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#29201
salamat.  dugay-dugay gyod hinoon nakong pangita ana, pero kahilakon kong gatan-aw.  naa man diay iring nga himoong hannibal lecter.
#29202
LGU Philippines / Re: Sila ba kaha ang angay botaran?
October 05, 2012, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: islander on October 05, 2012, 10:39:47 AM
Florentino Baguio, 50, a former overseas Filipino worker, said he wanted to correct the functions of legislators. He said he believed lawmakers should only write laws and should not be given money from government funds.

“I will scrap the pork barrel, because the lawmakers’ job is to legislate the budget, not to spend the budget,” Baguio said.

i dare anyone to question this logic.  come to think of it, why would legislators build roads and buildings and have their names and faces placed on those sites in the first place?
#29203
LGU Philippines / Re: Sila ba kaha ang angay botaran?
October 05, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
With Galang on the KBL ticket was 45-year-old businessman Leo Cadion of Pasay City who said he would enforce “change,” including rescinding the law on labor contractualization.

“We will remove the six-month contractual requirement for new workers,” Cadion said.

Asked if the Marcoses were supporting their campaign, Galang said there was no such arrangement. He said his religious organization had committed to fund his campaign.

Aside from Galang and Cadion, two other senatorial hopefuls earlier registered as KBL members.

They were 72-year-old lawyer Oliver Lozano and 61-year-old broadcast journalist Melchor Chavez. They filed their COCs on Monday.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/
#29204
LGU Philippines / Re: Sila ba kaha ang angay botaran?
October 05, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
Samson Alcantara, a 77-year-old lawyer from Abra province, is a nominee of the Social Justice Society, the same group that earlier pushed for the relocation of the oil depot of the big three oil companies in Pandacan, Manila.

Two men claiming to be from the Kilusang Bagong Lipunan (KBL), the party founded by the late strongman Ferdinand Marcos, also filed COCs to run for the Senate.

Virgilio Galang, a 52-year-old pastor and engineer, said his advocacy was the strengthening of the family’s foundation and faith in God.

“We should return to God, because faith in God is the foundation of national progress,” Galang said.

He said that if elected, he would teach the people to know God.
#29205
LGU Philippines / Re: Sila ba kaha ang angay botaran?
October 05, 2012, 10:39:47 AM
Another scene-stealer was Benjamin Handumon Jr., a 61-year-old retired government employee from Misamis Occidental province. He said he planned to give priority to the agriculture sector to ease poverty. He sang “My Way” when requested by reporters to sing.

Florentino Baguio, 50, a former overseas Filipino worker, said he wanted to correct the functions of legislators. He said he believed lawmakers should only write laws and should not be given money from government funds.

“I will scrap the pork barrel, because the lawmakers’ job is to legislate the budget, not to spend the budget,” Baguio said.
#29206
LGU Philippines / Sila ba kaha ang angay botaran?
October 05, 2012, 10:38:07 AM
puslan man nga himoon ra diay tang buing... unsa kahag kini na lang silay atong legislators?  the better for entertainment. ;D


Day 4 of COC filing: And the ‘talents’ keep coming…

By Tina G. Santos
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Friday, October 5th, 2012


The fourth day of the registration of candidates nearly turned into a talent show, with obscure senatorial aspirants providing entertainment as they filed their certificates of candidacy (COCs) in the Commission on Elections (Comelec).

Leonardo Bula, 41, a welder from Eastern Samar province, sang his platform to the tune of “Bikining Itim.”

Holding a copy of the Constitution, Bula said he would introduce legislation to eradicate laziness in government service.

Arsenio Dimaya, a 63-year-old retired instructor, did a song and dance number, interpreting Elvis Presley’s “It’s Now or Never” when asked by reporters what he would do during the campaign.
#29207
loll ug sir fd, sa inyo man diay ni nga news item, sa digos... but surely this must be happening everywhere.

mas maayo na lang ni kay sa ubang politicians nga adto mangulitawo ug votes sa iglesia ni cristo, and promising church members positions in government once they win.
#29208
In the 2010 election, Manogas said some politicians sought the guidance of clergymen like him.

“A couple of political aspirants approached me for guidance, but I told them it was they who would face the people and be accountable for what they would say and promise,” he said.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/
#29209
Hypocrisy

“You know we feel good when we start a day with prayers. It energizes us. I know most of our candidates here are prayerful,” Manogas said.

For candidates who only go to church when they file their COCs, although he said he knew of no one in the city, Manogas said the clergy did “not want to pass judgment.”

“We don’t judge their hypocrisy,” he said. “If they use the church [they will answer to God for it]. Besides the people know who are really prayerful and those who are not.”
#29210
Publicity

He said he could not tell if the politicians were really seeking divine guidance or just putting up a show to gain more support, especially from Catholics.

“I would not know if they were seeking God’s help or were just trying to [gain] publicity. We cannot judge them,” Villahermosa said.

In Zamboanga City, Msgr. Cris Manogas, officer in charge of the Archdiocese of Zamboanga and administrator of the Metropolitan Cathedral, said it was up to the candidates if they wanted to start their political careers by hearing Mass.
#29211
Fr. Santos Villahermosa, vicar general of the Diocese of Digos, said the Church could not stop politicians from entering churches or attending Mass before filing their COCs because there was nothing wrong with that.

Villahermosa said only the politicians knew their real intentions in attending Mass or entering churches.
#29212
The triennial explosion of zeal began Monday with the opening of the candidates’ registration for national and local offices in next year’s midterm elections.

In Digos City for example, politicians, including former Davao del Sur Rep. Claude Bautista, who is running for governor, heard Mass at the Mary Mediatrix Cathedral on Wednesday before proceeding to either the Comelec provincial office or its city election offices to file their COCs.
#29213
Priests see more politicians going to church as poll draws near

By Julie Alipala, Orlando Dinoy
Inquirer Mindanao
Friday, October 5th, 2012


DIGOS CITYâ€"Ignoring the Third Commandment, politicians go to church, claim to have received God’s mandate, and proceed to the Commission on Elections (Comelec) to file their certificates of candidacy (COCs).

The Church knows it’s hypocrisy, but it does not discourage the politicians. Besides it’s only once in three years that churches get SRO attendance during weekdays, never mind that the warm bodies are politicians and their followers who go to church only during election time.

#29214
aren't elected officials barred from holding 2 jobs?  by jove, acting in a teleserye is a job!
#29215
suwayig duol bisag kinsa ning atong mga senators, for example.  wa na lang sa atong bohol local politicians nga otro pod, on a lesser scale. 

unsaon pagka-servant nga gialirongan na daan ug mga alalay nga hait ug tinan-awan parehag langaw nga nakatungtong ug kabaw, like groupies to celebrities.  mas sayon pa duolon ang santo papa. 

believe me wa gyoy senador nga di manglisik ang arrogance.  ma-charming lang ug ahat kun naay television cameras.  ang dating, ang kulbahinam nga epekto sa ilang mga persona, lupig pay rock stars.  no wonder smooth ang change of careers ug mga artista ngadto sa politics (not the other way around; paartistaha kuno si dan lim, aber)... our politicians are not servants once they get elected.  they are showmen.
#29216
General Topic / Re: Happy Teacher's Day!!!
October 05, 2012, 09:49:46 AM
happy teachers day to all of you, shapers of destiny, you real heroes!

i once taught college (because i'm not qualified to teach small kids) part time for four years.  despite the meager pay, it was the most fulfilling job i ever held, more fulfilling than sitting on a desk the whole day poring over manuscripts.  if only i could do it again.
#29217
mas sayon pa nga ikaw na lay signiton, sir balong. ;D
#29218
i hope those ships aren't from china. ;D
#29219
goodness me.  so the law is all about him.  some other senators who are playing pontius pilate now admit to not having read it thoroughly anyway.  quo vadis, philippines?
#29220
Help & Support / Re: $100 PINASKOHAN CONTEST
October 04, 2012, 09:28:41 PM
bugs, na-shot down na tag tagsa ka numero!  upat na lay atong chance.  tan-awa ra god ngadto sa lain nga thread...

hinaot unta nga di na mi nimo kuhaan ug dugang numero, sir balong!  hahaha!  makalingaw man diay ni tuod.
#29221
Quote from: balong on October 04, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
in the first debate, romney beat obama at his own game. ang gisaligan gud ni obama, tam-is kaajo ang ijang dila. pero na lopig sija ni romney because romney was talking about facts, not falsehoods .
Quote from: balong on October 04, 2012, 08:16:08 PM
pareha ni silang duha si romney ug si obama. mixing facts and falsehoods.

nausab na man lagi ang estorya; abi nakog si romney way falsehoods...  ;) ;D 
#29222
Quote from: balong on October 04, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
kong gi balance pa nimo, nag patik unta pod ka sa side ni romney

gipatik na bitaw ni tubagbohol.com ang bahin ni romney nga daogan, mao nga agig balanse, gipatik pod nako ang laing angle, klaro?
#29223
maka-EB na gyod tang tanan anang panahona, sir fd.
#29224
10. It's got killer penalties.
If you get nabbed for online libel, you may spend a maximum of 12 years in prison and be fined a maximum of â,±1,000,000.  It's like a trick question: Would you rather shell out the hefty amount that would kill you or would you rather waste 12 years of your life behind bars, where, at some point, you'd wish you were dead?

http://www.spot.ph/
#29225
9. It won't play fair.
In an InterAksyon.com article, Atty. Mel Sta. Maria pointed out: "Section 1 of Article III of the Bill of Rights of the 1987 Constitution provides that 'no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, nor shall any person be denied the equal protection of the laws.'  However, under Section 19 of the Cybercrime Prevention Act, 'when a computer data is prima facie found to be in violation of the provisions of this Act, the Department of Justice (DOJ) shall issue an order to restrict or block access to such computer.'"  No court intervention is needed, the DOJ can go right ahead and compel you to stop publishing your posts.
#29226
8. It shits on wit.
In his InterAksyon opinion piece, Ramil Digal Gulle explained: "Interestingly, the Supreme Court of the Philippines has also ruled that even ironic, suggestive, or metaphorical language could be considered libelous.  You don’t have to directly call someone a liar and a thief to get sued for libel.  It’s enough to suggest it or state it sarcasticallyâ€"as long as you do so in a public manner like posting on the Internet."  (We're taking this opportunity to ask our followers, to please visit us in jail if they have the time or if they're not already in jail with us.)
#29227
7. It's prudish.
Under the Cybercrime Prevention Act, cybersex is a crime.  We agree that it is soâ€"when it's a profit-oriented venture taking advantage of hapless individuals such as minors or those who have been directly or indirectly coerced into the seedy industry.  The law defines cybersex thus: "The willful engagement, maintenance, control, or operation, directly or indirectly, of any lascivious exhibition of sexual organs or sexual activity, with the aid of a computer system, for favor or consideration."  However, what if cybersex is done by two consenting adults?  If a woman sends a picture of herself eating ice cream in a suggestive manner to her boyfriend, will she be stoned to death or sent to jail if someone rats her out?
#29228
6. It won't like you liking what it doesn't like.
Those who play a part in unwittingly or willfully encouraging the spread of libelous content shall be charged for abetting libel.  That means the act of clicking the "Like" button of Facebook or retweeting posts on Twitter may be tagged as unlawful as well.  Time to "unlike" those anti-establishment Facebook pages and unfollow those fake Twitter accounts spoofing persons in power.
#29229
5. It's outdated.
An InterAksyon.com article, citing Human Rights Watch (HRW) Asia, noted: "The Philippines' libel law, enacted during the American colonial period and intended mainly to stifle dissent, continues to consider the offense a criminal act.  Media organizations contend the law on libel has most often been used by people in power to harass journalists and muzzle critical reportage."
#29230
4. It's a time traveler.
In an InterAksyon.com article written by Patrick Villavicencio, University of the Philippines College of Law Professor Atty. JJ Disini said that under the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 the so-called "victims" and their lawyers "could argue in court that old libelous posts [that are] still live today can be charged with online libel."  The report further quoted Disini, who explained, "Kasi pwede nilang sabihin na (Because it could mean) by keeping it there today, you’re still publishing it now.  So if you’re still publishing it after the law took effect, then you’re liable for its publication today."  So, that scathing post about your ex that you put up way back in 2004?  You could end up going to jail for that.  It's an I Know What You Posted Several Summers Ago scenario.
#29231
3. It's so "special" that it hurts. 
In an InterAksyon.com article, News5 resource person Atty. Mel Sta. Mariaâ€"who teachers at the Ateneo de Manila University School of Lawâ€"pointed out that the Cybercrime Prevention Act is tagged as a mala prohibita law.   Sta. Maria explained: "It is an accepted legal rule that offenses under special laws are considered mala prohibita as distinguished from mala in se.  [For mala in se], there must be a criminal mind to be convicted.  In murder, theft, robbery and other offenses punished by our Revised Penal Code, for example, intention to do wrong is an essential element.  [For mala prohibita], there need not be a criminal mind.  The mere perpetuation of the prohibited act is enough."  So, even if you're kidding around by using somebody's name as a verb or noun to signify not-too-admirable acts (Noynoying, Sottomy, etc), you could get arrested.
#29232
2. It champions the dead by asking the living to shut up.
Under the Cybercrime Prevention Act, you would also be committing a crime if you "blacken the memory of one who is dead."  So, what happens if the person who died was a criminal who molested kids, backed a law that resulted in thousands of people being tortured, or killed journalistsâ€"and you're documenting his or her evil deeds for a history book?  Out of being nice, do you erase the "bad parts" of his or her life?  The law says, if you can't say anything good, then you better not say anything at all.  That's great for petty issues but not when we're talking about people who use their position to take advantage of defenseless individuals.
#29233
Sure, the law does have some good points, but its "nasty parts" can't be ignored.  With the help of InterAksyon.com's series of articles about the Cybercrime Prevention Actâ€"as well as news clips from GMA-7, ABS-CBN, and ANCâ€"we have listed 10 of the law's scariest parts:

1. It only wants to hear nice things.
If you're a law-abiding citizen who happens to use blogs, Facebook, and Twitter to let the world know about your beef against, say, certain elected officials who are far from being geniusesâ€"then you've been living a lie.  Under the Cybercrime Prevention Act, you're just like any other cybercriminal.  Your tweet about the barangay captain who loves San Miguel more than his job?  That could be classified as libel, which is defined in the Revised Penal Code as "the public and malicious imputation of a crime, or of a vice or defect, real or imaginary, or any act, omission, condition, status, or circumstance tending to cause the dishonor, discredit, or contempt of a natural or juridical person..."  Take note of the part where it says "real or imaginary."  You're damned if you're lying and you're damned if you're telling the truth.
#29234
sayang ning particular article that i'm posting in this thread kay unidentified ang author.  it's rather witty...
#29235
For the record, the following senators voted to pass the law:

1.   Sen. Tito Sotto
2.   Sen. Bong Revilla
3.   Sen. Manny Villar
4.   Sen. Lito Lapid
5.   Sen. Koko Pimentel
6.   Sen. Jinggoy Estrada
7.   Sen. Loren Legarda
8.   Sen. Chiz Escudero
9.   Sen. Ping Lacson
10.  Sen. Gringo Honasan
11.  Sen. Pia Cayetano
12.  Sen. Bongbong Marcos
13.  Sen. Ralph Recto
#29236
Senator Tito Sotto proudly owned up to the fact that he was responsible for inserting the libel clause into the law.  Senator Chiz Escudero called the insertion a "mistake" and has said that he'll move to have the law repealed.  Meanwhile, Senator TG Guingona (along with the other senators who didn't back the law) continues to be against the law.  For its part, Malacañang said President Noynoy Aquino thoroughly reviewed the law before he affixed his signature to itâ€"a fact which strikes some people as strange.  There are those who have remarked that if P-Noy's father, Ninoy, was still around, he probably be among those protesting what has come to be called as "cyber martial law."
#29237
Digital Martial Law: 10 Scary Things About the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012

(SPOT.ph) Cyberspace has become the platform of the best and worst things that people can come up with when they're online.  While it's a hotbed of game-changing ideas and artistic expression, it has also turned into a breeding ground for trolls and cyberthugs.  That being said, well-meaning Pinoy lawmakers thought it best to pass Republic Act No. 10175 or The Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012.  But, wait!  There's a catch.  This very same law that professes to protect us from those who would do us wrong via digital means also threatens to take away our freedom to say what we want.
#29238
very witty.  i'm beginning to enjoy all the reads sa internet highway; kandaiyag reactions, mora na hinoon ug mga basang sisiw na walang kuko ang mga legislators.  nagkapuliki pa gyod ug do a pontius pilate.  international naman diay ang support sa anti-cybercrime law movement.
#29239
Quote from: bugsay on October 04, 2012, 12:38:24 PM
done...



ulo lagi ni sa yellow nga wati nga avatar nimo sa una... ;D
#29240
interpretation lang na nga makapriso ang ipang-post sa facebook nga makadaot sa uban kintahay, sama pananglit nga naay ni-post nga nag-ingon nga si polana morag nawong ug kabajo.  wa makatulog si polana kay ang iyang pagtoo all along mora siyag nawong ug baktin, nganong ahat man nga na-kabajo.  unya gikopya ni susana ug iyang gi-post for her friends.  so silang tanan sad-an, gawas of course ni kabajo, etc.

for a full text of the new law, kun naa kay oras, here's the link: http://tubagbohol.mikeligalig.com/index.php?topic=55464.0

OT: naa na ka sa cabawan, fr chic?  have a great vacation!  moabot ba nimo ang ipadala kun i-address sa cabawan, tagbilaran city?  or is it better to address it to the tagbilaran diocese c/o brod pito lungay?
#29241
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
October 04, 2012, 07:29:51 PM
that's good enough uy.  morag bag-ong relihiyon nga gitukod. ;D
#29242
Quote from: balong on October 04, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
in the first debate, romney beat obama at his own game. ang gisaligan gud ni obama, tam-is kaajo ang ijang dila. pero na lopig sija ni romney because romney was talking about facts, not falsehoods .
Quote from: islander on October 04, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Romney delivered several zingers as expected, but none were home runs. His skill is in mixing facts and falsehoods, and speaking in such rapid-fire fashion that Obama appeared flummoxed much of the time.

kinsa kahay sakto ninyong duha, ikaw o ang writer nga akong gi-quote...  ;)

nidaog diay sa pinaspasay sa baba. ;D
#29243
unsaon god tawon nako pagka-diehard ni obama nga di man tawon ko botante.  gi-balance ra nako ang mga analysis sa observers.  ikaw ang diehard ni romney nga diesoft kang obama no? ;D
#29244
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
October 04, 2012, 06:45:17 PM
mao na kana ang imong bag-ong avatar in protest against the cybercrime law, piks?  unsa man ipasabot ana?  gi-crucify na ang pinas?
#29245
Romney delivered several zingers as expected, but none were home runs. His skill is in mixing facts and falsehoods, and speaking in such rapid-fire fashion that Obama appeared flummoxed much of the time. Even so, Romney did little Wednesday night to cure his biggest problem, a failure to create a bond of trust with the American people. His glib, even slick performance may score with debate coaches but the American people may not be similarly wowed.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/
#29246
Romney won on style and debating points, filling the screen more substantially and confidently. But Obama, for those who paid attention to what he said, stuck more closely to the facts, refuting Romney’s gauzy promises about cutting tax rates without cutting tax revenue, repealing Obamacare while keeping the parts he likes, and doing away with the Dodd-Frank financial reform while accusing Obama of coddling the banks.

    His skill is in mixing facts and falsehoods, and speaking in such rapid-fire fashion that Obama appeared flummoxed much of the time.

Lehrer did a good job following up, and he nabbed Romney on more than one occasion for a glib assertion that didn’t line up with the facts. When Romney lit into Obama for failing to adopt the deficit-cutting recommendations of the Simpson-Bowles commission, Lehrer asked if Romney supported Simpson-Bowles. “I have my own plan,” Romney said, quickly skittering away.
#29247
He didn’t let up for the entire 90 minutes, while Obama seemed curiously passive, never mentioning the 47 percent tape that has hampered Romney’s campaign, and failing for most of the evening to drive points in a concise way, the professorial flaw the three days of debate camp was supposed to correct.

The speaking time clock CNN posted on the bottom of the screen showed Obama with an edge over Romney in airtime, but if there were a word count, Romney would surely come out ahead. And if the debate was viewed through the facial expressions shown on camera, Romney looked pretty happy with himself while Obama looked peeved and frustrated, remembering only occasionally to flash a smile.
#29248
He didn’t let up for the entire 90 minutes, while Obama seemed curiously passive, never mentioning the 47 percent tape that has hampered Romney’s campaign, and failing for most of the evening to drive points in a concise way, the professorial flaw the three days of debate camp was supposed to correct.

The speaking time clock CNN posted on the bottom of the screen showed Obama with an edge over Romney in airtime, but if there were a word count, Romney would surely come out ahead. And if the debate was viewed through the facial expressions shown on camera, Romney looked pretty happy with himself while Obama looked peeved and frustrated, remembering only occasionally to flash a smile.
#29249
Mitt Romney’s Glib Performance Won the Debate, but What About Voters?

by Eleanor Clift Oct 3, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

Romney was on a roll, and Obama seemed curiously passive. But while the former governor won the Denver debate on style, his slick performance may not have wowed voters who don’t trust him, says Eleanor Clift.

Mitt Romney was fired up and ready to go Wednesday in Denver, turning in a performance that exceeded expectations and had President Obama on the defensive for much of the night. “It’s fun, isn’t it,” Romney exclaimed when moderator Jim Lehrer noted the candidates had gone over the time limit on the first segmentâ€"and no wonder. Romney was on a roll.

#29250
Philippine Business News / Re: Storms, Typhoons
October 04, 2012, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: taga tigbao on October 04, 2012, 04:09:20 PM
Ahahahaha. Maajog Muntinlupa Admin, unja ug Mandaluyong?

Hinoon dili pud ko angay maguow kay magkita man jud mi adto sa mga kolokoys dires TB.

Daghang salamat sa pagtagad. ;D

i won't mind a general TB EB in mandaluyong. ;D
#29251

(second appearance in tb)
#29252
senators up for reelection in 2013 (they voted yes to the cybercrime law):

Liberal/Nacionalista Party:
Alan Peter Cayetano
Aquilino Pimentel III
Antonio Trillanes IV


Also on the slate of the Liberal/Nacionalista Party; familiar names, but they're not at the senate now (shades of dynasty, but what else is new?):
Juan Edgardo Angara, son of Cybercrime Law author
Cynthia Villar, wife of Sen. Manuel Villar

UNA party:
Gregorio Honasan II

straddling more than one party (LP/NP-UNA; Independent):
Loren Legarda
Francis Escudero
#29253
yes or no (where were they)?


Sen. Francis Pangilinan
(we must have heard of his wife)

Senator Francis Pangilinan clarified that he did not vote in favor of the controversial Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 contrary to earlier  reports of INQUIRER.net. (http://technology.inquirer.net/)



Sen. Joker Arroyo
   

Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano    


Sen. Franklin Drilon    

   
Sen. Sergio Osmeña III    
   

Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago    


Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV    

(n.b., senators juan ponce enrile and edgardo angara need not vote.)
#29254
the one and only no vote


Sen. Teofisto Guingona III
(we must have heard of his father)

...Guingona said he would continue to join the cause of groups and Internet users critical of the newly passed law and ask the SC to issue a TRO and to finally repeal some vague and oppressive provisions of the Cybercrime Act.

"Let me say this once again, the state has no right to gag its citizens and convict them for expressing their thoughts.  The Philippines is a democratic country.  The Filipinos should never be left to cower in the sidelines -their thoughts and voices should not be shackled by fear and intimidation.  The people should not be afraid of its own government," Guingona said. (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/)
#29255
other yes votes


Sen. Aquilino Pimentel III
(we must have heard of his father and his wife)

-no statement covered by the radar-




Sen. Ralph Recto
(we must know his Batangas governor wife)

-no statement on the radar, so far-




Sen. Ramon Revilla Jr.
(we know his father but not all his 80+ siblings)

-heard or read nothing yet-




Sen. Manuel Villar Jr.
(poor kuno; wife's running for senator)

-no words, no, nothing in the cosmos-




Sen. Lito Lapid
(his wife once had too many dollars with her)

-as expected, should be nothing-




Sen. Loren Legarda
(perennial philippine election candidate;
we must have heard of her 2 ex-husbands)

-why expect; this perennial candidate is known to perennially play it safe-
#29256
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
October 04, 2012, 01:18:50 PM
hello, ric.  mora lagi kag si harry potter nga nawad-an ug antiyohos.  welcome! 
#29257
yes vote


Sen. Jose Estrada
(familiar father and original mother;
half-brother is senatorial candidate in 2013)

Senators Francis Escudero, Gregorio Honasan II and Jinggoy Estrada have already filed bills seeking to decriminalize libel, which has stiffer penalties under the anti-cybercrime law. Taking this route, however, will eat up a lot of time, having to go through the committee hearings and debates in both houses of Congress, said Guingona. (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/)

so far, i couldn't catch any statement of his on the cybercrime law.
#29258
Philippine Business News / Re: Storms, Typhoons
October 04, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
salamat, bai tigs.  di man kaha ta mapriso ani? ;D
#29259
di na ko kasulti, di pa gyod makakita. :-X
#29260
yes vote


Sen. Gregorio "Gringo" Honasan II
(he used to 'clap his hands and coup and coup/
that is why we love him so...')

Honasan stood by his decision to support the passage of the measure.

And while he respects the opinion of others, especially those opposing the law, Honasan appealed on the public to stay calm and to listen to reason.

“Ang aking apila ay maging mahinahon tayo dito (My appeal is for us to be calm). Let’s listen to reason. Huwag na basta ayaw natin, galit tayo. Bakit? Narinig na ba natin lahat ng panig? (Let’s not just say we don’t want this, we are angry. Why? Have we listened to all sides?),” he said in a television interview.

Honasan lamented that "unadulterated hatred” seemed to have prevailed and the attacks were getting personal at those who voted for the bill.

“Let’s not allow ourselves to be used by partisan political leaders… Let’s be reasonable, let’s reflect and pray for enlightenment so we can deal with this very soberly, very peacefully and very dispassionately because all of us will be affected,” he added. (http://technology.inquirer.net/)
#29261
yes vote


Sen. Panfilo Lacson
(former fugitive; his son is running for cavite vice-governor)

“As long as they don’t resort to violations of law in expressing their hatred against those who voted for the passage of the cybercrime act, they should be treated as simply exercising their rights,” Lacson said in a separate text message. (http://technology.inquirer.net/)
#29262
the source article at http://durianpost.wordpress.com/ (uy, sa inyo man ni kay durian god) is entitled Senators play Pontius Pilate on Cybercrime Prevention Act.  you got it, dabawenya.  manghimasa na lang ta kay nanghunaw man sila.
#29263
yes vote


Sen. Pia Cayetano
(sister of Sen. Allan Peter Cayetano)

For her part, Senator Pia Cayetano was forced to admit on her Twitter account that “…when amendment was made (to the bill), no one really noticed, not media, not netizens and sadly not me…” (http://getrealphilippines.com/)

***

Also saying that she will file an amendment is Sen. Pia Cayetano, who admitted that no one blocked the libel provisions when they were brought to the floor.

“It was impeachment period, when Cybercrime Bill was called, I reviewed portion on child porn, which is my area of responsibility,” Cayetano said via her Twitter account Tuesday.

She added that she would have blocked the libel provision if she “had seen seen it or if someone pointed it out.”

“Sadly we cannot catch every provision all the time,”
she tweeted. (http://durianpost.wordpress.com/)
#29264
di ni ako.  maglabada diay gihapon ko.  sour grapes; at least safe pa ko.
#29265
it might be difficult to bring her to court for lewd acts.  isn't that cher? ;D
#29266

[NB: Above post was publicly-accessible at the time it was captured 11:45am 04 Oct 2012 AEST.]

http://getrealphilippines.com/
#29267
Senator Sotto has been one of the strongest proponents of inclusion of the libel provisions in RA 10175 and has been accused of sneakily inserting the libel clauses into the bill just before it was subject to the Senate vote (an allegation Sotto denies).  Philippine lawmakers have started to cave under pressure from mounting protests among Filipinos and attention attracted from the foreign media over the new law and have started distancing themselves from the imbroglio.  President Benigno Simeon “BS” Aquino III himself who had signed the bill into the law has been silent on the matter preferring instead to let his spokespersons release sketchy statements to the public every now and then.

http://getrealphilippines.com/
#29268
 The screencap of these messages is currently making the rounds on Facebook.

As of this writing (11:50am 04 Oct 2012 Australian Eastern Standard Time), Arcega had set the image of the screencap to “Private” on Facebook where he presumably had uploaded it.  In a subsequent update by Arcega on his Facebook profile, he wrote: “I set the screencaps to private.  I figure enough people know, so my protection (or at least if something happens, knowledge of pertinent info) is assured.  Again, sobriety and reason guys. Let’s not be bullies ourselves.  Yun lang.  Salamat.  ['That's all. Thank you']”
#29269
GMA News reports…

    [Bacosa] sent a private message to a certain Adrian Arcega, saying: “Pare dahan dahan lang sa pambabastos mo sa uncle ko ha? kilala kita. ka batch ka ng utol ko!! kung cyber bully ka, ako BULLY sa real world at alam nyo yan.” [Translation: "Dude, watch your back with regard to your rude remarks about my uncle, ok? I know you. You are in the school batch of my sibling!! If you are a cyber-bully, I am a BULLY in the real world and you all know that."]

    Arcega replied: “How ‘exactly’ ako nambastos? ['How exactly was I rude?'] Don’t forget, I (and the rest of the people) am your uncle’s boss. Whether I’m right or wrong, it comes with the territory.”
   
#29270
First test of Ph anti-cybercrime law may involve Tito Sotto kin

October 4, 2012
by benign0
http://getrealphilippines.com/


It may be an ironic first test of the Philippines’ newly-minted Republic Act 10175 or the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012.  News broke this morning of what could be the first high-profile incidence of cyber-bullying over social networking giant Facebook since RA 10175 came into effect.  The incident involved a nephew of embattled Philippine Senator Vicente “Tito” Sotto III, Stephen Michael Gamboa Bacosa who allegedly sent a seemingly threatening private message to musician and television show director Adrian Arcega.
#29271
nothing.  for her, anyway.  she's untouchable, to begin with.  and with all her money and connections, who would dare go to court for whatever she says on her twitter?  note: she's the wife of senator kiko pangilinan and niece (in-law; aunt helen gamboa is the wife of) senator tito sotto.
#29272
pahuway usa ko.  going somewhere (to have a look-see on those helpless kittens at the third floor to coordinate with building security and maintenance on how to save them.  i've become their pest, hehe, but i'm no cybercriminal).  be back in 30 minutes with more for this thread.
#29273
yes vote


Sen. Ferdinand Marcos Jr.
(familiar parents)

"The cyber crime bill has been passed into law and that is it for now. The committee report that I signed did not contain the libel clause," Marcos said.

However, Senate records showed that on third and final reading January 30, 2012, Marcos signed Angara's version of the bill that was used in the final version approved by the bicameral committee and sent to President Benigno Aquino for signing.

***
"This is no time to make excuses nor to blame anyone for what I cannot agree to with regards the libel clause. Having said that, I would rather be accused of a lapse in supervision than not do anything to correct it," Marcos said.

***

Marcos said RA 10175's "libel clause must be amended and free speech upheld."

"I will file a bill to that effect and support all efforts made in the same direction," he added.

Marcos did not mention other controversial provisions of the law, including warrantless monitoring of users' data and takedown of websites without court review, which are now being questioned before the Supreme Court for being unconstitutional. (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/)
#29274
maybe i'll have a few more than your planned number, but they'll be very few, indeed.
#29275
yes vote


Sen. Chiz Escudero
(senatorial candidate in the coming elections)

Speaking of mistakes, another Senator did not seem to use his head when he voted for the passing of the Cybercrime law in Congress. Senator Francis “Chiz” Escudero has reportedly admitted that “it was a “personal oversight” that the clause including libel among the crimes punishable under the new law was inserted in the committee report when the Senate voted for its passage”. One has to ask, how in the world could something like an entire section of a law he voted for slip under his radar? It’s really amazing how the country’s public servants make a mockery out of the Constitution. It’s like they don’t even deliberate on these things before voting.

He said the provision contradicts his position as a principal author of Senate Bill 2162, which seeks to decriminalize libel on the grounds that “a strong media could give great service to the Filipino people in providing an effective mechanism of complete and fearless transparency over the excesses of government in the exercise of its powers and prerogatives.” (http://getrealphilippines.com/)
#29276
nanghunaw na si angara, as can be gleaned.  nanghunaw pod si sotto in the beginning.  unsaon, di man gyod malimpyo tungod kay recorded man.
#29277
the alleged inserter of the questionable provision


Sen. Vicente Sotto III
(Senate Majority Floor Leader)

Sotto has denied inserting the libel clause and said he only "suggested" that it be included in the legislation. (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/10/03/12/marcos-joins-other-senators-disowning-cybercrime-libel)

***

Sotto said he pushed for the inclusion of libel on Republic Act No. 10175’s list of computer crimes. But he denied that he did so in retaliation for the “cyberbullying” he received after his turno en contra in August against the reproductive health bill.

“That was my proposal but there was never an insertion. It was done on the floor,” Sotto told the Philippine Daily Inquirer in a telephone interview.

The Senate Journal for Jan. 24 showed that Sen. Edgardo Angara, sponsor of Senate Bill No. 2796, accepted Sotto’s proposal and the Senate approved libel as one of the punishable acts under the cybercrime measure. (http://technology.inquirer.net/17718/sotto-admits-he-proposed-online-libel-provision)
#29278
hehe, i'm now comparing the before-and-after scenarios.  sickening.
#29279
after the fact, or maybe because elections are nigh? :-X

the author


Sen Edgardo Angara
(his son is running for senator in the coming elections)

The author and sponsor of the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 said he will file a bill to amend his own law.

As the law takes effect on Wednesday, October 3, Sen Edgardo Angara defended the need for the law but also admitted that it has flaws.

“Put this law in perspective. We are much better off with a law, a [cybercrime] law in operation rather than a cyberspace without one, otherwise, we will be operating in a large, large universe without rules …. But I concede there may have been some omissions, not deliberate, because the cybercrime law is not the product of one, of a single mind.”

“Not all the laws that we pass are perfect. At least in this case we are responsive,” Angara told reporters.

***

“I didn’t put this particular provision,” Angara said. “I’m trying to trace in the record who introduced this kind of provision.” (http://www.rappler.com/)
#29281
the horror!  the horror!
#29282
#29283
#29284
#29285
na hala, moambit lang ko sa inyong bawon tanan, ha?  magdala lang kog tubig, libro, ug tualya.
#29286
Quote from: Lollapalooza on October 03, 2012, 06:46:04 PM

naa man intawn iring magdulog nako... anyway, dili kaayo ko mahadlok kung ingon ani... lahi akong kahadlukan... Si Sir Hubs kahibaw unsa akong kahadlokan... hehehe

morag nakabasa pod ko ato... mahadlok kag tuko, right?  ayaw kahadlok ni pikoy.  sure ko di na siya nawong ug tuko. ;D
#29287
Quote from: Lollapalooza on October 03, 2012, 06:32:24 PM
Salamat Ma'am Isles kay gi expound gyud nimo ni nga article... ^____^

most welcome, loll.  na-shoot down ni his excellency ambassador hubag tong article nga akong gi-post.  sa akong banabana, mas katuhoan ang iyaha kay mas recent.  gihimo lang sa uban nga zombies pero mummies ra diay.
#29288
puwes, ang nabitin intawon nga mambabasa maoy angay bayran ani.  kun di, aw, madaot ang tigsulat sa cybercrime law.
#29289
as of today, 03 october 2012, there are already eight ( 8 ) petitions filed at the supreme court against republic act 10175, otherwise known as the cybercrime prevention law.

Petition 1:    A group of media organizations, led by Alab ng Mamahayag (ALAM)

Petition 2:    Filed by Louis Biraogo

Petition 3:    A group of technology law experts led by JJ Disini of the University of the Philippines-College of Law

Petition 4:    Senator Teofisto Guingona III, the lone senator who objected to the Cybercrime measure during its third and final reading at the Senate

Petition 5:    Filed by Davao-based broadcaster Alex Adonis, several journalists and bloggers, as well as a group of lawyers led by Harry Roque Jr.

Petition 6:    Filed by Kabataan party-list Rep. Raymond Palatino

Petition 7:    A group led by national artist Bienvenido Lumbera

Petition 8:    Ateneo de Manila University (ADMU) lawyers
#29290
PLF, describing itself as a “transnational global cyber insurgency” on its Twitter account, said it will also attack 20 key websites under their Operation Philippines on Wednesday, including the website of Senator Vicente Sotto III, who made the last-minute inclusion of the provision on online libel into the anti-cybercrime bill before it was signed into law last September 12.

Targeted websites include the Bureau of Internal Revenue, Department of Finance's Bureau of Customs, National Telecommunications Commission, Department of Health and its Anti-Smoking site, Maritime Industry Authority, Department of Interior and Local Government, Philippine Information Agency, Pilipinas Anti-Piracy Team, Metro Manila Development Authority, private energy company Meralco and the Department of Justice, in charge of the cybercrime act's implementation.

Another allied hacking group PrimeX also defaced the Philippine National Police (PNP) website on Tuesday. As of posting time, PNP has not yet successfully restored their website.

http://www.philstar.com/

#29291
“We demand for a revision of the said bill for the betterment of the Filipino citizens. Until this demand is met, you can expect to face massive protests on the ground - and continued cyber-attacks on all of your web assets,” the group said in a statement.

Anonymous also put up web-based software which Internet users can visit to blast error specifically attacks on President Benigno Aquino III’s website of (president.gov.ph), which was brought down at 7:53 a.m.

The public hacking software aimed to send the message “F*** The Cyber Crime Law” and could accommodate 5,000 requests per second.

#29292
Gov't sites' hacking marks cyber law implementation

By Camille Diola
The Philippine Star
October 03, 2012


MANILA, Philippines â€" Attacks on key government websites marked the first hours of the full implementation of the Cybercrime Prevention Act as a global alliance of hacktivists launched Operation Philippines (#opPhilippines) on Wednesday.

Hacking group Anonymous Philippines, which attacked over a dozen government websites in the past weeks, led the operation to cripple state-owned Internet properties in protest against the new law.

Anonymous Philippines and foreign members forming the hacking community People’s Liberation Front (PLF) hit the websites of The Official Gazette, the House of Representatives, National Bureau of Investigation, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas, and the Senate which they successfully crippled one by one starting at 1:44 a.m. on Wednesday.
#29293
sinabing tingni, di tingni.  naunsa ba, wa man diha ang angay tingnan.
#29294
no comment.  i might end up in jail.
#29295
in the oct 1 news item, sotto denied his role in the cybercrime law.  in a news item today, he's singing a different tune.

Rhian Ramos case started online libel clause: Sotto

By David Dizon
ABS-CBNnews.com
10/03/2012


MANILA, Philippines â€" Sen. Vicente “Tito” Sotto III on Wednesday admitted he asked for the inclusion of an online libel clause in the new Anti-Cybercrime Law due to online sex scandals and intense cyberbullying against celebrities.

Speaking to radio dzMM, Sotto said he asked the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Edgardo Angara, to include a provision on online libel last December due to various scandals involving actresses Rhian Ramos, Janelle Manahan, Maricar Reyes and Katrina Halili.

“Nagkaroon ng malaking problem yung kabilang istasyon. Kung natatandaan niyo yung tungkol kay Rhian Ramos. Yung sa YouTube may mga lumabas. Kine-claim nitong si DJ Mo di raw galing sa kanya meron daw nag-upload at kung ano-anong kasiraan yung inabot ni Rhian Ramos. Abortion, ganyan. Nakarating pa sa Facebook yun at sa Twitter,” he said.

more at http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/10/03/12/rhian-ramos-case-started-online-libel-clause-sotto
#29296
LGU Philippines / Re: Plagiarist Sotto and Internet Law
October 03, 2012, 03:21:53 PM
rightly so.  if i said this guy has no brains, will i be going to jail?
#29297
ang sumpay sa til-as ug tambis, asa na man? ???
#29298
Love Talk / Re: "Pinoy Pick UP Lines"
October 03, 2012, 02:59:42 PM
whew!  it looks like nakabantay dayon si tubagbohol.com kay napapas na man ang tanang posts ni gagu uggugg.
#29299
Love Talk / Re: "Pinoy Pick UP Lines"
October 03, 2012, 02:57:44 PM
OT, di ni pick-up line... ang posts ni uggugg nga nag-flood ug french sa lain-lain nga boards kay di na lagi kasudlan.  igo ra tang nakatubag ug kausa, unya wa na.  di ba kaha madaot ning website tungod kay atong natubag ning alien?  ignoy baya kog internet.  hinaot makit-an dayon ni si uggugg ni webmaster.  ni-try kog papas, di ko kapapas kay di man gani ko kasulod...
#29300
gapataas kog estorya just to share one thing: a teacher's effect on his students, especially young learners, can mark them for life.