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#2001
World Daily News / Re: NY nuns sue Pinay over 'tuyo'
January 15, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
sus, gatoto jud siguro ang laway sa mga madre adto.

lingaw au ang graphics adto kay gaistorya ang nun ug ang pinoy, giingnan ang nun sa pinoy nga:

i thought penguins love fish!?!
#2002
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Happy Fiesta for Valencia!
January 15, 2009, 01:04:11 PM
oi, past tense na man diay. sayang! wa bay bahaw diha ug hinilisan? or duga-duga?
#2003
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Happy Fiesta for Valencia!
January 15, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
mamista mi dong!
#2004
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Happy Fiesta for Valencia!
January 15, 2009, 12:39:17 PM
cut-and-paste technology!
#2005
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Happy Fiesta for Valencia!
January 15, 2009, 12:35:18 PM
The propagation of the devotion to the Holy Child as boy and king was of Spanish origin. It was most avidly promoted by the reformed order of Carmelite nuns led by the enigmatic St. Teresa of Avila in the 16th century.

From La Madre, the devotion to the Christ Child caught on. Icons of the Child Jesus soon began to appear in many churches and homes in Europe and was mass-produced in Flanders (now Belgium). It gained wide popularity in Prague and Bohemia in the Vitarra River.

Eventually, the cult of the devotion to the Holy Child reached Latin America, Asia and the rest of the Christian world.

In 1517, King Charles V of Spain visited Flanders and brought home with him to Spain several Flanders-crafted icons of the Holy Child, one of which was given to the adventurer Ferdinand Magellan who took the icon with him in his voyage to the other side of the world and to Cebu. In this Malay settlement, Magellan gave the icon as gift to the wife of the Cebuano datu (chief) in 1521.

Nothing was known of the icon until 44 years later when it was discovered by Juan Camus, a soldier in the second Spanish expedition led by Miguel Lopez de Legazpi, in one of the charred houses in the old Sugbu in 1565. The event also marked the founding of the first permanent settlement in Cebu named City of the Most Holy Name of Jesus in 1571.

On April 28, 1565, Fr. Andres de Urdaneta founded the first convent of the Augustinians and church housing the Sto. Niño.


Devotion spreads
From Cebu, the devotion spread throughout the islands where Christianity was accepted as faith. Sometime in the 18th century, the now-popular weekly Friday novena was introduced in Cebuano by Augustinian Fr. Mateo Diez who served as rector of the sanctuary from 1889 to 1893. The booklet was printed in Guadalupe (Manila) Asilo de Huerfanos in 1888.

The popularity of the devotion was of such magnitude that Fr. Juan Delgado, in the 1700s, commented that ''the island of Cebu ranks first in dignity on account of the miraculous image that set his residence in this island and which was found by the Spaniards on the first day of the conquest.'' Fr. Egidio Vivara, father provincial of the Jesuits in the Philippines, added in 1773: ''Sto. Niño is the most famous in all the islands'' referring to the Visayas and Mindanao.

The chronicles of the Augustinians recalled the miracles of the Holy Child, ranging from temporal to spiritual favors.

The first of the accounts of the miracles attributed to the Holy Child was written by Fr. Nicolas de la Cuadra, rector of the convent from 1698-1713, in a booklet along with several letters and prayers, titled ''Milagros del Santo Niño'' and ''Sermone Misticas.'' It was Father De la Cuadra who initiated the ornamentation of the icon with precious jewels and held solemn rites in its honor.

Other tales of the icon border on the subversive during the pagan years in which none was known about the whereabouts of the icon. The 44-year gap to the rediscovery of the icon has indigenized the Sto. Niño into the culture and religious beliefs of the natives who have reverted to their old ways with Magellan's death. Their animistic perceptions at the time the Sto. Niño was introduced were after all quite apparent.

Oral tradition has it that King Humabon of Sugbu worshipped Bathala, which interestingly, according to some interpreters, actually means Bata Allah or Child-God. This deity was supposed to have been naughty and would sometimes play pranks on its followers. It was sooty and had curly hair.

Thus, it would not have been too difficult for the natives to accept the Iberian icon; and for Queen Juana to tearfully accept the icon from Pigafetta, chronicler of the Magellan Expedition. This in part would explain the rather embarrassing historical postscript that recounts the presence of an icon of Mary at the bottom of the well, evidently discarded in disesteem, at the time the Sto. Niño was found.

It would seem then that within the so called ''pagan years,'' before the icon was reinstalled in its proper edifice and reclothed with the entry of Legazpi, the ancient worship of the Bata Allah kept by the natives, was evidently united with the Christ Child in the form of the Sto. Niño. To the natives then, the Sto. Niño was Bata Allah reconfigured.


Pagan myth
With this fusion of the personality of the native and Christian God in the figure of the Iberian icon came the tales that may have formed an oral tradition in Old Sugbu explaining the presence of the icon whose powers was recognized by the natives.

These tales later evolved with almost religiously subversive myths with the entry of Legazpi who restored the icon to Christian veneration.

The tales claimed the Spaniards stole the icon and wrestled the power of the Child-God called Salvador del Mundo or Ai Suno, found in the settlements of Bohol, Cebu and Mactan and renamed it the Sto. Niño, which is now celebrated all over the islands.

These tales may be explained as an attempt by adherents of the old faith to resist the change brought by the white men whose presence and belief system disrupted the existing religion, especially when they reclaimed the icon of the God-Child already revered by the natives as one of their deities.

Though claimed by the natives as their own, the Spaniards in Legazpi's time believed the icon was obviously of European features even though it was clothed in native garments called pinukpok.

Another tale emerged: Could it be also possible that an earlier mission by the Franciscans or a Chinese trading ship have brought over the icon, and hence the probability of a pre-Hispanic evangelization?


Powerful symbol
Whatever these claims are, the Sto. Niño remains a powerful symbol of faith both to the natives centuries ago and to the present-day converts.

People continue to talk of the touch of the powerful hand of that Little Child in their personal lives as ''when the lame walked, the mute spoke, the seafarer overcoming a storm and a fisherman getting more catch than usual, a leper cured, harvest crops were preserved from force majeure'' and other signs and wonders that have touched many lives.

Those stories of faith continue to be told far and wide, especially to those who feel shorn of miracles in their lives. They serve as a testimony to the power of faith. Many derive comfort from them and miracles are retold to all who believe with childlike faith in He who made His dwelling among men.
#2006
World Daily News / Re: NY nuns sue Pinay over 'tuyo'
January 15, 2009, 12:18:39 PM
Quote from: Lorenzo on January 15, 2009, 11:56:40 AM

Smells bad pero tastes so darn good.


smells good and tastes even better!
#2007
Quote from: Lorenzo on January 15, 2009, 11:04:41 AM
Considering the growing American hostility towards illegal immigration--I wonder what the American view is towards possibility of Philippine Assimilation.

i'd wonder enzo if there's one!
#2008
World Daily News / Re: NY nuns sue Pinay over 'tuyo'
January 15, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
sakto ka dong, lami jamu ng buwad balibalihon sa suka nga nay siling labujo! unja, nay scrambled egg.
#2009
Photos Unlimited / Re: Ampalaya Mo Diha Peeps
January 15, 2009, 10:48:49 AM
magasamok samok sa ko ha?

wa may lami ang palija. nganung mag agwanta tag tun ana nga pait man. kanus-a pa man ta mukaon ug lami, ana ug gakangokango na ta?

kaon tag tambok sa baboy mga sano/sana. lol
#2010
Bohol Latest News / Re: Bohol Buys Coaster
January 15, 2009, 10:28:32 AM
mao ba bro? basin gikawat na ang aircon ana. toinks
#2011
World Daily News / Re: NY nuns sue Pinay over 'tuyo'
January 15, 2009, 10:16:08 AM
baho daw raq!

it stinks!
#2012
Photos Unlimited / Re: Ampalaya Mo Diha Peeps
January 15, 2009, 10:14:42 AM
two thumbs up kiamoy
#2013
World Daily News / Re: Israel Troops Enter Gaza City
January 15, 2009, 09:38:14 AM
its avoidable had israel not attack gaza.
#2014
Quote from: buwadsanga on January 15, 2009, 09:13:03 AM
tambaw kono na sa hubak Lay!

hoy buwad, pagbasa sa mga posts sa taas! lol
#2015
ang original nga sto. nino sa valencia nas kimbento gitaguan kay uso kawat ug antique religious images sa ato. murag twice na nakawatan ang valencia parish.

every friday though igawas and magpahawok sa original nga sto. nino sa ato.

in cebu, nangutana ko sa curator sa museum, ingun sya kanang nas kilid sa simbahan mao ng original. she said, "nga itago man ang sto. nino nga para man sya sa mga tawo"
#2016
sad to say mdb and ayessa, murag wala na sa tb ng ecunemism, religious tolerance and respect.

at least kabalo na ta run.

let's work on that guys!
#2017
World Daily News / NY nuns sue Pinay over 'tuyo'
January 15, 2009, 08:34:45 AM
NY nuns sue Pinay over 'tuyo'
By Cristina DC Pastor Philippine News Updated January 15, 2009 12:00 AM 

NEW YORK â€" It may be a cultural thing, but when you’re up against a congregation of nuns and your neighbors in an apartment building in Manhattan, a lawsuit would make an interesting anthropological study in ethnic tension.

The Missionary Sisters of Sacred Heart (MSSH) in Manhattan has filed a complaint against a Filipino-American couple, Michael and Gloria Lim, over a Filipino delicacy called tuyo (dried fish), and its funky cousin, the tinapa (smoked fish).

The case is now with the Manhattan Supreme Court.

Reports say Gloria was smoking fish outside her apartment window when the smell â€" noxious stench to the nuns, divine aroma to the Lims â€" of the salted fish wafted throughout the Gramercy apartment building.

The “foul smell” was too strong the nuns suspected it was coming from a decomposing body and called in the Fire Department.

According to reports, the firemen searched every unit of the building and were able to trace the source of the smell to the Lims’ unit.

They knocked, and when no one came to the door, the NYFD came barreling in.

Gloria, a nurse, found her door knocked down and was obviously peeved.

It appears the MSSH leases the unit to the Lims and may have authorized the assault.

“I cook dried fish,” Gloria defiantly declared to the NY Post.

The average American may find it puzzling how one can derive pleasure of the palate from dried fish. Foodie Andrew Zimmern, who has been to the Philippines and braved balut (fertilized duck egg with an embryo) and Soup No. 5 (bull’s rectum and testicles soup, believed to be a powerful aphrodisiac), might be able to share the gustatory experience.

Gloria was referring to the tuyo, a Philippine staple usually eaten with steaming hot rice and fresh tomatoes. Some eat theirs dipped in vinegar and crushed garlic paired with fried rice and sunny side up egg.

Dried fish is not a Philippine exclusive. It is an essential in the traditional Chinese and Malaysian fried rice along with chopped spring onions, garlic and chili. Sometimes, it is pulled and sprinkled on chocolate porridge or champorado.

Food with a strong salty taste like tuyo or tinapa might be too intense for the morning stomach, but many Filipinos would never leave for work in the morning without having it for breakfast.

In the lawsuit filed by the nuns, Gloria was even more adamant. She was quoted as saying that “she is causing the smell by cooking and/or smoking fish, and she is going to continue to do it.”

The complaint appears to divide the apartment tenants, some finding themselves squarely on the side of the sisters who find the smell “potentially dangerous to life and health,” and some defending the FilAm family’s right to eat their own ethnic food in the privacy of their home.

“This is plain racist,” comes a shout-out from a supportive blogger.

The complaint says some tenants closer to the Lims’ unit have moved out, and that the Lims have been warned repeatedly about the smell emanating from their 16th floor apartment unit. Gloria, a 30-year resident of the US, denies this.

Which side to take, undecided tenants turn to what’s stated in the housing rules: Cooking smelly food is not allowed.

The nuns are seeking $75,000 in damages. They made it clear that they have nothing against Filipinos as a people.

#2018
hito man na catfish sa ato manay. kung baje ang hito, hita. mas lami kuno ingun nila. wa pa ko katilaw. LOL
#2019
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Valencianhons in UK
January 14, 2009, 03:30:22 PM
aw, master man nimu ang withdrawal ug tagay! LOL
#2020
General Topic / Re: National ID System
January 14, 2009, 01:07:09 PM
tanang pek naa man diri mdb. pek nga ilong, totoy, bil** ug uban pa. id pa kaha? passport ug uban pa kayang kaya na sa atong mga recto boys. kanang sa 2nd sentence, murag kinahanglan na ug belo or calayan.
#2021
hehehe no prob gel. murag naa na man pud thread diri sa tb nga naapil na nga issue.
#2022
mga igat ug mga uwagan gelyan! LOL
#2023
Quote from: ms da binsi on January 14, 2009, 12:41:24 PM
mas mahal ang tambal sa bu**** Calz. adto nalang sa food lami pa!

LOL (pirmi ra ka mabuang diri sa tb mdb)
#2024
basin taga abatan na!
#2025
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Valencianhons in UK
January 14, 2009, 12:42:59 PM
tambakan man unta to nya sementohon ang ibabaw. how did you know about culverts? tsk tsk tsk murag panglaki man gud na nga mga bulohatunon.
#2026
lisud na jud usbon ang ato mga naandan diri sa pinas jan.

mabuang man pud kung magpa-pasmo! LOL
#2027
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Valencianhons in UK
January 14, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
ang atbang sa among minteyo man gud mdb lawom. maglam-aw ug mag-uwan. labi na kung sa november kay ting-uwan, mudokot tawon ng mga sakjanan sa mga dato sa amo.
#2028
Photos Unlimited / Re: Ampalaya Mo Diha Peeps
January 14, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
yep!
#2029
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Valencianhons in UK
January 14, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
mga buotan jud. buotan pud na si engr. sam cajilog (2nd cousin ni asianfairy). sa dihang sa middle east (saudi i think) pa sya nagwork nagpropose pud ang mga valencianhon under his leadership didto nga tambakan ug sementohon ang atbang sa amung sementeryo. pero wa marealize ang iya proposal kay murag naambot. (di na ko familiar sa details)
#2030
bitaw, asia pud ako nahibal-an. basin nidako (i thought nangahilis?) na ang antartica gelyan kay ice man.
#2031
sakto ka mdb. daghan na culinary schools diri. just in case you're planning to send one of your relatives to such schools, be sure to enrol only in accredited institutions cause i heard of late that fly-by-night culinary schools are now mushrooming in manila and neighboring cities.

mahilig jud mukaon. mao na usa sa nakacrisis kay katulo mukaon plus na pay snacks. LOL
#2032
Valencia - Bohol / Re: Valencianhons in UK
January 14, 2009, 11:54:48 AM
kahilak man sad tag bundow nimu mdb.
#2033
Valencia - Bohol / Valencianhons in UK
January 14, 2009, 10:48:57 AM
Kinasingkasing nga nagpasalamat ang mga parokyano sa parokya ni Sto. Nino sa Valencia sa mga Valencianhon nga anaa na karun nahimuyo sa United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island nga gipangunahan ni engr. sam cajilog nga minghatag ug laptop ug multi-media projector para sa among simbahan.

Kudos mga sano/sana!

Kami nanghinaot nga ang Labawng Makakagahum kanunay maggasa ug maayong panglawas kaninyo ug sa inyong pamilya

Usbon namu, daghan salamat!
#2034
kapan diay ng tipaklong sa amo bnc.
salindanaw (alindahaw sa mindanao) or dragonfly sa english diay bout ako ipasabot.
#2035
World Daily News / Re: Israel Troops Enter Gaza City
January 14, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
Israel would surely get more than what they wished for:

A generation of men and women full hatred against the Israelites. And motivated/inspired with revenge against the "state" of Israel!
#2036
patay ka ini sa mga fil-am diri jan
#2037
wa ko kabalo ana glacier. carmen man ang baligja sa balay sa humay.

kumusta na kaha ang la hacienda run noh? tiglabayan ko ini sauna pero wa ko kadungog nag organic farming diay didto.

#2038
Photos Unlimited / Re: Ampalaya Mo Diha Peeps
January 14, 2009, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on January 13, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
hahahahahh!

bantay ha mag eb ta puro palija ang putahi...!

BTW i like your avatar!

i post daw na beh?

lami ng baka butangan ug palija ug black beans
#2039
iwon/iyon/bao/pagong/pong pagong mao ra na sila.

gamay nga pawikan nga makit-an sa kabasakan ug suba.
#2040
si edgar ang governor sa 2010 at si conching ang vice-governor.

(si zosimo calle ang congressman sa third district)
#2041
tambok-tambok bitaw apothecary. lami siguro sud-an kay na man daghan ikapalit sa ijag pagpangilad.

ipalitson na lang na sya oi. ipakaon ni kiamoy kay mahiilig tog pakals.
#2042
Philippine Daily News / Re: Cebu's Insanity Skyride
January 14, 2009, 09:01:12 AM
pila ang buffet kiamoy?
#2043
General Topic / Re: National ID System
January 14, 2009, 08:57:47 AM
sige kog pang haching diri sa allergy mdb. ahak oi.
#2044
tinoud ng iyon/iwon tambal sa hubak. adto pud na ibutang sa pasaw sa baboy kay tambal pud sa mga baboy.

sa gamay pa ko, na mi iyon/iwon. pinanga pa jud to namo kay murag buntis. saon, hubakon man ang among silingan/ig-agaw, ijang gipangajo para isud-an. wa koy nabuhat.

#2045
Quote from: janjan on January 14, 2009, 06:16:23 AM
kana kagang grazie mora siya alimango pero di man na sija sa dagat naa mala unja yucks kalood baho man na ako manghod mga alaki kay sege sila pamas-ong unja ilaa buhi-on pa pakan-on ug lubi unja after pila ka adlaw or week  ba isa pa nila kan-on para mawa ang baho pero sahay di man nila kan-on sad lingaw  ra nila unja kon naa sila kuha hatag nila sa amo silingan sauna nga perti ka addict ug kagang

well said janjan.

ang kagang magbuho na sija sa mala nga juta nga humok duol sa katungan ug kanipaan. amo dajon butangan ug pasgong (its an improvised trap made of bamboo) ang baba sa ijang buho para sija matrap inig gawas nija. sa bohol museum (ancestral house of the late pres. garcia, nay pasgong didto gidisplay)

humotan man ko sa kagang janjan. aside from lubi, pwede pud sija pakan-on ug sagbot. basin duol sa kasilyas ang kagang nakuha sa imung mga brother kay mukaon man pud na silag tae! LOL

kung kadali ka ug di kahuwat sa pasgong nga mutrap sa kaga
#2046
Kudos niceran54 and welcome to tb!
#2047
front page na si filipina executive chef sa philippine daily inquirer last weekend diri
#2048
Photos Unlimited / Re: Ampalaya Mo Diha Peeps
January 13, 2009, 05:41:54 PM
hehe mas lami jud bitaw ng imu recipe. kasuway mi ana pero wa ra pud namu gipractice kay mawa daw ug bili ang pag palija-palija.

lami pud ng palija kilawon!!! (unsaon na lang pagtun sa uban, depende ra jud tingali sa anad)
#2049
sociologist man gud grazie mao kabalo mulugar.

mura syag soft spoken paminawn nga dili. hehe

very down to earth.
#2050
hi ayessa!
#2051
kinsay kabalo mamasgong diri para makakaon ug kagang???

please reply asap kay gimingaw na kog kagang.

mag-istorya tag kagang diri ba!!!
#2052
kana bitaw liwas, tapos sa patay, wa man na sa bible.

i THINK (ahong icapital kay basin awayun ko kay kabout-buot ko) naa na nga mga tradition sa mga pinoy before the arrival of magellan nya gi-integrate na lang sa catholicism.
#2053
pirti! lata sa alpine lagi lagi bun-on ug tsinelas?

kaka jud ako paborito ug mamasgong sa kanipaan para makasuwa ug KAGANG!!!
#2054
mao jud. mao nay mahitabo sa mga absenot. dili kaapas sa mga lessons. majo untag nibasa pud sa thread. lol

peace el mundo and happy new year!
#2055
sa pabugnawa ang kamungay mdb ha kay luod. makasuka nuon ka. mao na nahitabo nako last new year. wa pa ko makontento sa usang tasang sabaw sa kamungay, nanungkab pa ko bugnaw na man diay ang kamungay, suka lagi. sayang jamo ang don enrique.
#2056
kinawat na naho mdb from a broadsheet. ako man to giapil ia name, nawa man pag paste na nako. anyway, the above article was written by Mr. Randy David, one of my favorite columnist in the Philippine Daily Inquirer along with Justice Isagani Cruz, Chief Justice Panganiban and Conrado de Quiros. Na pa diay si Michael Tan.
#2057
Photos Unlimited / Re: Ampalaya Mo Diha Peeps
January 13, 2009, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on June 26, 2008, 04:13:58 PM
ako kay akong pang ihumol ug asin ug suka for at least usa ka night gi slice na daan, unya pabukal ko ug tubig ibubu sa amapalya, pabugnawa una , dayon imong hugasan unya i drained jud maayo kanang wa nay tubig nga motulo, mawaa baya ang pait, i mean naay gamay pero di jud pareha sa wa pa nimo humuli ug asin. suwaye ra gud bulak lami lagi. inig gisa nimo sagoli pod ug tomato ug onion. yumyum tambal tambal baya pod ning ampalaya.

na pa kahay nutrients mabilin ini tamsi?
#2058
Quote from: grazie7y on January 13, 2009, 09:03:16 AM
hahahha offsetting diay ni calle ba?  naay debit ug credit.   ;D

tsk tsk tsk cpa diay ka grazie? debit credit man jud. na pud ko nahibaw-an, A=L+C! LOL

ngiga da!
#2059
afa mo lang! tsk tsk tsk bright pa jud!

rak en rol buwad!!!
#2060
The easiest thing in the world to do is to blame corruption on those institutions perceived to be primarily responsible for the morals of a society, namely, the churches and the schools. This attitude exaggerates the role of priests and teachers as determinants of the everyday conduct of individuals in the modern world. Why not blame the family instead, where one’s basic values are first learned? Or the mass media, which today command an ever-growing share of people’s time? Or, the leaders of government for failing to set an example of honorable conduct?

“We were the only Catholic country in Asia for 400 years. Please ask the bishops why we are the most corrupt nation. That should answer everything,” Rep. Rodolfo Albano III of Isabela province said in a glib retort to Archbishop Angel Lagdameo’s recent lament over the Philippines’ shameful reputation as the most corrupt nation in Asia.

The truth of the matter is that blaming the churches explains nothing. All over the modern world, the influence of churches has become more restricted. To the extent that they offer a sense of community, they may continue to be filled with church-goers. But, almost everywhere, churches have found themselves relinquishing their comprehensive hold on the lives of their members.

This is more than just a crisis of the churches. It signifies the universal decline of a generalized moral code that used to bind society together. Traditional morality has long taken a backseat to modern law. The voice of conscience can now hardly be heard above the counsel of legal technicians. Thus, nowadays it hardly matters anymore that something may be immoral; all that is important is that it can be shown to be not illegal.

This reality is a natural consequence of the growing differentiation of institutions in modern society. The boundaries between law and religion, between politics and the economy, and indeed between the public and the private, are constantly being negotiated in the nation’s basic law. This process is far from being smooth however. In societies like the Philippines, the transition to modernity has been particularly troubled. Our modern institutions have failed to operate properly because of the persistence of pre-modern values nurtured by gross social disparities. In the meantime, the old brakes on conduct are fading away faster than the new institutions could take hold in a rapidly changing society. The result of this is a kind of “pay-for-play” ethos that privileges the role of money and political power in the running of society.

Obviously, corruption is not a unique affliction of our society. Just as no moral system can prevent sinfulness, so also no legal system can totally stamp out criminality. And so it should come as no surprise that one of the most brazen instances of corruption involving a government official has recently erupted in the most modern society in the worldâ€"the United States of America. This is the case of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who has been accused of, among other things, trying to sell to the highest bidder the US Senate seat recently vacated by President-elect Barack Obama.

The activities of Blagojevich, a Democrat, have been monitored by government investigators for the last five years. Using authorized wiretaps and listening devices, agents pieced together conversations that painted a picture of this corrupt official’s unethical practice. The Washington Post reports: “As agents sat rapt at their listening posts ... the governor said he would use three criteria in filling Obama’s seat: ‘Our legal situation, our personal situation, my political situation. This decision, like every other one, needs to be based upon that. Legal. Personal. Political.’”

This is a fascinating quote. It sums up in exactly three wordsâ€"legal, personal, politicalâ€"the principal coordinates of a modern public official’s circumstances. The legal tells him what he can and cannot do within the limits of the law. The personal tells him what he needs to do. The political tells him what connections and resources he can deploy or leverage in order to get what he wants. Strikingly absent is any reference to what is right or wrong, or what his conscience commands him to do.

Blagojevich may be crude and brazen, and, in the words of US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, he may indeed have “taken us to a truly new low,” but the Blagojevich attitude toward public office is not exceptional. Many think it is the norm. Jack Shafer, who writes for the online Slate magazine, believes so: “If Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is immediately guilty of anything, it’s of making overt what other politicians make covert, and doing so while the wiretaps roll.” In short, what makes him different from the others is that he got caught.

This is not as cynical as it may soundâ€"especially not in the context of Illinois politics. The governor that Blagojevich succeeded is himself in jail serving a six-year sentence for corruption. Therefore what is truly interesting about America is not that corruption has persisted, but that the corrupt do end up in jail.

For, if one looks at the matter more closely, it will be clear to anyone who cares to see that the cure for corruption in the modern world is not to be found in hortatory sermons, moral crusades, or congressional exposés, but in the dogged pursuit of evidence and the honest-to-goodness prosecution of crooks. Obviously, this is only possible if the justice system is not itself compromised.

#2061
unsaon pag kuan kong nay period ang baje?
#2062
roy man lagi tawag nija sa ubang mga thread. kaingun ko nga laki sya. thought iya na igsoon, ko unta pangayuon number. hehehe
#2063
ambot buwad, adto ra ko taman anang kantaha. dili man na panahon naho. LOL

mdb is not in any state of pain.

sya lang painakagusgan mo buhakhak sa tb ug painakapalahubog sa mga baje nato.
#2064
ang ako tawagun ug nanay kay ang amo boardmate sauna nga daghan ug supplies, adto mi tig pangajuan/tighuwaman.

duha ako tawagun ug papa. ang papa nga father ug kadto bana sa nagbantay namu sa gamay pa ko. na pud ko tawgun ug daddy amo silingan nga ig-agaw namu. iya full name kay diosdado. LOL

na pud ko "ince" ig-agaw sa ako lolo.
#2065
kinsa ng na sa avatar nimu ayessa?
#2066
"lonely tagay just for one" diay ka run mdb.
#2067
PERIOD
#2068
General Topic / Re: National ID System
January 13, 2009, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: bol-anon_ko on January 13, 2009, 09:40:31 AM
ahaha magnetic stripe... mura nag ATM ug credit card... saman pwede sad ta mo withdraw ana? lolzzz

withdrawal na pud!
#2069
Quote from: grazie7y on January 13, 2009, 08:48:47 AM
calle, sa una bitaw sa bata pa mi kong naay mangaway namo, ingnon mi na tig Mommy2x unya ginamos man diay sud-an! hehehe

LOL mga dato bitaw magmommy sa amo. sorry ha, pero usa ko sa mga tawo nga hilasan magtawag2 ug mommy/daddy nya dili dato. pero dili man ko bully when i was younger. so i keep it to myself, until now.

cute kau ang nanay ug tatay grazie.
#2070
LOL

bikog or bikogan! usahay na ko makadungog ana run bro. daghan pa na sila dili na lang ko mu-enumerate kay murag dili man sad siguro endemic sa valencia.

Bil**s imung ina!
#2071
Quote from: tamislat on January 12, 2009, 04:14:05 PM
ug kanang computer nga imong gigamit diha, di ba sa opisina man na, unja oras pa jud sa tingtrabaho nga gibayran ta?

Start na ta...

patay ko ini da. sige, muundang na ko sa tb kay wa man ko computer sa amo! LOL

bitaw! everyday, mag overstay ko sa office until 630 pm nga unta 430 ra mi taman. wa ko magclaim ug overtime. wa sad ko meal allowance ha.

all in the spirit of public service.
#2072
hala! ako maninda pud ko ug mga candy ug mga kakanin sauna sa elementary pa ko.

mamaligja pud kog damang/kaka.
#2073
ahak ini. mga liveraid na ko ini
#2074
murag sa cebu nay manmade nga mga sand baligja.

bnc, asa gani na? murag sa carmen man siguro na. palit na lang mga taga alona adto.

the dredging, i think, is for the benefit of the beach owners. the government should not shoulder the expenses.
#2075
no problem, bro.
#2076
ang organic rice pa jud bolingitboy kay dili giniling sa mga galingan diha kay mawa ang nutrients kung commercial nga galingan gamiton.

gitagsa-tagsa tawn jud tog ukit.
#2077
Here's the blame game again! COME ON!

g***, it's so easy to blame the church!

But why not blame ourselves for doing nothing? For being cynical? For taking the can't-attitude? COME ON!
#2078
akoy magsamok-samok ini nga thread!

im for the dredging just for the heck of it! LOL
#2079
dato man siguro mo grazie kay mommy gud imu tawag imu mother.
#2080
profession?

budlay na!!!
#2081
Philippine Daily News / Re: Cebu's Insanity Skyride
January 12, 2009, 03:01:35 PM
sa florida daghan kuno na rides. im not sure kung sa miami ba or sa jacksonville.

(istorya ra man gud ko taman) (aw, starcity sad diay pud) (ek wa pa ko kaadto)
#2082
sugdi na sir balong...
#2083
Baclayon - Bohol / Peacock Garden
January 12, 2009, 12:27:51 PM
Wa lagi topic diri sa peacock garden diha sa laya?

Grabeha mga sano/sana. I never thought such kind of resort would rise in bohol.

Was there for dinner last xmas holidays.

Truly amazing!
#2084
piracy is very rampant in the gulf of aden. i hope and pray that the coalition forces will add more men to preserve whatever peace left in the region.
#2085
Quote from: hofelina on January 12, 2009, 06:57:09 AM
Adunay miembro dinhi maantigo mobarang? Komedya ra bitaw, pastilan looy ang mga nabiktima, kadto nangutang galing ug kwarta.

si buwadsanga manay kaliwat ug barangan pero murag dili sija maantigo ug barang.
#2086
LOL

grabeha gud. ako na koy mga manok ug pabo sa gamay binuhi pangkonsumo, ako man maoy muihaw. hehehe

pero akong manghod pareha mo, di jud mukaon sa manok namu.
#2087
Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on January 10, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
calls, nindot na kuno karon ang bandelion hill. ila na gani gi-rename to mt. carmel hill. wala nako makasaka didto dugay na. murag vice-gov pa sad siguro si eddie ato. kadtong nag date date pa mi sa akong asawa karon. adto mi saka didto usahay aron walay estorbo. hehehehe.
sa akong nahibaw-an base sa balita sa akong ugangan, concreted na ang dalan pasaka. nya gi renovate and stairways with matching design na kuno ang hand rails. unya gi renovate sad ang belfry ug aduna nay fountain plus a good comfort room for the visitors to use to relieve theirselves. naa naman gani kunoy 24 hour roving guards to check the area for vandals.

patay! mag-unsa kaha si bnc sa belfry. mingaw ra ba sa taas. salindaw ug tipaklong (unsa ra to binisaya ana bay?) ra jud imu testigo unsa mahitabo didto.
#2088
Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on December 19, 2008, 11:31:38 PM
no wonder mas daghan ug malls ang alturas kay sa mga uy.

ang mga uy man tag-iya sa alturas bnc.
ang bq mga ong, ig-agaw sa mga ong-lim family sa valencia (conching lim is concepcion ong-lim)
#2089
Quote from: bol-anon nga cebuano on December 19, 2008, 11:18:46 PM
with regards to vandalism, i think dili man siguro na ang way pagsumpo ana. bisan pa ug mo present ug receipt ang tawo basta vandal na siya, iya gihapon na buhaton. maypa ilang ibutang sa gawas nga gidili ang pagdala ug ballpen ug markers ug ubang pang pwede ikasulat sa sulod sa CR. rikesahon ang mosulod.
aside from that, nganong ang marcela wala may need ug receipt kung musolod sa ilang CR?

nya, kung isuksuk nako ang ballpen sa ako brief be? lol
#2090
Quote from: ms da binsi on January 12, 2009, 05:46:34 AM


Calz, akong dugangan imong libog ha?

sa amoa naay Zamboanga del Norte,  Zamboanga del Sur, naa sad Zamboanga City!

wa ko galibog ini mdb kay i've been to dakak in dapitan.

by the way, karun naa nay nadugang ang zamboanga sibugay, ipil ang capital
#2091
Quote from: Raquelproud boholana on January 10, 2009, 04:04:18 AM
Wa lagi ko karemember anang asin dako hehehe.Sa fourth year sad ko naa mi baka gi alimahan unya magdali gyud ko uli sa skwela kay mamakiro dalang pamayabas.Ako gyud to pinangga ako baka kaila gyud siya nako kay bisan layo ko kung malabyan nako si Lady Aphelp(name sa ako baka) kay mo mooo jud murag nag ingon ug Hi nako siguro na feel to niya love nako siya kay ako gud to hungitan ug pakaon sa sagbot.Gi spoil to nako kaayo ako baka.

hilak ka raq pag ihaw sa baka?
#2092
nay bag-o nga tourist spot sa batuan, ang "balay sa humay". funded by phil-australian community assistance and supported by the lgu headed by mayor pepito.

nay organic rice didto from its neighbor, carmen. yummy!

pero mau unta ug native ilang manok iserve sa sunod, dili broiler or white leghorn. lol

(i suggest they improve their menu) lol
#2093
just let me know if you plan to visit valencia. i may be of some help.

kudos.
#2094
unsay valencia style nga bihon dong?

ang tugnos lami jamu kilawon!

ang bolinao lami pud, ajaw hugasi ug tap water. adto hugasi sa dagat para lami.
#2095
Quote from: alfonso_potane on January 09, 2009, 04:58:57 PM
julius herrera lang ko...

bay companyahon ti ka for edgar and conching! hehe
#2096
halos tanang thread adto jud mulagpot sa things relative to the withdrawal of the male organ.
#2097
maninsiyo si cesar sa kwarta ni conching! LOL
#2098
mao nay problema ni aumentado st. agnes kay:
si conching nga soud nija magvicegovernor ni edgar.

na syay utang kabubut-on sa mga herrera kay nidaog sya sa calape nagkontra sila ni rene.

murag nay political arrangement adtong pag-atras ni cesar last 2007 as governor, instead nangusog si aumentado nga si cesar masud sa lineup sa team unity for senator
#2099
i first thought that nasaag ang post by sir felix. kita man diay nawa!

mga sano/sana: the belief of one true religion, ang topic sa thread. i think reiteration na ni sa post ni buwadsanga.
#2100
nice to hear bay. i thought bias lang ko ni edgar-conching kay taga valencia si conching.

im happy to know that there are people like you who are of the same opinion.

thanks bro.