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Happy and Ginger;

Ang gobierno sa Scandinavian countries pareho sa British ang mga pamaagi pero karon ang Britain gihinay-hinay na nila ug usob ang ilang pamaagi pinaagi ining gitawag ug 'privatization' nga mopareho na sila sa Amerika diin ang mga public utilities kontrolado sa mga pribadong kompanya. Pero ang Scandinavian countries wa gihapon ma-usob ang pamaagi. Ang mga sanga sa gobierno sama pananglit sa health care, transport system, insurance system, water and sewerage system ug uban pang sangay... kontrolado sa gobierno. Naa pay usa nga gusto gyud ni sa katawhan... kanang gitawag ug 'dole system'. Kini ug wa kay trabaho, minyo ka ug naay imong mga anak o inbalido ka... Tagaan ka ug kuarta sa gobierno. Mao ni nga moingon si Ginger nga nindot ang padagan sa gobierno kay hinatagan man ug kuarta ang mga tawo. Dili pareha sa atong Pilipinas nga sigi lang ug sulti ug 'Freedom' pero ang kadaghanan diay gi-panggutom.

WN

Happy,

Naa diay ka sa Denmark. O kanang Denmark parliamentary pud ang system nila pero naay 'feature' anang ilang gobierno pareha sa Sweden, Norway ug Finland, mao nang gitawag state welfare system. Kini tungod kay ang ilang gobierno socialist democracy.

WN

John,

Politics is an art... so they say. But it is normal for people who are engaged in politics to be bias in their individual political principle. In reality, politics is a war of political principles. It is this art in politics that is what we call as an alternative to a civil war. In the absence of politics a civil war will takeover. Boot pasabot nga ang pulitika gubat lang sa laway ug prinsipyo, dili pinusilay.

The U.S. government is my prime example. The government is divided into 3 branches. Kining tulo ka sanga sa gobierno naay ilang lain-laing kaugalingong gahum sa pang-gobierno. Example... during the presidential election of Al Gore of the U.S. Democratic party versus George W. Bush Jr. of the Republican party, there was these hotly contested 13 counties in Florida.

This is the explanation;

Si Al Gore kung sumahon hingdaug na sa popular vote pero kinahanglan nga makakuha pa siya ug mga boto nga electoral para modaug siya. Nag protesta si Al Gore sa 13 counties for a recount kay nakita nga naay discripancies sa counting sa 13 counties. Kung mag-ihap ug usob dako ang puruhan ni Al Gore nga modaug siya. Pero nagpataliwa ang Supreme Court... Miingon ang Supreme Court sa Amerika nga kung iphon pa ang mga boto sa 13 counties sa Florida molapas na sa petsa 2 sa Enero ang pag-ihap ug mosupak na sa gitagana sa gisulat sa batakang balaod nga kinahanglan maproklama ang presidente sa Amerika sa petsa 2 sa Enero.

Boot pasabot ini nga si Al Gore untay modaug kung hingsugit pa ang Korte Suprema nga mag-ihap ug usob. Mangutana usa ta... Is the U.S. Supreme Court bias in their decision not to recount the votes in the 13 counties of Florida? The answer is, no! The Supreme Court just followed what is mandated by law. Mao ni giingon nga 'technicality of law' mao nga napildi si Al Gore. Those bias political followers of the Democratic party... did they accept the decision of the Supreme Court. Yes of course because it is inherent in the American people in their respect of the rule of law. Wa sila magpinusilay. Ang militar wa pud mag apil-apil sa pulitka.

Karon John atong balikan tong imo pang giingon. Ang sulti nimo mao ni; "Even if we've know that we are in the wrong direction but we close our eyes and we wrap our ears, why?" Tinood ning imong gisulti. Kini hitabo ni sa Pilipinas. Because in the Philippines we are not yet politically matured people. Pananglitan kana si Ex-CJ Hilario Davide Jr.. Kini siya schooled in one of the most prominent schools in the Philippines, sa U.P.. But even how learned you are, once partisan politics will invade your inner senses you will become a stupid person. Matud pa sa akong ig-agaw nga kun angat na ang pulitika daghang mangabuang sa Bohol o sa Pilipinas ba hinoon. Mao ni nahitabo ni Davide tungod kay nahimong 'bias' ang iyang panghuna-huna batok ni Erap sa paghusga niya nga si GMA kuno ang presidente sa Pilipinas. Hing-apil pa siya ug demonstrate sa EDSA II. Iya karong gihimo 'leftist' ang korte suprema sa Pilipinas. Ang mga 'leftist' bisan ug mga leftist sa tibook kalibutan 'bias' ang ilang mga panghuna-huna. Si Davide... ang nahitabo nga labaw pa siya sa balaod.

WN             

Grazie,

Sa English mao ni 'constitution'.

WN

Unsaon pagluto ug dugo-dugo, balbakua ug paklay.

Quote from: Lorenzo on July 11, 2007, 12:13:21 AM
OK. We all know who he was and what he did for the Philippines/ and or to the Philippines. However whenever I talk to my pinoy friends and their parents they have very different conflicting views of Pres. Marcos. I know my family--specially my dad's side of the family who hail him as one of the greatest presidents of the Republic--and there is my mom's side who like him because of his electricity program to Bohol--and his Machismo-esque ordered society. Then there are other Filipinos like my friends' parents who hail from other parts of the Philippines and have very negative views of Marcos. They point out his corrupt flaws and  his anti-democratic ideologies--and talk of him being an embodiment of a cruel/ruthless dictator similar to those of the likes of Fidel Castro, Sadaam Hussein, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Sukarto and Sukarno.

What are your views on this man?? Any personal experiences at all?



Lorenzo,

This is your premise; "We all know who he was and what he did for the Philippines/ and or to the Philippines." This has something to do with politics and this is abstract and debatable. I'll give you something that is tangible and definite and everybody knows that it's there and it is still working for the Filino people until now. Here are the following Marcos accomplishment during his presidency;


a) To attract investments, he established, under PD 66, the Export Processing Authority and enacted Investment Incentives Act under PD 485.

b) He established the Department of Energy and its subsidiaries and affiliates to address the sourcing, supplying and distribution of oil requirements.

c) To develop and promote agricultural products, he created the National Irrigation Administration under PD 552.

d) Since coconut is a major export product, he established the Philippine Coconut Authroity under PD 232 to address the problems of the coconut industry.

e) as an alternative source of revenues, he planted the seeds for local and foreign tourists by establishing the Philippine Tourism Authority under PD 564.

f) As an alternative source of revenues, he established Pagcor to operate gambling under PD 1869.

g) To upgrade the banking system and invite foreign banks to do business in the Philippines under certain incentives and guarantees, FM caused the establishment of Offshore-Banking System in the Philippines under PD 1034.

h) To legalize the Filipino trait of gambling through horse racing or cockfighting, he caused the establishment of the Philippine Racing Commission under PD 420 and the Cockfighting Law under PD 1140 to govern and regulate the same.

i) to ensure that the deposits of small depositors will not be deprived of their deposits by bank runs or closure of banks, he caused the establishment of the Philippine Deposit Insurance Corp. (PDIC) under PD 1094 insuring the liabilities of the banks/

j) The Philippine Retirement Authority under E.O. 1037, series of 1985.

k) The Movie and Television Review and Classification Board under PD 1986.

(l) Philippine Estates Authority under PD 1084.

Marcos all together of course with the aid of experts in law in his government issued 7,800 presidential decrees, letters of intruction, Letters of Implementation,  General Orders, executive orders, proclamations and some more. Of all of these only one/tenth is being repealed or abolished and all the rest is functioning smoothly in our government today. If Marcos had not done something for the good of the people everything he established in government should have been abolished. Shakepeare once said; "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

WN

Grazie7y,

Oi maayo pung adlaw nimo diha! Ako pud kung huna-hunaon usa ko sa mga original nga mga demonstrator sa Makati batok ni Marcos. Sa pag-abot ni Ninoy Aquino sa MIA niadtong Agosto 21, 1983 diha ko mitagbo. Nagpunsisok mi didto sa sud sa MIA kay gipasud mi sa militar. Diha'y purpose adto kay aron dili makalantaw ang tawo gawas sa pader. Tungod kay igang hinggawas ko ug maoy akong nakita tong helicopter nga nag-hover sa tarmac ug diha'y naghapa nga naga barong naglantaw sa ubos sa tarmac. Abtan ug 20 minutos migawas si Laurel sunod si Butch Aquino nga nagpahibaw nga gipusil si Ninoy sa tarmac.

Mao pud sugod ang akong pagka aktibista batok ni Marcos. Pero sa napukan na si Marcos nalipay ko kay natawo na ang bag-ong demokrasya. Paghuman ni Cory sa iyang termino mipuli si Ramos. Si Ramos diha'y iyang lihok nga nawili siya sa gahum sa hapit ang iyang termino, kay boot niya usbon ang batakang balaod, pero natakpan siya gitawag ug 'public opinion'. Karon ang sunod nga napili sa katawhan mao si Erap. Ako supak ko sa iyang kandidatura mao nga ang akong giboto si JDV.. Pero wa pa gani abti si Erap ug duha ka tuig pahawa-on na pud siya sa puesta sama ki Marcos. Ngano man? Di ba ang singgit sa una batok ni Marcos nga ibalik ang demokrasya, hustisya ug ang kamatooran. Kung pahawa-on si Erap demokrasya ba?
Saa man ini ang demokrasya kung pahawa-on si Erap?

WN

Grazie7y and Happy,

Maayo bitaw nga namugna ang 'written constitution' kay kadtong mga pung sa hari puro tulumanon nga sundon sa tawo. [duties and obligations to the king] Pero sa nahisulat na ang batakang balaod sa mga Amerkano gisulti na didto ang 'Bill of Rights'. Sa French constitution mao tong 'Rights of Man'. Pero pag-abot sa Pilipinas gi-abuso ang 'Bill of Rights' kay wa na may mosunod sa ilang mga tulumanon nga mao man untay daghan na nga nahisulat sa batakang balaod, sama pananglit sa pagbayad ug buhis. Daghan kaayo nato ning molikay pagbayad ug buhis. Puro na lang ang huna-huna ang ilang katungod pero ang ilang tulumanon hingkalimtan na.

Happy.... Kaning parliament nagagikan sa Monarchy sa England. Tinood nang imong sulti. Nganong moingon man ka nga; 'Diri bitaw naay Paliament ug government.' Saa man diay ka? Naa ka sa Canada? Aw kung mao na, kanang Canada apil na sa British commonwealth. Kining mga miembro sa commonwealth naay parliament unya ang ilang head of state mao nang monarch of England. Ining tampunga si Qn. Elizabeth II. So technically they are not an independent country. Makalibug no? Pero sa Pilipinas pa daghang pilosopo nga moingon nga kinahanglan ta independent country. Kining 'members of the commonwealth' apil na sa ilang cultura nga mopailwom gyud sila sa hari or reyna sa England. Mao ni gitawag ug culture of tolerance.

WN

Sigbin,

Sa ubang mga tawo malibug ang kutaw nila ngano man nga ining panahona sa atong nasud magasigi man ta ug usob-usob sa atong pamaagi sa pang-gobierno? Sa akong paminaw daghan ug kapasikaran kana nga naa sa tawo nga maoy kinaingnan sa kagubot bahin sa atong pulitika. Ang una mao ning kahakog sa tawo sa gahom nga mao gyud ang kinaingnan bisan pa sa ubang gobierno sa tibook kalibutan. Tungod kay bata pa ta sa pamulitika [immature] puguso ta kaayo nga bisan ug nahuman na ang eleksyon gusto gihapon mo-agaw sa gahum. Maga rebolusyon! Naunsa na man ni?

WN

Grazie7y,

I have no explanation to you that there is no solid proof either that gas emmissions, a human activity, can not cause climate change. I am only relying on the conventional wisdom that climate change or global warming is caused by the weather condition of our planet. Aside from that any other reasoning saying that human activity causes climate change is an extremist view, in my opinion.

I'll give you an example that leftist view is wrong in their prediction. They said that because of global warming the ice cap in the North Pole will melt making the polar bears' health deteriorate and all the glacier from the mountain will flow down into the sea and inundate the Florida everglades, some parts of Europe and our very own 'sayantis' in the Philippines not to be outdone said low lying places like the city of Manila will be inundated by the rising sea. Joe Espiritu, a Jagna based writer also conformed to this doomsday scenario.

If you are aware now at this present moment the ice cap and the glacier in the North Pole is already melting. Full navigation of the sea between Canada and the North Pole is already open. A ship from England can reach Japan in two weeks through the North Sea compared when they sail through the Panama Canal which will take them months to reach Japan. Canada is asserting sovereignty of the newly open sea as well as the U.S. in the Bering Sea. Canadian scientists are glad that that the melting of the ice offered them a treasure trove of scientific data under the sea never been seen and studied by man since the history of the world. But they did not see that the health of the polar bears is deteriorating nor they say that low lying Canadian islands in their Northern Territory is inundated by a rising sea.

WN 

Lorenzo,

I agree to your opinion about the electoral college system of voting in America. If you have noticed and according to you; "The United States itself is having its own discourse in either ridding of the electoral college or maintaining it." So what happen? The result is still the American people maintained the electoral college system even if it is undemocratic. Why? Because they woke up to that system and it is good for them and still they called themselves as the 'champion of democracy' in the world. This lead to my hunch that, giving full democracy to the people is not politically and economically effective. Answering the point asked by Mr. Sigbin as; "What electoral reforms do you suggest?"

Of course not only democratic government has loopholes but every government in the world cannot escape its political infirmities. Democracy has a different meaning to different countries in the world. As what I said... even if America has the undemocratic system of voting we still revered them as the champion of democracy. England who inherited the tyranny of their kings and hide their brutal past is at ease to be called a democracy. Australia who grew up under the shadow of England called themselves democratic even if in Australia some laws are created by the police and decided also by the police. Mind you these nations I am mentioning are more than a hundred years old and still refrained their people to exercise their right to a full democracy.

The question raised here is, what electoral reforms does the Philippine needs?

Some people has the idea of reforming the electoral system by stopping the corruption in the Comelec, stopping vote buying, not voting actors and actresses into office, no to political dynasty and so forth. But all these things are part of growing up to be a fully democratic country. This cannot be avoided! But to avoid this is to restrict a little the democratic rights of the people. In America by restricting the people's full right to vote, the founding fathers of America wrote the provision in their constitution that an electoral college in every state should have the final verdict in an American presidential election. Therefore the popular vote is being screened by this electoral college. Kung pananglitan modaug didto sa state of New York by popular vote ang usa ka tawo nga mura ug kalidad lang ni Erap, the electoral college which composes intellectual Americans will screen the choice of the people.

Contrary to your opinion that a parliamentary system is too chaotic... I think you miss the point a lot. Pananglitan sa panahon ni Clinton sa White House. Clinton retrenched his WH staff because the opposition republicans in congress did not approve the government's budget. Today G.W. Bush Jr., a republican president has a hard time convincing the majority party in the senate who are democrats, to fund the war in Iraq making the winnability of the US troops put into a slow down. But still the government is intact because as what you said; 'The government of America is aged-time-tested system.' But if this happened in the Philippines the government won't last long. A coup d'etat will take over. And as what you said since we are still a young democracy we need guidance. Ug sa ato kinahanglan agakon una. Paluma-luma ka ug lakaw ikaw ra usa matumba ka.

But in a parliamentary system at the time of its foundation like the system in England and Australia is fully guided which right now it is a strong government with strong leadership. Technically members of parliament are not elected individually but they are elected by block voting. Meaning the people vote for a political party. You remember the election of 1978 in the Philippines? That was block voting. Once a party is put into parliament it is easy for legislation to pass because it is a caucus government. The majority party will decide in a caucus first before they will put a resolution in parliament for a debate with the opposition. Lutong macaw na daan ang balaod usa debatehan.

WN

Grazie7y,

Nia na pud ta... This is also the beauty of free expression bisan ug asa lang ta maghinagbo. Hehe... Aw! Bahin sa full democracy sa katawhan nga akong gisulti mao ni ang nia sa akong alimpatakan. In my obsrvation in the running of governments of nations [old and new] all over the world, not a single country develop economically because their people is enjoying full democracy. Sa mga bag-ong powerful nation karon like England and the U.S. it's not full democracy sa ilang electoral process.

WN

Grazie7y

Gas emmission is a human activity ang global warming is a weather phenomenon. I think there is no solid proof that gas emmission, a human activity, can cause the climate to change.

Grazie7y

I think other nations have nothing to do if who is sitting as president in our country. For them that is how our politics is run by the people and it's none of their business. The important thing is that the business of diplomacy should run smoothly. The question of legitimacy is within the bounds of the system of laws only in our country. I think there is no international law recognizing who is legal or illegal president of a country or nation.

Kadtong opinion sa mga huwes nga siya si Jose Velarde huna-huna lang to sa mga huwes. Boot pasabot nga they presume guilt on Erap kay wa man gyud silay prueba nga siya si Jose Velarde. Kadtong iyang pirma wa man pud to mosud sa bangko as a legal document kay diha na may pre-arrange meeting between Dichaves and the bank officials.

Kining moingon ka nga; "He was caught red handed", mura gud ni ug hisakpan si Estrada nga nakapatay kay pula ang iyang kamot sa dugo. Pero ang kamatooran nga ang iyang sala diha lang nato nabasa sa mantalaan. Mismo ang gasuwat nga reporter way ikapakitang prueba nga nakasala si Erap. Puro lang ni mga isyu naa sa newspaper. Kung ikaw anti Erap nga nagbasa, di mura ka ug gisigihan lang ug sugnod sa reporter sa mantalaan aron mosilaob ka. Kung way newspaper o reporter ba nga dapig ni Erap then.... This is what we call a 'trial by publicity'.

Kini unta anaay mga medyos nga naa nahisulat sa atong batakang balaod. Pero mismo ang atong mga political leaders wa man pud nila tahora ang gisuwat sa balaod. Ang akong boot pasabot ini kadtong impeachment trial. Kadtong impeachment trial dili kadto trial nga criminal kundi trial nga political kadto. A criminal trial is presided by a judge but an impeachment trial is presided by politicians. Mao nga ang korte mao ang Philippine senate. Di ba wa man ma -impeach si Erap kay mura man ug naka amgo si Joker Arroyo nga ma-acquit siya di nag walked ang mga anti Erap. Pero tan-awa! Ang atong newspapers ilang gipakita nga criminal trial ang impeachment proceedings. Way dapig ni Erap mao nga mura na hinoon ug political lynching ang nahitabo.

Grazie7y

Kini ako ra ning opinion bahin ining Kyoto Protocol. Kining Kyoto Protocol dili man ni unnecessary. Maayo ni kung pagkibra lang sa CO2 emmission sa kahanginan kay dautan man ni sa tawo pero mao ni ang ginhawa sa mga kahoy. Pero sa mga country nga wa mopirma ining Kyoto Protocol pananglit ang America ug Australia, tungod kay sa America ug Australia ang gigamit nila sa ilang industriya mao man ang coal, ug ang coal ining mga nasura, 'it's like oil in the Middle East'. Daghan kaayo sila ug supply ining coal mineral unya kuwaan sila ug panginabuhi ining mga leftists. I have not seen a modern coal power plant but according to some people who came from abroad, a modern coal power plant has no black, orange or white smoke. Kining England, Japan ug mga membro sa E.U. hingpirma sila tungod kay ang ilang industriya gasalig man sa oil ug nuclear power which are cleaner form of energy compared to coal. As far as I am concern Britain has the cleanest atmosphere all over the world. Ngano man? Tungod kay 75% sa power nila nuclear. Pero usa mga aktibong leftist activists all over the world naa sa Britain, pero dili makaprotesta sa ilang nuclear power.

Ang America ug Australia mopirma sa Kyoto Protocol kung ang China ug India kibrahan pud nila ang pag paaso nila ug CO2 sa kahanginan.

Hibaw ka kining mga leftist activists na hi-jack na nila ang pulitika sa kalibutan apil na ang United Nations. Para nako naay sakto naa puy sobra na. Pananglitan kanang dagat between Bohol and Mindanao ilang gibaoran ang mga mangingisda diha nga dili na managat ug sanga. Ilang gitagaan ug puhunan nga mag-negosyo catering to tourists or work as tourist guides. These leftist activists want to change the culture of the people by making them entrepreneurs overnight. I think that is impossible. One Bohol town  has a council ordinance prohibiting the fishing of sanga. Ang mahitabo ana nga illegal na ang pagpamilak ug sanga and that will lead to corruption because I believe the eating and fishing of sanga is unstoppable. Para makapanagat ug sanga 'lagyan' na pud ang mga pulitiko. 

Sa Britain naay mga primary teachers nga gusto nilang mag-show sa movie ni Al Gore 'Inconvenient Truth' ngadto sa mga bata. Gibabagan sila sa usa ka judge tungod kay dihay hingreklamo nga scientist nga kanang libro ug movie ni Al Gore naay 39 ka mga sayop bahin sa environment. Matud pa sa judge; 'His ideas of the environment is not yet proven conclusively.' Sakto ka! Sa iyang documentary mogawas na si Al Gore nga hipocrite kay mura ug iyang gusto magsakay na lang ug bisikleta ang tawo pero siya sa iyang private jet, which a thousand times pollutant.

WN

Dennis,

We have also pork in Philippine congress. It's the same system. My understanding is, pork is money budgetted by the administration to buy the opposition in congress. And in your analogy of our transport system superior to that of the US. is amazing. If it's true... Are the U.S. legislators sleeping on this? After the war we bought all those GI surplus jeeps to be used in our transport system and until now we are still using them without any sign of development. In your country they use buses and taxis for the comfort of the American commuters and you are telling us that your surplus jeeps we are using here in the Philippines today are a superior means of transportation. 

Ang sayop sa atong electoral system mao ning paghatag sa katawhan ug 'full democracy. Sa America technically dili ang number of votes sa mga tawo ang makahimong presidente kundi kanang gitawag ug 'electoral college'. Sa England ug Australia dili tanang tawo mopili ug prime minister kundi ang parliament. Sa France ang katawhan mopili ug presidente pero ang parliament mohimo sa balaod. The president of France can also intrduce laws to parliament. This is the type Marcos copied during Martial Law.

Tell the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Grazie7y

Padayon.... Ang kausaban nga nahimo sa mga Amerkano sa British system mao ang pagmugna sa gitawag ug "written constitution" kay ang British system way batakang balaod nga gisuwat. Ang ilang constitution unwritten. Unsa may boot pasabot ining unwritten constitution?  Ang boot pasabot ini nga traditional o namat-an. Kay kini ilang balaod nagagikan sa hari. Mga pung sa hari maoy balaod. Sa sinultihang inglis mao ni; 'The spoken words of the king is the law.' Kining mga balaora nga gisulti sa hari puro ni mga tulumanon sa usa ka lumolupyo.

Grazie7y

Kining 'global warming' wa'y labot ang tawo ini kay kita wa tay control sa kinaiyahan o weather. Kining global warming weather pattern ni nga hikaplagan sa mga weather scientists, pero kining mga leftist asakyan nila nga kuno nabuho ang atong 'ozone layer' nga galimin sa kalibutan. Ug imong pangutan-on ni sila kung naa ba'y ilang prueba... di makahatag ug tubag kundi magahatag lang ug tubag nga layo kaayo. [extremist opinion] Pareho pud ni Al Gore.. Sa nawa na siya sa pulitika gasuwat ug libro nga 'Inconvenient Truth'. Matud pa nga ang kalibutan kuno giliminan na ug CO2. Tinood ba ni? Ang CO2 dili man pollutant kay kinahanglan man ni sa mga kahoy.

Grazie7y

I'm glad you admit not to know all the circumstances that led to his conviction, pero kadtong Jose Velarde case mao to'y giingon nga diha'y sagul pulitika sa ilang paghusga. Ngano man??? Tungod kay wa gyud maprobar sa korte nga si Erap mao si Jose Velarde. Duha ka testigo nga taga bangko [EPCIB] diin ang account Jose Velarde misud, si Terisita Bagsit ug ang VP sa bangko nga si Romualdo Tang metestigo nga ang tag-iya sa Jose Velarde account mao si Jaime Dichaves ug kining account gibuksan pa niadtong 1998. Karon... kadtong dukomento nga gipirmahan ni Erap 'bugos ducoment' to kay di man siya ang tag-iya sa account. Matud pa sa testimonyo ni Estrada; 'Pakitang tao lang kuno para motoo si Gatchalian nga diha'y iyang confirmation sa account aron mobayad si Gatchalian nga wa'y langan. Si Gatchalian anang tampunga nangutang ni Jaime Dichaves ug kuarta'.

GMA never have been the legal president. She became the president by force. Kadtong kaguliyang sa EDSA maoy naka presidente niya. Illegal man to. Ang legal mao ang eleksyon. You said it! That... "we Pinoys should not make it a habit of putting a new president by ousting another president". Boot pasabot ini nga wa diay ka mahiuyon sa ouster of Estrada through the rule of the mob... Kinahanglan rule of law gyud, sakto ba? Kini pung imong giingon nga 'unfit to be a president', mo-uyon ko nimo ini kay pareha ta ug opinion o panghuna-huna bahin ini, pero kung gipili si Estrada sa 'majority of the Filipino people'... ang atong duhang opinion mopailawom gyud sa tingog sa katawhan. Mao nay gitawag ug demokrasya. Di ba?

Kining gisuwat ni Joe Espiritu matawag ni nga alarmist. Nang hadlok ni siya sa katawhan nga mo-unlod ang Bohol. Mo-unlod ang Bohol panahon sa pista kay manguli man ang mga Bol-anon sa kalain-laing dapit sa kalibutan. Pero sa tinood lang... Kining global warming tinood ni... Pero dili ang kinaingnan ang tawo. Kining ideyaha gikan man gud sa mga leftist nga pollution kuno ang kinaingnan.

Si Tabaco cannot be indicted even if the people can show hard evidence against him. Erap was convicted under abnormal circumstances. Sa kamatooran wala'y kasalanan si Estrada. Ang iyang conviction aron lang matawag si GMA nga legal president.

Parliament nga ni exist lang sa mga Monarchy countries..

Quote from: Happy on October 21, 2007, 09:22:03 PM
abi nako ning Parliament nga ni exist lang sa mga Monarchy countries..

Happy,

Naay imong ideya nga kining "Parliament nga ni exist lang sa mga Monarchy countries.."

Ug ako ang pasultihon, sa akong nahibaloan nga kining 'parliament' gimugna sa mga Inglis awat sa "Roman senate". Pero kalimtan usa nato tong 'Roman senate' kay mura'g layo na kaayo to. Atong sugdan sa 'British parliament'.

Una ang gitawag ug parliamentarians mao tong mga tao sa England nga misupak sa mga pamaagi sa ilang feudal lords. Kining mga feudal lords mao pud ning mga tao nga gisaligan sa hari sa pamaagi sa pagdumala gobierno sa mga tao. Mga loyalist sa hari. Ug karong panahona tawgon gud kini ug 'local government'. Tungod sa ilang pagsumpaki bahin sa pamaagi sa pang-gobierno nag rebolusyon ang mga 'common' tawo batok sa ilang feadal lords. There was a war between the parliamentarians against the king's loyalist.

Kining ilang kagubot moabot ug dugay nga panahon ni... Moabot pa kini sa panahon sa mga Cromwells mao ato lang hatagan ug 'shortcut'.

Sa katapusan sa ilang kagubot namugna karon sa hari ang 'parliament where the common people airs their greivances against the monarchy and they have the right to enact laws for their benefit'. They called the house in parliament the 'House of Commons'. They are elected by their constituents. Pero kadtong mga 'loyalists' sa hari nga mga 'feudal lords' gitagaan pud ug 'power' sa hari nga mga 'unelected members of parliament'. Mao ning 'House of Lords'. So... the parliament has two houses. Pero kining 'House of Lords' mao ni mobabag sa 'Commons' kung ang balaod nga ipasaka kontra sa kagustuhan sa hari. Mao pud ning 'House of Lords' ang gitawag ug 'privy council'. Sa ato pa ni Supreme Court' pero ang hari maoy chief justice. Diha makuha ang panultihon sa media nga; Judge, lawmaker and executioner rolled into one... the king.

Pero karon gi-usob ning sistemaha sa American and the French revolutions. 

Kining 'parliamentary form of government' ato na ning nakaplagan panahon ni Marcos. Usa niya ni gamita sa atong pang-gobierno, iya unang gimugna kadtong gitawag ug 'Interim National Assembly'. Interim meaning temporary. Ngano man? Boot pasabot ini nga si Marcos.... He did not ram through the throat of the Filipinos a parliamentary form of government which is still strange to the people. What he did... he let the late senators Emanuel Pelaez, Arturo Tolentino and Blas Ople studied different kind of parliaments all over the world. Ang nagustuhan nila mao tong French style with a strong president. Please take note that a parliamentary form of government has all the trimmings of a dictatorial government. All the changes that Marcos did was also changed when Cory Aquino came to power. Kining mga kukabildo bahin sa pag usob sa atong pang-gobierno nagpakita lang kini nga sakto diay si Marcos sa iyang gibuhat pag-usob sa atong gobierno?