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#38701
Bible Study / Re: Original sin or Innocence
April 30, 2009, 10:37:49 AM
I am surprised in this post, Mr. Daray.

I will state my case:


Islam is a faulted religion.

As it promises materialistic things.

It promises 100 virgins for men in Heaven. When does God promise materialistic things?
Nowhere does God tell us in The Old Testament or New Testament that he will provide us with materialistic things such as Virgin women.

No where!

The Heaven that Islam promises is a Brothel House:


“As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.” (Koran 78:31)

“...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.” (Koran 37:40-48)

“...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris (beautiful virgins).” (Koran 44:51-55)

“...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...” (Koran 52:17-20)

“In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?" (Koran 55:56-57)

“Virgins as fair as corals and rubies.  Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?" (Koran 55:57-58)

“...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand...” (Koran 56:7-40)

"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jinn will have touched before...” (Koran 55:70-77)

“Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.” (Koran 52:24)

“Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.” (Koran 56:17)

“And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.” (Koran 76:19)

---

I repeat, the Heaven that Muhammad promises in Islam is not heaven. But a brothel house. A den for whores and prostitutes. A Den of Sin.

The environment that the heaven in Islam promises is the same as a house in Sodom and Gamorrah. Sodom and Gamorrah were the two cities that the Lord God Most High smote into oblivion for their sexual sins and blasphemies.

God Doe snot promise materialistic treasures in Heaven. Let alone sexual satisfaction.

That belongs to the Devil. Satan the serpant. May the Lord God REBUKE him!





#38702
The 'Le Boulet De Canon' Tactic.
This was a favorite of Empereur Napoleon du Bonaparte


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWzp6wuiE1g


Exquisite tactical precision.
#38703
Compadre Glacier,

Yo Saludo a ti. Saludo mas.

Excelente !
#38704
Cars and Automotive / Re: What Killed Pontiac (GM)
April 30, 2009, 08:56:34 AM
O man, i cant believe this.

#38705
Bible Study / Re: A Warrior's Song
April 30, 2009, 08:35:08 AM
Ah the incredible Mr. Gary Valenciano!

Excellent share~
#38706
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
April 30, 2009, 08:32:14 AM
Quote from: glacier_71 on April 30, 2009, 04:25:23 AM
went to downtown to buy some groceries. on my way back, got bored while driving, so i turned my car stereo on, listening some of my fav music. and dropped the gas pedal down...and away i went. passed 50 cars before i reached my destination. exhilarating.

hahaha, make sure you watched both ways man. Gotta watch out for those pesky cops.
How was the 'flooring' experience? got the testosterone level up high eh ?

hahaha, when im in the road and a person in front of me is slow, i tend to tail gait. ya i know. its bad.


Today, I went out with group of friends. Went to the beach and got our Vit Ds. Hung out with Sheryll today. Talked n stuff.
#38707
Poems and Poets / Re: Mother's Day Poems
April 30, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
Mom's Love



To some love is just a word
To me it's a feeling
A feeling I get every time I look into your eyes
A feeling I get when I realize your my mom
A mom who loves, shares, A mom who inspires
Unconditionally
What's that?
That's love
A mothers love, but only you would know
And me
You returned that love time and time again
Possibly to much, nevertheless you did
Thank-you
Thank-you for being there when I needed you most
For being my rock when I should have been yours
Thank-you for believing in me, even when I doubted myself
For being the one person I could trust
No matter what, no matter where
But most of all thank-you for being you-my mom
A mom I am so proud to claim
I love you
Now and forever
#38708
Poems and Poets / Mother's Day Poems
April 30, 2009, 08:23:19 AM
Poems dedicated for our mommys, mamas, mom, inay, inahan~

I Love you, Mommy~~
#38709
Glacier mi compadre y amigo,

I wait for that day because I know you will outperform.
An eloquent poet like yourself that can bequeth any woman's heart,
am sure that you can sing the song.

Pohon both of us can do a duo. Forgive me lang kai my voice isn't as great as Martin's or all the other great Filipino singers out there.

Glacier, we wait for your songs.

(and also for more balaks, lol)



Recentemente ja voy,
Bran Lorenzo Salvo y Lucino
#38710
Well Id rather have mommy join facebook than TB.

I found out from my sis that my mom frequents this site.

All my poems and my letters i wrote, naka read sigoro si mommy adto.

patay ko.

hahahahaaaaa!
#38711
Bible Study / Re: Majesty
April 30, 2009, 07:39:54 AM
hahaha, mao ba! I didnt know you went to World Youth Day 1995?! :D

I went to WYD 2002. Daghang pilipino didto ning attend, man.
#38712
Photos Unlimited / Re: Look At The Trees
April 30, 2009, 07:37:23 AM
Quote from: chicogon on April 29, 2009, 12:01:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmEwNLyDA4

Backgrounder:

This song was written while driving on the way to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, one springtime day. The scenery was so beautiful and striking that it kept feeding thoughts in my mind. The mental phrase, "Look at the trees," just never left my mind even long after that leisurely drive. It got hooked on me and I to it.

The original material was actually recorded "live" at St. Rita's Church with the school children, then later on dubbed in additional sounds (i.e., pan flute, bass and additional guitars) in my studio to create more sonic atmosphere to the song in general.

Words and music by Rev. J. Roel Lungay

Vocals and all arrangement by J. Roel Lungay

Back-up vocals by St. Rita School Kindergarten Classes 1993-1994


1
Look at the trees
See how they grow
Sign that springtime has come,
It's a sign of God's love for you;
Sign that springtime has come,
It's a sign of God's love for you.

2
Look at those birds up in the sky
Singing sweet melodies;
They are singing for you and me.
Singing sweet melodies,
Just like daddy and mommy.

(Interlude)

3
Look at the sun
Feel all its warmth;
God is reaching for you,
God's touching you.
God is reaching for you,
God's touching you.

4
Look at the rain falls on dry land,
God is nourishing you,
God cares about you;
God is nourishing you,
God cares about you.

(Interlude)

5
Now look at yourselves,
See when you smile (Yes, when I smile)
God is smiling in you;
God's joy in your heart.
When God's joy in your heart,
God is smiling in you.


Copyright © 1993 Fro’s Music


Very inspiring to know that you wrote the lyrics in your mind as you drove, Sir.

#38713
Photos Unlimited / Re: Look At The Trees
April 30, 2009, 07:34:04 AM
Quote from: chicogon on April 29, 2009, 12:01:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmEwNLyDA4

Backgrounder:

This song was written while driving on the way to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, one springtime day. The scenery was so beautiful and striking that it kept feeding thoughts in my mind. The mental phrase, "Look at the trees," just never left my mind even long after that leisurely drive. It got hooked on me and I to it.

The original material was actually recorded "live" at St. Rita's Church with the school children, then later on dubbed in additional sounds (i.e., pan flute, bass and additional guitars) in my studio to create more sonic atmosphere to the song in general.

Words and music by Rev. J. Roel Lungay

Vocals and all arrangement by J. Roel Lungay

Back-up vocals by St. Rita School Kindergarten Classes 1993-1994


1
Look at the trees
See how they grow
Sign that springtime has come,
It's a sign of God's love for you;
Sign that springtime has come,
It's a sign of God's love for you.

2
Look at those birds up in the sky
Singing sweet melodies;
They are singing for you and me.
Singing sweet melodies,
Just like daddy and mommy.

(Interlude)

3
Look at the sun
Feel all its warmth;
God is reaching for you,
God's touching you.
God is reaching for you,
God's touching you.

4
Look at the rain falls on dry land,
God is nourishing you,
God cares about you;
God is nourishing you,
God cares about you.

(Interlude)

5
Now look at yourselves,
See when you smile (Yes, when I smile)
God is smiling in you;
God's joy in your heart.
When God's joy in your heart,
God is smiling in you.


Copyright © 1993 Fro’s Music


I love it. I know this guy's voice.

:D
#38714
Ironic. My biochem professor has a facebook account.

:o
#38715
Hi Ate Belle!
#38716
Bible Study / Re: Majesty
April 30, 2009, 07:30:07 AM
Where did you get these songs from, Bem?

Beautiful
#38717
Bible Study / Re: Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 30, 2009, 07:15:12 AM
Hahaha 2 years ra diay ta difference. What made me attend was because a couple of friends were going, and I overheard them. Ning ask sila nako if i wanted to come. I had nothing to do--so i agreed.

It was really the Will of His Spirit that I attended.

There were kids that went in my group, and as soon as this song started to play, they were speaking in tongues, and just praising the Holy Spirit.

At first na kurat ko, then one took my hand and showed me how to praise and sing. I started to dance with them and sing out loud. I felt the Holy Spirit touch me.

I cried because of the expereince. Powerful kaayo.
#38718
Bible Study / Re: Tell The World Of His Love
April 30, 2009, 07:10:56 AM
I'm singing this song right now, bem, :D
I really like this song~ Let us tell the world of His Love the greatest love the world has known search the world for those who have walked astray and lead themhome~~

I' saved this in my favorites

#38719
Bible Study / Re: Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 30, 2009, 07:03:39 AM
This is the song we Sang.

I love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyqn2LxKVk&feature=related

Blessed Be Your Name~~
#38720
Bible Study / Re: Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 30, 2009, 07:02:36 AM
God Bless You, Bembem! Buutan dalaga.
Ever gone to a big youth prayer event? First time nako was in '06 winter.
Na hadlok ko at first kai different style ang worship, pero when the music started, everyone and i mean everyone started to sing.

I felt the Holy Spirit. My anxiousness disappeared~ and i sang like a bird with everyone. Beautiful experience.

;D

#38721
Bible Study / Re: Minute Meditations
April 30, 2009, 06:54:41 AM
Responsibility of Action


Take responsibility for one's actions and see things impartially. Observe the wrongs of others and forgive as Christ would forgive. But at the same time, hold them accountable for their actions. As righteousness requires justice and prompt impartiality.

Do not be like the pharisees, that talk but do not do.

#38722
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 30, 2009, 06:52:11 AM
Ellen, yes I agree with your beautiful message. The Lord, indeed, fills us with His grace when we take the time to talk to Him and open our hearts to His presence.

Even if it means sitting in a room and closing the door. And pray and hear with our hearts and speak through our thoughts.

May the Peace of our Lord, Christ Jesus be with you~

:D

Thanks for that beautiful and uplifting message.
#38723
Bible Study / Re: Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 30, 2009, 06:47:45 AM
Quote from: kiamoy on April 29, 2009, 11:02:46 PM
I sooo love this song

;D Bem, have you been to a Catholic Youth Conference? They had this song playing last time I attended one. O man, twas such a great experience. The song and the message.
#38724
haha :D
#38725
Health and Food / Re: All About the Swine Flu Virus
April 30, 2009, 02:06:23 AM
A/H1N1 virus virulence wanes over time, the reason for the partiality towards the Mexican population is simply medical presentation.

The level of medical care and health system in Mexico, is that of a 3rd world nation, with a population of over 110 Million and a medical work force that is insufficient to handle cases prior to the outbreak of A/H1N1, it is a strategic manifest of the high fatalities after the metastasis of the said virus.

Hygenics and waste disposal is also a problem in Mexico, one that has been a problem for decades now.

Fortunately for us, in medical hindsight, the first wave will be deadly, but as the virus infects hosts, the body's natural immune system develops antibodies and reverse reverse transcripterase capability that can counter further viral replication.

This has been the case regarding the SARS outbreak some 1 decade ago.

#38726
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 30, 2009, 01:46:47 AM
This is another beautiful rendition of the song,

In Christ Alone


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8welVgKX8Qo

Guapo kaayo
#38727
Bible Study / Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
April 29, 2009, 09:32:22 PM
That was a beautiful verse in scripture, Ellen. Verses 6-11 in Acts Chapter 1.

It states, and I reiterate for those who cannot understand or have difficulty understanding the Cebuano wordings.

"6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” 9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”
-Acts 1: 6-11


Quote from: Way Nada on April 29, 2009, 01:16:21 PM
Pangutana:

Ngano mang gipangutana diha sa Buhat 1:6-11 nga kung maibalik ba ang gingharian ngadto sa Israel. Unya mismo ang mga Kristohanong nasud ila mang gipanghimaraut ang mga Hudeo bisan ngadto sa kinatumyan sa mga yuta?

Salamat

WN


The reason why the witnesses went back to Jerusalem was because they were called by Peter and the other apostles, all of them including: Peter, Johyn, James, Andrew, Philip, Thomas, Bartholomew, Mathew, James, Simon and Judas son of James devoted themselves to prayer. They were there to choose the successor of Judas. And by the Grace of Holy Spirit, Mathias was counted as one of the 11 apostles.

The Lord told them to proclaim the message of Christ through all the 4 corners of the earth, in this particular verse.

And we see a continuing and manifestation of His Will when we read Acts Chapter 2, because we see the coming of the Holy Spirit, which came down on all the Apostles at the days of Pentecost.
It was in this time that all the Apostles were given the gift of Wisdom of the Tongue. They were, by the Power of the Most High, able to speak in different tongues, either it be Cretan, Greek, Arab, Parthian, Medes, Elamites etc, they were professing the Good News.

And if we read the continuation, we observe that all the Apostles were called out to different regions of the world to proclaim the good news. Many of them converted many gentiles, many died in their works, but nontheless, they fulfilled the Will of the Most High. They spread the faith thorugh the 4 corners of the world.

Blessed Paul, being the first Apostle to arrive in Rome, started the wildfire of men's hearts--which was Christ's Love. In 3 centuries, Rome would become Christian. And from that, all of Europa followed suit.

#38728
I describe the different types of Vitamins. Including their functions, pathways and deficiency related conditions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXL97R0UVKw

Enjoy!
#38729
Quote from: bolingitboy on December 09, 2008, 04:17:59 AM
in valencia, "an" is used in the same way when we say "no" at the end of a sentence when soliciting response (whether affirmation or negation) from the person we are talking to.

for example:

in standard bisaya: Lami kaayo ang lechon, no?
in valencia             : Lami jamo ang lechon, an?




hahahaha tinuud jud ni.

The 'Jamo' can also be interchanged for 'zamo'

:P

hahaha~
#38731
LGU Philippines / Social Consciousness and Morality
April 29, 2009, 12:18:07 PM
Social Consciousness As The Basis For Objective Morality


An issue I have come across in various discussion on morality is whether or not morality can be considered objective or subjective. The purpose of this thread is to try and explore the various definitions of things like objectivity, subjectivity, and morality and then create a theoretical model on which to build an argument whereby morality can be considered to be objective. One of the biggest problems I have with my own argument is whether or not what I talk about in the second half of this essay can be considered to encompass morality as a whole, or if it should instead be considered something related but different in the matter of its objectivity. I haven't yet decided on the matter, so I will default by saying that it must be considered as at least part of morality.

So let's begin with the various definitions that will apply to my argument:

Quotesub•jec•tive [suhb-jek-tiv] â€"adjective
1. existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought
2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual: a subjective evaluation.
3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.

Basically, for a concept to be subjective the source of the evaluation and all information used must come from the mind of the person who is viewing the object (object in the instance of ideas can include concepts). Take the example of the concept of beauty: when one is examining the object in question in order to say whether it is beautiful or not, they are picking out physical appearances or traits that they have already assigned as 'beautiful'. They may find a certain colour, or shape, or texture, or whatever as visually appealing but the attachment of 'appealing' to these traits is not inherent to the object itself, but rather is an evaluation that comes from the subject.

Now on to objective:
Quoteob•jec•tive [uhb-jek-tiv] â€"adjective
1. not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.
2. intent upon or dealing with things external to the mind rather than with thoughts or feelings, as a person or a book.
3. being the object of perception or thought; belonging to the object of thought rather than to the thinking subject (opposed to subjective).
4. of or pertaining to something that can be known, or to something that is an object or a part of an object; existing independent of thought or an observer as part of reality.


Obviously if subjective means that the thing in question comes from the mind of the subject and not the object, than objective would mean the opposite. For something to be objective, it must pertain solely to facts and information inherent to the object and nothing more. One can look at 'objects' factually by merely identifying what the height, weight, or colour of the object is. What becomes subjective is when the person goes beyond identification, and starts attaching evaluations to these traits which, as I already said and by now must be sounding like a broken record, comes from the mind of the subject and not from the object.

So where does morality fit into this mix?
A major issue is that morality is one of those incredibly ambiguous terms that has been used so often and so differently that defining what it is in relevance to subjectiveness or objectiveness is no mean feat, and I admit that I could easily fail to do an adequate job of it.


Quotemo•ral•i•ty [muh-ral-i-tee, maw-] â€"noun, plural -ties for 4â€"6.
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2. moral quality or character.
3. virtue in sexual matters; chastity.
4. a doctrine or system of morals.
5. moral instruction; a moral lesson, precept, discourse, or utterance


So to moral means virtue, and virtue means moral according to my source. There needs to be, I think, either a separation of these two words in their meanings or a creation of a new word to fit a concept that I believe to be fundamentally different than how these words are defined.

The main issue is that the meanings of these words makes them obviously subjective, because the assigning of certain behaviors with the stigma of 'virtuous' or 'moral' in this context comes from, you guessed it, the subject and not the object - that being the behaviour in question. So how does

But if that is what it means to be moral, then what of the three age old enemies of human beings murder, rape, and theft? These three concepts have been universally condemned by human kind throughout known human history and most likely as far as human kind and these behaviors have existed. But what does the definitions of subjective and objective have to say about these? Well, by definition these concepts/actions carry with it an immediate negative, so it could be argued that 'immorality' is inherent to the objects in question, those being murder, rape, and theft. However, the issue arises that the people who defined these concepts is the subject, and so it could be argued that these concepts are still subjectively evaluated. Another catch is that, throughout this history, interpretations of what constitutes murder, rape, and theft have greatly varied. However, this does not change the undeniable fact that, where murder, rape, or theft has been identified the attachment of the 'immoral', 'bad', and 'evil' has been right there. At the same time, as I will argue later on, this can be explained by the evolution of human society.

Even the people who commit these crimes know that such actions are bad, but they do them anyways because they wanted to, because they chose to. Free will necessitates that people will choose and act how they want to even if they think the choice/action is bad, immoral, or whatever. I mean, there has never been a case of a person justifying their act of rape, murder, or theft by saying: "its not a bad thing, I was doing a good thing by committing rape/murder/theft". What they will do is try and say that what they did was not rape, murder, or theft. The sole exception to this is, of course, sociopaths. These people have a mental disorder that renders them unable to feel any moral responsibility, conscience, or whatever. But it is a most curious thing, that the term used to describe these people contains the prefix of socio. This brings me to what I see as the clinching factor in this debate: that of human social consciousness.

Human beings are not the only species to have a form of social organization, and though it could be argued whether other animals have the mental capacity to understand the concepts of right and wrong I would be willing to wager quite a sum of money that those animals which might in fact understand it are animals who also have a form of social organization. So what is the fundamental foundation for morality? To me, the answer is social consciousness. What is the purpose of human beings and other animals forming such societies? Above all else it is survival. Working together in mutual help and protection increases the chances of survival as opposed to working solely on one's own. I would go so far as to argue that being able to comprehend the advantage of forming a society is the mental basis for being able to grasp the idea of a moral responsibility.

So the concepts of 'right' and 'wrong', 'good' and 'bad', and 'moral' and 'immoral' all arise from the issue of creating rules within a society to prevent some people from harming the basis of society itself - that being the mutual protection of every person within the society. Crimes against the society are seen as worse as crimes against individuals. Murder, rape, and theft... these three crimes are seen as the worst sorts of crime within a society, and are only seen as crimes within a society. The reason is that when you murder, rape, or steal from someone within the society you are perpetrating a serious attack against the welfare of the society. In the laws of nature theft is commonplace, and people who gathered into a society because they wanted to be able to protect their possessions and the fruits of their labors. So to allow theft is to immediately render the idea of a society instantly useless. Similarly, indiscriminate killing is also something that is part of the laws of nature, and just like theft people who want to be part of a society want to be able to protect themselves better from being killed. So as they are formed into these social groups, killing a member of the society becomes arguably the most serious crime within the fundamental laws of a society because like theft it undermines the basis of a society, that being mutual protection. Rape and other forms of assault are seen as lesser but still serious crimes within a society, because it disrupts the peace and harmony of those living in the social group and would again undermine the ideal of mutual protection.

So if morality is an issue inherent in society, and is an issue of social consciousness or social survival, than try and look at things like murder, rape, and theft objectively within the relevance of a society: Are murder, rape and theft inherently bad to a human society? Yes they are. That is a fact inherent to the object itself and not the subject (though it is universally considered bad by the subject as well). The laws of nature know no virtue, or morality, or right or wrong. These are concepts that are solely connected to the foundational structure of a society.

To summarize: I have examined the definitions of subjective, objective, morality and virtue in an effort to discover if there is such a thing as an objective morality. In doing so, I tried to address the seemingly universally condemned concepts of murder, rape, and theft. This lead me to the issue of sociopaths, and this in turn lead me to the idea that morality - and indeed all ideas of right and wrong - comes from the idea inherent to the foundational structure of society, that of mutual protection. When applying the definitions of objective and subjective to murder, rape, and theft within the conceptual context of a society I discovered that the stigma of 'bad' is something inherent to the object of these concepts rather than the subject. Thus, my conclusion is that there is such a thing as objective morality. Either that, or a new term needs to be created regarding the objective right/wrong of these concepts.


Just my view.

Yours?
#38732
LGU Philippines / Re: On Plato's Republic
April 29, 2009, 12:12:09 PM
A fellow of mine, a political science grad student, is enthusiastic that a philosopher king is idealistc, in a utopia-esque society as it abides in classic postulates of guardianship through enlightened experience and schooling.

Now, I, being the realist, cannot help but question and ponder the 'what if' scenarios.

In essence, the question that has plagued philosophers since Plato's day: Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? or to translate to modern language "Who guards the guardians?"

#38733
LGU Philippines / On Plato's Republic
April 29, 2009, 12:06:56 PM
In a discussion I had with fellows, we debated on the basis of Plato's Philosopher Kings as being the ideal (or not) basis of a ruler in a Republic.

Some enthusiasts relegated the idea that a philosopher won't abuse his power.

I recall that Socrates talks about educating and training the prospective kings. If his character is properly developed he will be able to use the power wisely. I don't think that Socrates provided any checks and balances.

He arrived at the idea of the philosopher king after considering other types of government, and describing how one type leads to another. He finally arrived at the idea of the philosopher king after recognizing the weaknesses of the other types. I'm not sure that he really believed that it would work, but he concluded that it was the best in theory. The problem I see would be in getting a philosopher to agree to become king.

What are your views on Socrates' Republic ?
#38734
We want to hear your take on this.

Is Mathematics Invented or is it Discovered?
#38735
Poems and Poets / Elegance In Simplicity
April 29, 2009, 11:50:30 AM
There was once a simple animal, which all the other animals ridiculed.
"You crawl, You cannot walk like us"
In humility, this little animal grobbled from leaf to leaf, from tree to tree
The ants proselytized, "You cannot move flexibly like us, fast art we, thou art not."
The grasshoppers remunerated, "We have wings a many, power and dexterity, thou dost not."

And the humble animal, worried not their words, paid no attention to their mockery.
Justified in work and the goal, the humble animal discovered a perfect resting place.
And so the animal fell sleep. A deep sleep.

Many moons passed, many rains followed suit.

Then the animal awoke from his slumber, amazed, surprised.
He now had wings. Wings of color, and speed like a bird.
The animal, who was once a mere caterpillar became a butterfly.

Beauty in Simplicity
Elegance in Simplicity

#38736
Bible Study / Re: Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 29, 2009, 11:38:07 AM
Its so beautiful to sing in praise.
Kining song I found to be so beautiful.


Baptist Gospel Song, guapo kaayo ang song~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVYZcCAwH5Q&feature=related
#38737
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
April 29, 2009, 11:29:44 AM
Gospel Reading of the day (4-28-09)

The crowd said to Jesus:
"What sign can you do, that we may see and believe in you?
What can you do?
Our ancestors ate manna in the desert, as it is written:

He gave them bread from heaven to eat."


So Jesus said to them,
"Amen, amen, I say to you,
it was not Moses who gave the bread from heaven;
my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.
For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven
and gives life to the world."

So they said to Jesus,
"Sir, give us this bread always."
Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life;
whoever comes to me will never hunger,
and whoever believes in me will never thirst."

-John 6: 30-35


#38738
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
April 29, 2009, 11:26:49 AM
First Reading of the Day (4-28-08)

Stephen said to the people, the elders, and the scribes:
"You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears,
you always oppose the Holy Spirit;
you are just like your ancestors.
Which of the prophets did your ancestors not persecute?
They put to death those who foretold the coming of the righteous one,
whose betrayers and murderers you have now become.
You received the law as transmitted by angels,
but you did not observe it."

When they heard this, they were infuriated,
and they ground their teeth at him.
But Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit,
looked up intently to heaven and saw the glory of God
and Jesus standing at the right hand of God,
and Stephen said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened
and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."
But they cried out in a loud voice,
covered their ears, and rushed upon him together.
They threw him out of the city, and began to stone him.
The witnesses laid down their cloaks
at the feet of a young man named Saul.
As they were stoning Stephen, he called out,
"Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."
Then he fell to his knees and cried out in a loud voice,
"Lord, do not hold this sin against them";
and when he said this, he fell asleep.

Now Saul was consenting to his execution.

-Acts 7:51 - 8:1a
#38739
Bible Study / Re: Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 29, 2009, 11:22:44 AM

Lord, I lift Your name on high
Lord, I love to sing Your praises
I'm so glad You're in my life
I'm so glad You came to save us

You came from heaven to earth
To show the way
From the earth to the cross
My debt to pay
From the cross to the grave
From the grave to the sky
Lord, I lift Your name on high

Lord, I lift Your name on high
#38740
Bible Study / Lord I Lift Your Name On High
April 29, 2009, 11:20:29 AM
#38741
Mr. Daray, how many stores and stalls are inside Agora?
#38742
Youtube Replay / Europa Barbarorum: Legion Strong
April 29, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
A video compiled and made by a fellow history and classics enthusiast. :)

Roma Invicta!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiuWcv-Rp5M&feature=channel_page
#38743
Quote from: grazie7y on April 28, 2009, 02:48:16 AM
Dong, didn't see the lemon! lol

hahaha, 'te uy! :P


Taken right now~


Vin De Pays D'Oc
(Cabernet Sauvignon, aged 2 years)




very nice. :)
#38744
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
April 29, 2009, 08:52:57 AM
Right now i have people over my apartment. I cooked some adobo for the 3 of us (Me, Scott and Ritesh).

With the Red wine ready~
#38745
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
April 29, 2009, 08:52:12 AM
Quote from: grazie7y on April 29, 2009, 07:04:42 AM
my house is filled with the aroma of banana honey bread baking right now. 

ate ging! you need to teach me how to cook banana honey bread. How do you cook it?
#38746
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 29, 2009, 08:27:04 AM
Quote from: glacier_71 on April 29, 2009, 08:10:51 AM
beautiful

are familiar with the group Jars of Clay, enz?

Brod Glacier,
I just saw the video you posted.

My heart was filled with grace in hearing its words and prayer in song!

I love it, Bro
#38747
Bible Study / Re: Oh, My God
April 29, 2009, 08:25:46 AM
Beautiful video, Glacier!

The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way. Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
Psalm 37:23-24


:D

#38748
Photos Unlimited / Re: The Colour Of Autumn (Color)
April 29, 2009, 08:01:30 AM
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on April 27, 2009, 05:29:43 PM














Wow! Tita Sol, these pictures look like they were taken in the mountains of Allegheny in Western Pennsylvania.

I'm loving the color of the trees. It captures the Fall Season.

Wonderful pictures!
#38749
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 29, 2009, 07:58:45 AM
oo, Ate Ging, thats good song too have on too. Sige, ha, have a good and blessed day.

Ayo Ayo
#38750
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 29, 2009, 07:55:41 AM
Of course, Ate Ging.

The bugs don't bother me, because I am sustained by my Lord.

Sige ha, lets just keep on singing His Praise.

:)
#38751
Martin has a really regal voice, he's almost in between soprano and tenor which gives him that 'umpft' haha.

I cant wait to see the fight in 5/03/09

Go Manny! Da Pacman!
#38752
Quote from: hofelina on April 29, 2009, 07:41:08 AM
I feel uneasy with you because Ayessa left this Forum very unhappy.

Ayessa violated forum rules, and harassed many people.

#38753
Quote from: BedoAdoSalada on April 29, 2009, 07:03:38 AM
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas !!!

Bitaw, kini ato mga opinion ra man ni.  Almost Filipino singers who performed the anthem for Pacman's previous fights gathered criticisms here and there.  There was only one who in my opinion did it well - Ms. Lanie Mesalucha.     In fairness to Martin, he's doing good.  Well see this coming sunday.   :)

Cheers to you M'am Tess and Bay Bran.

Bedo

I concur, Mr. Bedo, Lanie performed really well! Powerful kaayo to.

I was in college when I saw that fight, and I remember I had the volume up high. My room mates asked, "What is she singing."

Proudly I reiterated, "Philippine Anthem." :)

The Philippine National Anthem is very powerful kaayo~ The lyrics are so beautifully written. Regal.
#38754
Manay Tess, you have the right to share your opinion.

I just so happen to think that Martin performed well.
Guapo kaayo iyang voice. :)

#38755
The new Agora Market looks 'interesting'. If they painted the outside with light colors, it would make it easier for the eye, imho.

At least the market is finished. Businesses are growing, most important.
They can always add on finishing touches later on. So far, am satisfied that its finished.
#38756
Quote from: BedoAdoSalada on April 28, 2009, 02:42:29 PM
The new agora market.   
(Dugay ba mangabre neng Macdonalds.  Kaadto-on na ko sa chocolate hills.).  :-*


Loboc River.
Future olympians in diving competition.   ;)


More to come. 

The roads in Tagbilaran look really well paved. Gi modernized na jud diay ang road systems no?

Infrastructure looks so much better compared to what I remembered in 1998.

Shine, Bohol, Shine.
#38757
her face is so soft. Her lips declare, "Kiss Me"

:)
#38758
Quote from: BedoAdoSalada on April 28, 2009, 03:26:47 PM


Bitaw, kini nga picture dili akoy nagkuha ani.  Kaila mo ani niya?  Akong amigo na official photographer nga gi hire sa ani nga photo shoot sa chocolate hills 3 yrs. ago.


Later,

I don't know who she is, Mr. Bedo, but she is very gorgeous. Wow na wow. :)


#38759
Jokes and Humor / Re: Good Daddy
April 29, 2009, 07:26:34 AM
hahaha, the love of a daddy sa anak. :)

#38760
Sports and Fitness / Re: Bohol Badminton Enthusiast
April 29, 2009, 07:25:05 AM
Bembem (Kiamoy)is good in this, I think.

Where is Bembem?

#38761
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 29, 2009, 07:18:41 AM
:)

Love you, Ate Ging. ~~
#38762
Bible Study / Re: In Christ Alone
April 29, 2009, 07:11:14 AM
In Christ alone my hope is found,
He is my light, my strength, my song;
this Cornerstone, this solid Ground,
firm through the fiercest drought and storm.
What heights of love, what depths of peace,
when fears are stilled, when strivings cease!
My Comforter, my All in All,
here in the love of Christ I stand.

In Christ alone! who took on flesh
Fulness of God in helpless babe!
This gift of love and righteousness
Scorned by the ones he came to save:
Till on that cross as Jesus died,
The wrath of God was satisfied -
For every sin on Him was laid;
Here in the death of Christ I live.

There in the ground His body lay
Light of the world by darkness slain:
Then bursting forth in glorious Day
Up from the grave he rose again!
And as He stands in victory
Sin's curse has lost its grip on me,
For I am His and He is mine -
Bought with the precious blood of Christ.

No guilt in life, no fear in death,
This is the power of Christ in me;
From life's first cry to final breath.
Jesus commands my destiny.
No power of hell, no scheme of man,
Can ever pluck me from His hand;
Till He returns or calls me home,
Here in the power of Christ I'll stand.
#38763
Bible Study / In Christ Alone
April 29, 2009, 07:09:24 AM
#38764
Bible Study / Re: God Of Wonders
April 29, 2009, 07:04:53 AM
Glory be to God In The Highest, my beloved Ate Ging~

Christ Our Lord our sustainer,
Our only hope.

#38765
Bible Study / Re: God Of Wonders
April 29, 2009, 06:59:48 AM
Lord of all creation
of water earth and sky
The heavens are your Tabernacle
Glory to the Lord on high

Chorus:
God of wonders beyond our galaxy
You are Holy, Holy
The universe declares your Majesty
And you are holy holy

Lord of Heaven and Earth
Lord of Heaven and Earth

Early in the morning
I will celebrate the light
When i stumble in the darkness
I will call your name by night

chorus
lord of heaven and earth
lord of heaven and earth

Hallelujah to the lord of heaven and earth (repeate 3 times)

Holy Holy Holy God~

chorus

Precious lord reveal your love to me
Father holy..
(backround)    Lord god almighty

The "universe" declares your majesty
"you are" holy,holy,holy,holy
Halleujah to the lord of heaven and earth 9x
#38766
Bible Study / God Of Wonders
April 29, 2009, 06:58:16 AM
#38767
The hairs of my back stood in hearing him sing this song.

Powerful! Mabuhay ng Pilipinas!
#38768
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: What Did You Do Today?
April 29, 2009, 06:45:14 AM
A group of us went to the beach today. Scot, Ritesh, Vince, Eric and I.
Basking in the sun, getting our Vitamin D daily input ;)

Came back around 4 PM. On the way back I bought a French Cabernet Sauvignon. Aged 2 years.
Enjoying it.
#38769
Music and Video / Down
April 29, 2009, 06:33:00 AM
by Blink 182

[mp3tube]9bf38a863218d9fc086d444ef521919b[/mp3tube]
#38770
Bible Study / Re: Here I Am To Worship
April 28, 2009, 04:58:34 PM
Light of the world
You stepped down into darkness.
Opened my eyes, let me see.
Beauty that made this heart adore You
Hope of a life spent with You

Here I am to worship,
Here I am to bow down,
Here I am to say that You're my God
You're altogether lovely
Altogether worthy,
Altogether wonderful to me

King of all days
oh, so highly exalted
Glorious in heaven above
Humbly You came
To the earth You created
All for love's sake became poor

Here I am to worship,
Here I am to bow down,
Here I am to say that You're my God
You're altogether lovely
Altogether worthy,
Altogether wonderful to me

I'll never know how much it cost
To see my sin upon that cross
I'll never know how much it cost
To see my sin upon that cross
I'll never know how much it cost
To see my sin upon that cross
I'll never know how much it cost




Here I am to worship,
Here I am to bow down,
Here I am to say that You're my God
You're altogether lovely
Altogether worthy,
Altogether wonderful to me


Here I am to worship,
Here I am to bow down,
Here I am to say that You're my God
You're altogether lovely
Altogether worthy,
Altogether wonderful to me

I'll never know how much it cost
to see my sins upon that cross
#38771
Bible Study / Here I Am To Worship
April 28, 2009, 04:57:42 PM

"Salvation is found in no one else but Christ Jesus, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
Acts 4:12


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC-yHnqttAU
#38772
Bible Study / Re: Daily Scriptural Verse
April 28, 2009, 04:55:53 PM
Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed.
-1 Peter 4:12-13
#38773
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Mga Sulat na Sumbunganan
April 28, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
Quote from: Vito Andoline on April 28, 2009, 03:48:35 PM
daghan ko ug nakat-onan atong gipang post ni lorenzo.
additional knowledge to para sa akoa  kay karon pa ko kabalo na b***t diay si mohammad

Amen, bro.

This is why Christianity is the only way.
Ingoon gud si Jesu Cristo, "I AM the Truth, The Way and the Life."

Tinuud.
#38774
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Mga Sulat na Sumbunganan
April 28, 2009, 03:50:43 PM
He asked a question if Christ's divinity was supported in the Holy Bible, the beautiful remarks by Kiris, Buwad, Fdaray, Raquel, Vito and many others who defended their faith has proven to that poster that indeed there are many biblical references that supports and absolutely reaffirms Christ's Divine Sonship as well as the Trinity/ Trinitarian Godhead of the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit.

When I refuted his arguments, he ignores our refutes, our honest answers.

And when I make a reference on Muhammad and the heaven he promises, he clearly evades that topic, and clearly he evades the notion of Aisha (the 9 year old girl who Muhammad marries and consumates).

It is evident this individual picks and chooses. He does not even understand fully the Quran. His arguments have been destroyed time and time again.

Scripture, truly, is beautiful because it corrects, and reaffirms the faith. And destroys the lies and falsehoods of accusers of our Christian Faith.


That, I say with all my heart.


A Brother In Christ,
Lorenzo
#38775
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Mga Sulat na Sumbunganan
April 28, 2009, 03:43:56 PM
Read all the posts of Jmessenger, it is interesting because he picks and chooses his citations. And which are full of error.

He does not even have full bearing in his own quran, let alone he has the audacity to accuse the teachings of the Holy Bible.

In all honesty, his arguments are weak.

To God be the Glory~
#38776
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Mga Sulat na Sumbunganan
April 28, 2009, 02:30:07 PM
Sometimes when I read scripture's message in Old Testament about the Plagues on Egypt and the smoting of Sodom and Gomorrah, I once thought that the Lord God was too strict.

Now that I realize it, The Lord was righteous in HIS judgment.

Because the pride and arrogance of Egypt and Babylon was so high, that they would not listen to His people's cries in bondage.

The LORD GOD stretched forth his hand. And in HIS Power, Smote all of Egypt and Babylon with all of HIS Wonders.

#38777
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Mga Sulat na Sumbunganan
April 28, 2009, 02:24:04 PM
Vito,

The thread has been reopened.

In the spirit of democracy and freedom of speech, it has been reopened.
#38778
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ari Ta Mga Varsitarian!
April 28, 2009, 08:21:58 AM
haha nice nice. who won?
#38779
Fashion Trend / Re: Let the Lemon Do The Miracle
April 28, 2009, 07:05:12 AM
mmm, yum. aleth, i bought more lemons today. just for you.
#38780
Question and Answer / Re: Unsay Imong Gikaon Karon?
April 28, 2009, 07:04:09 AM
Quote from: kiris on April 28, 2009, 02:27:35 AM
hihihi i thought you're gonna ask me more.

btaw, i'm good. how 'bout you?

have you been eating?

good that youre good. haha. okey ra pood ko diri. oo had a turkey sandwch ganina.

kaw?
#38781
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ari Ta Mga Varsitarian!
April 28, 2009, 07:01:14 AM
Football Season spring 2004.

I gained like 25 lbs just on muscle mass because of football.

#38782
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ari Ta Mga Varsitarian!
April 28, 2009, 06:59:28 AM
I actually want to go back to the size I was back in senior year of high school, back to when i would run 2-3 miles a day and do gym work out.

Ideal size to para nako. 175lbs at 5'10.

But yes, this was me when I was in wrestling and football:
#38783
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ari Ta Mga Varsitarian!
April 28, 2009, 06:49:48 AM
yup yup, school competitions. I was in the 185 lb weight class for wrestling, went against lots of really hard guys.

most fun time was when I had to wrestle a girl, no joke. yea~ it was an interesting experience.

what sports did you play bem?
#38784
Mo post ko sa ahoa pero, only after you gals. ;)
#38785
whats up with these excuses? hahaha!

:P
#38786
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ari Ta Mga Varsitarian!
April 28, 2009, 04:16:27 AM
ha,

High school: Football, Outdoors track and field-- Javelin thrower.
and one year of wrestling.

Loved football cuz i loved tackling people, javelin was fun--loved competing with other fellow spear throwers lol ;)

Wrestling wasn't too fun. Full on contact. Many bloody noses because of wrestling. Testosterone high tho. lol.
#38787
Question and Answer / Re: Unsay Imong Gikaon Karon?
April 28, 2009, 02:24:40 AM
yummy. musta na ka kiris?

#38788
Fashion Trend / Re: Let the Lemon Do The Miracle
April 28, 2009, 02:23:00 AM
hahahahahhha! ehem ehem ehm!

LOL!

lamian diay ka sa mas aslum? dude, you'r like super cool. Frealz.

hahahaha!
#38789
hahaha! Bohol is really blossoming. I am so happy to hear positive news and see beautiful pictures of our Boholand.

Bisan wa na ko ka balik since '98, naka feel pood ko naa ko didto sa imung pictures, Mr. Bedo.

Salamat kaayo for sharing intawn with us.

My heart felt thanks,
Bran
#38790
Question and Answer / Re: Unsay Imong Gikaon Karon?
April 28, 2009, 02:17:38 AM
salted or nonsalted?
#38791
Fashion Trend / Re: Let the Lemon Do The Miracle
April 28, 2009, 02:16:24 AM
hahahaha, you know i can answer that question in a 'green' manner. pero ehem. ayaw na lang ko simbako hahaha! masuko ang Ginoo.

Hmm, lemons?
ah, naa sa fridge, intawn. Bisan walay kan-onon sa fridge, naa ko package of lemons. mura 5-6 ba to gi palit nako gahapon.

hahaha!

gusto ka mo suway? dili man aslum kaayo. lami i paris sa salt.
#38792
Quote from: BedoAdoSalada on April 28, 2009, 12:28:53 AM
Chocolate hills. 




Sus ka gwapo ang view!
#38793
How was the Chocolate Hills, Mr. Bedo?

The pictures look wonderful, baya. So green.

When my younger brothers were younger, they thought the Chocolate Hills were made out of Chocolate. mahaha! makalingawlingaw bya.

Bohol looks so beautiful~
#38794
Mr. Bedo, thanks diay, I thought you were a military commander.

Very noble imung memberships, sir!

PS. Bran ra, please.
#38795
Quote from: BedoAdoSalada on April 28, 2009, 02:05:04 AM
In Baclayon Bohol, your tourist guide will usually say "Ka kita ka ug dagway sa pare sir?  Nitunga ra na ug kalit diha, naporma."


GTG,



It looks like, omg, Fr. Pio!

Wow~
#38796
Question and Answer / Re: Unsay Imong Gikaon Karon?
April 28, 2009, 02:05:18 AM
Gruel.

hahaha :P

#38797
Ate Ging and Ma'am Raquel,

It would be great to see you guys in prom attire. The beauties of Bohol gud mo. Mga Guapang Boholana!

#38798
Quote from: kiamoy on April 28, 2009, 12:31:56 AM
ang uban?

ah, ikaw pa first. Dali na ba, ning huwat sad mi mo tan-aw.

#38799
Mr. Bedo, are you in the military, sir?
#38800
This is good that the Philippines is taking the charge and taking preventative measures. And the medical personal at ready, this is really very commendable for the Republic of the Philippines.

An industrializing and modernizing nation taking the charge.

Bravo Pilipinas!