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Quote from: islander on February 22, 2011, 01:33:05 AM
f--k off, lorenz.  so you stick to the point, so now you lecture me about cebu and why i shouldn't have this "ingrata-like" attitude because it's the bpo center?  it looks like you were the one insulted for qualifying as a call center agent.  why, you don't want to be at the center of the bpo center even as you are so sure that angelo reyes pocketed 50 million?  f--k off, lorenz.

now now now. calm you temper, dahlin. no need for savage language. tsk tsk.

no grace under pressure. i see. 

Beautiful Song, Michael.

 

humor is like love diay, nong?

what a cute simile.

Good to read this.

Quote from: chicogon on February 22, 2011, 02:35:07 AM
Oh nooooooo.... please nooooooooooo. I just finished writing a song with this title. I didn't realize there's already a song with this title. Oh well...

its by greenday, Fr. Roel.

bugnaw no?

you all look very good. this is in LA, i take it?

surely with your company, nong.

Quote from: islander on February 22, 2011, 01:14:03 AM

show me any post of mine that claims i want a new philippines.  (don't put words into my nostrils!)

so, you are a supporter of the status quo? tsk tsk. corruption is okay with you, considering the fact that you are defending Reyes.
not once did you even show disgust towards his actions, his corruption.

ay, ka luod!

Quote from: islander on February 22, 2011, 12:38:12 AM

after your curriculum vitae presentation, i daresay you now qualify as a call center agent in cebu. 

Oh, how arrogant of you. And you think you are higher than a call center agent, because you are a house wife? lol.

Isles, your comments are detractive, clearly, and do not even stick to the point.

PS. Watch your ingrata-like attitude, cebu is known in the philippines as the BPO center of the country, and it is these call center agents, that is responsible for making the Philippines the # IT center in the world (as far as i remember, we recently surpassed India). To say that being a call-center agent is a bad thing.

It's a honest , hard working living. Something that General Angelo Reyes was not known for. Considering he pocketed over 50 Million Pesos.
And where do you think those millions came from? Surely not from the heavens that poured it down on his head. It came from the everyday tax paying Filipino citizen. It came from the call center agents, the doctors, the nurses, the teachers, the lawyers, business owners  etc. People that work for a living.

Quote from: islander on February 22, 2011, 12:38:12 AM


well, if you insist, and if it makes you feel any better, dear humble below-average servant who has taken it upon himself to condemn people to perdition, so be it, because i don’t even have the ability to open the bible and i’m too imbecile to know what books comprise the old and the new testament nor do i have the energy such as you have to cut and paste bible passages from the internet. 

let it be said that i truly appreciate your humility as you condemn a suicide to hell, the kind of humility that’s quite in keeping with your revelation that your father had saved millions and calling a grandfather’s farm lot a hacienda in some other threads. 

i suggest you cease and desist from sounding like a religious scholar of sanctimonious proportions because you only end up convincing no one.   

that should not be an excuse for ignorance of the Word of God. Before you object to biblical verses , which are cosignatory to Divine Truth, in conjunction with Holy Tradition, then you should evade in the negative tone in regards to direct passages from the Holy Bible.

You had the audacity to poke fun of the verse from Book of Revelations, as if to indicate that you do not believe in the horsemen of the apocolapyse, as if to infer that you do not believe that the writings of St. John of the Divine, should be taken seriously. Consideringly, it must have been taken seriously since it was approved by the CATHOLIC CHURCH during the compilation of the bible, as well as later being retained by even the protestants , specifically martin luther.

Just to imply lang, my little 'dahlin', before you start shrugging verses from the bible, please also know that these are Divinely Inspired material and were written under the influence of the Holy Spirt on these writers, namely apostles , or disciples.

God Bless You!

A beautiful article by James Cordova

http://asiancorrespondent.com/48008/angelo-reyes-filipinos-should-stop-burying-the-sins-of-the-corrupt/


Angelo Reyes: Filipinos should stop burying the sins of the corrupt


he picture below, taken by NPPA Images, tragically represents the tragedy that is Angelo Reyes. It shows the tombstone on the grave of Purificacion Reyes, Angelo’s mother, smeared with her son’s blood after he shot himself in the hear



How can a family recover from something like this?

Days before he committed suicide, Reyes pleaded to the public not to drag his family into the corruption scandal that is rocking the Philippine military. But his suicide, as far as I’m concerned, settled the question on whether he was guilty of receiving millions of pesos from a payola taken from kickbacks and other corrupt practices in the military.

Spare his family? Didn’t Reyes  think of them before he pocketed those millions? Didn’t his family, particularly his wife, think of their good name and Purificacion before they spent those monies and lived allegedly luxurious lives?

We Filipinos are a forgiving people â€"  forgiving to a fault. We sweep problems like this under the rug when somebody as important as Reyes dies. Do not speak ill of the dead. The dead, no matter what they did in life, deserve respect.

I agree. But this culture of forgiveness, of burying our sense of justice along with the corrupt departed, is what makes our country such as sorry place. Remember the death of the dictator Ferdinand Marcos? When he died, not a few Filipinos said we should forget what he did and try to move on. Well, newsflash! We tried to move on but we have never moved on. The reason for that is because we lack the proper sense of outrage and even the moral sense to correct the wrongs done to us as a people.

This is not to disrespect the family of Angelo Reyes, let alone his mother. But before they demand  respect  from the public, they ought to show it to the public first.

Death, no matter how dramatic and tragic, should never be used as an occasion to forget a misdeed. Filipinos have done that quite often and look where we are now.

It shows to tell you, "dahlin" that both of us are able to talk about biblical passages concerning that part of the discussion. My inference of my education (as minimal as it is) shows to tell you that you going to a private catholic school (arent' most schools in the philippines, catholic?) does not make you higher than i, especially in regards to discussing about biblical verses.

Still, that does not  efface the fact that you erroneously mistook Revelations, 1 Corinthians, and 1 John as old testament since i strictly made reference to new testament verses.

that said,  i would suggest you realign your own readings and to re-read the bible before you start lecturing on who is qualified or unqualified to read and share words from Holy Scripture. Unless you are biblical theologian (with a Ph.D in divinity) then you are not in the position to tell me if i am able or not able to share my own inference, which directly supports my points that i have continuously supported through this discussion.



Oh, na, not so harsh diba?

Quote from: mistyeyed on February 22, 2011, 12:17:55 AM
Hahaha,maayo na,mostly man pod sa mga lalaki lami mo luto.

hahahaha. mao ba?

This is an interview of Reyes days prior his suicide.

In a clinical observation, the man shows no altered mental status, no brief manic or psychotic symptomology whatsoever.

On the contrary, he seems to be perfectly normal and in right state of mind. He answers questions with no supposed loss of reality.

Nor does he show flat effect (a side effect of anti-depression drugs, anti-psychotic, anti-schizophrenic drugs). hmmmm...

GENERAL ANGELO REYES

Ramon responds:
http://asiancorrespondent.com/48008/angelo-reyes-filipinos-should-stop-burying-the-sins-of-the-corrupt/


Yes people think his death is an admission of guilt for obvious reasons. He sure as hell doesn't have anything to be depressed about. He was a part of EDSA 2 he helped the people overthrow a president, then kills himself when people start calling him corrupt with backing evidence. What's that smell? Corruption cooking.

A beautiful article by James Cordova

http://asiancorrespondent.com/48008/angelo-reyes-filipinos-should-stop-burying-the-sins-of-the-corrupt/


Angelo Reyes: Filipinos should stop burying the sins of the corrupt


he picture below, taken by NPPA Images, tragically represents the tragedy that is Angelo Reyes. It shows the tombstone on the grave of Purificacion Reyes, Angelo’s mother, smeared with her son’s blood after he shot himself in the hear



How can a family recover from something like this?

Days before he committed suicide, Reyes pleaded to the public not to drag his family into the corruption scandal that is rocking the Philippine military. But his suicide, as far as I’m concerned, settled the question on whether he was guilty of receiving millions of pesos from a payola taken from kickbacks and other corrupt practices in the military.

Spare his family? Didn’t Reyes  think of them before he pocketed those millions? Didn’t his family, particularly his wife, think of their good name and Purificacion before they spent those monies and lived allegedly luxurious lives?

We Filipinos are a forgiving people â€"  forgiving to a fault. We sweep problems like this under the rug when somebody as important as Reyes dies. Do not speak ill of the dead. The dead, no matter what they did in life, deserve respect.

I agree. But this culture of forgiveness, of burying our sense of justice along with the corrupt departed, is what makes our country such as sorry place. Remember the death of the dictator Ferdinand Marcos? When he died, not a few Filipinos said we should forget what he did and try to move on. Well, newsflash! We tried to move on but we have never moved on. The reason for that is because we lack the proper sense of outrage and even the moral sense to correct the wrongs done to us as a people.

This is not to disrespect the family of Angelo Reyes, let alone his mother. But before they demand  respect  from the public, they ought to show it to the public first.

Death, no matter how dramatic and tragic, should never be used as an occasion to forget a misdeed. Filipinos have done that quite often and look where we are now.

Aguy. Kaluoy pood.

Ah, such quiet reverie. On top of his isle. What peaceful tranquility.

Fr. Roel, your voice is as calming as the cool breeze that blushes my face during my morning cycle in Lake Shore Drive. Very cool song. Very cool.

i like it much. more! more pa!

Quote from: mistyeyed on February 21, 2011, 11:55:55 PM

Hahaha,mao na buhata Lorenz when you get married

huhuhu unsaon man ug mao na ni gi buhat nako, wa pa galing na minjo.. 

samot na ug minjo na...

hmmm, murag troglodyte man ni sija... 

hahahaha lol

a cute one at that.

one might surmise..

Quote from: Vistabel on February 21, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
1. Adolf Hitler and the Pope had a secret agreement: The Pope would give Hitler ALL the support he needed in the conquest of Russia and Hitler would divide Italy once again and give back the Papal States to the Pope.

2. Adolf Hitler was humored son of Jose Rizal because they have a lot of similarities like a relative.

1. Was not Germany a cosignatory with Italy , and Japan in the Tri-partite Axis Alliance? Would not the division of Italy break that alliance and eventually lead to a German-Italian War?

From my understanding, wasn't Benito Mussolini , at the time, actively trying to limit the powers of the Catholic Church and its influence on local (Italian) politics?

Perhaps you can clarify me on that.

hehe ug si sri phra hubag, kini siya, selective katoliko ra pood ni sija. mo attack sa mga pari, mo condemn sa mga statutes sa simbahan, pero, when it bequeaths his interest, he then becomes a 'born again aged catholic'. lol.

kining tawhan, mao kuyawa.

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
just one more opinion of a writer who isn't much to begin with (considering his use of hackneyed expressions like 'foul-smelling dead fish' and 'spreading like wild fire in the forest') and one who seems better at not feeling uncomfortable in his condemnation.

of course, filipinos are a forgiving people.

who can say?  heroes come in different forms.  why, even some super heroes have their own reasons for wearing their briefs outside for all to see, like superman and batman.  and yes, when the idea of ofws as heroes was first brought forth, many had initially scoffed.  these days, it's a given.  today's heel could be tomorrow's hero and vice versa.

it could be that there are heroes who choose to die and bring their own secrets to the grave rather than start singing like a parrot, naming names and bringing an institution and the whole country down with them.  there could be heroes who might have visions of bloodshed and unexplained assassinations because a military institution has been pushed to the wall for some corruption that is not really limited to such institution alone but is rather all-pervading, the investigating legislators allegedly included.  the possibilities for heroism are endless, being eaten by a lion in the old days that raised heroism a notch and being called martyrdom notwithstanding.

when legislators truly come up with laws as a result of the investigation (too many televised investigations in the past resulted to nothing, as one study shows), laws that cover themselves as well, then reyes shall not have killed himself in vain.

(at their perch, these legislative investigators--always in aid of legislation, they say--have not even touched what is enshrined in the constitution about political dynasties in which they are players.  they haven't come up with a single enabling law on this, which begs the question of who investigates the legislative investigators?)      

How arrogant of you. To criticize the writer's writing ability, instead of understanding his point of view and body of material that was laid to bare. You are interesting, isles, you claim to want a new philippines, devoid of corruption, but at the moment of one corrupt former military man's death (suicide), you have lost the spark of credibility, and have become a defender. His death does not pardon his crimes, no , no. His death and the reaction of some people to his death indicates how quick people are to forget the crimes. legislative investigators still need to pry open the story and truth from his situation.

in the progression towards a more responsible government , and a better functioning democracy, investigators must refrain from detractive tendencies of the emotional outburst of the times. it must remain unhindered in the pursuit of justice.

reyes' death was his own choosing. his estate and his perpetrators must and should answer to the law. no one is above the law. not even the dead.

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
incidentally, i am not referring to your biblical posts in this thread alone but in all your posts in this whole planet of tb.  
(please, brother, i may not be as knowledgeable as you are about the bible, but if memory serves me right i may not be that ignorant either as i took a special class on this in college for one whole semester, having graduated from an exclusive catholic school for girls.  i was picked out with one other student [yes, the special class had only two students].  knowing how our discussions went, please don't blame me if i regard you as a plebe when it comes to the bible.  i can, of course, tolerate your grandiloquence, which is usually a product of little knowledge.)

god bless you too.

Thank you for sharing your most illustrious career in biblical study. Unbeknownst to you, my little dear, is that I attended a prestigious private college in the United States. In my stay as a Molecular Biology & European History double major (while under the competitive pre-medical track), i managed to minor in religious studies. I studied the Q'uran for 2 whole semesters, 1 semester on Intensive Middle Eastern History, as well as 1 Semester on Christian Historiography, 1 semester on comparative religious text (bible, tanakh, and the q'uran), let alone was an active member on our Collegiate Catholic Newman's Society (a collegiate body that focused on catholic study, as well as intensive biblical study).

I may be a 'plebe', but I dare say, you should watch your mouth in your comparatives, little lady.

I was also humbly selected as a Collegiate Trustees Scholar (through my humble knowledge in things, was awarded a scholarship of over $35,000 + an additional $ 75,000;  then selected as one of 15 students out of a list of 500 to attend a study abroad program in the Ukraine..which was based on one's GPA and academic standing). But of course, a person of little knowledge like me cannot compare, dare i even blink, to the likes of you....





PS. You still managed to mix up old testament from new testament. As per you last post. So , I suggest you re-read your bible.
Afterall, just because one 'read' a book some eons back,does not necessarily mean he/she retains it all after a period of lack of study.


A humble below-average student.,

Quote from: taga tigbao on February 21, 2011, 05:44:43 PM
When does conception begins Bro? Fertilization or Implantation?

The moment sperm meets egg, bro. Implantation is merely the attachment of the blastocyst into the uterine wall. It is already a living being.

The prototype of a human being. The moment fertilization occurs, life is created in such a way that leads to unprecedented growth and rapid cellular division.

God, in His Brilliance, deigns it so that by the 3rd to 4th week of life, the embryonic heart is almost finished developing. By the end of this stage, the embryonic heart immediately pumps as soon as it is completed. The moment of conception, the blastocyst is already pre-programmed to develop in such a way that the heart begins development immediately.

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Quote from: Ms. V on February 21, 2011, 03:36:07 PM
thank you Lorenzo...

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Quote from: TUBAGBOHOL.com on February 21, 2011, 07:20:08 PM
A firm based in Aschaffenburg, Germany wants to bring a special but highly advanced German technology to Iloilo like solar and water recycling systems, in cooperation with the German State Company for International Cooperation (GIZ).

Ms. Socorro Cansancio-Bender, chief executive officer (CEO) of YelloBill 168 ek, said the offer will also consist of flexible modules that can be used in many different shapes, sizes and colors for architectural design of buildings, propaganda or just as a beautiful artistic display.

These will not only have an aesthetic appeal, but also bring profit to the owner by producing electricity.

Bender, married to a German businessman-industrialist, is a native of Leon, Iloilo who wants to bring advantages from YelloBill 168 to her beloved home, Iloilo and possibly register YelloBill 168 Philippines in Iloilo City.

The other projects being offered to Iloilo City and province include illumination of the streets, buildings, parks and special places that can be done by solar street lamps and multiple choice of solar operated special lamps for parks, alleys, ponds, road marking, road signs, traffic lights and buildings. = pna

Very cool! Bohol napood!

Quote from: Vistabel on February 21, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
1. Adolf Hitler and the Pope had a secret agreement: The Pope would give Hitler ALL the support he needed in the conquest of Russia and Hitler would divide Italy once again and give back the Papal States to the Pope.

2. Adolf Hitler was humored son of Jose Rizal because they have a lot of similarities like a relative.

Really? As per your reasoning #2, who is the relative they have in common?

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First Emperor of China

Pope John Paul II.


He was integral to the fall of Communism. And the re-conversion of Russia, completing the prophesy of Our Blessed Mother.

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A fetus' heart is completely formed by the 4-5 week. And will immediately pump blood. This same heart will continue to pump throughout the child's life, throughout adulthood until his/her anatomical death , usually in the 7th to 8th decade of life.

The heart starts to pump during the 1st trimester of life. Usually on the 8th to 9th week of life, the heart can be heard in ultrasound.

On the 5th week of formation, the fetal pole is formed. This is the prototype of the nervous system. By the 6th week, the fetus can feel. He/she will respond to pain , to joy, to calmness.

The fetus responds directly to his mother's emotion. When the mother is stressed, or anxious, the fetus' heart beat rises, indicating fetal stress.

I am sickened that there are even doctors, the noblest of all professions, who elect to become abortionists. The antithesis of the very calling of medicine. Instead of saving lives, prolonging life, and delaying death. They become instruments of death. Stealing lives at such an early age.

Disgusting.

And there are those amongst us who dare to say that a fetus does not deserve to be called a human being until it is expelled during labor.

The audacity of these fools. That they , too, once were mere fetuses in their mother's wombs.

Life begins at conception. Period!

A product of early term abortion

the product of late-term abortion.

what is abortion?

Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by the removal or expulsion of a fetus or embryo from the uterus, resulting in or caused by its death.An abortion can occur spontaneously due to complications during pregnancy or can be induced, in humans and other species. In the context of human pregnancies, an abortion induced to preserve the health of the gravida (pregnant female) is termed a therapeutic abortion, while an abortion induced for any other reason is termed an elective abortion. The term abortion most commonly refers to the induced abortion of a human pregnancy, while spontaneous abortions are usually termed miscarriages.

source: wikipedia

Do you believe abortion is an ethical action? (early term, late term abortion)

hahaha. oh very interesting. fr. roel, i have a friend who lives downstairs of my apartment building. she has a very thick bayou accent.

cute na cute. 

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 08:30:51 AM
He he, we'll never know with these bearded guys...

haha. looking at your recent obsession with bearded men, i wonder on your own response. 

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 10:19:46 AM
He he, angay man ni ikauwaw... 

haha. im impressed with your rapid ascension. ive been a member since 2007. you, since 2009. and you already have posted so much.

you bring up rather interesting points, and colorful threads, hubag.

speaking on a serious note.

Quote from: Gener on October 27, 2009, 02:38:38 PM
A close friend of our family sent a forwarded message that tells semantic reasons why women cry.

The story was all about a little who boy asked his mother why she’s crying. The mother told her son, “Because I’m a woman.” The boy, not satisfied with her mother’s answer went to his father and asked him, “Why does mother seem to cry for no reason?” His father replied. “All women cry for no reason.”

I read so much about stories and articles trying to explain countless reasons why women cry. There are those who say that women cry because of biological reason while there are those claiming that women are using it to gain psychological advantage over their men. For me, I'm fortunate of having a wife who cries easily because I knew that she would bear all things and together, we will go over all these things no matter what, against all odds, through thick and thin and come hell or high water. She cries with me as well during my lowest of all lows sharing my pains and sometimes taking it away from me so as to make feel comfortable. We cried together not to show our vulnerability or weaknesses but to accept our constant need of God's help and only through Him that we surrender everything.

To all the husbands, I tell you how fortunate you are for having wives who cry. Surely, you knew that you have a spouse that will always be with you, behind you right or wrong. A wife who tries to hold on and on till eternity. Though I pray that your wife's tears will not run dry or her heart turns to stone for one day, you will wake up to find out that it is all over.

What a blessing it must be to have a wife who will cry for you.
Hmm..

marcokes,

nice point, as much as many of the marcos apologists would want him to be buried there, the general consensus in the philippines still is antagonistic to his internment in said place.

btw, welcome to tubag bohol dot com!

Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on April 08, 2010, 12:27:38 AM
Pope (from Papa meaning Father) is the term used for the men who have ruled the Catholic Church since its birth at Pentecost. Throughout the history of the papacy there have been a small number of wicked popes, but in contrast there have been many great ones (Pope Saint Gregory the Great, for example, who gave us the calendar we all use today). There has also been a great deal of bloodshed in the history of the Papacy â€" this list looks at ten cases of that. This list is in chronological order.

10. Pope St Peter13 October 64 A.D.

As one of the original apostles of Jesus, and one of the greatest purveyors of Christianity at the time, the apostle Simon Peter became the ire of Emperor Nero of Rome who despised Christians (going so far as to blame them for the Great Fire of Rome earlier in the year 64AD). An order was sent out by Nero for Peter’s arrest, but he escaped. During his escape, Peter witnessed a vision of Jesus which inspired him to return to Rome and accept his martyrdom. It is said that he asked to be crucified as Jesus was, but to be turned on his head so as not to imitate Jesus’ crucifixion. In this position, he wouldn’t easily be able to suffocate to death as those in an upright position were prone to do, prolonging his death.

9. Pope St Clement I (99 A.D.)

According to legend, after being banished from Rome and sent to work in a stone quarry, Clement found that his fellow prisoners were suffering from dehydration. After kneeling to pray, he saw a lamb on a hill. He took a pickaxe and struck the ground where the lamb stood, and a stream of water came gushing out. As it goes, upon seeing this many locals and fellow prisoners were converted to Christianity on the spot. As punishment by the guards, an anchor was tied around Clement’s neck and he was thrown into the Black Sea.

8. Pope St Stephen I (2 August 257)

Stephen was only Pope for a scant three years, but was burdened by controversy both within the church, and from outside forces. Within the church, the debate roared on over the subject of rebaptism of lapsed Catholics and the like. Outside the church, though, Emperor Valerianâ€" who had once been an ally of Christians, but later turned away from themâ€" issued two edicts of persecution against the church. Stephen was sitting in his throne, celebrating Mass, when the emperor’s men stormed the room and beheaded Stephen where he sat. The blood-stained throne was alleged to have been preserved by the church until the 18th century.

7. Pope St Sixtus II (6 August 258)

Not too long after Pope Stephen I was killed, Sixtus II was elected as the new Pope. During this time, Emperor Valerian had made it law that all Christians were required to participate in ceremonies honoring the Roman gods, largely to avoid conflict with the government. As Pope, though, Sixtus was able to avoid this. Unfortunately, not long after the first decree, Valerian sent out another which condemned Christians priests, bishops, and deacons to death. While giving a sermon, Sixtus II was captured by the emperor’s men and put to death by beheadingâ€" the first victim of the infamous 258 Persecutions.

6. Pope John VII (18 October 707)

Born the grandson of a Senator, and the son of a state official, made John VII the first Pope to be born from a distinguished family line. He was also Pope during the time of the “Byzantine Papacy”, wherein all Popes had to be approved by the Byzantine emperor to ensure that all decisions made would suit the state, though as with other Popes during that time things didn’t always go so smoothly. But it wasn’t the state that would see to his end, but rather the enraged husband of a woman John VII was sleeping with who caught them in the act, and beat the Pope to death.

5. Pope John VIII (16 December 882)

Some consider him one of the greatest Popes of his times, and others argue otherwise; but neither would disagree that his time was marred by political intrigue. It was only a matter of time before he himself would become the victim of this. There is some speculation as to whether it was a coordinated assassination, or simply done out of jealousy of the churches treasures; but one evening a relative of John VIII visited the Pope, and poisoned his drink. Finding that the poison did not work quickly enough, the relative bashed in John’s head in with a hammer.


4 Pope Stephen VII (August 897)

This one is actually a two-fer of sorts. The thing Pope Stephen VII is most famous for is not any particular decree, or acts of benevolence, but rather for putting a corpse on trial. Specifically, his predecessor, Pope Formosus, was put to trial in what would become known as the Cadaver Synod. Upon finding dead Pope Formosus guilty of all charges, Stephen VII had him stripped of his papal vestments, three fingers removed from his right hand, his body thrown into the Tiber river, and all the former Pope’s laws and ordinations annulled. Sadly for Stephen VII, the trial caused a frenzy and he was imprisoned, and later put to death by strangling.


3 Pope John XII (14 May 964)

When people think of the Pope, the more devout will think of them as a benevolent and compassionate leader, or failing that, at least as a pretty nice guy most of the time. Not so with John XII. Shortly after being elected Pope at the age of eighteen, John XII decided the whole celibacy thing wasn’t for him and went about humping whatever he could. Gambling, theft, assassinations, and incest are only a few things he was reported to have partaken in regularly. It’s even alleged that he would toast Satan and Roman gods and demons during sermons and other celebrations. He was briefly deposed by Pope Leo VII after John XII handed the papal lands over to German king Otto I, but was later reinstated. So after all that, it only seems a somewhat ironically fitting end that John XII would be beaten to death by a jealous husband coming home to find the Pope having sex with his wife.

2. Pope Benedict VI (June 974)

It seems Benedict VI never did a whole lot himself, and yet he was destined to suffer for the transgressions of his predecessor, Pope John XIII, who during his time as Pope made several enemies amongst the nobility in Europe. John at one point was captured and exiled, yet managed to return and had several of his enemies hung for their parts in his exile. John went on to die a natural death, but unfortunately Benedict was not as fortunate. Only a year and a half after being elected Pope, a priest named Crescentius Iâ€" brother of the late Pope John XIIIâ€" was ordered to capture, and later strangle Benedict VI to death.

1. Pope John XXI (18 August 1277)

Along with being Pope for only a very short eight months, John XXI was also a practicing physician and a prolific writer, writing on subjects such as logic, philosophy and medicine. It seems a fitting tribute then that John XXI would be immortalized in Dante’s classic epic poem, the Divine Comedy (La Divina Commedia). He is actually the only Pope shown to live in Paradise. But to get to paradise, John XXI met with an unfortunate accident. Shortly after a new wing was added to his Palace in Viterbo, Italy, a section of the poorly constructed roof collapsed in on him while he was asleep in his bed. He died of his injuries eight days later.

Very humbling! Thanks for sharing.

Hayy, how i miss home. I can't wait till May till I get to go home for a bit.

Raquel, during my trying times of 1st  year Medicine, i would watch his videos and messages in youtube.com when i was studying in the library. or sometimes, i would take a break from anatomy lab studies, and would go to the desk, open up my laptop and listen to his message of 'not giving up'.

as if he was speaking to me directly.

some more:


a. Napoleon Bonaparte

b. Czar Ivan the Terrible

c. King Charles XII

d. Sultan Mehmed IV

Quote from: Vistabel on February 21, 2011, 10:21:25 AM
for me, Adolf Hitler.

interesting answer. you've got balls for saying that. i respect that.

if you don't mind. can you give us some reason(s) for why he was the greatest leader of all time?

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Reminiscing suicide: Judas Iscariot, Adolf Hitler and Angelo Reyes


On February 8, 2011, Former Sec. Angelo Reyes committed suicide infront of her mother’s tomb. A shot in the chest that went straight to his heart took his life. At the same time, the foul-smelling dead fish of corruption in the AFP has been spreading like wild fire in the forest. Reyes was in question for allegedly receiving government money during his stay in his Defense Chief post or maybe before that as a military officer. He was a general and alumnus of PMA.

When he died, sympathy flooded the country. Various officials say that he was a loss and that he gave a lot of contributions to the nation. Some also said that he was a victim of trial by publicity and he was framed up. Some critics have become sympathizers after lambasting Reyes as corrupt. Many said that what he did was a supreme sacrifice and honorable thing. And so he was laid to the Libingan ng mga Bayani (Heroes’ Cemetery).

After the incident I asked: What makes somebody who committed suicide a hero? The heroes in the country were killed in war or executed because of martyrdom although I know that the definition of heroism doesn’t only require those kinds of deaths. The government currently says that OFW’s are the new breed of heroes. There are also heroes who saved lives of other people but still are able to save themselves from getting killed.

There’s one character I know who is considered a hero after committing a suicide. It’s the fictional character Harry Stamper (Bruce Willis) from the movie Armageddon. He detonated the bomb, sacrificing his life, so that the asteriod will be cut into two and won’t hit the earth. But it was just a movie with all the exactness of events that came up with all the people cheering after.

I know that heroism comes with a price and I know that it takes a brave and courageous man to do become a hero. But heroes who dedicated their lives have an ultimate goal: to help and to serve others or for the greater good/glory. As I watched several close people, colleagues of Angelo Reyes who were giving speech about what he has done to the country, it can really be concluded that he has given his life for public service. He has dedicated himself in the military to the different offices opened by Presidential Decrees and different cabinet posts as well. There’s really no doubt to such service to the public. But committing suicide, what a sad end to a good life. I really believe it is NEVER an honorable thing to do such act in the midst of a controversy involving your own name.

It’s not a supreme sacrifice. How can it be a sacrifice when there’s an anomaly and you refuse to face it? How can it be honorable when you know the truth and you can’t say it? If Reyes were innocent, the hell what other people will think. It doesn’t matter. You SAY you are innocent. The world posits to be prejudicial. When Hubert Webb was sentenced to life imprisonment, he didn’t care what others say. He was firm in saying he’s innocent until he was freed.

Maybe Reyes has done good in the public. Maybe he has also done something bad as well. Well that’s part of the definition of a human being â€" vulnerable, imperfect and prone to sins. But shutting up and not telling the truth, it’s also the same as lying. Instead of making the issues clearer, the suicide raised more questions regarding AFP’s corruption. I’ve heard Teresita Ang-See who vouched for Reyes’ undoubted public service in Anti-Kidnapping and such. She said that it is impossible for Reyes to steal the money because of his ‘good’ background. But you have to think that we are humans. We also commit mistakes. That’s inevitable.

When I heard that Reyes committed suicide, the only thing that came out of my head was- GUILTY. In one of TV Patrol’s episodes, Reyes cannot answer straight to Korina’s questions regarding his involvement in the AFP corruption. His answers were short and vague like, “Wala akong kinalaman dyan.” (I have nothing to do with it.) He cannot further elaborate his findings and whereabouts during that time. In the same episode, Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago called him “gago” (stupid) for saying that he has nothing to do with the corruption issue. And I think, the blunt senator has a point. You are the Defense Chief (like a president) and the Comptroller (treasurer) has been stealing the money and keeping it for the higher officials and their wives. It’s very impossible for the Chief to miss out findings of loss budget (say, hundred of millions of allocated budget) and just say “Hindi ko alam ang mga ‘yan.” (I don’t know about it.)   The senator was right in calling him stupid in that sense because Filipinos are not stupid when he said that.

Now there are a lot of mourners. And there are also a lot who pity Reyes. It’s part of the Filipino culture to sympathize and FORGET about the bigger picture. But again I say, Reyes’ death is not a supreme sacrifice.

Last January, in my pay slip, P8,000 of my salary went to tax for the government. And I’m going to pay my tax for the next years of my life. I’m only one of the millions of Filipinos who work hard to earn money for a living and to support a family. Instead of having the whole money to have a little more for budgeting my daily life, it goes to the government which we expect to do its role in the society. That’s why I think the Filipinos have the right to question the credibility of the government and to question where the hell do our taxes go.

It’s not only an issue about money and life of a General. It’s an issue of principle and transparency. The issue started from some sort of “Mock Battle of Manila” in the Ombudsman after a shitty plea bargaining agreement with a corrupt comptroller. We are getting to the bottom of the issue and it shouldn’t stop. Penalize all those involved and remove the medals that they don’t deserve. While the soldiers don’t have the right gear and uniform for their war and old weapons and few bullets at hand, these Generals are enjoying the people’s money by buying expensive houses and luxurious cars. Where in the world are the consciences and souls of these people? My friend Eddie said, these people are so greedy they stole money too much for their lifetime. How greedy. Now, is that something honorable? And now the truth is being covered up? Wake up!

As I was reflecting, I realized that Reyes’ suicide was very similar to what Adolf Hitler did when he was about to lose. Both of them were honorable in their respected positions although Reyes didn’t intend to kill millions of Jews. But instead of facing the truth, they chickened out and killed themselves after committing mistakes they didn’t want to correct.

When I had my GREATWK, we studied a boring “Great Work” of Emile Durkheim, the book “SUICIDE.” We discussed the different kinds of suicide for 1/3 of the trimester (how boring!). Anyway, a lot of Reyes’ supporters think that what he did was ALTRUISTIC SUICIDE. This suicide happens when an individual is expected to kill himself on behalf of the society like soldier in a military service. But I beg to differ. I’d rather consider it FATALISTIC SUICIDE. This suicide happens when a person prefers to die than to live within his society like preferring to die rather to be in prison with constant abuse which prohibits him from pursuing his desires.

I would want Sec. Angelo Reyes to rest in peace. Death of person makes people especially loved ones sad. But I think there are lot of barriers to be in peace. Here are some of my realizations:

1. Angelo Reyes’ death will not make any change in the corrupt government. It’s another one wasted life. He’s a victim of corruption that ate him.

2. What he did was a selfish move. He only thought of himself and forgot about God’s love, his family, his friends and the whole Philippine nation waiting for the truth.

3. His suicide might have been triggered by guilt, like what Judas did after betraying Jesus (like him betraying the country) although both of them have served their masters.

4. Good educational background doesn’t make you a morally upright person. Harvard diploma doesn’t give it. Grades are just numbers. Values come from the person. It comes from within.

5. Heroes don’t kill themselves in the middle of a fight or hide from the truth.

6. And lastly, as what I’ve learned in TREDONE with Dr. Arnold Monera, suicide is a one way ticket to hell.

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 10:16:45 AM
Sigi lang kay segurado man nga para kang Swami Tirapasagabran way giandam nga "eternal fires of hell".  ;

awww, based sa ining hypothetical situwasyon, hinduism/buddhism man ni. dharma rules in this situwasyon, reincarnation until the state of perfect nothingness is reached.

o diba, Sri Phra Hubag...?

Quote from: islander on January 22, 2011, 01:21:35 AM
hahaha!  kun hanap ug mata ang nagbasa nga wa mag-antiyohos, puro itlog ang makit-an anang imong scorecard, bai hubs.  pustahi dayon nag lotto.  naay bulawan sa itlog.

ikaw isles. when are you going to catch up to tubag bohol's very own elderly worldly sage, Sri Phra Hubagavadrinathan?

Quote from: hubag bohol on January 22, 2011, 12:05:47 AM
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Pastilan! Zaon na lang!

Hoy, Botoy, ayaw na pagsigig yampungad dihas TB. Pangita nag trabaho, oi! 

proud of your new record? lol.

Quote from: maggil44 on December 30, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
I like to read any good quality book. Because I am a scientist. So I love to read book. 

what if you are an average scientist, only average books?

what if one is a bad scientist, only bad books?

Quote from: chicogon on December 23, 2010, 01:48:20 PM
"Reading makes a nation great." 

also,


"reading enlightens the soul"

Quote from: siddle33 on December 27, 2010, 12:04:23 AM
I like very much to read any kind story book. However I am also a good student. So reading is my beast hobby.

good good. a student must be good in order to succeed ! be a prolific reader, don't be afraid to read 'outside' genres.

the poem was written by : aka ptrmrkv

my bad, nong.

oh my bad! the writer is : aka ptrmrkv

da!

pero, pero, ang nemesis ni Swami, si Sri Isla-Lakshmi, naa pa diri. Ning duwa pa sila duha sa Mahabharat...

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 09:41:33 AM
He he, morag kauban ni sila ni Swami Tirapasagabran... 

LOL. Ang problema ai si Sri Phra Hubag, ning ascend ni sija sa nirvana, wa na jamo lagi. in a painless state na. Di ka follow si Tirapasagabran.

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 09:20:01 AM
oh, lorenzo, do you not see that it is more on how you select and use biblical passages to suit your personal opinion?  this is what i meant by cross-referencing and refraining from being literal in your understanding.  you pick out passages from the old testament without considering how these are fulfilled in the new testament and without sparing even a thought to “The God of the Old Testament is a God of wrath while the God of the New Testament is a God of love,” for one, so long as the passage, literally, supports your claim of perdition to suicides, which is how this thread had gone after your "divine judgment" on angelo reyes (when the thread was only about whether his dying was honorable or not, sans divine judgment on whether he's in hell or not).  

no, no, i dare not question the word of god; never did, never will.  do you not see that i'm questioning you?  is there no difference now between you and god?

HENCEFORTH, READ THE JERUSALEM BIBLE.  MOST IMPORTANT, READ THE DETAILED FOOTNOTES THERE, INCLUDING THE HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL UNDERPINNINGS OF PASSAGES AND ACCOUNTS.  this particular version of the bible is a catholic biblical scholar's best friend.  (i hope fr chic agrees with the priest who had told me this and who gave me this bible eons ago. )  your understanding and discernment, if you may, will change enough for you to have second thoughts about what passages to post here because, heavens, there is more to the words in the bible than meets the eye.

i think you , youself, need to discern, my dear isles. As far as i know, and as any good bible-reading Catholic , Christian knows, is that Corinthians is not old testament, but new testament. The book of Revelations is not old testament, but New Testament. Neither is 1st John Old Testament but New Testament.

It appears to me that you need to do some more reading yourself. A bit more, sister. 

God Bless you!

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
kabaw ba ani, hahahahaha!  nagtuo tingali si inday luci nga di ko ka-afford sa rent ug wa koy visa.

hala, na unsaon man ug wa kay visa?

Quote from: chicogon on February 21, 2011, 09:21:20 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:

Dunay gipaabot deris taas si Santino ug Inday Luci nga ipasara daw karyo - temporarily ra god - ang impyerno kay maghimo pa daw silag dugang cubicles didto para sa mga naghikog. Nakabati daw sila sa panaglantugi sa Tubag Bohol nga madugangan sila didto... no vacancy pa daw karon. Kinsa tong naghikog from 1988 - present, dili pa pwede dawaton didto kay medyo taas2x pa daw backlog. Lupig pay backlog sa U.S. immigration bwahahahaha 

Matud pa ni Inday Luci, sa nakasabot lang..... 

i love how Fr. Roel is able to make all of us laugh even in this quite very beautiful discussion. always, jud ko mo smile nimo , Fr.

sige, i will now rest my case.

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 08:45:20 AM
yes, you should.  after all, do we not know that even the devil can quote the bible?  and who was that who "predicted" that angelo reyes's soul is suffering the fires of eternal damnation?  i thought it was a prophesy, if not a divine judgment.

but it says directly in revelations and 1 corinthians chapter 3 verse 7 and 8! i am not prophesying , but quoting and directly sourcing from the Holy Bible. Word for Word!

Oh, isles....

Do you question the Word of God? Are you saying that the Word of God is flawed?

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 08:37:19 AM
you have my sympathy.  i understand sleep deprivation is one of the most common complaints of medical interns on top of at the bottom of the pecking order.  i hope that your posts aren't products of such terrible toll on your road to a medical profession.

"  ...Walker described the heightened emotional response in the weary as "profound," noting, "We've never seen a magnitude of increase between two groups that big in any of our studies before."

The team also checked the fMRI readings to determine whether any other brain regions had a similar pattern of activity, which would indicate that the brain networks were communicating with one another. In normal participants, the amygdala seemed to be talking to the medial prefrontal cortex, an outer layer of the brain that, Walker says, helps to contextualize experiences and emotions. But, in the sleep-deprived brain, the amygdala seemed to be "rewired," coupling instead with a brain stem area called the locus coeruleus, which secretes norepinephrine, a precursor of the hormone adrenaline that triggers fight-or-flight type reactions.

"Medial prefrontal cortex is the policeman of the emotional brain," Walker says. "It makes us more rational. That top-down, inhibitory connection is severed in the condition of sleep deprivation. … The amygdala seems to be able to run amok." People in this state seem to experience a pendulum of emotions, going from upset and annoyed to giddy in moments, he says.

"There seems to be a causal relationship between impaired sleep and some of the psychiatric symptomatology and disorders that we're seeing," says Robert Stickgold, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School who was not involved in this study. He cites research linking sleep apnea, in which breathing is disrupted, to attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and the evidence of a connection between depression and insomnia as examples. "It might be that those medial frontal regions tell the rest of the brain, 'You can chill,'" he says. "Those circuits become exhausted or altered after a lack of sleep."    "             

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-a-lack-of-sleep-cause

sleep deprivation, not so much. treatment of some of the arrogant physicians , more so. there are 5 of us in our group, so in cases were we are on call for 12-18 hours, we rotate on sleep. there is never a time that all of us interns are up at the same time. 2-3 are sleeping when 2-3 are up doing rounds.

in the medical field, as in any profession, one has to have a system going.

trust me tho, there was a time when i was up doing a full day round. meaning i was up for 36 hours. no sleep what so ever. then expecting to present on diabetes mellitus to my attending. whoa. can i say coffee-fied?

lol.

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 08:38:16 AM
Indeed. It was meant for your delicate ears...  

pwera bujag!


I'm sure if you said it , it would have been in the same valencianhon-dimianon accent the women have when they say 'estoryaheee'

much thanks for your consideration of my delicate hears. im sure you should worry about your own ears before mine.

but thanks tho.

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 08:20:47 AM

So you don't know that you sound arrogant? Perhaps this little introduction into some basic writing principles will lead you into a more careful "sharing", and hopefully into a more realistic view of yourself:

Nope. I guess only to you who takes it seriously , let alone take my writings as if im trying to put anyone down.

Let me tell you something, dear sage, has it ever occurred to your lovely little head that you happen to sound a bit arrogant, pretentious in how you deliberate your responses to people. Or , dare I count the many times you jest on people's abilities? It's a matter of the kettle calling the pot black.

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 08:11:55 AM


now, now, it is as if you alone have read this.  let me let you in on a little secret:  i've read this while i was still a three-month-old fetus in my mother's womb.

Ah, truly, with jest as always. 

Quote from: islander on February 21, 2011, 08:11:55 AM
i don't know whether she did or not.  if i have to be literal about the bible, well, the bible does not devote much space to mary magdalene's biography.  what i know is that she was forgiven.  period.

now, now, it is as if you alone have read this.  let me let you in on a little secret:  i've read this while i was still a three-month-old fetus in my mother's womb.

so shall it be.  and when the time comes, "...her prophets have daubed for them with whitewash, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, 'Thus says the Lord God,' when The Lord has not spoken." (Ezekiel 22:28 RSV)

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits. Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. On that day many will say to Me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and do many mighty works in Your Name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you evildoers.'" (Matthew 7:15-23 RSV)

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." (Matthew 24:24 RSV)

as you advised me to read (thanks!), i advise to try your best to avoid being a false prophet.

and where in the bible is this?  you have no quotation?  hehe.

Indeed the Bible tells us to beware of false prophets. However, my dear, I am not claiming to be a prophet, less alone claim to have interaction and speak with the Divine or know the future.

What is a prophet?

In Christianity a prophet (or seer[37]) is one inspired by God through the Holy Spirit to deliver a message for a specific purpose. It is often associated with predicting future events, but in biblical terms it is wider and can include those given the power to preach repentance to those who do not want to hear the message and to warn of God's wrath for disobedience. God's calling as a prophet is not considered to elevate an individual for their glory, but for the glory of God and to turn people to him. Some Christian denominations would limit that and exclude those who receive a personal message not intended for the body of believers, but in the Bible on a number of occasions prophets were called to deliver personal messages.[38] The reception of a message is termed revelation and the delivery of the message is termed prophecy.

source: wikipedia

Please know the difference between prophets and biblical passage sharing.

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 07:54:04 AM
If you noticed, I was describing myself.

it was an honest admission, worldly sage. troglodyte is a new word. much thanks.

The grace of patience and to be able to take a beating.

If you see how attendings treat medical interns. You'll know what I'm talking about.

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 05:52:33 AM
Apparently, figures of speech are not taught in medical school.  

apparently, i should have learned from the modern day socrates himself. 

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 05:56:46 AM
Not at all. I'm not sensitive about allusions to my love life (or lack of it). I'm only sometimes roused from my troglodyte existence by the ravings of arrogant imbeciles.   

hahaha, the first time i ever heard of the word troglodyte. now now, must we have to stoop down to name calling, dear worldly sage? 

i like reading responses of worldly sages such as sri phra hubagadrivadrinathan. 

Quote from: hubag bohol on February 21, 2011, 05:42:35 AM
It's not about wisdom or whatever. It is about you not admitting you're wrong. Unya quote-quote dayon kag voluminous verses to hide the fact nga nasayop ka. You always want to show that you're better. With all your "scholarly" quotations and references and pompous declarations of faith, you appear to even want to sound better than Fr. Chic when it comes to understanding of the Catholic faith. Can anyone be more presumptuous than that?

Sound better than a priest in catholic dogma? How presumptuous of you, my dear sage. Never did I think like that, but sharing some truths as explained in biblical passages. An exchange of ideas does not necessarily mean one is presumptuous. Not everything is negative, dear worldly sage.



ps. i thought it was cute how you said 'estoryaheeee'. something that my titas say in valencia.  


God Bless you Nong!

Of course. Wise in Christ.

That I'm very sure, bro!