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#33501
Quote from: islander on May 22, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
Sotto was riled by photo grabs released by Erick Bairnals Shcks to the press showing him and the 19-year-old woman kissing in the elevator on their way up to his condominium unit in Makati City, where the alleged rape took place on the night of April 23.

riled, probably because he swallowed the girl's story hook, line and sinker.  there seems to be no apologies though for his waste of government resources for his televised investigation.
#33502
some comments on the news item re sotto:

Mukhang Nakuryente ka, Sen. Sotto. Eat Bulaga! Donde esta la Paloma? Your palomito es muy pequeno. Vic Sotto for Senator?  Stick to being a payaso. (ynigooctaviano)

Kissing on the elevator on the way to the guy's room? What's gonna happen next?. I initially sided with the girl, but after this info, I think I change my mind. Peace..
(lliam_S)

Why is it a monkey looking picture is posted in here instead of the topic of kissing photo? (JJF724, Filipino/Australian)
#33503
Photos of kissing between Filipina, Panamanian don’t disprove rape, says Sotto

By TJ Burgonio
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Saturday, May 19th, 2012



Senate Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III. INQUIRER file photo

MANILA, Philippines â€" Senate Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III on Saturday bristled at photos showing a Panamanian kissing a Filipino woman in the elevator before his alleged rape of her took place.

“The message is that once you allow yourself to be kissed on the first date that means you can be raped. Well, they’re wrong. If at the point of insertion, the woman says `no’ and you still do it, that’s rape. That’s the law,” Sotto said in a telephone interview, citing the law against rape.

Sotto was riled by photo grabs released by Erick Bairnals Shcks to the press showing him and the 19-year-old woman kissing in the elevator on their way up to his condominium unit in Makati City, where the alleged rape took place on the night of April 23.

“If that came from the Panamanian, the Department of Justice should all the more be outraged,” he said.

In an e-mailed statement to media, Shcks claimed he did not coerce the victim to go with him or spend the night with him “to have sex.” He said they dined and went to a bar at her invitation, and he later invited her to his apartment, which she accepted.

The victim filed a complaint with the police who arrested Shcks the next day. Prosecutors filed an information of rape against him with the Makati regional trial court, but this was withdrawn after the Department of Foreign Affairs certified he had immunity from criminal prosecution.

In last Thursday’s hearing by the Senate foreign relations committee, Senators Loren Legarda and Sotto upbraided Justice Secretary Leila de Lima and Foreign Undersecretary Rafael Seguis for quickly declaring the immunity of Shcks in disregard of the victim’s rights.

In a statement issued later in the day, Sotto said he found it incredible that Shcks would claim innocence and yet flew out of the country on May 11.

“If no rape transpired, why did the accused leave the country immediately?  Why did he get the Filipina drunk and smoke marijuana before the criminal act was committed?  Does it mean that when Filipinas kiss, they are soliciting to be raped? Why did not the diplomat escort the Filipina to get a cab after the incident if all was well?’’ he said.

The senator said the footage showing Shcks and the woman kissing was not proof that no rape happened. He said he had information that “she was assured that people were coming over to the room so there was nothing to worry about.”

“It is unfortunate that the whole system, the government, our own Departments of Foreign Affairs and Justice, and their offices, have joined the chorus against the victim rather than hear her story first,” he said.

“Colonial mentality is still with us.  We believe a foreigner more than we believe a Filipina who made a sworn statement that she was raped and went through the hassle of filing a case in court,” he added.

The senator wondered: “Would Panama have the same reaction if a Filipino was accused of rape in Panama?”
#33504
the downside of the whole thing was despite the cover she donned (a black cloth over her head and face) during the senate hearing (what for was she there?  to add more drama to the show of sotto and legarda?) to protect her identity, her name instead is now all over.  mariah thea gonzalez of st. scholastica's college.  a youtube comment even posted her mobile phone number.  one also claimed that she knew her since high school and that she had always been lascivious (malandi).

moral lesson: investigate a story first to have a reason for believing it.
#33505
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjnEqbpMuYs#
Published on May 17, 2012 by ErickShcks PR
Lie #4: She cried RAPE to the authorities which rendered Erick Shcks arrested and accused unfairly. This video shows Mariah Thea Gonzalez about to leave the apartment calm and even happy for a supposed rape victim. Now decide, DO YOU THINK THIS GIRL HAS ACTUALLY BEEN RAPED that night???
#33506
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfKKr0ysQK0#
Published on May 17, 2012 by ErickShcks PR
Lie # 3 : She told Erick earlier that night that she has no cellphone. This was "supposedly after the rape" which she claimed to have happened minutes before. Notice that she has a cellphone in her hand which she lied about to Erick saying she left her phone in her house.
#33507
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GBYKgYEemA#
Published on May 17, 2012 by ErickShcks PR
Lie # 2: She said in her statement: "..natakot na po ako noong bigla nalang nya ako niyapos na nakaharap sa kanya at malapit at kahit na gusto ko na sanang lumayo ay hinde ko magawa sa sobrang pagyapos nya sa akin.." (translation: "..I was then fearful when he suddenly embraced me facing each other, while I tried to set myself free, I cannot do so given how tightly he held me..") Here's the video of Erick Shcks and Mariah Thea Gonzalez making their way to Erick's apartment unit in the 8th floor. As opposed to what she claimed, Erick did not hold her tight enough that she can't let go. the only time she let go was when the elevator was about to open. She went out ahead of Erick again showing that she was not forced or coerced.
#33508
after that silly show of a senate investigation, with a complete cast of government personnel involved, there seems to be no shame or remorse from the principal actors who ended up being led on by the tall tales of a girl.  too bad, "pamela" didn't figure out ahead that there is such a thing as a cctv.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOOlHSE4LVM#
Published on May 17, 2012 by ErickShcks PR
Lie #1 : She said she was coerced to come to Erick Shcks' apartment. The video will show Erick Shcks entering the building with Mariah Thea Gonzalez (aka PAMELA) in his apartment building showing no signs of coercion by Erick as she claimed in her interviews.
#33509
Quote from: islander on May 12, 2012, 02:02:58 PM
as for that u.s. soldier accused of raping a filipina some years back, if i remember right, the charges were dropped, on the alleged victim's own volition.)

it turned out that the alleged victim was given a u.s. visa, and she kept quiet after that.
#33510
when it's given for all the wrong reasons.

#33511
Health and Food / Re: Top 10 Anti-Aging Food
May 21, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
Quote from: chicogon on May 21, 2012, 07:11:58 AM
8 out of 10 at least...
Quote from: hubag bohol on May 21, 2012, 09:29:23 AM
...and di nimo kan-on? ;D

ang di niya likayan.  di baya lalim ang ahos ug luy-a... ;D
#33512
Health and Food / Re: Top 10 Anti-Aging Food
May 21, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
...bojangjang, catmon, mansanitas, kamachile, etc.
#33513
si hubag ug bugsay ra gyoy makatubag ani.
#33514
and so do i mourn the passing of an age.
#33515
and "it happened" while you were there? ;D
#33516
USA and Canada / Re: What Has America Become?
May 21, 2012, 10:31:13 AM
as all things must end.  :(
#33517
General Topic / Re: Cruel dog
May 19, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
baaaaaddd!  :( >:( :'(
#33518
eh, lahi man ang nahilagpot... moral lesson: kun naay mohatsing, ayaw paluyo, paniguro ug pakilid.
#33519
Weird and Extreme / Re: Lemonion
May 19, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
kinahanglanon ni sa pista sa bohol para sa beefsteak nga kabaw pinarisan sa siok tong nga kulafu ug beer nga tuba. ;D
#33520
kun nangabit, angay ang taoran sa slingshot inodoro aron public hilam-os, hahaha!  di magmantinir ug bangketo kay how tame naman. ;D
#33521
Jokes and Humor / Re: Synchro bottom dance
May 19, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
3 only?  unya nag-body stockings pa gyod?  (s.o.p. nang body stockings kay mamiligro sa kauwaw kun di.)  anha ra ko mobilib aning sayaw kun 100 ka buok nga hottentot venus ang dancers.
#33522
Quotable Quotes / Re: Tunay Na Mayaman
May 19, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
ang tihik nga di mobayad ug bayronon, millionaire.
#33523
Quote from: hubag bohol on May 17, 2012, 05:22:30 PM
Hmm, basin gibuboan una og gasolina sa wa pa dabdabi... :P

why man 'dabdabi' man imo nga 'dubdoban' man sa thread title?
#33524
Technology / Re: Millions Resist Joining Facebook
May 18, 2012, 12:22:44 AM
Quote from: TUBAGBOHOL.com on May 17, 2012, 06:12:43 PM
“I’m absolutely in touch with everyone in my life that I want to be in touch with,” Arwood says. “I don’t need to share triviality with someone that I might have known for six months 12 years ago.”

same here.

#33525
di ba kaha ta ani ikakitag sinumbagay sa airport kontra mga artista? ;D
#33526
naa man tingaliy belly dancing contest for both boys and girls, fr chic. ;D
#33527
Quote from: hubag bohol on May 17, 2012, 04:59:27 PM
"Love me, love my muscles." ;D

soloha. ;D
#33528
Quote from: bugsay on May 17, 2012, 06:54:47 PM
;D

morag nakasabot na kog unsay dagan sa imong utok, bai bugs. ;D
#33529
Tira-Pasagad | Saksak-Sinagol / Re: Hingut-anay
May 17, 2012, 10:27:15 PM
ikaw nang youngest, bai hubs? ;D
#33530
General Topic / The puppy that fell from the sky
May 17, 2012, 03:02:38 PM
Puppy rescued after being dropped into California family’s yard
Taylor, 7, found the puppy in his backyard while playing outside

By Nina Mandell
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, May 16, 2012



                                                                                KSBW ABC
A puppy dropped by a hawk into a backyard is now adopted by the family that found him.


What a gift from above!

A California boy got a new puppy â€" after it fell out of the sky and into his backyard.

The two-month-old puppy, KSBW-TV reported, had been picked up by a hawk and then sent flying for unknown reasons in Salinas, Calif.

It’s been named “T.J. Heavenly,” after the elementary schooler who found him and most likely saved his life.

Seven-year-old Taylor told the TV station he was walking through his backyard when he saw the puppy, which was in bad condition after its fall.

The family believes that T.J. Heavenly somehow freed itself from the hawk and slid out of its talons.

“If you look at him right now, he’s so wiggly,” the dog’s new owner Elaine Bouchard told the TV station. “And his nose; he’s such a little bulldozer, I can see him wiggling right out of the talons.”

The dog was taken to a veterinarian to get all of its wounds patched up and is now a happy part of the family.

“My thought is, when a puppy drops from the sky you keep it,” Bouchard said.


http://www.nydailynews.com/
#33531
hello, faith.  is there hope in those your muscles?
#33532
Philippine Business News / Re: Storms, Typhoons
May 17, 2012, 02:27:42 PM
thanks, tigs.  kanyahay ra medyo ngitngit ang langit diri karon.  i'll be on the lookout because i'm traveling tomorrow, pohon.
#33533
what does a serious blogger sacrifice then?  probably hours of sleep and a breaking back.
#33534
Quote from: chicogon on May 17, 2012, 05:48:27 AM
Aw o diay... si BIB diay to. But that's exactly one of my points... di lalim mag update/sustain one's creative juices. Passion!!! Passion!!! Passion!!! You have to have passion for such as these, dili lang hobby-hobby ;D

yes!  no achievement should come easy.  i still remember one article about those young figure-skaters of olympic stature.  if ever they make it look easy, it's because they have put in grueling hours of punishing practices and have sacrificed a lot in their growing years.  no wonder i was never cut out to be an olympian.  i never skated again after my first fall.

quid pro quo is the name of the game.  mons. rudy villanueva's grades suffered terribly when he spent most of his waking hours writing as renato madrid.  (that's according to my brother, who was a freshman college at the seminary when mons. rudy was a senior). 

banana republic cried when michael jackson died.  knowing him, i bet he's not familiar with any michael jackson music.  but he said, "look at what the guy offered at the altar of his art."  hasta ako, cry-cry na lang pod hinoon bisag di mi kaila ni michael.   
#33535
it's been day 40 as of today, may 17.  the chief justice's impeachment trial at the senate has been commented on ad nauseam in other threads in this forum.  personally, i'm already tired of that circus. ;D
#33536
she gave a painting to a dear friend of mine who explained to me the circumstances of the gift.  (i asked too many questions as i visually explored the walls of her house that was full of artworks, that's why.  magsaysay-ho's was one of those.)  that dear friend passed away 4 years ahead of the lady artist.  may they rest in peace.
#33537
huffington post is one site i often visit.  it's so up-to-date with world news.  but let me ask you now about brass tacks.  what do bloggers get aside from the exposure?  like good wine, writing well takes time, so are bloggers paid for their work?  can the credits of their blogs be stolen?
#33538
by the way, scandalous diay kun di ang imong choice ang modaog?  don't bother.  give those beauties 5 years.  mabilbilon ra lagi na silang tanan.  reality check. ;D 
#33539
another scandal? ??? why does scandal become news in our country?  isumbong kay tito sotto para maimbestiga.  the senate has become an investigating body that's why.   
#33540
yes, i reviewed your first post.  sorry.  i simply presumed.

this renders the search harder because we cannot pin down the school.  oh-oh.  would that you know his name. 
#33541
all the existing big colleges and universities in cebu already had law schools even then, the decade of the 1970s being far from being the decade of the 1940s.  but i thought you mentioned the university of san carlos as your father's school, or did i get you wrong, kayang?
#33542
Eat My Balls  (a fishball cart near UST)

Fish Be With You  (an aquatic pet store in Malolos)

and the business slogan to end all slogans:

Asian Mobile Massage Service: Massage only, God is watching.  (mobile massage business slogan)
#33543
there used to be 2 restaurants facing each other across a busy street two blocks away from where i am now.  their names?  Putahing Ina Mo and Putahing Ina Mo Rin.  makakaon man tuod ta, pero mamalikas una.  wa lang ko kahibawo kun free ba ang mosiyagit. ;D
#33544
SHOEPERMAN: we will HEEL you, save your SOLE, and even DYE for you”.  (a shoe repair shop along Commonwealth Ave., Quezon City)

and oh, yes, they mean it! ;D
#33545
i believe the information overload in this forum goes with the territory.  it takes in just about anything and does not specialize in any subject.  i'm glad it is so.
#33546
interesting.  a blog is a personal website after all.  (i go for paul krugman's, who i thought can be read in cyberspace because he has a column in the uk's the economist magazine.  i wondered then why he was called a blogger at different times.)  if tubagbohol didn't have members and mike ligalig made entries all by himself, then this forum could have been a blog.
#33547
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
The skulls

At this point, I could no longer contain my curiosity and asked him about the human skull. “Did this belong to a victim of your paktol?”

“No”, Manong Edol said, “That is actually the skull of a former neighbor who died of a natural cause many years ago. I asked the family if they could give me the skull for my sorcery, and they agreed.” Apparently, most of his neighbors feel honored if Manong Edol asked them for anything, even for the skull of a loved one.

Manong Edol used to perform paktol in a hidden cave in Cang-Atuyom. But one day, he discovered that his secret cave had been found by looters who stole his skull collection. He had to ask other neighbors for the skull of their dead kin in the nearby cemetery. It was gladly given to him. He then built the nipa house at the back of his house to use for performing his craft in lieu of the looted cave.

“Up to now,” he said with visible pride, “no one has ever said 'no' to me, whenever I ask them for the skull of their relative.”

Also a healer

Manong Edol is also very much in demand for his gift of healing. He can heal those that have been hexed by other sorcerers. He can also heal illnesses that had already been declared hopeless cases by medical doctors. For this reason, Manong Edol is also considered a mananambal (shaman).


for the full text, please go to: Conversations with a Sorcerer by Dennis Villegas at http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33548
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 04:47:57 PM
Sorcerer versus sorcerer

“Can you also cure a person who has been hexed by another sorcerer?”

“Oh yes,” Manong Edol said with a hint of pride in his voice, “Everyone here knows my work. If someone has been cursed by another sorcerer, they just come here and I heal them.”

“How do you cure them?”

“I can command the other sorcerer to release the spell.”

"What if he refuses?”

“No sorcerer has refused my command. Otherwise he will be punished by my own hex.”

“Does that mean you have to meet the other sorcerer face to face?” I asked, bewildered.

“Not necessarily,” answered Manong Edol, “I can command the other sorcerers by whispering. They always obey me.”


-from Conversations with a Sorcerer, an interview-based article by Dennis Villegas
http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33549
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 04:44:28 PM
The white man has now been cursed.

“What will happen to him?” I asked.

“He will suffer a terrible illness,” he answered. “Then he will die.”

“What if he asks for forgiveness?”

“If the aggrieved woman forgives him, then I will release the curse. But he must do so soon. When his illness turns to worse, I can no longer reverse the paktol."

“How will you know if the curse took effect?”

“I will receive a call from the client telling me that the person has died.”

The paktol, according to Manong Edol, will take effect as soon as he is finished with the procedure. At this very moment, he told me, the white man would already be suffering from nausea, vomiting, and a terrible headache. In a few days, his stomach will bloat and he will bleed from the inside. No medical doctor can cure the illness caused by paktol. The torment will end with death. The doctors will say that this or that illness caused the patient to die, but he would have actually died because of the paktol.

“How many people have you already put to death by means of the paktol?”

“Hundreds,” he replied. He then pulled out a high school notebook containing all the names of the people he has cursed with paktol. Indeed, there were hundreds of name written there. I was curious to know if there were familiar names listed in the list. I was relieved when I did not find any.

(color emphasis mine)

-from Conversations with a Sorcerer, an interview-based article by Dennis Villegas
http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33550
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Performing the paktol

After the clients left, Manong Edol led us to a small nipa hut at the back of his house. By then, the rain had diminished into a drizzle and we navigated easily the short distance, carrying lighted candles to see our way. The house was about ten square meters in size. In the middle was a small table, on top of which was a human skull, a white candle, a small tin can, a piece of white paper, and a pen. It is here where Manong Edol performs the paktol.

In one corner was a small altar with a Santo Nino and various other miniature statues and pictures of saints. He confirmed he was Roman Catholic, when I asked. In another corner of the room were three cats that seemed very still and quiet, and beside them, more skulls.

Meanwhile, Manong Edol started to perform the ritual. He knelt before the altar and prayed in whispers. He then took out a small book from where he recited more prayers, but in a mysterious language, which Johnson did not understand. It was definitely not Visayan.

After praying, Manong Edol lit the candle and put it inside the tin can, which he placed beside the skull. Taking a piece of paper, he wrote the name of the white man on it and inserted it into the skull. He then burned both photographs given to him by his client, using the candle light. When the photographs disintegrated into ash, he placed them in the tin can and whispered the paktol.


-from Conversations with a Sorcerer, an interview-based article by Dennis Villegas
http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33551
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
oooppps, did you say eddie borja?  oh-oh.  if he's leonides borja, then he's a relative of mine.  (second degree, once removed.)  it is beginning to look like all boholanos are relatives.
#33552
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
i swear she wouldn't have refused if you offered her the whole restaurant. ;D
#33553
Quote from: Kayang on May 16, 2012, 03:28:26 PM
didto ko nagdako sa magtiayon nga walay mga anak , cla ang nagpadako nako , bali ang akong Papa-Papa ang iyang sister ang niingon nga morag Celso ang name sa akong father  . . .ang mga nagpadako nako og ang akong real father dili cla relatives , wala clay connection .....ty

oh, my.  now i understand the complication... your mother could have been the best source of the name. 

well, you're already in your early 30s, right?  so your mother should have nothing to do with your desire to connect with your biological father because you owe it only to yourself.  hundreds, if not thousands, may read this thread as well as the posts you made in other websites.  one may lead to another.  there won't be such a thing as cyberspace if you could not meet him one day.  go, go, go, kayang!   
#33554
faet.  ahat ba nga naangin si gabriel ingles dinhi in a different way.  so sorry.  i simply mentioned him not as a potential father but as someone who may have been a good gateway to look for celso the father of kayang.

far from fathering a child in his student days, i could even say that gabriel ingles impressed me as someone who didn't care much about women.  i even thought he would become a priest and never marry.  may i request that we leave gabriel ingles out of this, now.
#33555
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Lorenzo on May 16, 2012, 03:36:23 PM
He he he, I really learn a lot just by reading your postings here, Isles. One can't help but be amazed by the terminology our fellow Bol-anon use in their daily speech. All this time, I never really asked what was the meaning of 'Pwera Bujag', I had always thought it meant "Thank You" , pero wrong man to'ng assumption nako. :P

actually, it does seem that you're not wrong.  "puwera bujag" can also be an acknowledgment that one agrees with the other person's estimation.  you know how we filipinos (and most especially boholanos) are; sometimes we communicate in a slanting manner, probably because talking straight is talking rude.  instead of saying no, we say "tan-awon lang nako" (i'll see what i can do).  you bet it's so un-american. ;D   

this "cultural style" may spill over to appointments (thus the filipino time?) and even traffic lights!  green is go, amber is go with caution, red is go at your own risk!? ;D     
#33556
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 03:41:39 PM
Arrival of clients

Meanwhile, two people appeared at the door: a young woman in her twenties and an older lady who looked like her mother. Manong Edol welcomed the guests, bade them to come inside, and introduced them to me.

The young lady and her mother live in Dumaguete and came to Siquijor to seek Manong Edol’s help.

The young woman requested me not to take photographs while she was around and I agreed.

She then told us her story, the intimate details of which I cannot divulge here for obvious reasons. In summary, a white man seemed to have taken advantage of her. In other words, her honor was besmirched. She wanted revenge, she said, as she pulled out from her purse two small photographs of the offender.

I soon found out that in this remote region, people very rarely go to the police to seek justice. For many, the mangkukulam is the chief judge in many disputes: whoever he finds guilty he punishes by death or illness.

From what I gathered, anyone who needed the service of Manong Edol must first convince him that revenge is truly justified. Manong Edol explained he does not take every case presented to him. He listens to the account of what took place, weighs the facts, and only takes the case when he is satisfied someone has been truly aggrieved, hurt, or disgraced. Apparently, there are three very serious offenses that merit the use of the paktol: an insult cast on a family; dishonoring a woman; and murder. Manong Edol ignores cases involving politicians or petty crimes.

Manong Edol assured the mother and daughter that he will now take the case. They gave him the two pictures, and wrote the name of the white man on a piece of paper. Before leaving, they gave Manong Edol an envelope containing money. He did not tell me how much money was inside, but he confided later that he usually charges P6,000 to P40,000, depending on the client’s status in life.

(color emphasis mine)

-from Conversations with a Sorcerer, an interview-based article by Dennis Villegas
http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33557
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Lorenzo on May 16, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
Very interesting. Thank you for explaining that, Isles. :)

most welcome; i'm not sure about my explanation though.  i just took it in context, hehe. ;D
#33558
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 03:26:42 PM
since your example is an exchange between friends, the context of "puwera bujag" there seems more like a display of modesty.  some of us can't take much flattery, so instead of saying "salamat", we say "puwera bujag".
#33559
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 03:24:21 PM
it's supposed to be a phrase for avoiding the reverse of a flattering statement.  as for its beginnings, that would be worthwhile exploring.  i haven't come across this phrase's history.  (if it isn't out there yet, this is something for the cebuano studies center at the university of san carlos in cebu or the cultural office of holy name university in tagbilaran.) 

an example: wow, kalami niyag mata uy. 
answer: puwera buyag.

(mahadlok tingali nga malibat, hahaha!  they say those with violet tongues can cause the reverse, so some flattering remarks from strangers could actually be curses in disguise.)
#33561
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:58:02 PM
the terminologies seem clearer now.  i thought paktol was just a joke.  i never heard of gaway, until now.  barang seems a more common term. 
#33562
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Barang and gaway

The barang is a powerful procedure that involves keeping an army of insects. The insects are kept inside a bottle or a bamboo tube and are trained to hurt a guilty person. A piece of paper with the name of the person to be hexed is tied with a string to the neck of the insect. It is then commanded to lodge itself into any of the body openings of the victim. The insect wreaks havoc inside the body that results in death.

According to Manong Edol, he no longer performs barang because of the difficulty of "disciplining" the insects.

"These little creatures can be very unruly," he said, "so I no longer use them. Besides, they cannot hurt someone who has already fled to another island. The insects cannot travel across the sea. Barang is a very old and outdated procedure, and I doubt if there are any more mambabarang in Siquijor. Otherwise I would have already felt their powers."

Manong Edol is right. By now, the barang is a lost craft. The barang was described by a Spanish chronicler as early as the 16th century. In 1578, a Spanish traveler named Diego Lope Povedano wrote: "They( the Visayans) have another way of killing their enemies who do them harm. In a bamboo tube, they put some insects similar to house flies, but with hard skins. They call these barang…”

The gaway, on the other hand, involves making a rag or waxen doll in the likeness of the person to be cursed. The sorcerer sticks a needle into the part where he wants his victim to suffer; if he sticks a needle in the stomach, the victim will suffer a terrible stomachache, and so on. Sometimes needles are not necessary; simply applying force to the part of the doll is enough. Nevertheless, Manong Edol avoids doing gaway because he wants to concentrate his powers on the paktol.

-from Conversations with a Sorcerer, an interview-based article by Dennis Villegas
http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33563
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:45:30 PM
contrary to my belief (pre-reading of this article), the mambabarang (di diay mamamarang as i've written earlier kay prutas man diay na) subject sounds benign and gentle.
#33564
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:43:42 PM
“How do you call your form of sorcery?” I began.

“There are three procedures that I can perform,” Manong Edol said, “paktol, barang, and gaway. The paktol is a curse I put on a person I want to suffer or die. The barang, on the other hand, is commanding insects to hurt a person. Lastly, the gaway involves a rag or waxen doll which I pierce in the part where I want the hex victim to suffer.”

I have been hearing about paktol, barang, and gaway for years. A sorcerer who uses the paktol, barang, or gaway is known as a mangkukulam, mambabarang, or manggaway, respectively. Manong Edol is all three, although he prefers using paktol than the other two.

-from Conversations with a Sorcerer, an interview-based article by Dennis Villegas
http://www.thepoc.net/thepoc-features/buhay-pinoy/buhay-pinoy-features/6101-kulam-is-alive-and-well-in-mystical-siquijor.html
#33565
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:21:58 PM
The mambabarang & the mangkukulam

    For several years I have searched the island hoping to find a genuine mangkukulam or mambabarang (witch). I have talked to many of the island’s residents and most agree that mangkukulams probably do not exist. However, the same people have also advised me to be very careful in my search.

    There is a simple difference between a mangkukulam and a mambabarang. The mangkukulam needs to use a piece of the proposed victim’s personal property. The more powerful mambabarang needs only the memory of the victim’s face to cast a spell.

    Most of the healers (mananambals) that I have spoken with deny the very existence of witches in general. On the other hand, some claim that they can only heal illnesses caused by dark spirits and that they direct individuals sick from natural causes to medical doctors. Regardless of their stance on the issue, the majority of the healers offer some sort of potion or amulet to keep evil spirits at bay.

    In my quest to locate a local mangkukulam (or mambabarang) I met a very talkative healer that nervously asked to remain anonymous. He informed me that if a “bad side healer” would reveal their identity they would be killed.  He assured me that it would take me many years to win the confidence of a witch to a degree that they would expose themselves.

    It has been said that most mangkukulams prefer to notify their “subject” that they have been cursed. Consequently, I am quite confident that the power of suggestion plays a vital role in the successful casting of a spell.

    Though I have never personally met an authentic mangkukulam/ mambabarang, or seen proof of their powers, I cannot dispute their existence. Considering the numerous tales of sorcery, and the level of fear that is often present whenever the subject of witchcraft surfaces, who can really say? As for me, I will continue my search so hopefully one day I can witness the kulam first hand.

Siquijor Gary
http://www.mysiquijor.com/MagicBlack.html
#33566
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:12:37 PM
we always get back what we give, and more, matod pa.  we reap what we sow, di ba?  in the case of barang, sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.

mao nga kun naa moy kontra unya di gyod mahiluna imong kalag kun di ka kabawos ug di gyod pod ka kapasaylo, na, maayo pay layugon na lang nimo.  ang punoan sa saging, i mean.  tagbaw gyod ka, and you do no harm gawas sa environment because there would be one banana plant less. 

go to a mamamarang at your own peril.   
#33567
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:05:17 PM
pero, kwidaw, grabe sad mo-backfire.  di pod lalim ang gaba (o karma).  mapikhan pod ug dobleng hapak ang gapabarang, ang mamamarang bisag unsaon pag kamang ug paningkamot one-day-one-eat ra gyod intawon.  wa man tingali ta makadungog ug mamamarang nga living it up, right?  gawas tingali ug atong pasumanginlan ning mga dato in our midst nga nadato tungod kay namarang... which is impossible kay si sir balong lang daan, kahibawo man ta nga nadato because of his knowledge and risk-taking in the stock market.
#33568
Question and Answer / Re: Motuo Ka ug Barang?
May 16, 2012, 02:03:48 PM
oo.  it's nothing but negative energy and there are those with the ability to bestow it, strongly at that.  but since it's negative, then there must be an equal and opposite side, the positive.  this is in the form of prayers and protection.  matakilpo man gani ta kun naay manungo, kana pa ba kahang barang nga grabeg destructive energy.
#33569
the uss north carolina will leave three days from now, on may 19.  will these complaining leftists take over, please?
#33570
they're barking because they want to protect our constitution, what else.  too bad they have no solution on how to protect our territorial integrity, which is also in our constitution.  if territorial integrity goes, what is there to have a constitution for?
#33571
ni-try ko sa usc law alumni, basin ba diay ug naay celso (the first name of the father you are looking for) nga ning-graduate... then we can take off from there.  malas.  kinahanglan pa man diay mo-register as an alumna pod.  sayang wa na si gabriel ingles didto sa cebu kay dia na sa manila as justice of the court of appeals.  morag mao-mao mang mga tuiga sila nag-schooling, bisag medyo morag manghod-manghod gamay si gabriel ingles.  (my estimate is that your biological father must have been born between the late 1940s to the early 1950s; he must be in his late 50s or early 60s now).

sayon ra pod unta pag-trace a couple of years back kay si gabriel ingles pa man ang dean sa law school sa usc, pilay pad unta sa unggoy, kana kun okay ba nga mangita ug name without stepping on someone's privacy.  but that's water under the bridge...

anyways, no promises made, kayang, but i'm going to cebu anytime soon.  i can ask some friends working at usc to help trace the name of a certain celso from bohol who studied law from 1971-1974 and thereabouts.  if we can come up with a complete name, the road of your search may start to get paved.

by the way, do you still speak or at least understand our local language?
#33572
hanep!  ahat ba... hahaha!  ghostwriter/buster sa presidente sa dajong. ;D
#33573
Quote from: chicogon on May 12, 2012, 05:49:19 AM
We played this when I was in college (thrid year) - at a concern - among solist was Gabriel Mission. Usa ni sa akong paborito, uban sa "Look At All My Trials And Tribulation."  8)

napari ba ni si gabriel mission?  kaila man god ni sa akong best friend.  di hinoon nako siya kaila, but i think i have a memory of who he is, morag kulot man to...
#33574
aaahhh, wouldn't it be nice to learn russian in china, eat ilocano food in the u.s., take a boat to ecuador on a panamanian ship, go skiing at the swiss alps and land on the chocolate hills? ;D
#33575
i clicked the link, briefly gave a look-see to what came out, and liked the design.  i'm still trying to make heads and tails of what a blog is, though, and why you called attention to the idea of a bohol bloggers society or whatever.  my understanding then is that members are needed. 

(i'm no techie; it's enough miracle for me that i learned a few little things by experimenting in this forum.  reading fr chic's posts in this thread is also helping me get some ideas as to how things work in cyberspace.  i have no facebook account because my idea of facebook is limited to my kids' and nieces' posed pictures.  i hate those; what are they doing there, displaying themselves to the world?  now i don't even know if my conclusion is correct. ;D ) 

i don't mind being a blogger (which i take as someone who contributes) as long as i have the proper guidance.  so far, i'm contented with tubagbohol where everything under the sun and the planets and the milky way and black holes out there can be had, side by side with the unique boholano humor.  now, this last one matters.  i feel it's the magnet that attracts us all.

but if a blogging kind of society is necessary, as i can glean from you, jig, well, would it be too much to call on tb's webmaster to do the task?  i mean, if he finds the time from his law studies.  hello there, mol!     
#33576
gabitay man god iyang grado diri sa iyang school...

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#33581
Tira-Pasagad | Saksak-Sinagol / Schooling Blues
May 16, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
#33582
China shouldn’t provoke Filipino greatness. If the Chinese still believe in the fates of nations being influenced by other unworldly powers, they should review the unusual circumstances that led to the rise of this Philippine president. 

Shakespeare: “Madness in great ones must never unwatched go.”

***

Note: The quoted Asian expert, W. Scott Thompson, is a Philippine and Asian expert, was a member of both the Ford and Reagan Administrations, has been adjunct professor of International Politics at Georgetown University and on the faculty of Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University, among other positions.


more at: Asian expert thinks China miscalculated
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo
The Philippine Star
May 03, 2012
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=803128&publicationSubCategoryId=64
#33583
China shouldn’t underestimate the impact of great leaders that can inspire David victories against bullying Goliaths. The Chinese can read about Leonidas of Sparta and Ho Chi Minh of Vietnam for starters. They should also read about how the Ancient Roman Empire was shocked when their highly touted Ninth Legion disappeared sans a trace in Caledonia, now Scotland. The Chinese should read what Germany’s Otto Von Bismarck said about God marching through history at certain crucial periods. They might become victims of unseen global landscape changing events.
#33584
“That’s why smarter people in Beijing are having second thoughts; if for nothing else, for timing. It’s too soon for them to start baring the claws.” Scott closed his article.

Although Scott didn’t mention it, a great deal of the Chinese miscalculation was in underestimating the character of President Noynoy Aquino (P-Noy). P-Noy has been playing his cards right and maintaining equanimity all throughout this crisis. Evidently, P-Noy is no Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, whom a European ambassador suspects scuttled the MOA-AD after her trip to China.
#33585
Scott further elaborated: “So, when a senior Filipino adviser said that he hoped Beijing “bombs the hell out of us, because then the Philippines becomes a united nation”, he meant it. And of course he knows the consequences. ASEAN tightens up, solidarity all around, and Obama doubles the base in Darwin and Manila, renews long dormant but never dead ties (and tons of military assistance to the Philippines).”
#33586
“Now some of the smartest Filipinos are saying that the best thing the Chinese could do for the Philippines is to blast its coast from its vastly superior navy. The country is already showing a rare unanimity and nationhood over the confrontation at the Scarborough Shoal in what Manila calls the West Philippine Sea. If Beijing not only bared its fangs but let loose the cannon, the whole world would react â€" on Manila’s side. The “work in progress” of building a really coherent Filipino nation would benefit enormously. Already Manila has said that its Balikatan (shared effort) exercises with the United States Navy would proceed, even as Beijing blames them anew for causing the rumpus.” Scott wrote.
#33587
Asian expert thinks China miscalculated

“My own feeling is that the Chinese miscalculated. For nine years, the president, the unlamented Gloria Arroyo, let the Chinese have whatever they wanted, in return for personal favors â€" like the incredible broadband project, which allegedly carried with it a 50 percent cut to the first family (or more) and blew up in their faces.”

Scott added: “Washington has a president whose view of the world didn’t start with Europe, like every predecessor of his. Europe’s shine was dimming anyway. He started in Asia, having spent his boyhood in Jakarta and Hawaii. It gives that global map a different perspective. And interestingly, that perspective corresponded with the real trend in world politics, everything shifting perceptibly to Asia.”
#33588
naa baya poy utangan nga maoy mangaway kun paninglan. ;D bitaw, this is part of geopolitics and diplomatese.  pakit-anay ug capability, panghadlaay. 
#33589
Quote from: islander on May 16, 2012, 09:54:35 AM
The vessel is one of the stealthiest, most technologically advanced submarines in the world.

“She brings to the region the capability to conduct the full spectrum of potential submarine missions including anti-submarine warfare, naval special warfare involving special operations forces, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, and mine warfare,” the USPACOM said in a press statement.

how reassuring. 
#33590
Quote from: islander on May 16, 2012, 09:54:35 AM
While Philippine Navy (PN) officials appeared not to be fully aware of the USS Carolina’s presence in Subic, high-level sources said the submarine would be staying at the former US Naval base for re-provisioning and will leave on May 19.

hampasabol.  tell that to the marines. ;D  thanks for the visit.  and the warning to you-know-who.
#33591
Quote from: islander on May 16, 2012, 09:52:45 AM
Unlike the visits of other US vessels in the country, the docking of USS Carolina at Subic bolstered earlier speculations that the US government, while openly declaring that it will not interfere in any territorial dispute in the region, is also closely watching the prevailing standoff between the Philippines and China over ownership of Bajo de Masinloc or “Karburo” to local fishermen.

call it by any other name, big brother. ;D
#33592
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#33594
Meanwhile, the Philippine Navy’s flagship, BRP Gregorio del Pilar, a second-hand Hamilton-class cutter acquired from the US, was pulled from its maritime mission in the West Philippine Sea for maintenance.

But contrary to reports that the frigate’s weapons system bogged down at the height of the standoff in Panatag last week, everything is working, the Navy said.

“It’s just a scheduled maintenance. She underwent preventive maintenance last week,” Navy spokesman Lt. Col. Omar Tonsay said of the frigate.

http://www.philstar.com/
#33595
The Philippines and the US have a Mutual Defense Treaty (MDT), which requires both parties to come to defend the other in the event of armed aggression.

While Philippine Navy (PN) officials appeared not to be fully aware of the USS Carolina’s presence in Subic, high-level sources said the submarine would be staying at the former US Naval base for re-provisioning and will leave on May 19.

USS Carolina, whose homeport is Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, is 350 feet long and weighs more than 7,800 tons when submerged.

The vessel is one of the stealthiest, most technologically advanced submarines in the world.

“She brings to the region the capability to conduct the full spectrum of potential submarine missions including anti-submarine warfare, naval special warfare involving special operations forces, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, and mine warfare,” the USPACOM said in a press statement.
#33596
“The crew is proud of our recent contributions as part of our country’s commitment to maintaining freedom of navigation, peace and stability in the region,” said Richard Rhinehart, North Carolina’s commanding officer, in a press statement released by the United States-Pacific Command (USPACOM).

USS Carolina is the fourth submarine in the Virginia class, the Navy’s newest class of submarine and the first ship designed for the post-Cold War environment.

The submarine is designed to operate with stealth, agility and endurance in the world’s littoral regions, as well as the deep oceans.

Unlike the visits of other US vessels in the country, the docking of USS Carolina at Subic bolstered earlier speculations that the US government, while openly declaring that it will not interfere in any territorial dispute in the region, is also closely watching the prevailing standoff between the Philippines and China over ownership of Bajo de Masinloc or “Karburo” to local fishermen.
#33597
US submarine surfaces in Subic

By Jaime Laude
The Philippine Star
May 16, 2012




MANILA, Philippines - One of the most modern submarines in the United States Navy surfaced last Sunday in Subic Bay in Zambales where it is currently deployed to ensure freedom of navigation in the Western Pacific.

The arrival of the Virginia-class fast attack submarine USS North Carolina (SSN-777) came as the Philippines is embroiled in a standoff with China for more than a month now in Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal, 124 nautical miles from mainland Zambales.
#33598
Product Reviews / Re: Cool summer slippers
May 16, 2012, 09:43:46 AM
unsa may gamiton ani, broadband? ;D
#33599
fishcake unya chorizo diay?  libog akong kutaw aning estoryaha da.  wa ba kaha tawon mga hubog ning bandaha?  abangan: tinughong nga balanghoy. ;D
#33600
kahilakon man ko ani.  i wish you honest-to-goodness success in your search, kayang.  i also wish you happiness in your closure of your personal history and identity.