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#43901

gikan ni lorenzo the cat model, naa na poy lorenzo the parrot.  what's in this name that makes it popular?

p.s.  those druglords must know their children's books, anyhow.  i found this editorial review:

From Publishers Weekly

"Well-crafted stories sprinkled with Spanish and set in Mexico depict the antics of a personable if pesky family parrot.  Lorenzo lives by a simple code: whatever he does, he does to protect and enrich the lives of his people.  To approaching visitors, "He squawked loudly as if to say . . .'Behave yourself or answer to me.' " In a notable, somewhat unusual picture-book device, Johnston presents four separate "chapters," in one of which--"La Reina"--Papa's repairs on his old car are interrupted by Lorenzo's unscheduled dip in the motor oil.  Although the children bathe the naughty bird, "the oil would take a long time to come off."  In another story, Lorenzo creates new decor underfoot when he leaves scratchy clawprints on the tiles Papa makes for Mama's new floor.  Rendered in chalky earth tones, Polito's illustrations, though tending toward the rudimentary, transmit a feeling that is at once exotic and familiar.  The security to be found in living everyday events in an uncomplicated manner shines through both text and pictures and conveys a feeling of comfort and warmth. Ages 6-12."
#43902
Quote from: bugsay on September 18, 2010, 09:47:17 AM
aw ehhh.....mas grabe pa diay sa baktin? ;D

sure na sure.  di man god makapon ang ulmigas.
#43903
Police seize parrot trained as drug gang lookout

A parrot in the Colombian city of Barranquilla has become a jail-bird after it was seized during a police drugs raid.

According to environmental authorities, Lorenzo the parrot was trying to tip-off a local drug cartel when officers conducted an undercover raid.

"This parrot was sending out alerts," said Environmental Police Officer Hollman Oliveira. "You could say he was some sort of watch bird."

Authorities claim Lorenzo is one of nearly 1700 parrots seized by officials after being trained by drug traffickers to act as lookouts.

Lorenzo caused quite the stir as he was presented to journalists. The well-trained creature even showed off his lookout skills as he yelled out: "Run, run you are going to get caught."

Police colonel Freddy Veloza told reporters: "He spent the whole morning saying that".

Despite Lorenzo's attempts, Veloza's officers still managed to seize more than two-hundred weapons, a stolen motorcycle and a large quantity of marijuana.

At least four men and two other birds were also arrested in the raids. (ITN)
#43904
Quote from: bugsay on September 18, 2010, 09:22:43 AM
kay ngano man diay ang umiga, ms isles....magpusotpusot sab?

usa gyod hinoon ka siyudad ning umigas.
#43905

thank heavens the president is not kris aquino whose love life is a circus sideshow.
#43906
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 17, 2010, 11:26:45 PM


hehehe, i know you guys are extremely adventurous.  you would go for an island in the stream with a windowless tower in the middle.
#43907

serenata, on the violin.
#43908

will never let it go.  (it's one of my top five favorite "easy reading" materials.)
#43909
Science and Research / Re: Digit of pi
September 17, 2010, 11:03:53 PM

whatever this means, it must be in english. ;D
#43910
Basketball | NBA-PBA / Re: Foul!
September 17, 2010, 10:48:53 PM

and i thought basketball was played with only one ball...
#43911
Quote from: bugsay on September 17, 2010, 09:50:56 PM
di na kahiwat nga duna na poy laing lumalakaw? ;D

umigas inyong ipasabot?
#43912
Inspiration & Hope / Re: Why You Worry; Do Not Worry
September 17, 2010, 10:15:35 PM

angay na paludhon ni si hubsay da.  gilamian uroy ning duha sa ilang tipas-tipas, hahaha!  mga x-rated ug nawong ay. 
#43913
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
September 17, 2010, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 17, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
He he, wa jud tawon ko mapiski anang mestizo blood, Malay ug Negrito ra tawon. Mamalbas na hinuon ko ron, dili sama sa bata pa ko nga ganahan ko magpabungot-bungot...

ajaw pagtuo nga mestizo ang guwapo.  colonial mentality ang tawag ana sa amo.  maangayan ka kaha anang imong colonial uniform kun di ka pa ing-anag hitsura, guwapo nga unpolluted ug dugo?
#43914
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 17, 2010, 01:37:45 PM
Against the Death Penalty: Christian Stance in a Secular World

Two general rules follow from respect for persons.  First, we cannot treat people as mere instruments to our survival, success or fulfillment.  Second, we must value in each individual his or her distinctively human capacity for moral agencyâ€"the ability to assess situations rationally, to make judgments about what is right and wrong, and to act according to those judgments.

***

...Moral agency, like any capacity, may be underdeveloped and poorly used; but when people act immorally, they are still moral agents in the sense intended here. Hence, even a wicked criminal deserves this fundamental respect.

***

Death is not a punishment to which reflective moral response is possible. A moral response to the certainty of death at sunrise is possible. But waiting to be executed is not the criminal’s punishment; death is.

***

Death terminates the possibility of moral reform. Therefore, insofar as the state is concerned, death terminates conscious life and cannot be considered a punishment prompting the offender to respond as a moral agent.  The death penalty therefore lacks an essential ingredient of just punishment.

***
Killing is not a coherent way for the community to solicit moral responses from those who have offended it. And since killing criminals is not a coherent way to solicit a moral response, it fails to hold offenders responsible. Thus, even though death is proportionate to death, killing killers violates the principle that justifies punishment in the first place.

http://www.religion-online.org

a good read, bai hubag.  thanks.

the points that stand out:

1.  we cannot treat people as mere instruments to our survival, success or fulfillment.

2.  death penalty lacks the essential ingredient of just punishment, which is moral reform.  because death terminates conscious life, it therefore terminates the possibility of moral reform.

3.  even if death deserves death, killing killers violates the principle that justifies punishment in the first place.

#43915
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
September 17, 2010, 09:13:22 PM

i'm head over heels crazy about his ears!
#43916
Quote from: ben on September 17, 2010, 09:02:26 AM
Islander, just a note to say that I like your well thought out posts.

There is also another issue in addition to the false convictions: giving the State too much power over the individual is very dangerous when the people in charge become megalomaniacs.  Then they can legally, through machinations, execute individuals that they find troublesome.

thanks, ben. 

yes, and a glaring example of false convictions vis-a-vis megalomania:  hitler and the holocaust.  the genocide was state-sanctioned by the third reich; the nazis had all the reasons in the world for condemning to death a people who were not of the aryan race.  had they won the war, history would have been written differently, at the world's peril.

#43917
Church positions

The three largest Christian denominations in the United States are split on the issue of capital punishment. The Roman Catholic Church opposes it in virtually all cases; the Southern Baptist Convention approves of it in certain cases; the United Methodist Church opposes it in all cases.

Here are the official position statements:

Roman Catholic:

2267. Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity with the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm-without definitively taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself-the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically non-existent." (From Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition, copyright © 1997, United States Catholic Conference, Inc., http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect2chpt2art5.htm)

Southern Baptist:

[A resolution adopted at the June, 2000 convention of The Southern Baptist Convention] affirms the use of capital punishment "by civil magistrates as a legitimate form of punishment for those guilty of murder or treasonous acts that result in death." The death penalty should be used only when there is "clear and overwhelming evidence of guilt," the proposal says. It also calls for "vigilance, justice and equity in the criminal justice system," with capital punishment "applied as justly and as fairly as possible without undue delay, without reference to the race, class or status of the guilty." (From  http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?Id=6002)

United Methodist:

Basic Freedoms and Human Rights

We hold governments responsible for the protection of the rights of the people to free and fair elections and to the freedoms of speech, religion, assembly, communications media, and petition for redress of grievances without fear of reprisal; to the right to privacy; and to the guarantee of the rights to adequate food, clothing, shelter, education, and health care. The form and the leaders of all governments should be determined by exercise of the right to vote guaranteed to all adult citizens. We also strongly reject domestic surveillance and intimidation of political opponents by governments in power and all other misuses of elective or appointive offices. The use of detention and imprisonment for the harassment and elimination of political opponents or other dissidents violates fundamental human rights. Furthermore, the mistreatment or torture of persons by governments for any purpose violates Christian teaching and must be condemned and/or opposed by Christians and churches wherever and whenever it occurs. For the same reason, we oppose capital punishment and urge its elimination from all criminal codes. (From The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church--2000, ¶164A. Copyright 2000 by The United Methodist Publishing House, http://www.umc.org/abouttheumc/policy/political/a-basicfreedoms.htm)

http://www.twopaths.com/faq_CapitalPunishment.htm

#43918
Arguments for and against capital punishment

Christians, and other churches, are divided on the issue of whether capital punishment is right or wrong. Some proponents of capital punishment see it as mandated by the Old Testament Law.   However, Christians are no longer bound by the Old Testament Law. The argument of a Biblical mandate for capital punishment is also contradicted by the fact that many of the capital crimes in the Old Testament are considered relatively minor today.  Very few people in the Christian world would support capital punishment for such things as doing work on the Sabbath, false prophecy or making false statements about a woman's virginity.

Many proponents of capital punishment interpret the phrase, "authority does not bear the sword in vain!" in Romans 13:1-5 as New Testament authority for capital punishment.  However, the point of this passage is that Christians must not use their freedom from the Old Testament religious Law as an excuse to violate the civil law. We must obey civil authority, which is instituted by God, because of fear of punishment as well as conscience (verse 5).

Opponents of capital punishment see it as exactly the kind of revenge and human judgment that Jesus and His apostles so often warned against. They believe the principles set forth by Jesus and the apostles restrict punishment to only that which is necessary to protect society (i.e., humane confinement of offenders).

Opponents of capital punishment also point out that Jesus taught great principles for us to apply in our lives, rather than specific laws. Thus, his failure to specifically condemn slavery, capital punishment and many other evils should not be interpreted as approval of those things. They see the mercy He showed to the woman caught in adultery (John 8:3-11) as His rejection of capital punishment. However, Jesus never specifically repudiated capital punishment.

Some opponents of capital punishment see a prohibition against capital punishment in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill" in the King James Version). The original Hebrew word ratsach, translated as "kill" or "murder" could refer to either killing in general or unlawful killing (murder). However, most authorities think this is not a prohibition against capital punishment because the death penalty is specifically authorized elsewhere in the Old Testament.

http://www.twopaths.com/faq_CapitalPunishment.htm

#43919
Quote from: statesville on September 17, 2010, 03:00:31 AM
                 On the book of Genesis 9, as quoted, I'm referring to verse 6 which I mentioned on page one but
                    not on the following page just an overlook.., yes verse 4 pertains to the blood of the beast..

              Genesis 9:6 = was the capital punishment as stated re:man's blood...(KJV of 1611)
              It's a fact that the Lord Himself instituted it to maintain an orderly society.

I really enjoy reading your posts, everybody is entitled to their own opinion and I respected that.... :)

as i enjoy reading yours, ms states.  one thing with forums like this is that we get to exchange ideas and opinions in the spirit of agreeing to disagree based on mutual respect for both our sameness and difference as we learn much from each other in the process. :D

and yes, genesis 9:5-6...

Quote from: statesville on September 11, 2010, 07:26:11 AM
"And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the
 hand of every beast will I require it, and  at the hand of man
 of every man's brother will I require the life of man"

"Whoso sheddedth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed;
 for in the image of God made he man"

What does the Bible say about capital punishment and the death penalty?

The Old Testament

Life was harsh for the Hebrews in early Old Testament history. They had just been freed from slavery in Egypt, and wandered in the desert for 40 years. When they finally reached the promised land they had to fight almost constantly to take and hold it. There were few options for dealing with offenders in a society that moved frequently and struggled just to survive. The penalty for most crimes was either death, beating or banishment from the tribe.

The Old Testament Law prescribed the death penalty for an extensive list of crimes including:

•   Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)
•   Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
•   Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)
•   Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
•   Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
•   Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
•   Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
•   Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
•   Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
•   Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
•   Prostitution by a priest's daughter (Leviticus 21:9)
•   Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
•   False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
•   Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19)
•   False claim of a woman's virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
•   Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy  
            22:23-24)

The New Testament

The New Testament does not have any specific teachings about capital punishment. However, the Old Testament ideas of punishment became secondary to Jesus' message of love and redemption.  Both reward and punishment are seen as properly taking place in eternity, rather than in this life.

Jesus said His mission was not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17-20).  However, He and His apostles greatly modified our understanding of God's intentions.  Love is the principle that must guide all our actions (Matthew 5:43-48, 22:34-40, Mark 12:28-34, Luke 10:25-28, Romans 13:9-10, Galatians 5:14).

Christians are bound by Jesus' commands to "Love the Lord your God" and "Love your neighbor as yourself."  We are no longer bound by the harsh Old Testament Law (John 1:16-17, Romans 8:1-3, 1 Corinthians 9:20-21).

Jesus flatly rejected the Old Testament principle of taking equal revenge for a wrong done (Matthew 5:38-41, Luke 9:52-56).  He also said that we are all sinners and do not have the right to pass judgment on one another (Matthew 7:1-5).  In the case of a woman caught in adultery (a capital offense), Jesus said to those who wanted to stone her to death,

"Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."  And once again he bent down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the elders; and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they?  Has no one condemned you?" She said, "No one, sir."  And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you. Go your way, and from now on do not sin again." (NRSV, John 8:7-11)

The apostle Paul also warned against taking revenge for a wrong done (Romans 12:17-21, 1 Thessalonians 5:15).  Likewise, the apostle Peter warned us not to repay evil with evil (1 Peter 3:9).

http://www.twopaths.com/faq_CapitalPunishment.htm







#43920
Quote from: statesville on September 17, 2010, 03:00:31 AM
You are very welcome Lorenzo   :D

@Ms Isles...God cursed Cain from the earth... (Gen 4:11)
                  a fugitive and a vagabond .......(verse 12)

cursed, yes, but does it also say that he was condemned to die at the hands of fellowmen, which in essence is what capital punishment by death is about?

#43921
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 17, 2010, 01:18:06 AM

For me, No-Way. That's my view. Period.


your view is hereby respected, period, but not believed, comma.  (you don't want any more discussion then, because of your 'period'?) ;D

well, gtg anyway.  it's 3 a.m. here.  see you tomorrow!
#43922
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 17, 2010, 01:18:06 AM
In the United States, everything matters. It's good to know where our hard-earned tax dollars are being used/ spent.

it's not as if in other countries not everything matters...  by the way, this thread is about the revival of the death penalty in the philippines, not about the united states where it exists.
#43923
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 17, 2010, 01:18:06 AM
It is a point worth considering. Funding these federal and state penitentiaries cost tax payer money, much of which could be used for developing and improving schools (much of which are under funded, and teachers being under-paid), for hospitals, roadway construction, as well as the aid of the dependent elderly under federal care.

it certainly is worth considering.  and the word is considering.  all these other government institutions have budgets, right? 
#43924
Amnesty International data:

137 countries have abolished the death penalty.

China, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the United States alone executed 1,252 people in 2007.  

Nearly 3,350 people were sentenced to death in 51 countries.

There are more than 20,000 prisoners on death row across the world.

1.  Death Penalty Outlawed (year)

•   Albania (2000)
•   Andorra (1990)
•   Angola (1992)
•   Argentina (2008)
•   Armenia (2003)
•   Australia (1984)
•   Austria (1950)
•   Azerbaijan (1998)
•   Belgium (1996)
•   Bhutan (2004)
•   Bosnia-Herzegovina (1997)
•   Bulgaria (1998)
•   Cambodia (1989)
•   Canada (1976)
•   Cape Verde (1981)
•   Chile (2008)
•   Colombia (1910)
•   Cook Islands (2007)
•   Costa Rica (1877)
•   Côte d'Ivoire (2000)
•   Croatia (1990)
•   Cyprus (1983)
•   Czech Republic (1990)
•   Denmark (1933)
•   Djibouti (1995)
•   Dominican Republic (1966)
•   East Timor (1999)
•   Ecuador (1906)
•   Estonia (1998)
•   Finland (1949)
•   France (1981)
•   Georgia (1997)
•   Germany (1949)
•   Greece (1993)
•   Guinea-Bissau (1993)
•   Haiti (1987)
•   Honduras (1956)
•   Hungary (1990)
•   Iceland (1928)
•   Ireland (1990)
•   Italy (1947)
•   Kiribati (1979)
•   Liberia (2005)
•   Liechtenstein (1987)
•   Lithuania (1998)
•   Luxembourg (1979)
•   Macedonia (1991)
•   Malta (1971)    
•   Marshall Islands (1986)
•   Mauritius (1995)
•   Mexico (2005)
•   Micronesia (1986)
•   Moldova (1995)
•   Monaco (1962)
•   Montenegro (2002)
•   Mozambique (1990)
•   Namibia (1990)
•   Nepal (1990)
•   Netherlands (1870)
•   New Zealand (1961)
•   Nicaragua (1979)
•   Niue (n.a.)
•   Norway (1905)
•   Palau (n.a.)
•   Panama (1903)
•   Paraguay (1992)
•   Poland (1997)
•   Portugal (1867)
•   Philippines (2006)
•   Romania (1989)
•   Rwanda (2007)
•   Samoa (2004)
•   San Marino (1848)
•   São Tomé and Príncipe (1990)
•   Senegal (2004)
•   Serbia (2002)
•   Seychelles (1993)
•   Slovak Republic (1990)
•   Slovenia (1989)
•   Solomon Islands (1966)
•   South Africa (1995)
•   Spain (1978)
•   Sweden (1921)
•   Switzerland (1942)
•   Turkey (2002)
•   Turkmenistan (1999)
•   Tuvalu (1978)
•   Ukraine (1999)
•   United Kingdom (1973)
•   Uruguay (1907)
•   Uzbekistan (2008)
•   Vanuatu (1980)
•   Vatican City (1969)
•   Venezuela (1863)

2.  Death Penalty Outlawed for Ordinary Crimes (year)

•   Bolivia (1997)
•   Brazil (1979)
•   Cook Islands (n.a.)
•   El Salvador (1983)
•   Fiji (1979)
•   Israel (1954)    
•   Kazakhstan (2007)
•   Kyrgyzstan (2007)
•   Latvia (1999)
•   Peru (1979)

3.  De Facto Ban on Death Penalty (year)

•   Algeria (1993)
•   Benin (1987)
•   Brunei Darussalam (1957)
•   Burkina Faso (1988)
•   Central African Republic (1981)
•   Congo (Republic) (1982)
•   Eritrea (n.a.)
•   Gabon (n.a.)
•   Gambia (1981)
•   Ghana (n.a.)
•   Grenada (1978)
•   Kenya (n.a.)
•   Korea, South (n.a.)
•   Laos (n.a.)
•   Liberia (n.a.)
•   Madagascar (1958)
•   Malawi (n.a.)
•   Maldives (1952)
•   Mali (1980)    
•   Mauritania (1987)
•   Morocco (1993)
•   Myanmar (1993)
•   Nauru (1968)
•   Niger (1976)
•   Papua New Guinea (1950)
•   Russia (1999)
•   Sri Lanka (1976)
•   Suriname (1982)
•   Swaziland (n.a.)
•   Tajikistan (n.a.)
•   Tanzania (n.a.)
•   Togo (n.a.)
•   Tonga (1982)
•   Tunisia (1990)
•   Zambia (n.a.)

4.  Death Penalty Permitted

•   Afghanistan
•   Antigua and Barbuda
•   Bahamas
•   Bahrain
•   Bangladesh
•   Barbados
•   Belarus
•   Belize
•   Botswana
•   Burundi
•   Cameroon
•   Chad
•   China (People's Republic)
•   Comoros
•   Congo (Democratic Republic)
•   Cuba
•   Dominica
•   Egypt
•   Equatorial Guinea
•   Eritrea
•   Ethiopia
•   Gabon
•   Ghana
•   Guatemala
•   Guinea
•   Guyana
•   India
•   Indonesia
•   Iran
•   Iraq
•   Jamaica
•   Japan
•   Jordan
•   Korea, North
•   Korea, South
•   Kuwait    
•   Laos
•   Lebanon
•   Lesotho
•   Libya
•   Malawi
•   Malaysia
•   Mongolia
•   Nigeria
•   Oman
•   Pakistan
•   Palestinian Authority
•   Qatar
•   St. Kitts and Nevis
•   St. Lucia
•   St. Vincent and the Grenadines
•   Saudi Arabia
•   Sierra Leone
•   Singapore
•   Somalia
•   Sudan
•   Swaziland
•   Syria
•   Taiwan
•   Tajikistan
•   Tanzania
•   Thailand
•   Trinidad and Tobago
•   Uganda
•   United Arab Emirates
•   United States
•   Vietnam
•   Yemen
•   Zambia
•   Zimbabwe







#43925
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 17, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
I lean towards the thinking of Prof. Ernest van den Haag, the finality of it all. In regards to the tax payers' point of view (which falls in line with republican, libertarian viewpoint), we refer to the costs in running federal penitentiaries , which are tax dollars. The cost to feed, bathe, and maintain sustenance for people serving a life sentence or on long-term death row is quite large. These tax dollars should be spent to help the homeless, the starving children in the United States, add it to Medicaid, Medicare , and to the hundreds of federally-funded free clinics, VA hospitals that do help in sustaining the health of the tax-paying, law-abiding citizens of the United States.

Then again, on a secondary point of view, I like Van den Haag's emphasis of the finality of death penalty. In regards to opponent points of 'inhumanity', I think Van den Haag truly addressed it perfectly.

reading the good professor's well-researched and well-thought out piece is truly convincing.  that is, if we do not read it in the context of a myriad of other points, both pro and con.  but economic considerations?  that for me is the worst of reasons.       
#43926
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 16, 2010, 10:13:09 AM
Among the innocents they list Sacco and Vanzetti as well as Ethel and Julius Rosenberg. Although their data may be questionable, I do not doubt that, over a long enough period, miscarriages of justice will occur even in capital cases.

"If it had not been for this thing, I might have lived out my life talking at street corners to scorning men.  I might have died, unmarked, unknown, a failure.  Now we are not a failure.  This is our career and our triumph. Never in our full life can we hope to do such work for tolerance, justice, for man's understanding of man, as now we do by accident. Our words - our lives - our pains - nothing!  The taking of our lives - lives of a good shoemaker and a poor fish peddler - all!  That last moment belong to us - that agony is our triumph.” (Bartolomeo Vanzetti)

Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti were executed on 23rd August 1927.  On that day, over 250,000 people took part in a silent demonstration in Boston.

Fifty years later, on 23rd August 1977, Michael Dukakis, the governor of Massachusetts, issued a proclamation  effectively absolving the two men of the crime. (Spartacus Educational)
#43927
Quote from: magbalantay on September 16, 2010, 08:01:38 AM
 ;D ;D ;D wa man jud koi ikatampu ana oi....basta verse na sa bible ang paghisgutan. ;D ;D  

  Basta pra naho, okay ko nga i-restore ang death penalty. This will serve as a reminder oi sa mga tawong wai atay....... wai batikon....wai kasingkasing! They don't deserve to live.

    kanang mosakwahi sa death penalty, ibutang kuno ang inmong kaugalingon nga usa sa imong hinigugma, gi-murder. klaro2x jud ha ng gipatay siya anang tawhana. Naka witness pa jud ka. Oks ra ka?  Basta prisohon lang, okay na? :D

yes, oks na oks ra nako, mags.  simbako lang intawon ug mahinabo, palayo, but hypothetically it would be fine by me; justice will be served with life imprisonment without parole.  besides, kung witness ko, matulala tingali ko mao nga di na pod ko tingali reliable nga witness. 

manimbako lang ta ha?  ikaw, kung imong hinigugma ang murderer, witness pa gyod ka sa iyang pag-murder, oks ra pod ka nga bitayon siya?  di ka mag-ampo nga prisohon na lang?:D
#43928
Quote from: statesville on September 16, 2010, 05:49:47 AM
Cain the first murderer was not killed by God but being punished with a mark --Gen 4:15
God did not set up the capital punishment during those time but it was instituted after the flood-- Gen 9:4, 5

At present generation, the mark of Cain is a symbol for those who refused to
   get saved and come to the saving knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
    but rather take the mark of the beast.

and wasn't cain's mark as a punishment also placed there by god “…to prevent him from being killed by anyone who would meet him.” (Genesis 4:1- 16)?

genesis 9:4-5 says:

4 "Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood."
5 "Surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from every man, from every man's brother I will require the life of man. (New American Standard)

4 "Only flesh with its lifeblood still in it you shall not eat."
5 "For your own lifeblood, too, I will demand an accounting: from every animal I will demand it, and from man in regard to his fellow man I will demand an accounting for human life." (New American Bible)

is god's law for capital punishment intrinsic in these passages, after the flood?

p.s.  these are bible passages, like any other passages, that are interpreted to fit one's beliefs.  vegetarians and anti-animal cruelty advocates use these, too.  so do religions and sects that forbid the consumption of animal blood as food (the iglesia ni cristo, for one).  meanwhile, we filipino catholics enjoy heaps of 'dinuguan' during feasts of our patron saints.  and there's the german blutwurst... 



#43929
Quotable Quotes / Re: Love Quote of the Day
September 15, 2010, 10:28:22 PM

A man in love is not complete until he is married. Then he is finished.
                       
                                                                                -Zsa Zsa Gabor
#43930
Quotable Quotes / Re: Love Quote of the Day
September 15, 2010, 10:15:14 PM

and from ambrose bierce, mark twain's contemporary and fellow humorist, love is:

A temporary insanity curable by marriage or by removal of the patient from the influences under which he incurred the disorder. This disease is prevalent only among civilized races living under artificial conditions; barbarous nations breathing pure air and eating simple food enjoy immunity from its ravages. It is sometimes fatal, but more frequently to the physician than to the patient.
#43931

as the thread asks for one's preference, my answer is no, i don't prefer it.  besides, i can't imagine my parents choosing who i'd live with for the rest of my life.
#43932

whaaat?  already behaving like bloodthirsty brats?  i hope they do just that, a mass walkout, and not come back.  does it mean that legislators can defy the supreme court just because they're asking for somebody's head?
#43933
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
September 15, 2010, 09:29:58 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
Unsay inyong duwa, Ms. Isle? Cat and mouse?  ::)

Quote from: vhinz08 on September 15, 2010, 09:13:20 PM
Tom and Jerry  ;D

hubag and vhinz. ;D
#43934
Weird and Extreme / Re: The Most Terrifying Dog
September 15, 2010, 09:03:18 PM

he has a gentle face.  i hope humans are kind to him.
#43935
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 09:00:11 PM
hanggaw.  naa ka pay gitapigan diha.  kining morag kamong duha ni bugsay:


jewelry title:  the two captains
#43936

one of england's most loved poems happens to be one of my favorites too.

He Wishes For The Cloths Of Heaven

William Butler Yeats

Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half-light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.



William Butler Yeats
#43937
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 07:36:17 PM
Sayang nga gi-snatch imong earrings, unya nabitas pa jud imong dunggan...  :P

mao bitaw nga naghuwat-huwat lang ko intawon nga imo na untang iuli akong earrings. ;D
#43938
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 15, 2010, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 07:34:11 PM
Gilugpitan sa bilahan...  :-\

asows, ilara ko tits.  ang gilugpitan sa bilahan mobile phone uy. ;D
#43939
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
September 15, 2010, 07:41:18 PM

had my scheduled volunteer work at the cat shelter. 
   **primary function:  playing with the cats and kittens so they'll get used to humans, readying them for adoption.  result:  morag mas nairing kog sinundog sa ilang meow. 
   **secondary function:  cleaning.  result:  morag nanimaho kong taeg iring pag-uli.

shopped for lettuce leaves, grated cheese, some bread, cat food, and cat litter amid a pounding rain.  whew!
#43940
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 07:28:44 PM
He he, kining nangodak, si Ms. Isle ni nga nagtakoban, Bay Vhinz. Without the disguise, mao ni siya, below:



;D


ahem.  you could at least say that my make-up is perfect and my beads are rare. ;D
#43941
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 15, 2010, 07:28:37 PM

lami gyod tuod ang ice cream nga giingon ni hubag.

#43942
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 15, 2010, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 07:10:43 PM
Ice cream nga parat-parat, aslom-aslom?  :P

giunsa man diay pagdala sa ice cream, gilugpitan sa ilok?
#43943
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 07:15:16 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 07:00:59 PM
He he, basin tuod gabitaybitay pa ka diha sa gigunitan sa ubos...  ;D

tumuong pahak.  captain na na si bai vhinz anang panahona. ;D
#43944
Facts and Trivia / Re: Wrong Person to Mug
September 15, 2010, 06:53:37 PM

aw, hinoon, kun ang tanod 'wrong person to mug', right person to tasa ang gawas, okay ra gihapon.  tasa nga taas-taas man pod hinoon ning mug, ajeje.
#43945
General Topic / Re: Unique Knife Block Design
September 15, 2010, 06:09:57 PM
Quote from: BolBuhol on September 15, 2010, 05:40:58 PM
ngano man gid na pirmi gali naa litra tuli bisan diindiin man konga hingbasahan ga porum

sorry po, bolbs.  naa mang gung tanod laing nga nagahambal nga ang mga whitey tinuod bang wang tuli.  nagareklamo ang pinoy nga wang tuli nahisalaag sang laing mga tanod subong. :-[
#43946
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: vhinz08 on September 15, 2010, 05:30:38 PM
;D  Asa man si Bay Hubag  ug si Bay Bugsay diri Ms. Isles?  Murag ikaw ang ga kuha ug picture nilang duha.    ;D


tinuod, bai vhinz, ako ni.  nag-costume aron ko makaduol nilang hubag ug bugsay.  si bugsay ang gamay-gamay, si hubag ang dako-dako.  puro gabitay, puro guwapo. 


ay, vhinz, ayaw mi pikati dinha bi...
#43947
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 15, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
que que? uwawon dyay ka? shocking news, indeed.

si, si.  ayaw lang ka-shock palihog kay the world is already full of shocks and tremors up to intensity 7.  aaarrrgghhhh, please, please... take that kryptonite away... it's making me weak... ;D
#43948
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 15, 2010, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 05:23:30 AM
Tan-awa kon kana bay mga nawong nga angay latigohon...





8)
aw, di gyod hinoon, sa gagmay pa mo.  pero, karon?  pagi is tame.  angay ninyo, truck de carga ang ilatos. ;D



hubag ug bugsay padung latoson

#43949
General Topic / Re: Naa pa bay manok ihalas karon?
September 15, 2010, 04:54:11 PM
morag si britney spears nga naggamit ug hair extensions.
#43950
Facts and Trivia / Re: Wrong Person to Mug
September 15, 2010, 04:51:38 PM
Quote from: vrglguapo on September 15, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Maayo ra kulang pa jud nahitabo nila,kining mga tawo nga masakpan nga magbuhat sa ingon maayo jud putlan ug kamot...
He tied my hand with a wire and he went to Captain room take all the money take my watch and all the portable radio equipment.Satisfied they went outboard from the ship quitely just like when they came..

horrors!  luckily they went quietly and not with a bang.  i thought these stories are only to be read in newspapers, not on tb by tb people.  glad you came out well and hale. 
#43951
Facts and Trivia / Re: Wrong Person to Mug
September 15, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 02:58:33 PM
Ikaw, mugger?


  laugh now, because you'll end up this way after i mug you! ;D
#43952
Quote from: www.tubagbohol.com on September 15, 2010, 03:17:46 PM
Stupid Pres. Nixon. How could he say the picture was doctored when there wasn't Photoshop yet at that time, let alone a PC.

maybe he thought it was his daughter patricia who was running. ;D
#43953


the award-winning photographer, nick ut, and 'the girl in the picture' about 30 years after


A Happy Ending to a Sad Iconic Photo

"Forgiveness made me free from hatred. I still have many scars on my body and severe pain most days but my heart is cleansed. Napalm is very powerful, but faith, forgiveness, and love are much more powerful. We would not have war at all if everyone could learn how to live with true love, hope, and forgiveness. If that little girl in the picture can do it, ask yourself: Can you?"

                                                â€" Kim Phúc, on Canada's National PUblic Radio in 2008

#43954


the award-winning photographer and 'the girl in the picture'
#43955
The 'Girl in the Picture' Grows Up

As a young adult, while studying medicine, Phúc was removed from her university and used as a propaganda symbol by the communist government of Vietnam.  In 1986, however, she was granted permission to continue her studies in Cuba.  She had converted from her family's Cao Dai religion to Christianity four years earlier.  Phạm Văn Đá»"ng, the thenâ€"Prime Minister of Vietnam, became her friend and patron.

After arriving in Cuba, she met Bui Huy Toan, another Vietnamese student and her future fiancé.  In 1992, Phúc and Toan married and went on their honeymoon.  During a refuelling stop in Gander, Newfoundland, they left the plane and asked for political asylum in Canada.  It was granted.

The couple now live in Ajax, Ontario, and have two children. In 1996, Phúc met the surgeons who had saved her life. The following year, she passed the Canadian Citizenship Test with a perfect score and became a Canadian citizen. (from wikipedia)



#43956

President Nixon on the 'Napalm Girl'

Audio tapes of then-president Richard Nixon, in conversation with his chief of staff, H. R. Haldeman, reveal that Nixon doubted the authenticity of the photograph, thinking it might have been "fixed." 

After the release of this tape, Út commented, "Even though it has become one of the most memorable images of the twentieth century, President Nixon once doubted the authenticity of my photograph when he saw it in the papers on 12 June 1972.... The picture for me and unquestionably for many others could not have been more real. The photo was as authentic as the Vietnam war itself.  The horror of the Vietnam war recorded by me did not have to be fixed. That terrified little girl is still alive today and has become an eloquent testimony to the authenticity of that photo. That moment thirty years ago will be one Kim Phúc and I will never forget.  It has ultimately changed both our lives." (from wikipedia)

#43957
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 09:59:52 AM
Here's another iconic image of the Vietnam conflict:


8 June 1972: Kim Phúc, center left, running down a road near Trang Bang after a South Vietnamese Air Force napalm attack. (Nick Ut /AP)

'The Girl in the Picture'

Phan Thị Kim Phúc (born 1963) and her family were residents of the village of Trang Bang, South Vietnam.  On June 8, 1972, South Vietnamese planes, in coordination with the American military, dropped a napalm bomb on Trang Bang, which had been attacked and occupied by North Vietnamese forces.  Phúc joined a group of civilians and South Vietnamese soldiers who were fleeing from the Cao Dai Temple to the safety of South Vietnameseâ€"held positions.  A South Vietnamese Air Force pilot mistook the group for enemy soldiers and diverted to attack.  The bombing killed two of Phúc's cousins and two other villagers.

Associated Press photographer Nick Út earned a Pulitzer Prize for his photograph of the aftermath. It also was chosen as the World Press Photo of the Year for 1972.  The image of Phúc running naked amid the chaos became one of the most haunting images of the Vietnam War.  In an interview many years later, she recalled she was yelling, "Nóng quá, nóng quá" ("too hot, too hot") in the picture.

After snapping the photograph, Út took Kim Phúc and the other injured children to Barsky Hospital in Saigon, where it was determined that her burns were so severe that she probably would not survive.  After a 14-month hospital stay and 17 surgical procedures, however, she was able to return home.  Út continued to visit her until he was evacuated during the fall of Saigon, three years later. (from wikipedia)


#43958
Question and Answer / Re: Have you ever fired a gun?
September 15, 2010, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 11:42:37 AM
Mirising sa imong giting...  ;D


na, hala, mirisi sa imong gangisi.
nga tuli. ;D
#43959
General Topic / Re: Unique Knife Block Design
September 15, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 15, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
Libog akong kutaw ani nga syntax. Kinsay nilikay, ang kutsilyo o ang tulionon?  ???

take the syntax as is.  kutsilyo ang nilikay, okay?  ayaw na lang lisod-lisora kay di man heat-seeking missile ang kutsilyo.  aw, abi pa lang, bugnaw ug itlog si manoy. ;D
#43960
Quote from: statesville on September 15, 2010, 12:43:57 AM
Though the Judicial system we have in the Phils. is full of flaws and corruption and the poor oftentimes
  becomes the sacrificial lambs of the real guilty ones but the Lord knows it all.

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment"...Hebrew 9:27
     They might get away with crime on this world but not when they face the Lord;
          they will be in the unquenchable eternal flame of hell.

while the philippine judicial system is not perfect (it's not exactly "full of flaws and corruption" either) so is it in all other countries on this planet.  judicial systems are inherently imperfect by virtue of their being man-made, though some are better than others.

let the lord be the judge, then, on who gets to live or die, because "he knows it all".  there's the "unquenchable eternal flame of hell" waiting for those who "get away with crimes of this world" anyway.  why should the decision of punishment by death be in the hands of an imperfect judicial system?
 
#43961
more:

Capital punishment is in the same category as abortion and euthanasia. They are a premeditated taking away of human life, and are, therefore, immoral.  It is bad enough for society to lose one person, but worse to lose yet another, for whatever reason.  The end does not justify the means. Whether the death penalty is legal is no reason for resorting to it or to upholding it.

The death penalty has an inherent weakness of injustice, since the weak and poor are more easily proven guilty than the rich and more powerful. That people continue to kill in spite of the application of capital punishment as a deterrent is an indicator that we are only tackling a problem at the level of symptoms than of the root cause.  Killing by the state sets a bad precedence and promotes mob justice.  The modern state is better placed to curb crime than the old state.

Putting aside the religious perspective for a moment, the author also makes this excellent point:

Life imprisonment makes more sense.  The culprit can repent and even earn a living for the aggrieved family. Says Bishop David B. Thomson: “Capital punishment feeds the cycle of violence in society by pandering to a lust for revenge.  It brutalizes us and deadens our sensitivities to the precious nature of every single human life.” 

     -(from Religious Opposition to the Death Penalty, excerpted by Talk Left, The Politics of Crime, from the Monitor, Feb. 15, 2005, underscoring mine)
#43962
Quote from: statesville on September 15, 2010, 12:43:57 AM
The vicarious death of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross was the fulfillment of the scripture.
The Lord Jesus has no sin, he offered His own blood to atone the sins of the whole world.

"So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him
    shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation"..Hebrew 9:27

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we yet sinners,
       Christ died for us"...Romans 5:8


it's nice to be reminded of the religious perspective of christ's death.  from the historical perspective, though,  it was still capital punishment that he went through because he was accused of a crime, which for believers of course doesn't negate the fact that it was written in the scriptures.  needless to say, we cannot say the same thing of today's criminals whose deaths are state-sanctioned.

these points may be worth one's while:

       The story of Cain and Abel is a very clear manifestation of the seriousness of this commandment. After Cain had murdered his brother Abel, God punished him, not by death, but by banishing him from the land whereby Cain became a wanderer.  But, God also went ahead to “…put mark on him to prevent him from being killed by anyone who would meet him.” (Genesis 4:1- 16).

       By his own example, God denounces justice based on vengeance and violence.  “We cannot teach that killing is wrong by killing,” says Pope John Paul II.  The death penalty perpetuates the very evil it is trying to terminate. The practice and promotion of the death penalty is a reflection of the ‘culture of death’ of our times. The act of killing a person is intrinsically an evil, whether lawfully or unlawfully, by a murderer or by the state.  It is the reasons that make it appear different.

             -(from Religious Opposition to the Death Penalty, excerpted by Talk Left, The Politics of Crime, from the Monitor, Feb. 15, 2005)
#43963
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 14, 2010, 10:41:09 PM

tiwasa ug pakita ang produkto sa imong pagka-paparazzo, o captain, my captain hubag.  ang sunod nga scene ani kay nag-upside down flying ninja kick man ko. ;D

#43964
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 03:02:30 PM
Imong miga pangutan-a...  8)

di usa ko mangutana ni scarbzy kay naguol siya karong adlawa.  si ms da binsi pod busy pag painting.  si bugsay kaha?
#43965
Facts and Trivia / Re: Wrong Person to Mug
September 14, 2010, 10:09:48 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 01:40:30 PM
]

Kay ngano, mugging victim na diay ka, Ms. Isle?  ???

thank heavens, swerte pa intawon ko.  gusto lang unta ko mosuway kun unsa ning kitay mugger.  best gyod nga ala-chuck norris ang mugger, di bwa? ;D
#43966
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 14, 2010, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 03:01:21 PM
Peztulum walam kabutum? Cum mahalubutum, walam cum labutum!  ;D

ngangam, hubagum, adelantem kinumom.
#43967
General Topic / Re: Bonjour and Hasta La Vista Baby
September 14, 2010, 09:56:13 PM

i'm so sorry about your ate, scarbzy.  my prayers for her speedy recovery and for your strength to bear your distance.
#43968

sana may pera sa lahat ng sulok sa bahay.  makikita ko talaga. ;D
#43969
General Topic / Re: Unique Knife Block Design
September 14, 2010, 09:47:23 PM

maayo na lang way dugo.  bisan gani ang tulionon gilikayan intawon.
#43970
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Photos of your Pets
September 14, 2010, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Lollapalooza on September 14, 2010, 09:23:16 PM

kani na pod imo sir hubs? what happened to mr. froggy?

it looks like his taste has improved, palooz. ;D
#43971
Quote from: Scarb on September 14, 2010, 07:47:01 PM
Mas miangay kos greenbatkite sa totoo lang ky unique pagkahimo tabanoga..realistic kaau..lisod baya na paghimo tali ana ..more pa..

daan pa lagi kong type ni miga scarbzy ang kwaknit.  hala, angzo ra ba ni siya kay magtuwad kun mangihi. ;D
#43972
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 07:38:41 PM
Dili kaha ni ikaw, Ms. Isle?





;D

krusmayhart, di gyod.  pigtails man nang nanggawas, di bungot.
#43973
kagud!

#43974
Technology / Re: Why You Love Your Computer
September 14, 2010, 06:49:46 PM

because it's better than a typewriter.
#43975
Facts and Trivia / Re: 4 Word Sentence
September 14, 2010, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 05:33:23 PM
Oy, dili looy oy.

Kay maka lolo oy!  ;D

lulu diay iyang ngan?
#43976
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Imagination
September 14, 2010, 05:39:07 PM

awom nga pink.
#43977
Love Talk / Re: An Open Letter for an Unknown Man
September 14, 2010, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 05:25:14 PM
Please refer to reply #464 this thread...  ;D

mao bwa?  kuha gajud dajun sa ekspertong hubs. ;D
#43978
Facts and Trivia / Re: 4 Word Sentence
September 14, 2010, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: BolBuhol on September 14, 2010, 03:52:52 PM
akon gid nga palanga      kaloyan mon gid ako

dugay ra siyang nalooy.

dugay ra siyang makalolooy.
#43979
Love Talk / Re: An Open Letter for an Unknown Man
September 14, 2010, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: Scarb on September 14, 2010, 04:19:46 PM
Unknown Man, anhi nga suwat gid To.. ;)

dia ra ang lawak para kang Nene mo gid;
http://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/love-dating/an-open-love-letter-for-an-unknown-woman/826/

nagduda na ko nga ang ngan sa lalaki nene. ;D 
#43980
Quotable Quotes / Re: Ang pagka mapahiubsanon....
September 14, 2010, 05:16:59 PM

kun ako pasultihon, bai bolbs, mahimo man sad tingali ug english, tagalog, spanish, latin, etc.  masabtan na tanan sa imong migo nga si bai hubag. ;D 
#43981
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 01:33:50 PM
He he, morag nagpa plastic surgery na...  :-X

breast implants, apil? ;D
#43982
Poems and Poets / Re: A Poem...
September 14, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 02:29:03 PM
Kon maohon, nahikalimot na jud diay sa yutik nga kalibotan sa kasakit...

nahiagom na sa binhod tungod sa tumang kasakit.
#43983
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 14, 2010, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 02:42:31 PM
Zeriluk an nam in omi rednalsi io.  8)

"kulirez na man ni imo islander oi." (hubag's, pinabali.) 

peztulum, latin kana.  huwag isnabin.  unsa man diay imong gusto, inom tubom, sumsum babom? ;D
#43984
General Topic / Re: The World of Fantasy
September 14, 2010, 02:41:52 PM
lagubo lagi akong dughan nga nagtan-aw aning imong fantasy scene, bai hubs.  morag end of the world. :(
#43985
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 14, 2010, 02:39:15 PM

mas katohoan pa nga si hubag ug bugsay ang nakatilaw ug ikog sa pagi. ;D 
#43986
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 14, 2010, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 02:23:27 PM
Aw, ikog sa pagi diay ang gigamit...  :'(

ooops, swerte pa ko.  di si indiana jones akong papa. ;D
#43987
Introduce Yourself / Re: Newbie, here.
September 14, 2010, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 01:06:40 PM
He he, way lingaw...



Botoy The Bored Bonobo...

dili bored ang magsaka-kanaog ang ikog.  kontento na, morag nakainom. ;D
#43988
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 14, 2010, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
He he, eco condannato per una donna redenta...  ;D


viva, italia!  cinque scritti morali. 
#43989
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 14, 2010, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 02:05:37 PM
He he, seguradong nakatilaw kag bakos kon maohon...  :'(


unsaon paglatos nga ako man ang naggunit sa bakos kay naapil mag kuha sa karsones? ;D
#43990
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 02:06:43 PM
He he, nakigkukabildo man kag zombie, Ms. Isle...  :P

way kalainan sa mga krokongho sa lain nga tanod (scarbzy's term) nga nakigkukabildo ug sex dolls, ajeje (scarbzy's expression)! ;D
#43991
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 14, 2010, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Duda ko nga tungod kay shy moderetso lang sa bulsa sa gibitay nga karsones kon way nakakita...  ;D

mantiniran ug bulsa?  kun ako lang, ang tibuok karsones nga gibitay na lang ang akong kuhaon. ;D
#43992
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 14, 2010, 01:59:16 PM

quam ad itineramus com esicia adque alius progymnasmae, hubag. ;D
#43993
Love Talk / Re: An Open Love Letter To An Unknown Woman
September 14, 2010, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 05:57:02 AM
Impas na man nang mawati, he he. Ut est Insula a dies pro!  ;D


aahhh, by umberto eco. ;D
#43994

no.  alcohol, tobacco, and gambling are bad enough.  why add another layer to these legalized vices?
#43995
as sure as i'm sitting here, it is not always, in fact, it is not forever, especially that the president you're talking about is already in congress.

p.s. zotrim slimming pills may cause lbm and dehydration.  caveat emptor.
#43996
Facts and Trivia / Re: Your Last Word Is Mine!
September 14, 2010, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: hubag bohol on September 14, 2010, 12:52:13 PM
Tuliay unta, pero ingon sila makasawot ni junior ang tuli, mao nga pisotay na lang ta karon...  :P

karon, kinsa tong mga pisot dinhi, panindog mo; uy, nag-una man si hubag, bugsay ug tigbao... ayayaaay, tua, nanagan dayon kay mahadlok tulion! ;D     
#43997
Introduce Yourself / Re: Newbie, here.
September 14, 2010, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: cujo on September 14, 2010, 12:46:43 PM
Mr.Ribbit you make me laugh.You always monkeying around. ;D

i'm beginning to believe he's a real monkey, cuj. ;D
#43999
Poems and Poets / Re: O Captain! My Captain!
September 14, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: Lorenzo on September 14, 2010, 12:04:16 PM
...and you being so diligent in remembering this, did you not do the same?


unfortunately, i was shy (sigh), unlike my older sister. :(   
#44000
dear st. agnes,

we are lucky, we are all blessed here in tb, for the privilege of witnessing your courage and faith.  thank you very much.

our prayers,

islander


my favorite personal reminder at all times: 

"The Will of God will not take you where the Grace of God will not protect you."