

Pleasure to meet you--
#53309
World Daily News / Re: Italian tenor Pavarotti is dead
September 06, 2007, 02:58:56 PM
you should definately encourage your daughter to kanta-kanta, gerv...who knows, she's probably gifted with the power of a musical voice.


My respects to Mr. Luciano Pavarotti.

Il dio li benedice Luciano Pavarotti! Buon Lavoro! Lavoro Grande! Bravo! Bravo! Un lavoro fatto bene nella vita -- ora vada a cielo ed a resto con il signore di vita. Amen!
#53310
World Daily News / Re: Italian tenor Pavarotti is dead
September 06, 2007, 02:50:46 PM
;) beautiful tastes in music, gerv. hahahaha you like tonight also? talk about smooth and savvy....:D

His rendition of Ave Maria is....close to perfection....and made me cry more than once...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrmYXsujI
#53311
Congrats Leo!!!!
#53312
Bambiiii!!! Congratsss PRE!!! Now we can e-celebrate in here..hahaha

****parties like a rockstar****

Congrats lagi pre! See ya in da forums.

PS. MORE POWER TO YA!!  ;D :-*
#53313
Philippine History / Re: Onicul is now a Hero in Bohol
September 06, 2007, 02:46:17 PM
^ OF course! ii halikan ko--then i might give you some secrets ;)

lol
#53314
Introduce Yourself / Re: Boholana by blood
September 06, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Bambi!! congrats pre for your moderatorship!
#53315
World Daily News / Re: Italian tenor Pavarotti is dead
September 06, 2007, 02:41:14 PM
Its still hard for me to digest that he's gone; he always seemed the 'immortal' type...
I'll always remember him for his performance in " I Hate You Then I Love You" in a duo with Celine Dione.

heres a link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E7MeL2C8eb0
#53316
Quote from: C2H4 on September 06, 2007, 01:50:06 PM
Anna -- bag-o pa na mata, gi muta, wala'y ligo LOL



oiii! cuuuuuuuuuuute ba jud!! lami i kusi-oon..hahaha.
#53317
World Daily News / Re: Italian tenor Pavarotti is dead
September 06, 2007, 02:32:13 PM
Na matay na jud siya. One of the greatest singers of all time...has passed away...
#53318
World Daily News / Italian tenor Pavarotti is dead
September 06, 2007, 02:26:54 PM
By ALESSANDRA RIZZO, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 12 minutes ago



ROME - Luciano Pavarotti, whose vibrant high C's and ebullient showmanship made him one of the world's most beloved tenors, died Thursday, his manager told The Associated Press. He was 71.

His manager, Terri Robson, told the AP in an e-mailed statement that Pavarotti died at his home in Modena, Italy, at 5 a.m. local time. Pavarotti had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last year and underwent further treatment in August.

"The Maestro fought a long, tough battle against the pancreatic cancer which eventually took his life. In fitting with the approach that characterised his life and work, he remained positive until finally succumbing to the last stages of his illness," the statement said.

For serious fans, the unforced beauty and thrilling urgency of Pavarotti's voice made him the ideal interpreter of the Italian lyric repertory, especially in the 1960s and '70s when he first achieved stardom. For millions more, his charismatic performances of standards like "Nessun dorma" from Puccini's "Turandot" came to represent what opera is all about.

Instantly recognizable from his charcoal black beard and tuxedo-busting girth, Pavarotti radiated an intangible magic that helped him win hearts in a way Placido Domingo and Jose Carreras â€" his partners in the "Three Tenors" concerts â€" never quite could.

"I always admired the God-given glory of his voice â€" that unmistakable special timbre from the bottom up to the very top of the tenor range," Domingo said in a statement from Los Angeles.

"I also loved his wonderful sense of humor and on several occasions of our concerts with Jose Carreras â€" the so-called Three Tenors concerts â€" we had trouble remembering that we were giving a concert before a paying audience, because we had so much fun between ourselves," he said.

The tenor, who seemed equally at ease singing with soprano Joan Sutherland as with the Spice Girls, scoffed at accusations that he was sacrificing his art in favor of commercialism.

"The word commercial is exactly what we want," he said, after appearing in the widely publicized "Three Tenors" concerts. "We've reached 1.5 billion people with opera. If you want to use the word commercial, or something more derogatory, we don't care. Use whatever you want."

In the annals of that rare and coddled breed, the operatic tenor, it may well be said the 20th century began with Enrico Caruso and ended with Pavarotti. Other tenors â€" Domingo included â€" may have drawn more praise from critics for their artistic range and insights, but none could equal the combination of natural talent and personal charm that so endeared him to audiences.

"Pavarotti is the biggest superstar of all," the late New York Times music critic Harold Schonberg once said. "He's correspondingly more spoiled than anybody else. They think they can get away with anything. Thanks to the glory of his voice, he probably can."

In his heyday, he was known as the "King of the High C's" for the ease with which he tossed off difficult top notes. In fact it was his ability to hit nine glorious high C's in quick succession that first turned him into an international superstar singing Tonio's aria "Ah! Mes amis," in Donizetti's "La Fille du Regiment" at New York's Metropolitan Opera in 1972.

In the 1990s, Pavarotti's teaming with Domingo and Carreras became a music business phenomenon and spawned copycats such as the Three Irish Tenors.

Pavarotti starred in a film called "Yes, Giorgio" (though its failure scuttled his hopes for a Hollywood career) and appeared in a filmed version of "Rigoletto." He wrote an autobiography, "I, Luciano Pavarotti," and made more than 90 recordings.

From Beijing to Buenos Aires, people immediately recognized his incandescent smile and lumbering bulk, clutching a white handkerchief as he sang arias and Neapolitan folk songs, pop numbers and Christmas carols for hundreds of thousands in outdoor concerts.

His name seemed to show up as much in gossip columns as serious music reviews, particularly after he split with Adua Veroni, his wife of 35 years and mother of their three daughters, and then took up with his 26-year-old secretary in 1996.

In late 2003, he married Nicoletta Mantovani in a lavish, star-studded ceremony. Pavarotti said their daughter Alice, nearly a year old at the time of the wedding, was the main reason he and Mantovani finally wed after years together.

In the latter part of his career, some music critics cited what they saw as an increasing tendency toward the vulgar and the commercial.

He came under fire for canceling performances or pandering to the lowest common denominator in his choice of programs, or for the Three Tenors tours and their millions of dollars in fees.

He was criticized for lip-synching at a concert in Modena, Italy, his hometown. An artist accused him of copying her works from a how-to-draw book and selling the paintings.

The son of a baker who was an amateur singer, Pavarotti was born Oct. 12, 1935, in Modena. He had a meager upbringing, though he said it was rich with happiness.

"Our family had very little, but I couldn't imagine one could have any more," Pavarotti said.

As a boy, Pavarotti showed more interest in soccer than his studies, but he also was fond of listening to his father's recordings of tenor greats like Beniamino Gigli, Tito Schipa, Jussi Bjoerling and Giuseppe Di Stefano, his favorite.

Among his close childhood friends was Mirella Freni, who would eventually become a soprano and an opera great herself. The two studied singing together and years later ended up making records and concerts together, according to Elvio Giudici, an Italian opera critic.

In his teens, Pavarotti joined his father, also a tenor, in the church choir and local opera chorus. He was influenced by the American movie actor-singer Mario Lanza.

"In my teens I used to go to Mario Lanza movies and then come home and imitate him in the mirror," Pavarotti said.

Singing was still nothing more than a passion while Pavarotti trained to become a teacher and began working in a school.

But at 20, he traveled with his chorus to an international music competition in Wales. The Modena group won first place, and Pavarotti began to dedicate himself to singing.

With the encouragement of his then fiancee, Adua Veroni, he started lessons, selling insurance to pay for them. He studied with Arrigo Pola and later Ettore Campogalliani.

In 1961, Pavarotti won a local voice competition and with it a debut as Rodolfo in Puccini's "La Boheme."

He followed with a series of successes in small opera houses throughout Europe before his 1963 debut at Covent Garden in London, where he stood in for Di Stefano as Rodolfo.

Having impressed conductor Richard Bonynge, Pavarotti was given a role opposite Bonynge's wife, soprano Joan Sutherland, in a Miami production of "Lucia di Lamermoor." They subsequently signed him for a 14-week tour of Australia.

It was the recognition Pavarotti needed to launch his career. He also credited Sutherland with teaching him how to breathe correctly.

In the following years, Pavarotti made a series of major debuts, appearing at La Scala in Milan in 1965, San Francisco in 1967 and New York's Metropolitan Opera House in 1968. Other early venues included Vienna, Paris and Chicago.

Throughout his career, Pavarotti struggled with a much-publicized weight problem. His love of food caused him to balloon to a reported high of 396 pounds in 1978.

"Maybe this time I'll really do it and keep it up," he said during one of his constant attempts at dieting.

Pavarotti, who had been trained as a lyric tenor, began taking on heavier dramatic tenor roles, such as Manrico in Verdi's "Trovatore" and the title role in "Otello."

Pavarotti often drew comparisons with Domingo, his most notable contemporary. Aficionados judged Domingo the more complete and consistent musician, but he never captured the public imagination like Pavarotti.

Though there appeared to be professional jealousy between the great singers, Pavarotti claimed he preferred to judge himself only against his earlier performances.

In the mid-1970s, Pavarotti became a true media star. He appeared in television commercials and began appearing in hugely lucrative mega-concerts outdoors and in stadiums around the world. Soon came joint concerts with pop stars. A concert in New York's Central Park in 1993 drew 500,000 fans.

Pavarotti's recording of "Volare" went platinum in 1988.

In 1990, he appeared with Domingo and Carreras in a concert at the Baths of Caracalla in Rome for the end of soccer's World Cup. The concert was a huge success, and the record known as "The Three Tenors" was a best-seller and was nominated for two Grammy awards. The video sold over 750,000 copies.

The three-tenor extravaganza became a mini-industry. With a follow-up album recorded at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles in 1994, the three have outsold every other performer of classical music. A 1996 tour earned each tenor an estimated $10 million.

Pavarotti liked to mingle with pop stars in his series of charity concerts, "Pavarotti & Friends," held annually in Modena. He performed with artists as varied as Ricky Martin, James Brown and the Spice Girls.

The performances raised some eyebrows but he always shrugged off the criticism.

Some say the "word pop is a derogatory word to say 'not important' â€" I do not accept that," Pavarotti said in a 2004 interview with the AP. "If the word classic is the word to say 'boring,' I do not accept. There is good and bad music."

It was not just his annual extravaganza that saw Pavarotti involved in humanitarian work.

During the 1992-95 Bosnia war, he collected humanitarian aid along with U2 lead singer Bono, and after the war he financed and established the Pavarotti Music Center in the southern city of Mostar to offer Bosnia's artists the opportunity to develop their skills.

He performed at benefit concerts to raise money for victims of tragedies such as an earthquake in December 1988 that killed 25,000 people in northern Armenia.

Pavarotti was also dogged by accusations of tax evasion, and in 2000 he agreed to pay nearly roughly $12 million to the Italian state after he had unsuccessfully claimed that the tax haven of Monte Carlo rather than Italy was his official residence.

He had been accused in 1996 of filing false tax returns for 1989-91.

Pavarotti always denied wrongdoing, saying he paid taxes wherever he performed. But, upon agreeing to the settlement, he said: "I cannot live being thought not a good person."

Pavarotti was preparing to leave New York in July 2006 to resume a farewell tour when doctors discovered a malignant pancreatic mass, his manager Terri Robson said at the time. He underwent surgery in a New York hospital, and all his remaining 2006 concerts were canceled.

Pancreatic cancer is one of the most dangerous forms of the disease, though doctors said the surgery offered improved hopes for survival.

"I was a fortunate and happy man," Pavarotti told Italian daily Corriere della Sera in an interview published about a month after the surgery. "After that, this blow arrived."

"And now I am paying the penalty for this fortune and happiness," he told the newspaper.

Fans were still waiting for a public appearance a year after his surgery. In the summer of 2007, Pavarotti taught a group of selected students and worked on a recording of sacred songs, a work expected to be released in early 2008, according to his manager. He mostly divided his time between his home town, Modena, and his villa in the Adriatic seaside resort of Pesaro.

Faced with speculation that the tenor was near death, Mantovani, his second wife, told Italian newspaper La Stampa in July 2007: "He's fighting like a lion and he has never lost his heart."

Pavarotti had three daughters with his first wife, Lorenza, Cristina and Giuliana; and one, Alice, with his second wife.
#53319
World Daily News / UN chief 'shocked' by Darfur camp
September 06, 2007, 02:22:47 PM
By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer
Wed Sep 5, 9:25 PM ET



EL FASHER, Sudan - U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he was "shocked and humbled" by a visit to a Darfur refugee camp, where thousands cheered him as he pledged to step up efforts to bring peace to the war-torn region.

But the enthusiastic welcome from refugees at the Al Salaam camp on Wednesday was tempered by the earlier disruption of a meeting at a U.N. compound with camp representatives, and by a small protest against the upcoming deployment of U.N. troops in a new 26,000-strong peacekeeping force in Darfur.

The secretary-general brushed aside the protests, saying he understands the frustrations of the millions uprooted from their homes, and he pointed to the huge crowds that had come to see him in Darfur and in Juba, the capital of South Sudan, on his first trip to the country since taking the reins of the United Nations on Jan. 1.

"They really wanted to see some hope from me, from the United Nations, from the international community," he said.

But Wednesday's incidents had an impact. Ban met with only three of the 30 camp representatives, his scheduled one-hour visit to Al Salaam was cut to 20 minutes, and the media pool accompanying him was cut from 37 to 5 because of security concerns.

As Ban's convoy rolled into the camp, home to 46,000 Darfur refugees, thousands chanted "Welcome! Welcome Ban Ki-moon!"

"We must bring peace and development. We must protect human rights. We must help all of you return to your homes and lands," Ban told the crowd.

Later, he told reporters: "I was so shocked and humbled. ... I was shocked at the poverty and hardship all these tens of thousands of people were undergoing."

Ban promised to step up efforts to end the protracted conflict that has killed more than 200,000 people and left more than 2.5 million displaced, and he urged the world to be more sympathetic to the millions whose lives have been uprooted.

"I really urge the international community to help them return to their homes and land, give them a sense of security and bring peace as soon as possible. We must bring enduring peace, durable peace and security here," he said.

Ban said he would raise these issues, and the protest, during a second round of talks Thursday with Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir.

The scene at the camp contrasted with Ban's visit earlier Wednesday to the U.N. compound in El Fasher, the capital of North Darfur.

Ban told reporters there was "some serious concern" when an univited group of men and women tried to push through the door to participate in the meeting with representatives of three camps for people uprooted from their homes. Security is exceedingly tight in Sudan, and it is unclear how they got so close to the secretary-general.

"We don't care for UN! This is our country!" a group of bejeweled women in high heels shouted in Arabic at the gates of the U.N. compound, in what appeared to be an orchestrated event. "You want to destroy us! We will not allow you here in Darfur!"

In recent weeks, the Sudanese government has stepped up a campaign to have Darfurians in the camps voluntarily return home. But a key concern keeping the millions of refugees from leaving the camps is lack of security â€" a main reason for the deployment of the U.N.-African Union force.

During Ban's stop at the compound of the North Darfur governor, a man who identified himself to the Sudanese media as Ahmed Mohamed Ahmed gave Ban a letter urging the United Nations to help returning Darfur refugees resettle in their original villages.

North Darfur Governor Mohamed Kebir told reporters "many conditions are now ripe" for the voluntary return of people to their villages.

Ban said security was improving â€" but he told reporters there still is not full security and peace in Darfur so "we must continue to protect (the displaced) and provide the security," especially in the camps.

Despite speculation it would be called off, the secretary-general's brief visit to the Al Salaam camp went under tight security, but U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said there were reports of some violent clashes afterward, though she had no details.

At every opportunity, the secretary-general stressed the importance of reaching a political settlement and deploying the AU-U.N. hybrid force quickly.

He said the planned deployment of the hybrid force was now on a "good track" and "it is crucially important that a political negotiation process start now."

Ban said he will shortly announce the venue and date for new negotiations, likely in October.

AU officials who briefed Ban on Wednesday said they told him the beleaguered AU force now in Darfur has less then 6,000 peacekeepers deployed in a region nearly the size of France â€" down from its authorized strength of 7,000. AU officials said the groundwork for deploying the hybrid force is on schedule, but it is not expected to start arriving in Darfur until early next year.

#53320
By ARIEL LEON, Associated Press Writer
26 minutes ago



PUERTO CABEZAS, Nicaragua - Doctors treated storm casualties in a makeshift clinic Wednesday after powerful Hurricane Felix flooded their hospital and wrecked villages on Nicaragua's Caribbean coast. The death toll rose to at least 18 with dozens more missing.

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Far to the northwest, Hurricane Henriette plowed into Mexico for the second time in two days, making landfall shortly before 9 p.m. EDT near the port city of Guaymas with top sustained winds of 75 mph. Seven deaths were reported from the Pacific storm, which hit Baja California on Tuesday.

Felix came ashore Tuesday in Nicaragua as a Category 5 tempest packing 160 mph winds and heavy rains that caused mudslides, destroyed homes, uprooted trees and devastated villages.

Wednesday night, Nicaraguan Civil Defense Department spokesman Alvaro Rivas said the confirmed death toll had doubled to 18. Defense officials said President Daniel Ortega had put the toll at 21. There was no immediate explanation for the discrepancy.

Rivas also said at least 60 people were missing: more than 50 in the Matagalpa province in the north and another 10 around hard-hit city of Puerto Cabezas.

The dead included a man who drowned when his boat capsized, a woman killed when a tree fell on her house and a newborn who died shortly after birth because her mother couldn't get medical attention.

Among the missing were four fishermen whose small sailboat sank as Felix's center passed overhead. A survivor, Fernando Pereira, 24, said he clung to a piece of wood for 12 hours, despite a dislocated shoulder, and washed ashore at the village of Sandy Bay only hours after Felix made landfall there. He hadn't seen his friends since.

"I felt horrible," he said. "I was drinking salt water, and I thought I was going to die."

Others were caught in the sea as well. Jelivaro Climax, 22, said he had to swim through enormous waves to reach shore.

"Lightning flashed through a pitch black sky," he said. "I don't know how I survived. I swam with everything I had, and I was sure the sea would take me."

Felix swept over the Miskito Coast, an impoverished region where about 150,000 people live in jungle settlements. Their hamlets of wooden shacks and coconut groves are remote even in good weather, reachable only by air or flat-bottom boats.

The Miskitos, descendants of Indians, European settlers and African slaves, live semiautonomously, much like people on Indian reservations in the U.S.

There wasn't enough fuel after the storm for boats to make long trips, and Felix snapped steel cables that guided a small ferry carrying people and cars from Puerto Cabezas to the village of Wawahum.

Johana Aliberto Maquiave, 36, was stuck in Puerto Cabezas, trying to get back to her family in Sandy Bay, the village where the eye of the storm hit.

"I want to know what happened to my three children," she said, fighting tears. "The poor kids stayed with their dad. I am here with nothing. I came on Sunday to buy food."

The view from a flight over Sandy Bay â€" a region that includes about 10 Miskito villages, some 30 miles north of Puerto Cabezas â€" showed swathes of palm tree felled like stalks of grass, homes without roofs and building debris scattered across the tropical landscape.

Felix also wiped out crops and damaged most of the 70 tons of food and emergency goods that had been flown in before the storm.

On Wednesday, it was hard to find a building that wasn't damaged. Puerto Cabezas' hospital was filled with water, and doctors attended to the injured at an improvised clinic.

Ortega flew over the area to survey the damage. He said that the U.S. and Venezuelan offered aid and that Cuban doctors were already on the ground. Nicaragua's military flew in sheets, mattresses, food and first aid materials.

Residents hacked at fallen trees with machetes, trying to uncover the remains of their humble homes. There was very little electricity, running water or telephone service.

Larry Hansack, 38, gazed at a sea littered with splintered wood and shattered tin, wondering about his nephew, a fisherman who disappeared at sea. "There's no one to help me, and everything is disorganized," he said.

Teresa Flores, 34, rode out the storm at a neighbor's house after her wooden home collapsed, injuring her husband and 3-year-old son. Looters later took what was left.

"They took the clothes, even the barrels where we keep water," she said. "Now we have nothing to drink. We lost all our food, the television set, the microwave, even the toilet. Nothing works. We are pretty much in the street."

At one point during the storm, she tried to check on her home, but "I took a few steps and couldn't move forward. The wind said 'no.'"

The remains of Felix were still dumping rain Wednesday on Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala, and thousands of evacuees anxiously stayed away from shaky hillside slums and swollen rivers.

In San Pedro Sula, in northern Honduras, one shantytown filled with water after a river burst its bank. Police rode bulldozers to evacuate slum dwellers from water that was waist-deep and rising, but many refused to leave, fearing their remaining possessions would be stolen.

David Serato, 42, left. "Life is more important than personal belongings," he said. "If I stayed, I would die."

Many had feared a repeat of the 1998 nightmare of Hurricane Mitch, which stalled over Central America for days, causing floods and mudslides that killed nearly 11,000 people and left more than 8,000 missing.

On Mexico's western coast, Henriette moved across the Gulf of California. Its center later made its second landfall near the Mexican city of Guaymas in Sonora state, said Jack Beven, a specialist with the Miami-based center. A few hours later the Henriette was downgraded to a tropical storm as it moved inland and its sustained winds dropped to 65 mph.

Schools and ports were closed and people evacuated from low-lying areas, but the storm was expected to weaken quickly over the desert before dumping a few inches of rain Thursday on New Mexico.

Among the coastal communities sure to get drenched was San Carlos, a beach town packed with American retirees that neighbors Guaymas.

Henriette set off mudslides earlier that killed six people in Acapulco as it moved northward up Mexico's Pacific coast, and a woman drowned in high surf as the storm approached the Baja California peninula.

Mexican navy Capt. Leopoldo Mendoza said a navy helicopter was searching the Bay of La Paz for a missing boat carrying two Mexicans and two Japanese.

The storm became a hurricane just before its direct hit on the upscale desert resorts of Los Cabos on Baja's southern tip Tuesday. The luxury hotels suffered little damage, but plywood shacks in the surrounding slums were destroyed.

"Everything is soaked," said Homero Cruz Marcelino, a 28-year-old gardener who rode out the storm with his pregnant wife and son in a shack that was reduced to little more than a wooden frame. He estimated the damage at $500, a small fortune given his income.

___

Associated Press writers Freddy Cuevas in Tegicugalpa, Honduras; Filadelfo Aleman in Managua, Nicaragua; Ioan Grillo in San Pedro Sula, Honduras; Richard Jacobsen in Mexico City; and Paul Kiernan in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, contributed to this report.

#53321
Darn it, now i have to find a different provider..
#53322
post your picture online to a website like photobucket.com. When you do post the picture, click on the picture and right click on the image and scroll down to "properties" and from there just copy and past the url of the picture. Once you do---then you can enter "[ img ]your url of your picture[ /img ]"

*Note---to remember that you place your picture's url in between the codings i provided you above.

Hope that helps, C2. PM me for more help if you need any.

I wanna see your dog's picture!!!!!! Cute pood ang story of how you got Anna oi! Thank god she found you, and a great second home ;)
#53323
We have a German Sheppard, and he's named Kaiser Wilhelm..but we call him Kaiser hahaha. Got him from the Amish back in spring of 2004 when he was only 7 weeks old.


Kaiser with his toy


Whats the matter, kai kai?


rollin around...hahaha :)


Kai kai when he was 6 months old


Kai kai full grown---he's looking at me cuz i had a piece of bacon for him...hahaha


playin with his ball



Guarding our yard. I think he was watching a squirrel or something.  :P


Dad teaching him how to wade in the snow.

#53324
OOOO a chihuahua. You know..i was bit by a chihuahua one time when i was jogging. Darn thing came out of nowhere and chased me and nipped at my heels. :X

Got any pics of Anna? How old is she?
#53325
Travel and Tours / Re: Bohol Sites
September 06, 2007, 01:17:54 PM
hahaha bitaw bitaw. Mo hilak ko whenever i go away to college kay mo ingoon siya nako "Don't leave Kuya, im going to miss you..."..and mo hug pood siya...:(

Thanks for the river name, C2, i knew it started with an L...but i couldnt get my finger on the name.
#53326
So what kind of pets do you guy shave? Any dog, cat, bird, fish, lizard owners in here? Maybe share a picture of our pets too!! C'mon! Show off your pets! 
#53327
Definately Pope Benedict XVI.
#53328
More sleep and actually have time to go out with my barkadas and 'special someone' ;)
#53329
My 4th grade teacher. Mrs. Norris. She encouraged me--and motivated me to 'give it all'. Love that woman.
#53330
Philippine History / Re: Onicul is now a Hero in Bohol
September 06, 2007, 12:20:10 PM
Will do my best, Mike.
#53331
Philippine History / Re: Onicul is now a Hero in Bohol
September 06, 2007, 12:02:10 PM
Salamat, pre. Salamat C2H4 (ethylene gas) hahaha ;)
#53332
Travel and Tours / Bohol Sites
September 06, 2007, 11:57:09 AM
Okay so my parents recently went back to Bohol and took some pics--but i dont actually know the names of these areas. Can you tell me what the names of the sites are? Thanks.


My precious baby brother with cousin Forlynn with the tarsiers. But what is the name of this river?????


My cousin Forlynn, cousin Joseph, baby bro Andre, Mommy, and my uncle Romeo.
Now this is the Chocolate Hills--and its in Carmen, right?


God..how i wish i was there...


My little munchkin enjoying himself over there....  ;D

I really wish I was there tho........ :-[ :-\ :'(
#53333
Kummusta Attorney!! Regards ha!
#53334
Introduce Yourself / Re: Boholana by blood
September 06, 2007, 11:47:29 AM
Hey Mari! Welcome to Tubag Bohol!

Are you Fil-Am?
#53335
Music and Video / Romantic Song Lyrics
September 06, 2007, 11:42:39 AM
Alex To - I'm So Sorry

Ohh waa hooooo hooo hoooo
Heyyy yea
Yeah yeah yeah

Chang shing wo nai
Dow shing do wei la ay
Wo tzow zai cha
Sha sha da fa dai
Wo ren di lie
Knee chuen chuen da ay

Whooa ooo ooo

Wo shing hai tzai
Ay ni da ren da ay tzai
Ku ku tun
Shao ku ku bu chu lie
Wu shing shang hai
Ni ing guy ming bai
Ay thai dou khong shi
Shao shao rong yi
Who shing who ay tai shur won yi

Whoa ooo oooo

Dway ni da fu chu
Dou fung zai shing lee
Wo shur tzom che yum chun shi
Wo chumma wei wun chi nooo

*CHORUS*
Feel so sorry, baby I'm sorry
I never meant, I never meant to hurt you
Wo shing shang hi
ahh
Ni ing guy ming bai
Wo hooo ooo
Feel so lonely, baby I'm so lonely
Do you know, I need you to come back
Are you alright
Chien qwai dien wei li

Woo ahh hoo hooo hoo hooo hooo hoooo hoo hoooo hoo oooo oooo

Chang shing gan thai
Ying ni yo bu fan kai
Che yi shun
Che yung huh ni shang ay
You ni thong thai
Che wei ni dang dai

uuhhh

Ay shur chuen chuen
Ay shur bu huh
Bu tzai who chumma wei
Thong ku won fan
Wo chun da tai bun
Bu dong shing tun
Baby Please come back
Oh yea yea yea yea

*CHORUS*

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Beautiful jud ning song!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BcMRR9glLCQ
#53336
bugol bugol-on man jud ni si mohandis oi! hahaha palamuut jud ka pre!

@ Happy--ahh okay. Ka ingoon ko naa nang festival sa DK--thanks for correcting me tho, mare.

@Ate Hazel, unsa ma nang Roskilde Festival ? Unsay theme ana diay? Daghan ba ang cutie bajis during the event?  ;) ;) ;D :o :-* hahahahaha hook me up, 'Te!!
#53337
Philippine Airlines has increased its planned Boeing 777-300 Extended Range fleet to a total of six aircraft - four on firm order and two on lease - by exercising its purchase rights on two option airplanes that were part of the original order last year.

Last October 2006, the flag carrier came to terms with the Boeing Company on the firm order of two B777-300ER jets and purchase rights on two additional units. Separately, PAL also signed a letter of intent with GE Commercial Aviation Services for the lease of two B777-300ERs.

Deliveries will commence in the third quarter of 2009 and until 2011.

"Our future fleet of B777-300ERs will allow PAL to enhance its passenger service to the United States, while providing superior efficiency in our operations," said PAL president Jaime J. Bautista. "Our passengers will appreciate the world-class interior comfort and amenities of this high-technology aircraft."

"PAL is a very forward-looking carrier and their fleet of six B777-300ERs is a great fit to provide their customers the best in service while achieving increased efficiency in these times of high fuel prices," said Rob Laird, vice president for sales at Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "These aircraft symbolize our two companies working together for the benefit of the passenger."

The decision to acquire the B777-300ERs, PAL's first new widebody aircraft model in 12 years, signals the long-anticipated modernization of the airline's long-range fleet.

It follows on the heels of a similar upgrading of PAL's single-aisle fleet, which started last September 2006 with the arrival of the first of 20 brand-new Airbus A320-family jets. Six of those aircraft are already in service with four more are arriving this year.

The fuel-efficient B777-300ER is the world's largest long-range twin-engine jetliner and is capable of carrying up to 365 passengers in PAL's two-class configuration, at a range of up to 7,880 nautical miles (14,594 kilometers).

It will complement the Boeing 747-400, PAL's venerable flagship, on the trans-Pacific routes. PAL's widebody fleet currently comprises 17 aircraft: five B747-400s, four Airbus A340-300s and eight Airbus A330-300s.

PAL has specified a bi-class configuration for its B777-300ERs, with state-of-the-art seats and in-flight entertainment system capable of providing audio/video on-demand in both Mabuhay (business) and Fiesta (economy) classes.
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#53338
By Clarence Fernandez

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) voiced concern over unrest in Myanmar on Tuesday, its first comments after soaring fuel prices prompted rare public protests in the military-ruled nation.

But ASEAN, several of whose 10 members consider the excesses of Myanmar's military regime to have cast all of Southeast Asia in a bad light, will stop short of sending an envoy to Yangon to express its concern, Secretary-General Ong Keng Yong said.

"What we have done is to make our views known in a certain way, maybe it is not the high-profile way where we send a special envoy to go to Yangon, or to the new capital, to make a case," he told reporters in the Malaysian capital.

"But we have learnt through the last 10 years the way to work with Myanmar is to present a logical and good ASEAN position and they will find a way to answer our queries."

Myanmar's military government said on Monday it was forced to increase fuel prices this month because it could not afford the growing cost of subsidies. Diesel prices were doubled overnight and the cost of compressed natural gas surged five-fold.

Last week, Myanmar authorities arrested around 30 members of the country's main opposition party, the National League for Democracy, during protests over the price hikes, as well as 13 leading dissidents.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour has criticised the arrests, urging Myanmar authorities to immediately release the detainees and hold talks with demonstrators.

Ong warned against overreacting to the wave of arrests, however. "Immediately after the protests, the presumption is there is no wrong done by protesters, but there is all the evil-doing by the Myanmar government. Is that a fair assumption?" he said

Debbie Stothard, spokeswoman of the Alternative ASEAN Network on Burma, a group campaigning against Myanmar's membership, said the arrests were not legal, with detainees being denied trial, legal assistance and access to their families.

"In any ASEAN capital, increasing the price of fuel by 500 percent would invite sustained riots, whether it's Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta or Bangkok," Stothard told Reuters.

"ASEAN at the very least should publicly express concern over the recent developments and call for political dialogue to resolve this latest crisis," she added.

Protests spread to the oil-producing northwest on Tuesday, where 300 people, including Buddhist monks, staged a protest march in Sittwe, a local source said.

ASEAN admitted Myanmar to its fold 10 years ago and maintains that keeping the nation engaged will lead to some change, but is getting restive to see the country move towards democracy.

The grouping's ministers last month urged Myanmar to restore democracy and release political detainees, including Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi.

An estimated 1,100 political prisoners are believed to be behind bars in the former Burma. Suu Kyi, 62, has now been confined for more than 11 of the past 17 years. Her latest detention began in 2003.


Burmese military patrol the streets.


Civilian pro-democracy protesters.
#53339
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Three senior U.S. Marine Corps officers have been sanctioned in connection with the killings of 24 civilians in Haditha, Iraq, but it was determined they didn't commit any crimes, the Marine Corps said Wednesday.

"While these three officers have served their country and Corps exceedingly well for decades, their actions, inactions and decisions in the aftermath of the Haditha incident did not meet the high standards we expect of Marine senior officer leadership," Gen. James T. Conway, commandant of the Marine Corps, said in a written statement.

Maj. Gen. Richard A. Huck, former commanding general of the 2nd Marine Division; Col. Stephen W. Davis, former commanding officer of Regimental Combat Team 2, 2nd Marine Division; and Col. Robert G. Sokoloski, former chief of staff of 2nd Marine Division (Forward) all received letters of censure from the secretary of the Navy.

Huck's letter was "for the actions he took and failed to take in response to the circumstances" surrounding the incident in Haditha, the Marine Corps said in the statement.

Davis was sanctioned for failing to take appropriate action when informed of the incident, and Sokoloski was censured "for his unsatisfactory performance of duty."

The letters of censure, the highest administrative punishment an officer can receive, will be filed in the officers' official military records, the Marine Corps said.

Navy Secretary Donald Winter signed the letters of censure on Wednesday, Marine officials said.

The Consolidation Disposition Authority for the Haditha case, Lt. Gen. James Mattis, found no evidence they intended to cover up the killings, but "he did determine that their actions, or inaction, demonstrated lack of due diligence on the part of senior commanders and staff," the statement said.

Mattis recommended the punishment of the three officers to Winter, Marine officials said.

A fourth officer, Maj. Gen. Stephen T. Johnson, former commanding general of II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), was exonerated of any culpability in the incident.

The letters of censure are expected to end the military careers of the three officers. When they file for retirement, their request will be reviewed by Winter, who will determine if they will retire at their current ranks or at the last rank at which they served satisfactorily, Marine officials said.

Huck is currently the deputy assistant commandant for plans, policy and operations at Marine Corps Headquarters in Arlington, Virginia. Davis is now the chief of staff for the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, and Sokolowski is the staff judge advocate general for the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force at Camp Lejeune.

On November 19, 2005, insurgents set off a roadside bomb that killed a Marine. Marines from the victim's unit were eventually charged in connection with the deaths of 24 Iraqi civilians killed shortly after the blast.

The military began investigating the killings in March 2006 after an Iraqi human rights group alleged that Marines had gone on a house-to-house rampage after the bombing. Charges were brought the following December.

A statement from the Marine Corps originally blamed the civilian deaths on the same roadside bomb that killed the member of the detachment, triggering a parallel investigation into how commanders handled the incident.

Four Marines initially were charged with murder, but charges against two were dropped -- one in exchange for his testimony and the other because a hearing officer decided he acted in accord with rules of engagement.

Murder charges remain against Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum.

CNN has learned that video from a small, unmanned spy plane that captured bombings and ground work by the Marines seeking the insurgents will be introduced as evidence by Wuterich's lawyers.

In addition, three officers are charged with failing to report and investigate the killings -- Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, the battalion commander, Capt. Lucas McConnell and 1st Lt. Andrew Grayson.

The men's supporters have argued they are being railroaded by the government

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/05/haditha.officers/index.html
#53340
World Daily News / Re: U.S. Economy in Bad Shape
September 06, 2007, 11:09:03 AM
Now is the time for realtors to buy out homes--cuz people are selling homes for cheap. Homes that were once worth 1.5-2 million USD are now worth 750k or even 1 mil USD.
#53341
General Topic / Re: Ang PROMDI sa U.S
September 06, 2007, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on September 05, 2007, 04:13:33 AM
It is sad that the media,t.v and movies shows more of American lavish,rich city lifestyle and hardly show the american country living.When I arrived here 6 years ago I was happy as a clam.It's not because I finally arrive in America but because I finally reunited to the person I wanna spend my whole lifetime with  and the moment I step on his parents home(I live with my soon to be husband parents before we got married)I look around and sigh "What a quite ,beautiful place.I think some people back home would maybe cry when they realize how isolated the place is and all you see is the cornfield and soybeans field and hardly see any neighbor.For some reason I hardly miss home part of it because this place remind me of the place in Bohol where I grow up.The corn remind me of my parents and grandma's cornfield back in the island .It's like living in Bohol without your neighbors.Soon I meet my neighbor here.They were just like my neighbors back home.They welcome me like a princess .They give me lot;s of warm cloths for the winter.One farmer even give me Mama rabbit which I find really sweet of him.The rabbit give birth to 7 bunnies a week later and it keep multiflying.We live in the country sorrounded by small towns.Everybody knows everybody.When I got married almost 3 months after I arrived here people pouring in on our reception wishing us goodluck.
My husband called himself Promdi.Yes we are Promdi.People in big city think we  are hillbillies.I remember talking to a filipina in New York and when she know I live in the farm she said something about")so you live in the Bundok kawawa ka naman.Taga Bukid pala husband mo.When some filipina friends in the city visit my place they always made a comment about.Ay Raquel kung ako magpuyo diri,magsegi siguro ko ug hilak or basin mabuang ko,or di gyud ko kaantus magpuyo aning lugara nga kamingaw ba.I sure can't stand living this kind of place in the middle of the knowhere one pinay friend say.I always find their comment hilarious.Maybe it just depend on someone personality.Maybe depend where you grow up too.
What I like most about this place is the people around me. The farmers and the people living in the country are the true american.They were very humble.They sure remind me of us Bol-anon.They were kind and hardworking people.People knock on your door here bringing you food or some farm produce even people stop by and give us meat.When they see you on the road they always wave their hands and always have big smile on their face and ask How are you today!They were always helpul.I had many trips of my kids in tot to macdonald and I always find someone offer me help to walk with me and hold my children hands towards the car,sometimes carry the infant carrier for me.Every summer we grows vegestable and sweet corn and we always bring those produce to the city and give it to the filipino friends.I even grow batong here and tangad even Opo.Whats funny is my mother inlaw love growing tangad as her ornamental plant and even camote too she think its as beautiful vine.Would you beleive they sale baho baho here and they think its a flower plant heheheh.After I give birth I always find my neighbors here knocking on my door bringing gifts for my kids and most of all they always bring dinner for me and my family because they think I am busy to cook dinner and just got home from the hospital.We are close knit community here.Everybody help everybody.Aside from that most people living in my area are devoted catholic.We always observe the catholic tradition here,the feast days and the holy day of obligation.I always go with my mother inlaw every wednesday and we do the Eucharistic adoration and the rosary.My husband and I and the children always pray the family rosary everyday.It's okey  to miss the meal than miss the rosary.People go to church here every sunday,what sad is that we dont have station priest around.One priest in 3 parishes.We keep praying for more vocation because the priest here is getting old ,retiring and dying.
My husband always feel happy when we had filipino company.We invite our filipino friends mostly bol-anon and cebuano to come over to our place and we make lechon for them.My husband had cousins who is a hog farmer so we purchase pig for them for only 15 dollar 40 lbs.We usually purchase 3 pigs so one for lechon and the two pigs for bring house.They voucher(ihaw) it here and cut it up and divide.The only thing my husband don't like about our Pinoys visitors is they want to voucher the pigs itself with the sharp knife.American don;t like us handling the knife it scares them let alone let him hold and rustle the pigs while this brave pinoy try to stick those knife on pig neck and save the blood.It;s surely gross him and beside he think they were torturing the poor pig.We sure have our own fiesta here in my place complete with lechon and kareoke.My husband and few american neighbor like our dishes except the dinuguan and the fried fish with head on it.My inlaws said that the fish eye keep looking on them.Our feasta start when my husband mention to one filipina in St. Louis that we had pot belly pig(sure look like our bisaya pig) and one day we got tired of feeding him.Note; we only feed the pig with table scrap and corn but the pig just keep getting bigger and bigger so we decided we will get rid of him.We name him Arnold.We publish Arnold on the paper for adoption and a kind hearted guy adopt him.Pot Belly Pig is a pet not  food at least thats what american think.We voucher the white breed pigs for lechon it was good.My husband prefer to shot the pig with his handgun than torturing it slowly just like what we do when we ihaw the pig.We never had feasta this year,we are to busy and in the process of moving in in other house, still on the farm.After Arnold we become poster parents to countless pot belly pigs ang give them away once someone is willing to adopt them.Most pinoy react on this and said I can;t beleive you give the pig away we could eat them and have lechon.
These Filipino friends also feel at home at my homestead because once you get into my place you will see my big chapel.This is my husband gift to me when I get here.He buy a big statue of Mother Mary as tall as me 5 ft. complete with altar and station of the cross in church auction for 30 dollar.This thing cost a fortune but nobody bid against him so he bought it dirt cheap.What I like about country people is they prefer buying cheaper things than those expensive brand.They value their hardwork.I think so too that it;s rediculous to buy expensive stuff esp. if you cant hardly afford them.We enjoy garage sale here and second hand store.We like clearance sale the most.I remember one time I mention to my Pinay friend that I buy all my children cloths in garage sale it;s cheap and she  said to me about "yuk I am not buying other people junk.I prefer to buy it in the mall those branded one."I know her very well and she is not even rich back home.Lot's of filipina here too ,ridiculed about going to garage sale and second hand store as degrading.I was more impress with my farmers neighbor because not only  they have tons of money but they were very humble.(Ang mabaw nga sapa saba ang lawom hilom.)
When one farmer got sick and can;t plant or harvest his crop all the farmers had to pitch in and help.When one is sick in the community we always throw a fundraising dinner to help.Really nice community indeed.I know most people here even though my closest neighbor live about a mile from my house.I feel like a celebrity in my area.Everybody know me.I remember the last time I went home in Philippines vacationing in Bohol and happen to have mud slide in leyte and the people see the news on T.V my husband said that our phone keep ringing, all the neighbors call and ask if I am okey.They sure worry about me and they think philippines is that small.Everytime there is news about philippines all my neighbors sometimes the whole city in my area would check if my family back home is okey.News and gossip can travel as fast as the lightning here too.Divorce is uncommon where I live.In fact my inlaws just celebrate their 50th anniversary this year.This place sure remind me of home.One friend from calape visit me here and say said something about Wow raquel this place is just like home..And I reply oh yeah we are PROMDI here.

Thanks for sharing your story, Raquel. Long kastanan uuy!!! :P
#53342
Lets talk in private then.
#53343
kanang fiewsta bitaw na.. mo inum bitaw ug beer ug mo ka-un ug weiner schnitzel; naa mana sa Germany..naa ba na sa DK?
#53344
Quotable Quotes / Re: When You've Known Defeat
September 06, 2007, 01:18:58 AM
Love this quote, very inspiring.
#53346
Happy, naa mo  kanang Oktoberfest sa DK?
#53347
Quote from: preciousNpolite on September 06, 2007, 12:49:43 AM
"ATTENTION ONICULE"
Do you have western union where you are at? Do you have some one you can trust to receive it in Bohol; at western union?
Do you know about door to door service by doing it through a Philippine store and they are the ones to door to door actually to her house.
You can send easily that amount. Find a Philippines store in the bigger cities get her name and address before you go to the Philippines market and feel out the form with all the proper information it will take 3-7 working days to have it delivered to the Visayans region.
This is effective and this is the way seamen will send money back home to their families. no need for the ladies to leave the house as it is brought straight to them.


Yea, we send money frequenty back home--my parents do, i mean. However I've never done it before--and dont know any contact info. I'm willing to write out a check to someone i can trust here in TB and if they could cash it in phils and give it to the family--i would be more than happy.

If anyone would be willing to help me, id appreciate it. If not--i'll just ask my parents to send it to relatives and do it--but that would take too much time--



Thanks for giving me some advice,
#53348
I just want to address the current stipulation in the current consensus on some Filipinos with the concept of natural healers who commune with 'ginoos' and or referred to the proverbial bisayan "diwatas". I have come in contact with many of Filipino peers of my age group (namely within the 18-25 brackett) and discussed the etiological view of disease in the nativist Filipino view--as well as the teleological framework of the condition itself.

One of the key issues that my contemporaries and I have hard pressing questions includes the concept of Filipino quack doctory---or also known as shamans or natural healers. The importance of understanding this concept is quite important, as we even discussed this in our last week's Filipino-American Association organization--clearly to understand the thinkings of our ancestors in the past--as well as to find out if there really was some truth to it.

For example, my parents who are medical professionals in the truest sense, do believe that there is truth to quack doctory--and that they hold some kind of spiritual power to cure diseases that cannot be satiated by traditional allopathic and homeostatic medicine. For example, my father--who was treated for having blisters in his foot as a child went to physicians to find the prognosis of the condition--and he was given medication to treat the blisters--which did not work. My lolo, my father's dad, took him to a quack doctor who was said to have ushered some kind of indigenous incantation to my father--in reference to the diwatas and gave him herbal medication--which cured my father's severe blisters on his feet, outright. I actually had a discussion with my father about this some time ago--and he is a firm believer that there are some men in the Philippines with the special holistic ability to cure some diseases and commune with spirits--which is rather amazing for me, considering my father is not the type to be mystical, on the contrary it is rather interesting that he would say that--coming from a man is an Engineer and Registered Nurse--and a man who currently works in the Emergency Room and some times in the OR in the hospital.

It really just boggles my mind--thinking about it. So I ask you, my fellow Boholanos, have you had such experiences or heard of such? Do you believe in the power of quack doctors or are you skeptical about it, as I am?

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Remark: My contemporaries here in college have mixed views about it; some firmly believe in it and some are skeptical and others deny the legality of natura-holistic medicine--in favor of western based allopathic/osteopathic medicine.


Thanks!
#53349
Jun, if you were in power, what would your recourse be?


I'll tell you my view afterwards.
#53350
Music and Video / Re: Your Favorite Song
September 06, 2007, 12:30:33 AM
Quote from: Happy on September 05, 2007, 11:35:39 PM
Ganahan pud ko ani, kadtong tigpamayle pa ko uso kaayo ni hehehe

Parting Time-Rockstar

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0uPrKU-7ZU

Sweet song! I actually have this song ina cd called 'Musikarera' or something--which my mum got for me when she went back home in 2005 :)

Try this: "Summer of '69"
..lol this is like my dad's fav song.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZpucUihZ4HE


#53351
Quote from: ms da binsi on September 05, 2007, 04:38:05 AM
I can live without cellphone but sunglasses i can't....

haha ill give you my top 5 things:

1. My wallet
2. My xbox 360 and vid games
3. My laptop
4. Work out set
5. Id card/debit card
#53352
Philippine Laws / Re: Filipinos Are No Longer Poor?
September 06, 2007, 12:19:02 AM
Unsa man diay atong gini index at present?
#53353
Talk of the Town / Re: Selflessness...
September 06, 2007, 12:09:28 AM
^ Well said.
#53354
I hope they do get it---a job well done.
#53355
Bohol Directory / The Falkland War
September 05, 2007, 07:54:12 AM
The Falklands War while being a small contained conflict is in many ways regarded a the new model war that ended the era of mass conflict before and defined a new age of modern warfare that continues to this day.

The war is still the only conflict to be fought since WWII where two modern 1st world militaries clashed.

After the open reporting of Vietnam, the British government imposed strict control over media reporting, a model all world conflicts have used to this day.

The Argentinians used a large force of mostly conscripts, whereas the British used almost entirely special forces to fight the war. Since the war most conflicts have followed the British model of using small highly trained forces.


One of the great ironies of the war, Margaret Thatcher had the lowest rating in the opion polls of any prime minister in history and a landslide defeat was imminant at the forthcoming election. Argentina's brutal military Junta were in firm control. After the war Margaret Thatcher went on to election victory whereas Argentina's military regime collapsed and was replaced a liberal one. Leaving many to conclude, Britain may have won the war but suffered the most from the consequences.

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#53356
Philippine Business News / Re: Earthquake Hits Bohol
September 05, 2007, 07:27:58 AM
Thank God no one was hurt.
#53357
^ hahahaha ning adto diay mo nebraska, 'te? Unsa man ang dugway dinha sa nebraska? Tugnaw ba jud when ning adto mo sa tournament? Maka-kaibao diay imuhang bana ug panah-panah sa bow ug arrow? Wa jud ko kaibao sa ang historidad sa ang ojebway ug kanang sioux, 'te. Ku-an ra kanang movies---naka tang-aw ba ka sa movie 'Dances with Wolves'? Guapo jud 'tung pelicula---simple ra jud ilahang life sa unang panahon, no? Innocent jud kastanan.
#53358
ooo..luuy pood, 'ate. Naa raba ko amigo indian--3/4 siya sioux and 1/4th siya itoom. Buutan siya raba--pero extremely intelligent. Dili na siya mo talk unless he's talked to--pero whenever he talks--ma kuyaw-an jud ta kai he speaks so eloquently--ma mesmorized kami. Ning anhi siya sa collegio--from the reservations siya sa north dakota--but got in here because of high scores and scholarship.

Daghan ko respeto for kanang native american, kay even tho gi maltreated sila sa ang puti tao sa una--mo survive jud na sila. Unconquorable spirit nila---maayo kastanan. Pariho sa pilipino.
#53359
Mike, gusto pood ko mo donate, pre. Mo hatag ko $150.00. Unsa-oon man to send the funds?? I never actually sent money international before---

Mike, okey ba if mo hatag ko sa kuarta to your account and you can send it on behalf of the Lucino-Salvo family? Salamat pood, pre.
#53360
Quote from: junayag on September 05, 2007, 03:23:21 AM

naa man gyoy mga Pinoy nga hilas kaayo, mas naaggravate nga naa na sila sa USA, natakdan pod sa mga Kano kay isig pasikatay baya silang mga Kano... wala diay mo kahibalo na hambogero man sad sila, a feel of superiority...?

Pre, daghan jud kastanan ignorante americans dinhi pood--mo tang-aw sila sa atong nawong--and maka ingoon sila in their ulo "oo they dont look white--they must be uneducated"--naa galing racism sila against sa other asians dinhi sa college nako. Thats why there are so many outspoken Fil-Ams who have to defend themselves because some 'native americans' think they are higher and greater than 'immigrant americans' pista na! Ug mo anhi ka sa ahong college, pre, maka kita jud ka daghaaaan kastanan ug 'Filipino-American Awareness Association' or kanang 'Asian-American Awareness Association' ---kay dili na jud ni sila mo tolerate being looked down on.

Dili pa lupig man jud ang pilipino, haha, which has its goods and bads. Dili pa lupig man among paryente ug among ginikanan---so of course dili pa lupig pud ilang anak. Gi molded na jud ang my generation Fil-Ams to 'defend and speak out'. Specially here in the east coast.
#53361
Quote from: C2H4 on September 04, 2007, 03:40:47 PM
^hala ka! ning saka na ang alta presyon ni sir Onicul85  :)

Sa bag-o pa ko abot, it used to bother me. Pero karon, thick-skinned naman ko. Pareho ming swakee, mga baga'g nawong, di ba swaks? LOL

There was one time, funeral to sa akong brother-in-law, a relative sa akong bana approached me and said, "so, you're an FOB-fresh off the boat?"...I said, "no, I actually got here by plane" in a perfectly deadpan tone. Ning hilum lagi siya.



Ah! Mao na! Well said!

:)
#53362
Music and Video / Re: Your Favorite Song
September 05, 2007, 01:29:20 AM
Heard this song earlier today in the radio when I was driving. Memories of Valencia, Bohol hit my head.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UUei5-fKXMQ
#53363
Philippine Daily News / Re: Filipinos are not Bookworms?
September 05, 2007, 01:15:04 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on September 05, 2007, 12:17:25 AM
Why the hell did they say we are not bookworms? its because we dont buy a lot??? yes because it is very expensive. when i was young i borrowed a lot of books from friends and relatives kay mahal kaayo but still it didnt stop me from being a worm :D Now that i can afford it nasamot na ko ka worm.... ;D

bitaw no? some of us just download books online ;) Ate Belle, what kind of book genre do you read?
#53364
Quote from: preciousNpolite on September 04, 2007, 11:37:19 PM
Well it is good enough for suspicion and for this person to be held for questioning "My how odd this person has Jacks cell phone especially after his death?" just how did this person obtain this phone?
Did Jack have them on him the night he was killed?
Did he let his co-worker hold on to them for a while?
I heard there is more to the story then what is being said about the whole thing?
I heard this from a very reliable source who has to be the closest person at his side all night during a show that was held in Dauis Panglao. According to this person jack was not being his usual bubbly self? I think maybe also his family knows more as well and does not want to reveal what they know. I wonder from the sounds and looks of things could it be that jack was threatened? I also feel that the family might be scared to go to the police as they may be the next victim of circumstance if they did. I am truly sickened for what has happened to Jack and this community.
Last weekend we were suppose to launch off La Bailar at ICM mall the same judges will be returning minus our chairman judge Jack. Sad to say that last weekend it did not launch.
I think that the entire ballroom community is still in mourning and not presently in the mood to compete so close to the murdering of jack.
Please people for the sake of Jack lets keep the ball rolling and keep our god thoughts of Jack by continuing to do the things he loved to do.
He would want as many persons possible signing up and dancing in the competition as it is his most favorite activity and sport. Keep on dancing in the Heavens my friend.







Amen. We will keep in our hearts and hope everything goes back to normal in the coming days.
#53365
Good night---im done with this. No productivity at all.
#53366
You have a good 50 years on me--so you should be more experienced, lol. Is that so? I didnt know that newspapers were gospel...must be one of your typically narrow minded 'conclusions'.  ;D
#53367
lol, you're hilarious.
#53368
Oh how sad the life of the pessimist. O well.
#53369
Thats your own problem.
#53370
Quote from: ms da binsi on September 04, 2007, 01:00:04 PM
dili mag pa cha-cha ang bisaya noh???? sigi gud kog ingon Swak nga di ko magabaan kay gikaminusan ko....(justify sa akong mga tubagonon sa langit ::) )

I really cant believe there are @ssholes that treat Filipino workers here in the US like that, Belle!! Bastosa pood na sila! You should have told them " Excuse me, I'm a registered nurse and I take care of patients as a living---saving your lives--why can't you show more respect to health care givers!!!"

Ma sukoooo jud ko after reading these stories, Belle! Last time galing---ning ingoon ahong mom about one time she was ill treated by an black CNA---okay my mom is an  intensive care nurse--been working as once since she was 19---and experienced. And there was this CNA that didnt even helped her and tried to look down on her---ning ingooon jud ahong mama niya "EXCUSE ME, why dont you get of your ass and assess some patients and clean the sheets. Last time I remember--I'm an ICU/RN and you're a nurse's aid."

Mao na!! Talk back pood sometimes--kay you guys do SO MUCH in the health care industry, you know! 10% of the US health care industry are made up by Filipinos (nurses, doctors, pharmacists, therapists etc). Thats saying alot---the least they could give our elders is RESPECT!

Really annoys me how they look down on immigrants with accents---that maybe so but our Filipino immigrants are EDUCATED!!! PUTANG INA MO!
#53371
Quote from: Bambi on September 02, 2007, 03:50:12 AM
Maybe Gervistil before but now...????? :-\

got also another experienced.... want to eat my Baon at work and a lady workmate curiously looking at me with a questioning eyes.... and i asked her - Is something?  she said.... she just waited and want to see how i will eat.  And I abruptly answered:"  same like you with hand or u think i will eat with my feet."   she was :o   Da, nakatunong ug Pilosopong taga Bohol.  Pahiya lagi in front of the others.

Hah!! Good job Bambi!!! Mao na! Ing ana!! I'd give anything to have seen that, pre!

#53372
Philippine Business News / "LET'S JOIN HANDS."
September 04, 2007, 12:50:31 PM


LET'S JOIN HANDS." Police Prov'l Director Edgardo Ingking (l) in a dynamic discussion on peace and order matters with City Mayor Dan Lim (r) during a rare moment as the two officials were noted not to be in wholesome talking terms since Ingking was installed as the PNP prov'l director here. Foto DANNY REYES

Source: http://www.boholchronicle.com/

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Good! Progress!! The Boholano Way!
#53373
By: KIT BAGAIPO

ARAT
        

Elements of the City PNP arrested at around 11:30 last night the suspect in the killing of Jack Arat, a marketing executive of the Bohol Tropics Resort Club.

The suspect is identified as one Jeffrey Garrote, 25, a resident of Maribojoc town.

Police Chief Inspector Jacinto Cesar, city police chief, said in an interview with the Chronicle last night, that Garrote was arrested following a tip from a concerned citizen that the suspect was selling one of Arat's two cellular phones which was taken from the latter after he was gunned down in cold blood in front of his residence early dawn last August 13.
          

A roving City PNP team spotted Garrote along Belderol Street, this city, but were able to arrest at Graham Street after the suspect eluded arrest.

According to C/Insp. Cesar, Garrote denied responsibility in the killing of Arat during an interrogation last night.

The suspect is reportedly a police character who sells stolen cellular phones, C/Insp. Cesar said.

Arat, 30, was a marketing and sales executive of Bohol Tropics Resort Club. He was shot in front of his residence along JS Torralba Street, this city.

Police said the apparent motive is robbery as Arat was divested of two expensive mobile phones and cash amounting to P15,000.

It may be recalled that City Mayor Dan Lim assured last week that police already have a shortlist of suspects in the string of shooting incidents and robberies in the city.

Mayor Lim likewise declared that starting Sept 1, he wants night spots to close by 12 midnight together with the strict imposition of the liquor ban by 10 p.m. for those without licenses as given to tourist-related establishments like hotels.

The mayor wants a barangay level imposition of the liquor ban. The 12-midnight closure of night spots will include the "Sky's The Limit" barbecue corners in the city.

Together with this is the strict imposition of curfew on minors starting at 10 o'clock in the evening.

Internet cafes will also be closely monitored and will eventually be asked to limit their business hours.

Habal-habal drivers will be checked especially those who are not owners of motorcycles but are merely renting the bikes to operate until wee hours in the morning.

   SOURCE: http://www.boholchronicle.com/2007/sep/2/major7.htm
#53374
Philippine Business News / Peace pipe for Lim,
September 04, 2007, 12:43:16 PM
The fight against criminalities in the city is expected to even improve even as the city PNP arrested last night the suspect behind the murder of Bohol Tropics sales executive Jack Arat.

This developed after City Mayor Dan Lim and PNP Prov'l Director Edgardo Ingking declared to join hands in the fight against crimes in the city.

It maybe noted that these two officials were not in their "comfortable terms" since the time Ingking assumed as the police provincial director here vice Police Senior Supt. Arturo Evangelista who also crossed path with the city mayor.

Lim and Ingking were noted to be on a dynamic discussion after the meeting of the Bohol Prime Movers headed by Hans Schoof at the Capitol last Wednesday.

The "cold treatment" between the two officials almost erupted into a major conflict during last Tuesday's bank heist wherein Ingking ordered that rob suspect leader Meloy Garcia be brought to Camp Dagohoy while Mayor Lim insisted to bring said suspect to the city PNP headquarters for initial interrogation.

However, during their discussion last Friday, the two officials agreed to frequently exchange notes on police matters.

DAY 1: SEPT. 1

Mayor Lim reiterated that he makes true his policy to close night spots especially drinking joints by 12 midnight.

His earlier pronouncement pointed to Sept. 1 as the first day of implementation of the "12 midnight closure" order.

However, in a check made by the Chronicle last night, the mayor's order was not implemented including the barbecue joints known as "sky's the limit," areas where beer and liquor are sold up to the wee hours in the morning.

Mayor Lim, in an earlier statement said he will also order the PNP to strictly implement the liquor ban and curfew on minors at 10 p.m. Internet joints will also be included in the 12 midnight closure policy.

He said that with the increasing criminalities in the city, he will not wait for his 100-day period to implement these orders which are aimed at improving the peace and order situation in this growing city.

The public expects the mayor to implement these orders since tomorrow is already the third day of September or two days delayed of the targeted implementation date.

SOURCE: http://www.boholchronicle.com/2007/sep/2/front4.htm
#53375
Philippine Business News / Six rob suspects fall
September 04, 2007, 12:41:53 PM
Six rob suspects fall
By: KIT BAGAIPO
     
     

"Case is solved."

Police provincial director SSupt. Edgardo Ingking declared as two remaining suspects in the midday holdup of a Bank of Commerce van last Tuesday have been arrested.

In a string of police operations all six robbers who staged the robbery and bloody shootout are now in police custody.

The shootout at the Bank of Commerce resulted in the death of security guard Remegio Cañizar and the wounding of two other guards Tirso Fullido and Meliton Lamoste and one of the suspects, Cresencio Reguya.

The police first apprehended a seriously wounded Reguya, 27, a resident of Magsaysay, Talibon, who was left behind, a few meters from the bank, after the shootout with the security guards.

In hot pursuit, police arrested on Tuesday night, barely six hours after the holdup, Casimiro "Meloy" Garcia, the alleged leader of the robbery group, his 17-year-old girlfriend and a slightly wounded Gelvin Reguya Nuez, 19.
          

The trio had just checked in at the Dumaluan Beach Resort when the resort's security guards noticed their presence since they were listening to the live marathon coverage over dyRD. This prompted them to call for police assistance.

A joint police team of Tagbilaran and Panglao PNP together with the resort's security men, collared the suspects in their rented cottage.

The girl was turned over to the Department of Social Welfare and Development.

Garcia and Nuez are also residents of Magsaysay, Talibon.

The City PNP later arrested Sofronio Remoreras, a cousin of Garcia who drove the rented van that brought them to the Panglao resort owned by former Panglao Mayor Doloreich Dumaluan.

In another joint operation, Tagbilaran and Loay police arrested Thursday 10:45 p.m. Arsenio Polo alias Botyok, 24, in barangay Alegria, Loay.

The arrest led to the capture of one more suspect Gerardo "Al" Fuentes, 26, early Friday morning, in the same barangay. Polo and Fuentes are both residents of Sikatuna, Talibon.

The two were hiding in a secluded area where they had camped out, according to police.

SPO4 Asterio Quinio, Loay police chief, said in an interview with the Chronicle that "habal-habal" drivers informed them that Polo had been spotted in barangay Palo.

The police earlier received report that Meloy Garcia and his group met at the residence of one Teodula Auxtero in Alegria, Loay before the Tuesday heist.

Auxtero is a native of Talibon, the hometown of the suspects, Quinio said.

Police had placed the residence under surveillance since Tuesday after the robbery with the possibility that Polo and Fuentes might turn up there.

According to Quinio, the two suspects already returned at Auxtero's residence hours after the robbery but were not seen by police.

Fuentes, who did not know that Polo was arrested Thursday night, communicated with his accomplice through text messages which was already led by the police.

Polo later led Tagbilaran and Loay police to the location of Fuentes early Friday morning.

They arrived at the hideout when Fuentes just woke up. He did not resist arrest.

Recovered from Fuentes were two .38 caliber revolvers with ammunition including P4,000.

The two motorcycles which were used in the robbery were later recovered by police parked along M. Parras Street infront of Gallares Hospital, this city.

During initial interrogation, the two suspects admitted their participation in the Bank of Commerce robbery.

Polo also admitted to have participated in at least three robberies with Garcia.

In an interview with the Chronicle, Polo bared that after the holdup, he and Fuentes went to Loay and later met with Remoreras' brother, one "Longlong" Remoreras, who gave them P10,000 as initial share of their loot.

CHARGES SET

SSupt. Ingking said they will file robbery charges against Garcia, Polo, Fuentes, Reguya, Nuez and van-for-hire driver Remoreras.

The complicity of Garcia's girlfriend will still be determined, said City PNP chief C/Insp. Jacinto Cesar in a separate interview.

Meanwhile, Ingking clarified that Rodolfo "Dopong" Atega, who was arrested by a team of Cebu City police in San Miguel town last Wednesday was not part of the Tuesday robbery.

Ingking lauded the "extra-ordinary" cooperation of the community, which led to the arrest of the suspects.

WHO ATTACKED THE SUSPECTS?

It was a 10-man team of the City PNP that attacked the resort room where robbery boss Meloy Garcia and a cohort were hiding.

An account of the raid was made by members of the team in an interview with the Chronicle yesterday to finally end claims made by former Mayor Dumaluan.

The team members said it is not a matter of who should get the credit in the successful arrest of Garcia, a high-profile robber tagged in daring broad daylight robberies here and in Cebu City.

They said the former mayor insulted the police force when he said in interviews with regional newspapers and radio stations that it was his security men who pinned down Meloy Garcia and his wounded cohort.

Dumaluan claimed the policemen who went to his resort "had no proper briefing on what to do and lacked the know-how in crisis management."

The former mayor further said that it was his private security who led the arrest of the robbers as the police who responded to his resort were skeptical in barging into the rented room after they received information that the two were heavily armed.

However, City PNP responding team members led by Insp. Basiledes Balistoy countered that it was their group who led the assault.

THE ATTACK

SPO1 Lino Karaan and PO3 Jimboy Villapaz bared their team arrived at the beach resort shortly before 6 p.m. last Tuesday.

They reportedly received the tip from one of the resort's waiters that the suspects responsible in the Bank of Commerce holdup checked in at the resort.

The 10-man group arrived at the resort and was met by Dumaluan and his security who told them of the room's location.

Dumaluan requested the City police team that if they decide to storm the robbers, as much as possible it should be done without gunshots fired.

Garcia's girlfriend was already held by tourist police at the resort's restaurant where she ordered food.

According to Villapaz, their group split up into two teams, the first group was led by group leader Insp. Balistoy while he led the other team.

He said members of the Panglao tourist police were just securing the resort's guests and Dumaluan's family. Dumaluan security guarded the resort's premises.

When the group decided to raid the robbers' room, according to Villapaz, it took less than a minute to execute.

The City PNP team were pressured to carry out the raid quickly since it was already nightfall, a little past 6 p.m.

According to Villapaz and Karaan, it was SPO1 Reinerio Añana who crashed the room's door for them to gain entry.

Contrary to a statement made by Dumaluan that Garcia's wounded companion Gilben Nuez attempted to draw his 9-mm gun, Villapaz said the two robbers never had the chance to get near their weapons which was packed in a bag that was placed on a table away from the two.

The police team said if Dumaluan and his security men insist in claiming credit for the assault, then they should execute affidavits regarding their claim.

The City PNP team was composed of Balistoy, Karaan, Villapaz, SPO1 Añana, PO3 Yolando Bagotchay, PO1 Alberto Kudemus, PO2 Abraham Paeste, PO1 Sherwin Añora, PO2 Rey Calimbayan and one member of the Panglao tourist police.

REMAINING CASH

The team added that the actual cash held by Garcia and Nuez was only P33,000 and not P90,000 as claimed by Dumaluan.

The P90,000 was already split by Garcia after the robbery, a part of which was given to van driver Sofronio Remoreras who was allegedly tasked to divide it among the other suspects.

In a separate interview with the Chronicle, Garcia's other cohort Arsenio "Botyok" Polo admitted he was given P10,000 by the brother of Remoreras, identified only as "Longlong" Remoreras after the holdup.

According to resort personnel, Garcia and Nuez arrived at the resort separately.

The first to arrive in a V-hire driven by Remoreras was the wounded Nuez.

At around 5 p.m., Garcia and his girlfriend arrived aboard a tricycle and went to Nuez' room.

BUNGLED EXECUTION KILLED GUARD

Garcia said in an interview with the Chronicle that two of his companions in Tuesday's bank heist were new recruits.

He said Nuez and Fuentes were both "first timers" in terms of bigtime operations.

The inexperience of both led to the killing of security guard Remegio Cañizar.

Garcia narrated that Fuentes and Nuez were posted near the Bank of Commerce parking area where the van, carrying money from Unitop Department Store and DES Marketing for deposit, parked shortly before 12 noon Tuesday.

The two were supposed to snatch the firearms of the escort security guards before taking the money bags, said Garcia.

However, according to Garcia, the two panicked during the execution of their game plan which forced him to shoot and neutralize Cañizar.

Garcia, armed with an Ingram assault rifle, admitted he fired upon Cañizar who started to aim his shotgun at them.

THE LOOT

The robbers took away some P90,000 from Bank of Commerce teller Mabel Marie Real who was in the van with driver-security guard Noel Cajes.

Cañizar, 38, a resident of Habitat Village, this city, was hit in the head and left shoulder causing his immediate death.

Two other security men of the Bank of Commerce were also wounded identified as Mileton Lamoste, 30, single, resident of Mantacida, Catigbian town and one Tirso Fullido, 30, single, of Biking, Dauis town.

Suspect Reguya, a former CAFGU, was hit by a shotgun round at his back, which immobilized him, as he tried to flee together with his cohorts from the gunfight.

The three wounded were rushed to the Gov. Celestino Galleres Regional Hospital.

According to police, one of the bank security guards was able to take the other money bag inside the bank.

Garcia and Nuez fled the scene together and had lunch in a restaurant along lower B. Inting Street before hiring a van going to Panglao. The van is owned by Remoreras.

THE ARREST

Nuez was detected by Dumaluan Beach Resort security due to his bleeding gunshot wound at his right arm.

Garcia and his girlfriend reportedly asked the resort's reception if they could avail the services of a doctor apparently to treat the bleeding Nuez.

The resort security was monitoring the live coverage of the hold-up over station dyRD and immediately sought police assistance.

Recovered from Garcia and Nuez were one Ingram assault rifle with 3 fully loaded magazines, a fully loaded 9-mm handgun and P33,000.

TWO GUARDS WOUNDED

Two guards of the bank who were injured in the shootout are being treated at the Gallares Hospital.

Lamoste was wounded on his left chest and arm while Fullido sustained a single gunshot wound on his abdomen.

OTHER ROBBERIES

Garcia owned responsibility in other high-profile hold-up incidents here such as the broad daylight hits of a Unitop cashier which claimed the life of the escort security.

The robbery group leader also admitted responsibility in the holdup of FCB Foundation employees, and Island City Mall and Petron gas station hold-ups.

The Garcia group is also responsible in the robbery of a gas station in Talibon town.

POLICE, MEDIA HAILED

The extraordinary cooperation of the police, the media and the general public earned praises after the successful arrest of the key suspects.

For three days of broadcast over dyRD after the robbery, calls commending the media and local police poured in from various sectors and officials.

This was highlighted during the monthly forum "Alarma" of the Bohol Tri-media Association (BTMA).

BTMA president Peter Dejaresco presided over the forum with Lito Responte of dyTR and Atoy Cosap of dyRD.

The BTMA also reviewed the role of journalists and broadcasters during emergencies and how to handle sensitive information and the risks of revealing ongoing police operations.

Dejaresco likewise expressed gratitude over the outpour of cash donations and pledges for the slain security guard's family and the two who were wounded, during a fund drive over dyRD.


As of presstime, dyRD gathered a total of P42,880 in cash donations.


END OF THE ROAD. The six suspects in the bank robbery at Bank of Commerce last Tuesday fall into the hands of the police, three of whom were wounded during a shootout with the bank's security guards, (l-r) Carmelo Garcia, Gelvin Nuez, Cresencio Reguya, while two others were nabbed in Loay last Thursday, Arsenio Polo and Gerardo Fuentes.. Foto DANNY REYES/WILLY MAESTRADO


Source: http://www.boholchronicle.com/2007/sep/2/front1.htm
#53376
Amonsot expected to breeze thru scales

July 20, 2007 14:11:00
Salven Lagumbay
Cebu Daily News


CEBU, Philippinesâ€"Boholano Czar Amonsot's weight is just about perfect as he prepares himself for tomorrow's weigh-in for his fight against undefeated WBA interim lightweight king Michael Katsidis at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

As of yesterday, Amonsot has remained at 136 pounds, hovering just a pound above the lightweight limit.

Amonsot did a light run for 35 minutes in the morning, before working out at the Vegas Boxing gym at the Sahara Avenue just a few miles away from the Mandalay Bay. The workout consisted of 10 mins on the skipping rope, 4 rounds of shadow-boxing, three rounds of mitt work, and light abdominal exercises for what trainer Villamor described as 'maintenance training.'

Trainer Villamor said there's really nothing much to do, except maintain Amonsot's level of conditioning going into the weigh-in and fight night.

Tagbilaran City Mayor Dan Neri Lim also took a break from his constituents in Bohol to fly to Las Vegas to provide the much needed support to Czar Amonsot who is like a son to him. Mayor Lim and his old time buddy, Lito of Las Vegas tendered Amonsot, Villamor and cutman Tony Martin dinner at Mandalay Bay.


Mayor Lim gave Czar Amonsot a pleasant pep talk only a good father could provide to a son facing a very challenging but reachable task of conquering a world championship belt, according to Philboxing.com.

“In your fight, you have to treat it as the last fight of your life. So you have to do your very best. Be sure that your effort will not only satisfy you but most importantly all the other people watching your fight live at Mandalay Bay and all those watching in their homes all over the world, especially, your kababayan in the Philippines. You have to amaze them, make them proud and happy. When you fight, you have to fight as Czar Amonsot, not like any other boxer but Czar Amonsot, the champion with your own identity and boxing skills,” Mayor Lim advised.

“During the fight do not ever get angry. Keep your poise, talk to yourself and most important of all, like any good athlete and son to your mother, ask God for help,” added Mayor Lim.



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God Bless Ya Mayor Lim!! Go Tito!!
#53377
Philippine Business News / Good work: officials to police
September 04, 2007, 12:21:08 PM


Good work: officials to police
By Glenda on Aug 30, 2007 in News

SECURITY guards played pivotal roles in the capture of members of the Casimero Garcia Robbery Group, a gang notorious for its brazen attacks on guards during robberies.

It was a security guard from a nearby establishment that wounded members of the group, leading to their arrest.

It was another security guard that gave a tip to authorities in Bohol that group leader Garcia and two other companions checked into the Escaya Beach Resort in Barangay Tawala, Panglao.

With these incidents, Firearms, Explosives, Security Agencies and Guards Supervision Section (Fesagss) 7 Chief Rey Lyndon Lawas recommended that the security guards be given commendations.

Lawas particularly noted the guard who was not assigned to the Bank of Commerce in Tagbilaran City and yet fought the group following last Tuesday’s robbery.

Lawas still has to receive a report from the Bohol Provincial Office on the identity of the guard, though.

Two security guardsâ€"Terson Poledo and Meliton Lamosteâ€"were injured in the shootout, while another one, Remegio Cajes, was killed.

Concentrate

Tagbilaran City Mayor Dan Neri Lim offered assistance for the two wounded guards and assured that Cajes’ children will finish college.

A top police official in the region asked establishments not to let their security guards do jobs like sweeping floors, carrying belongings, flagging taxis for employers, and even acting as waiters.

Police Regional Office (PRO) 7 Deputy Director for Administration Ronald Roderos said guards should concentrate on what
they are hired to do.

Roderos said he wants to give a commendation to the civilian tipster who led policemen to members of the group.
SECURITY guards played pivotal roles in the capture of members of the Casimero Garcia Robbery Group, a gang notorious for its brazen attacks on guards during robberies.

It was a security guard from a nearby establishment that wounded members of the group, leading to their arrest.

It was another security guard that gave a tip to authorities in Bohol that group leader Garcia and two other companions checked into the Escaya Beach Resort in Barangay Tawala, Panglao.

With these incidents, Firearms, Explosives, Security Agencies and Guards Supervision Section (Fesagss) 7 Chief Rey Lyndon Lawas recommended that the security guards be given commendations.

Lawas particularly noted the guard who was not assigned to the Bank of Commerce in Tagbilaran City and yet fought the group following last Tuesday’s robbery.

Lawas still has to receive a report from the Bohol Provincial Office on the identity of the guard, though.

Two security guardsâ€"Terson Poledo and Meliton Lamosteâ€"were injured in the shootout, while another one, Remegio Cajes, was killed.



Tagbilaran City Mayor Dan Neri Lim offered assistance for the two wounded guards and assured that Cajes’ children will finish college.

A top police official in the region asked establishments not to let their security guards do jobs like sweeping floors, carrying belongings, flagging taxis for employers, and even acting as waiters.

Police Regional Office (PRO) 7 Deputy Director for Administration Ronald Roderos said guards should concentrate on what
they are hired to do.

Roderos said he wants to give a commendation to the civilian tipster who led policemen to members of the group.

SunStar Network

#53378
They were raised in 'pinas werent they?? mo speak diay sila espagnol dili tagalog?
#53379
Bohol Directory / Re: A view to the past
September 04, 2007, 08:39:57 AM
Pictures of Filipinos during Spanish colonial days.




Spanish-Filipino constabulary




Spanish postmen in Manila




Rich Filipina wearing the traditional Maria Clara: Circa 1870??


Circa 1880??


Downtown Spanish Manila






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Note how very Europeanized the Philippines was under Spain; its amazing how an Asian country--was so Western/European looking: ranging from the clothing of the people to the buildings and public spaces.
#53380
Quote from: GEC348 on September 04, 2007, 05:16:59 AM

This would be the second invasion of the colonizers :)

GEC, I do have a question pre, are there significant Spanish people in the Philippines to this day? I know that the Ayalas are Spanish jud---they dont even look like their mestizo---they look like they're 100% Spanish jud. But are there pockets of pure spaniards in our 'Pinas to this day? Or are they mixed now?

Puti man jud ni sila no? Pure Spanish jud ilang nawong ug ilang lawas...kaning Ayala Family.


Don Jaime Zobel de Ayala (right), Philippine Industry tycoon


Jaime Augusto Zobel de Ayala II
Chairman and CEO, Ayala Corporation
#53381
Valencia, known for its religious center as well as proud citizenry. The native town of my mother and home base of the Salvo and Salise clans.  8)
#53382
Workplace & Productivity / Re: Perfect for the Job!
September 04, 2007, 05:39:33 AM
^ hilarious, Mike.

Thanks for keeping us smiling, bro.
#53383
A nation's economic strength is correlated to its gross national product (gnp) as well as its gross domestic product per capita (gdp per cap). This in mind, let us analyze the economies of ASEAN--and find out that indeed, the Philippines IS an economic giant in the region--one that is experiencing a phenomenal growth rate.

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ASEAN-REGIONAL ECONOMIC COMPARATIVE

Cambodia:

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$37.73 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$6.6 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
7.2% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$2,700 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 35%
industry: 30%
services: 35% (2004) 
Labor force:   
7 million (2003 est.) 

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Vietnam

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$262.8 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$48.43 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
8.2% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$3,100 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 20.1%
industry: 41.8%
services: 38.1% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
44.58 million (2006 est.) 


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Laos

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$13.63 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$2.773 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
7.4% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$2,100 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 43.4%
industry: 30.6%
services: 26% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
2.1 million (2006 est.) 

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Myanmar

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$85.2 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$9.6 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
3% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$1,800 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 50%
industry: 15%
services: 35% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
28.49 million (2006 est.) 

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Thailand

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$596.5 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$197.7 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
4.8% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$9,200 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 10%
industry: 44.9%
services: 45.2% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
36.41 million (2006 est.) 


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Malaysia

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$313.8 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$132.3 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
5.9% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$12,900 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 8.3%
industry: 48.1%
services: 43.6% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
10.73 million (2006 est.) 


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Indonesia

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$948.3 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$264.7 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
5.5% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$3,900 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 13.1%
industry: 46%
services: 41% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
108.2 million (2006 est.) 


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Singapura (Singapore)

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$141.2 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$122.1 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
7.9% (2006 est.) 
GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$31,400 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 0%
industry: 33.8%
services: 66.2% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
2.4 million (2006 est.) 


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The Philippines

GDP (purchasing power parity):   
$508 billion (2007 est.) 
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$116.9 billion (2006 est.) 
GDP - real growth rate:   
7.5 (2007 est.) 

GDP - per capita (PPP):   
$5,000 (2006 est.) 
GDP - composition by sector:   
agriculture: 14.2%
industry: 32.1%
services: 53.7% (2006 est.) 
Labor force:   
35.79 million (2006 est.) 


+++++++++

Philippines is actually the 3rd LARGEST economy of ASEAN

The largest economy is: Indonesia
Second Largest economy is Thailand
Third Largest Economy is Philippines (and booming and will probably take lead of Thailand in 4-6 years at current growth levels)

+++++++++++

SOURCE: United States Department of Foreign Affairs; CIA WORLD FACT BOOK

#53384
I definately can't wait to visit the place next year!
#53385
Alot of Brits are moving here to the United States. Ironic isnt it? We fought a war for independence with them some 200+ years ago in 1776---and now--they're dying to move to the US (their former colony). haha, amazing jud.

Who knows--maybe next time in the future when Philippines is very rich and powerful---Spaniards willb e moving to Pilipinas. lol. Who knows..
#53386
Philippine Laws / Re: Filipinos Are No Longer Poor?
September 04, 2007, 01:40:43 AM
Im impressed with GMA, she knows what to do and doesn't care what the opposition says--but she knows what is good for the nation and state. She's smart, vicious, brass, collective, oppinionated, intelligent, strategic, religious and firm on her decisions.

A great leader, IMO.
#53387
Bohol Latest News / Re: Where To Go After This (TB)
September 04, 2007, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on September 03, 2007, 08:34:59 PM
Onic, asa man diay ka karon??? tinuod ang mga asian duko2x gyud na sila sa school, sa akong pamati morag mga asian man hinuon ang nanghawod sa school kay sa mga kano... ambot lang... ::)

Naa ko diri sa Meadville sa Pennsylvania. Pa-ita pood lagi kai 8 hours away ko sa ahong balay--gi mingaw jud ko sa mommy nako, daddy ko, ahong duhang isgoon lalaki. Naa man pood ahong igsoon baji dinhi sa college nako--pero different jud. Nothing can ever fill in the void in my heart--that is the need for ahong mommy ug daddy. Kaibao jud ko 22 na ko--tiguwang nako--pero i dont know--i cant ever imagine living without them in my life.

Ever get that feeling, Belle?
#53388
Introduce Yourself / Re: WHO AM I?
September 04, 2007, 01:28:45 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on September 04, 2007, 12:57:58 AM
Amen Jun. I can hardly remember if i regretted ... i always think it that way... bisan unsa pa ka ka puti, itom, brown, bata, tigulang, datu. pobre di gihapon na maimo at the end di ba??? Who among you have seen " BODIES the Exhibitions" ? i learned from that nga ug panitan diay ta no matter what color you were, pareha ra ta tanan????? pareha ra gyud.....

http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/intro.html


That is true, Belle.

If i can recall scripture, a good excerpt from the gospel that we all can read and contemplate on is:
Isaiah 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain

#53389
^Kummusta ka Ethylene Gas (C2H4) ..hahaha ;) ;)

Great post! Are you a nurse abroad or a physician/scientist?
#53390
Bohol Directory / Military History
September 03, 2007, 01:00:53 PM
Lets talk about military history: the topics can include any specific battle to as broad as full epochal wars throughout human history. Topics we can touch on can include the Persian-Greco wars, Roman Wars, Germanicum wars, European Imperialism, Native American societies, East Asian imperial histories, South Asian (Hindustan) military history, African, to south east asian etc!

Any time period can be discussed; this thread is for those who have an interesting fascination towards the human dynamic of 'clash of civilizations': an examination of the causatives and the effects.

Hope everyone contributes and I look forward to having great conversations with all my fellow history buffs in here!
#53391
Talk of the Town / Re: Selflessness...
September 03, 2007, 12:54:05 PM
Quote from: Franklin on September 03, 2007, 12:48:43 PM
But I agree with Junyag.

In a way.....only. Not really what the words say.

When one is "selfish" means being in the moment, sort of "selfish', that you don't need anything.
Kind of like, when one is in prayer, one is "selfish", centered within and not spreading yourself all over the place. Meditating.
Then true selflessness comes with being in the present moment.
Not to be "mean and selfish" and then selflessness comes.
A little tricky with words.


Good that you cleared what you meant--I interpretted what you said differently. Sill, tho, good points.
#53392
oo..luuy lang pood ang bata na matay kai sa kaning drug addicts....

for what?? for a sense of ecstasy that lasts only what?? 4-5 minutes?? What do they get out of it?? Nothing! What do they loose? Everything!

#53393
Bohol Latest News / Re: Where To Go After This (TB)
September 03, 2007, 12:44:37 PM
sus! pa-ita pood no? In time mo adapt/adjust man ka ana---ako it took me some time to adjust to college life--specially with so few filipinos here. Daghan asians pero dili jud sila pariho sa atong kababayan! Maas seriosa ang other asians dinhi sa college oi---specially ang koreans, chinese and vietnamese!
#53394
World Daily News / Re: iPhone
September 03, 2007, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: ..yadz.. on September 03, 2007, 12:40:13 PM
hahaha....just like ug moinit ang panahon., reklamo ang mga taw kay init kaayo, pag moulan reklamo sad ... mglibog na tingali ang ginoo...

Hahaha
#53395
World Daily News / Re: iPhone
September 03, 2007, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: ms da binsi on September 03, 2007, 12:38:12 PM
i always tell my banana nga sa una way tv, way car sakay ra ug bus kagang2x way atm, way reklamo mga tawo karon naa na tanan, reklamo gihapon mga tawo...

lol bitaw no? the more advanced and progressive we get---the more problems associated with advancement seems to rise up.

#53396
World Daily News / Re: iPhone
September 03, 2007, 12:37:24 PM
Quote from: PrincessSaDagat on June 25, 2007, 09:04:15 AM
Available June 29th at 6pm. U.S.A only.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLTjiAfdLY



bah! I dont feel like spending hundreds of dollars for a phone when i can get another type of phone only 1/5th of the price. These things are for the spoiled and tech-savy folks...
#53397
Bible Study / Re: Patron Saint
September 03, 2007, 12:33:19 PM
The communion of saints is the spiritual solidarity which binds together the faithful on earth, the souls in purgatory, and the saints in heaven in the organic unity of the same mystical body under Christ its head, and in a constant interchange of supernatural offices. The participants in that solidarity are called saints by reason of their destination and of their partaking of the fruits of the Redemption (1 Corinthians 1:2 &151; Greek Text). The damned are thus excluded from the communion of saints. The living, even if they do not belong to the body of the true Church, share in it according to the measure of their union with Christ and with the soul of the Church. St. Thomas teaches (III:8:4) that the angels, though not redeemed, enter the communion of saints because they come under Christ's power and receive of His gratia capitis. The solidarity itself implies a variety of inter-relations: within the Church Militant, not only the participation in the same faith, sacraments, and government, but also a mutual exchange of examples, prayers, merits, and satisfactions; between the Church on earth on the one hand, and purgatory and heaven on the other, suffrages, invocation, intercession, veneration. These connotations belong here only in so far as they integrate the transcendent idea of spiritual solidarity between all the children of God. Thus understood, the communion of saints, though formally defined only in its particular bearings (Council of Trent, Sess. XXV, decrees on purgatory; on the invocation, veneration, and relics of saints and of sacred images; on indulgences), is, nevertheless, dogma commonly taught and accepted in the Church. It is true that the Catechism of the Council of Trent (Pt. I, ch. x) seems at first sight to limit to the living the bearing of the phrase contained in the Creed, but by making the communion of saints an exponent and function, as it were, of the preceding clause, "the Holy Catholic Church", it really extends to what it calls the Church's "constituent parts, one gone before, the other following every day"; the broad principle it enunciates thus: "every pious and holy action done by one belongs and is profitable to all, through charity which seeketh not her own".

In this vast Catholic conception rationalists see not only a late creation, but also an ill-disguised reversion to a lower religious type, a purely mechanical process of justification, the substitution of impersonal moral value in lieu of personal responsibility. Such statements are met best, by the presentation of the dogma in its Scriptural basis and its theological formulation. The first spare yet clear outline of the communion of saints is found in the "kingdom of God" of the Synoptics, not the individualistic creation of Harnack nor the purely eschatological conception of Loisy, but an organic whole (Matthew 13:31), which embraces in the bonds of charity (Matthew 22:39) all the children of God (Matthew 19:28; Luke 20:36) on earth and in heaven (Matthew 6:20), the angels themselves joining in that fraternity of souls (Luke 15:10). One cannot read the parables of the kingdom (Matthew 13) without perceiving its corporate nature and the continuity which links together the kingdom in our midst and the kingdom to come. The nature of that communion, called by St. John a fellowship with one another ("a fellowship with us"--1 John 1:3) because it is a fellowship with the Father, and with his Son", and compared by him to the organic and vital union of the vine and its branches (John 15), stands out in bold relief in the Pauline conception of the mystical body. Repeatedly St. Paul speaks of the one body whose head is Christ (Colossians 1:18), whose energizing principle is charity (Ephesians 4:16), whose members are the saints, not only of this world, but also of the world to come (Ephesians 1:20; Hebrews 12:22). In that communion there is no loss of individuality, yet such an interdependence that the saints are "members one of another" (Romans 12:5), not only sharing the same blessings (1 Corinthians 12:13) and exchanging good offices (ibid., xii, 25) and prayers (Ephesians 6:18), but also partaking of the same corporate life, for "the whole body . . . by what every joint supplieth . . . maketh increase . . . unto the edifying of itself in charity" (Ephesians 4:16).

Recent well-known researches in Christian epigraphy have brought out clear and abundant proof of the principal manifestations of the communion of saints in the early Church. Similar evidence, is to be found in the Apostolic Fathers with an occasional allusion to the Pauline conception. For an attempt at the formulation of the dogma we have to come down to the Alexandrian School. Clement of Alexandria shows the "gnostic's" ultimate relations with the angels (Strom., VI, xii, 10) and the departed souls (ibid., VIII, xii, 78); and he all but formulates the thesaurus ecclesiae in his presentation of the vicarious martyrdom, not of Christ alone, but also of the Apostles and other martyrs (ibid., IV, xii, 87). Origen enlarges, almost to exaggeration, on the idea of vicarious martyrdom (Exhort. ad martyr., ch. 1) and of communion between man and angels (De orat., xxxi); and accounts for it by the unifying power of Christ's Redemption), ut caelestibus terrena sociaret (In Levit., hom. iv) and the force of charity, stranger in heaven than upon earth (De orat., xi). With St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom the communion of saints has become an obvious tenet used as an answer to such popular objections as these: what, need of a communion with others? (Basil, Ep. cciii) another has sinned and I shall atone? (Chrysostom, Hom. i, de poenit.). St. John Damascene has only to collect the sayings of the Fathers in order to support the dogma of the invocation of the saints and the prayers for the dead.

But the complete presentation of the dogma comes from the later Fathers. After the statements of Tertullian, speaking of "common hope, fear, joy, sorrow, and suffering" (De poenit., ix and x); of St. Cyprian, explicitly setting forth the communion of merits (De lapsis, xvii); of St. Hilary, giving the Eucharistic Communion as a means and symbol of the communion of saints (in Ps. lxiv, 14), we come to the teaching of Ambrose and St. Augustine. From the former, the thesaurus ecclesiae, the best practical test of the reunion of saints, receives a definite explanation (De poenit., I, xv; De officiis, I, xix). In the transcendent view of the Church taken by the latter (Enchir., lvi) the communion of saints, though never so called by him, is a necessity; to the Civitas Dei must needs correspond the unitas caritatis (De unitate eccl., ii), which embraces in an effective union the saints and angels in heaven (Enarr. in Psalmos, XXXVI, iii, 4), the just on earth (De bapt., III, xvii), and in a lower degree, the sinners themselves, the putrida membra of the mystic body; only the declared heretics, schismatics, and apostates are excluded from the society, though not from the prayers, of the saints (Serm. cxxxvii). The Augustinian concept, though somewhat obscured in the catechetical expositions of the Creed by the Carlovingian and later theologians (P. L., XCIX, CI, CVIII, CX, CLII, CLXXXVI), takes its place in the medieval synthesis of Peter Lombard, St. Bonaventure, St. Thomas, etc.

Influenced no doubt by early writers like Yvo of Chartres (P. L., CLXII, 606l), Abelard (P. L. CLXXXIII, 630), and probably Alexander of Hales (III, Q. lxix, a, 1), St. Thomas (Expos. in symb. 10) reads in the neuter the phrase of the Creed, communio sanctorum (participation of spiritual goods), but apart from the point of grammar his conception of the dogma is thorough. General principle; the merits of Christ are communicated to all, and the merits of each one are communicated to the others (ibid.). The manner of participation: both objective and intentional, in radice operis, ex intentione facientis (Supp., 71:1). The measure: the degree of charity (Expos. in symb., 10). The benefits communicated: not the sacraments alone but, the superabundant merits of Christ and the saints forming the thesaurus ecclesia (ibid. and Quodlib., II, Q. viii, a. 16). The participants: the three parts of the Church (Expos. in symb., 9); consequently the faithful on earth exchanging merits and satisfactions (I-II:113:6, and Suppl., 13:2), the souls in purgatory profiting by the suffrages of the living and the intercession of the saints (Suppl., 71), the saints themselves receiving honour and giving intercession (II-II:83:4, II-II:83:11, III:25:6), and also the angels, as noted above. Later Scholastics and post-Reformation theologians have added little to the Thomistic presentation of the dogma. They worked rather around than into it, defending such points as were attacked by heretics, showing the religious, ethical, and social value of the Catholic conception; and they introduced the distinction between the body and the soul of the Church, between actual membership and membership in desire, completing the theory of the relations between church membership and the communion of saints which had already been outlined by St. Optatus of Mileve and St. Augustine at the time of the Donatist controversy. One may regret the plan adopted by the Schoolmen afforded no comprehensive view of the whole dogma, bur rather scattered the various components of it through a vast synthesis. This accounts for the fact that a compact exposition of the communion of saints is to be sought less in the works of our standard theologians than in our catechetical, apologetic, pastoral, and even ascetic literature. It may also partly explain, without excusing them, the gross misrepresentations noticed above.


Source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04171a.htm
#53398
Talk of the Town / Re: Selflessness...
September 03, 2007, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: junayag on September 03, 2007, 12:21:53 AM

One has to be selfish before he could be selfless...

Natural man jud na pre, for a person to be selfish--kai gusto man jud na ang tao--anyone--in any society and in any time--to get something to benefit him/herself so as to propel him/herself in his/her society, diba? Kinsa man dili gusto maka profit--or maka succeed? Kinsa man gusto ma poordoy sa kalingaw? Human nature man na, in my opinion.

It is the concept of human morality and ethics--when a person chooses to repress his selfish needs and instead of caring for himself first---considers the people and society around him as prime directive.

@ Frank. Good point--and I do agree, there are ALOT of people out there that only live for 'ME/ MYSELF/ I'. I personally abhor people with those kinds of attitudes and ethos, as I've come into contact with many in my life, already.
#53399
Health and Food / Re: Islam and Medicine
September 03, 2007, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: Mohandis Ban-alam on September 03, 2007, 12:13:14 PM
usa sa hinungdan nganong bogo na mga bag-ong generation sa mga muslim karon tungod anang inter family marriage...mga genes nila nagbalikbalik lang.

Sigor, pre, that is something I never even thought about or even knew! Tinuud diay na? Mo marry diay na sila with relatives? Ka ingoon ko custom ra man na sa royal family---pero common place diay na sa arab societies?

#53400
You know what is disgusting? The area where my college is located in--is home to the largest crystal meth centers in the US.

I've heard stories of young mothers doing it--and having miscarriages in their 4th and 5th months of pregnancies. Grabe kastanan pood na!

I dont know how and why anyone would willfully put toxic chemicals into their system!! Its dispicable because it not only affects them, but their immediate family and friends--financially and emotionally! I cant help but feel animosity towards drug users ...but a sense of sympathy.