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Messages - grazie7y

#12201
Bitaw, mura pod Bohol.   Simply beautiful.
#12202
That a model Filipino!  No amount of success and material comfort can make him feel settled in a foreign land. 

By the way, when is he running for the senate? 
#12203
gina akip na ninjo Maring ug exhibit sa mga vintage cars?  Naa na dre sa park sus ka chada sa mga sakyanan.  Naa pod vintage car sa among silingan.  One time ingon sya, let's go have lunch one time using this car. hehehehe  Sige daw sya singgitan, Cool Momma! if mag drive sya ana na car and she's already 75 years old! :D
#12204
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Mga Tinouhan..
March 27, 2008, 04:59:49 AM
Quote from: B:) on March 27, 2008, 03:31:46 AM
Hala oi, aha man ang mga tubag :(

Or Kinsa may makatubag aning perting kadaghan naman nga pangutana.

I must say thought nga some of them, nabuhat man nako ug kalooy sa Dyos dili man tinuod.

Para nako lang ni ha, I trust my Faith lang gyud. Kay para nako Ginoo ramay nahibaw.

Beth, I think there are no answers to these questions because most are just rhetorical bordering foolishness lang ba. :D
#12205
Facts and Trivia / Re: Can You Rhyme?
March 27, 2008, 04:56:36 AM
work:  artwork, clerk, jerk, quirk, smirk

next word:  clear
#12206
Love Talk / Re: Our friends should be
March 27, 2008, 04:53:13 AM
Quote from: B:) on March 27, 2008, 03:08:37 AM
I agree everyone.

Just would like to add a little more.
Friend should be more understanding, unselfish and thoughtful.

Beth, thank you for being a very understanding friend to me (re package :() and for being so - not just unselfish for so generous and so thoughtful too to me! :-*
#12207
Love Talk / Re: Our friends should be
March 27, 2008, 04:51:29 AM
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 27, 2008, 02:51:28 AM
Quote from: grazie7y on March 21, 2008, 01:46:39 PM
Korek, Swaks!  Tiaw ba pod nang friend nato na imbis malipay sa atong pag asenso, masakit na hinuon!  Dapat, friends should encourage friends to be the best that they can be! 

I've had former friends that were like this to me and my friends. Ma sakit pood atong dughan to think about it pero naa jud ang tawo ing ani. Lain pood na sila, we can't do anything but pray for them.

Agree, Dong!  We need to pray friends like this not for our own benefit but for themselves. This is an extreme case but I have a friend who is in deep financial mess because she's been borrowing money to keep up with her other friends who are a bit successful.  We should always remember Desiderata.
#12208
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
March 27, 2008, 04:47:27 AM
Bag o lang nahurot akong leftover bihon! heheheeh  Amo man nang family dinner.  Wa pa gani nabutang diha ang famous grilled steak na giluto ni Uncle Ray and also grilled halibut.  Simple ra among dinner but fun unya wala kaayo daghan leftover kay kapoy kayo sige'g panuksuk sa leftover after kaon.  We had bihon leftover and a little salmon.



Here's our Easter basket: cookies with the white chocolate bunny in the center courtesy of one of our dearest TB members. ;)
#12209
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 27, 2008, 04:38:06 AM


My dinner lastnight and lunch too today! ;D  Unsa man ni beh?
#12210
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 27, 2008, 04:34:21 AM
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 27, 2008, 02:41:20 AM

What is this?  ;)

Sweet and Sour Fish or what we call in the Phils. Escabeche!
#12211
Quote from: B:) on March 27, 2008, 03:03:19 AM
kalami ana nga cake oi :)

Thanks, Beth!  Intawon oi na unsa naman tawon tong gi order nimo asa na kaha to napunta oi! 
#12212
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
March 27, 2008, 04:30:15 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 27, 2008, 03:51:51 AM
Si Smiffy looked like the Chiquita girl, kadtong brand sa Chix-Mex nga saging?
nag lukdo ug fruits!

go Smiffy goooo!

mao na ang kinakusgang pancit ni Tia Edna?

Maring si Hapon galuto anang bihon unya pareho sila'ng lami mangluto ug pancit. hehehe
#12213
Facts and Trivia / Re: Can You Rhyme?
March 27, 2008, 12:45:35 AM
systematize:  dramatize, chastise, allies, theorize, despise

next word: atrocious



#12214
Introduce Yourself / Re: Picture of Yourself
March 27, 2008, 12:40:01 AM

Alyssa and Hapon playing around while preparing for your Easter family dinner


Hapon slicing cheese for the appetizer and to go with the wine


yours truly tasting the food on the table ;)
#12215
Facts and Trivia / Re: Can You Rhyme?
March 27, 2008, 12:30:59 AM
system: anthem, thyme, rhyme, item, symptom, problem

next word:  brunch
#12216
accolade
#12217
Dimiao - Bohol / Re: jati jati an?
March 27, 2008, 12:17:41 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 25, 2008, 01:23:35 PM
paita sad ana oi! tinuod jud ang name? or nickname ra na?

hahahahhaha

Hahahha unlady-like kaajo ang name imong friend, Gem!  Pero basin funny girl ni Ijot so game ra pod sya sa iyang name.  I bet naa sya'y option to use it or not. hehehehe
#12218
happy man kaha ka diha? 
#12219
saltiness
#12220
good luck, Bem!

By the way, naa ba moy annual appraisal?  Pwede pod diha nimo i discuss.
#12221
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Picture of the day
March 26, 2008, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 26, 2008, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on March 26, 2008, 05:18:40 PM


Kita na ba mog de color nga kabaw?





Birdie dear, that was so nice of you, thanks for posting,

mga bading ning bakaha? hahahhaha

Lingawa gud ni mga colors sa vaca sa Aussie land! hehehe Tits, naay kabaw diha na PINK? hahahaha
#12222
ila pod na isulti, Bem kay apil man na sa remuneration package.  Unya kanang ilang additional pay based on quota, motivating factor man pod na.  Like you na naa sa Sales, if all of you receive the same salary, dili na mo matter if you work harder or not but then again ang uban mao nay basihan sa merit increase.  So para safe, give your best na lang jud sa imong work. 
#12223
kink
#12224
Swaks naa koy browni recipe from Ina Garten/Barefoot Contessa na pirte kalami pero malurong lagi sa kadaghan sa chocolate kaso lang dako ni nga batch.
#12225
dominated
#12226
sa mubo'ng lubi
#12227
Quote from: kiamoy` on March 26, 2008, 11:30:58 PM
ahh.. mahadlok man gud ko mutabag or give figures kay basin trap lang.. cge lang.bext time .. ill use this post as reference :) ^^

usually if naa na kay exiting na job, ilang i ask pila imong sweldo dayon they will see if they can at least match that especially if you impressed on them that you are a superb worker.
#12228
Unya mag call lang ko na ipakuha ni Oto san ang inyong bahin sa nilusak saging! ;D  Dream on! But oi mahitabo ra kana pohon i bless na ni Lord!

Good night, Aya san! :-*
#12229
Calape - Bohol / Re: Nagdugong Santo Intero
March 26, 2008, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: orChids on March 26, 2008, 11:29:45 PM
Matulog sa ta.Have peace in your heart,be patient,respect others,and love your mankind.

Good night guys.

Mao pa gani pagmata nako, Aya san!  Pero bitaw matulog ko'g balik.  Ga arat akong tutunlan.  Sana di ko madutlan sa colds unta allergy ra ni kay ga bloom na mga flowers sa kakahuyan dre.  Good night, Aya san!
#12230
Yehey, kalami ana na time, Aya san noh?  Sus, hatud2x na lang ta sabaw or tinunuan monggos ani pohon maluoy Ginoo!   :D
#12231
Calape - Bohol / Re: Nagdugong Santo Intero
March 26, 2008, 11:27:08 PM
Okay, can we resolve this issue by agreeing to disagree?  Lahi-lahi ta'g points of view in regard to this matter and it seems like this is becoming a bottomless pit.  Let's just respect na lang pod ang pagtuo sa uban.  And if ang uban di ga tuo, dili lang pod ta mapikon.  To each his own. 
#12232
Quote from: orChids on March 26, 2008, 11:09:53 PM
Basta ang akong cake jod Grazie san.Ayaw baya kalimti ang design. ;D ;D
Quote from: orChids on March 26, 2008, 11:09:53 PM
Basta ang akong cake jod Grazie san.Ayaw baya kalimti ang design. ;D ;D


Aya san, Pohon pohon!  ;D
#12233
Quote from: mench on March 26, 2008, 02:40:25 PM
te ging,gi-save gyud nko sa computer ky mao intawn tan-aw-tanawon nko..plan nko moanha unta aron patudlo nimo pro ambot ug sugtan pa ba ko molarga oi ky mako na buaw ako tiyan,hehehe...barato bya unta plite te oi!

bitaw che naa nay direct flight from your city to sacramento.  hala dire.  unya na lang naa nay baby aron duha imong dalhon pohon.
#12234
Quote from: kiamoy` on March 26, 2008, 10:12:24 PM
hahaha mao jud,. pro ate graz, lisud man demand.. or kani nalang..when man pwede mo mention jud ug figures?



Dili man na ga demand Bem kay nag ask man kaha unsay gi expect na sweldo. The interviewer should tell you upfront pila ang sweldo, and if dili, ask them jud.  They know man you work for the money.  If gamay ra sweldo, ask pod dayon how regular is the salary increase and on what basis.  Is it longevity or performance.  Maayo na klaro daan.  But I think naa pod na sa employee handbook dayon ihatag sa inyo but maayo na ma ask na daan sa interview pod.
#12235
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 26, 2008, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: svetlana on March 26, 2008, 04:03:01 PM


and what's this?!


Mura man ni'g cioppino oi! Pagkalami ba gajud!
#12236
toughest

#12237
She answered the toughest question truthfully but she messed up with the easiest one that doesn't involve hurting her husband. 

His husband is so cute! :D
#12238
drolled
#12239
Haze, record breaker ba ni si Bem sa pinaka paspas? :D
#12240
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on March 26, 2008, 02:19:04 PM
daoy, d man pareha tan awon sa kang ginger, lami tan-awon sa pics pero ambot lang ug lami ba nga tinood, basin naikog lang akong bana nisulti sa tinood.



lami kaayo tan awon oi!  lami suyupon ang sauce na pinapaka!
#12241
May the joy of God's resurrection be in our hearts all year round! Happy Easter, my Tubag Bohol Family!
#12242
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on March 26, 2008, 02:12:50 PM


mao ni hehehehhe.
akong gibutangan ug capsicum kay moangay man ako bana.

Wow that looks good and yummy!
#12243
Lechon Paksiw, Tits! ;D

Bahal day ingon ni Shei! :D
#12244
dehydrated
#12245
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 26, 2008, 02:12:49 PM
buko salad!
#12246
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 26, 2008, 09:03:43 AM
Quote from: bulak on March 26, 2008, 06:11:44 AM
Naka pose pod ko og apil. Dalang pangilad kay unsaon nga ihas man pod og camera tawn ning iyang JULIAN.







Ay Bulaklak! nice dear...

very nice!

Nice kaayo bitaw, Flower!  Feel nko comfortable kaayo ang baby boy nimo!
#12247
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 26, 2008, 05:11:22 AM
I love it!

Ger, i like the second pics...

"There Is Something About You" in that posing!

I can see maternal instinct in that second picture, Haze!
#12248
trait
#12249
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 26, 2008, 01:55:41 PM
sus makit-an ni ni Bambi ug Dakog Itlog mag balak jud to sila!

pssst! asa naman tong balak nilang duha oi!



Nahanaw lagi na si D.I. ba?
#12250
yum and dugo2x,  if ako mismo ang maghinlo ug magluto otherwise di ko mokaon. heheheh

Puto Cheese

OT: Si Ginger to Tita Birdie nag tudlo nimo sa mushroom dish.
#12251
not so yum but definitely not yuck. :D

kalabasa jam
#12252
abracadabra  ;D
#12253
hippopotamus
#12254
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on March 26, 2008, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: mench on March 25, 2008, 04:06:20 PM
:)dia pa pics sa cke nga gnahan kaayo nko nga gigama ni ate ging...gusto gyud ko kabalo unsaon pghimo ani oi ;)



Hayy maibog man pod ta aning mga cake nga gipost ninyo oi, PAgkasmarty jud ning atong igsoon dinhi sa Tb nga si MS.D. Nindot akong himoong BG sa MUlti daghan jong maibog.

Aguy, wa nko na diparahi na gi grab dihay ni nimo Che?  Two years ago ning birthday cake for Tia Edna and the Thanksgiving Cake was from three years ago! 
#12255
apparel
#12256
polvoron tong ilang gipalabay, tita birdie?  basin ka ingon nila cocaine to gi disguise as candies! ;D
#12257
Na unsa na ni dre?  I haven't contributed to this thread before but judging from the title, this is supposed to be a fun thread.  ngano naman ni naay conflict ani?  Mura man ka gisapot, Slackware?  Nah, Shei, ayaw na lang patuli.  Taas kaayo ang thread if I start from the very beginning what caused this bad tones but sana end na ni or else, ma lock na pod ni na thread.  Padayon na lang mo lingaw-lingaw dre na thread, okay?
#12258
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Picture of the day
March 26, 2008, 12:56:33 PM
Quote from: orChids on March 26, 2008, 12:49:28 PM
Who sent me this card?How I love the color!My day is very bright jod labi na sa message nga maka kirig-kirig,hahaha.Muahhhhhhhhhhhh daghang salamat dear.Love yah too.                                     



                               

very pleasant kaayo ang color combination ani na card, Aya san!  Thanks for sharing with us!
#12259
dwindled
dramatized
drugged
decompressed
#12260
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ang Bench Ni Tiya Gracia
March 26, 2008, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 26, 2008, 09:01:23 AM
Quote from: orChids on March 26, 2008, 08:36:37 AM
Kani bench nga nikaging pa.Facing the lake of ice.Ready,mangkingkod na ta.
                                       
                                                                     





Aya san, very pretty!

very charming!


profoundly charming!
#12261
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ang Bench Ni Tiya Gracia
March 26, 2008, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: orChids on March 26, 2008, 08:36:37 AM
Kani bench nga nikaging pa.Facing the lake of ice.Ready,mangkingkod na ta.
                                       
                                                                     

Oh my goodness, Aya san, so beautiful!  I hope wala na ning kaging nang mga birds diha!  Salamat, Aya san! mwah
#12262
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Ang Bench Ni Tiya Gracia
March 26, 2008, 08:29:40 AM
Wow!  thank you so much, Maring!  Very nice kaayo!  These pictures warm my heart.  Beautiful and real!
#12263
Facts and Trivia / Re: Can You Rhyme?
March 26, 2008, 08:25:50 AM
elite:  wallet, palette, donate, eliminate

next word:  shape
#12264
Quote from: Vito Andoline on March 25, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
sa akoa pud nalimot man ko sa mga questions  sa interview.ako nahinumduman ila panguta how much salary r u expecting from the company.ako tubag its up to you sir.dayon bungat mao ni,ah pagbungat pa lang layas dayon ko kay gamay ra ang gi offer.lol


bueng ka Adz!  Ingon ka "it's up to you, sir" unya di man diay ka ganahan sa offer.  Dapat mo specify jud ka unsay imong expectation in terms of salary.
#12265
Wow!  That's really good!  It could have been 2494 if I was online earlier but counted pa man skguro ko karon. heheheheh thanks, Macks!
#12266
Ning greet na ba ka nako, Adz?  Or, mao na imong greetings nang "good luck"?  Salamat, Ads!
#12267
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Picture of the day
March 26, 2008, 08:01:02 AM
Quote from: Ginger on March 26, 2008, 01:51:04 AM
Quote from: mench on March 25, 2008, 04:16:54 PM
te, musta na you oi? ngkakita mi nong lindy gahapon sa park, dugay nman diay mi kaila ana niya,hehehe


nagpa picture unta mo.

Lagi Che, pa picture unta mo ni Manong Lindy!  Wow bay, grabeh jud ning TB, nagka kita2x na jud ang mga Bol-anon!  Tubag Bohol makes the world small!  Naa nay dugay Tito si Ondoy diha in Manong Lindy! 
#12268
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Picture of the day
March 26, 2008, 07:58:05 AM
Quote from: smiffytheninja on March 25, 2008, 04:05:23 PM


10 straight hours of studying chemistry = tired Alyssa  :'(

Hello Babe!  I still have to download the pics from Happy Easter family dinner. 
#12269
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on March 25, 2008, 11:32:35 AM
grazie naa ba kay rcipe sa Polvoron ug yemas?

Tita Birdie, I don't have my own recipe but when I made yema, akong gi google.  Hagu tong akong gibuhat na yema kay diha pay caramel coating oi!  Sunod, asukar ra akong i dredge kay mas dali ra.  Same sa Polvoron naa sa google.  Sige lang mangita ko for you.
#12270
Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Bohol Vacation Pictures
March 26, 2008, 07:49:30 AM
ug unsa na pod imong gi OKhan, Ads? ???
#12271
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 26, 2008, 12:13:46 AM
haha, everytime I try to throw things away, my mom will be like, "hoy na hoy na hoy! gi ahak ba ka?! ambi na bi, i hatag na nato sa pilipinas!" LOL. Even old clothes, shoes, books etc, she refuses to throw them away, instead she collects and buys things for her relatives in the Philippines. Nothing is ever wasted in our house.



Nalingaw ko'g basa imong message, Dong!  So you know the "ahak" thingie ha! heheheh

Maring, same here.  Murage is the one following my stuff na iyang ilabay.  When Aya san sent me stuff,  I really wanted to keep the newpaper ads used to wrap but boy, Murage threw them away! What for daw!
#12272
Facts and Trivia / Re: Can You Rhyme?
March 25, 2008, 03:53:37 PM
lonely:  lovely, lowly, happily, meekly, gingerly, gracefully

next word:  jasmine
#12273
Oh, I am pack rat when it comes to boxes and wrappings from gifts and notes I received.  I could cry when Murage threw the newspaper ads which were used to wrap the gifts I received recently.
#12274
Si Gemma na tigbalantay ug maka break ta sa atong record.  Thanks, Gem! :D
#12275
That's pure orange juice, Pon noh?  Kuyawa Pretty Bird oi murag korek dah!
#12276
super yum!

silvanas?
#12277
depressed
#12278
ali na! ;D
#12279
shortness
#12280
you know you are always welcome here.  sige kay at least kaila namo ni Hapon karon so mag bonding pod ta pohon.
#12281
Question and Answer / Re: Unsay Imong Gikaon Karon?
March 25, 2008, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 25, 2008, 10:24:48 AM
bitaw mao jud!

Tiya, mas lami ra jud ang monggos ni Vito!

hahahahha

Ah monggos ug buwad ni mr. bean.  Lagi pero before nko siguro ibutang ang buwad na bolinaw, mag kuha sa ko'g usa ka jahong para akong a kamayan. hehehehe
#12282
Quote from: ms da binsi on March 25, 2008, 10:21:42 AM
Quote from: LanggamTamsi2 on March 25, 2008, 04:09:10 AM
Quote from: grazie7y on January 16, 2008, 05:17:39 AM
hahahaha intawon pod nimo Blaue!  Isa na lang sa Golden Gate na dayon next chapter na pod unyang gabii.









Aguroy kaalegre ba ninyonng duha oi, Bisan duha ra mo , alegre man mo tan awon day, Very happy family jud. Sa kanindot ninyo tan-awon grazie puydi akong kawaton ang pics ninyo? Mga angayan jud mong duha tan-awon diha, PAgkanidot pod sa mga view, How i wish i can afford to see other part of the world, hmmm maybe one day, basin diay makadaug kog lotto. well done mga guapita nga bol-anon. Anyway thank u ha, kay kon wa pa ka mag messages nako d ko kita aning inyong mga posing. TAnki jud 100x.





Birdie dear, that was a memorable eyeball jud. I still can feel until now that im riding the boat from Callejo to SF.

Tiya, we should do some reinactment! hahahahhaha

one day, mo anha ra man ko balik but ill go straight to Sacramento...kanang di ko mag dali!



Sige Maring dretso na lang dre mag pinobre gud ta.  Yes, that was a fun-filled day jud!  No baggage, no fuss, no arte. hehehe
#12283
strapless
#12284
Nice and fun-filled kaayo inyong vacation, Els!  Thanks to Ms. Bambi for letting me know about this thread!
#12285
hash

Catholic
#12286
I agree with you, Jang. Anywhere you go there's risk but I don't think ana na jud ka hadlok sa ato. 
#12287
Philippine Showcase / Re: Loboc Children's Choir
March 25, 2008, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: lindy on March 25, 2008, 05:37:06 AM
The Loboc Children's Choir will perform in Renton IKEA Performing Arts Center @ 400 S 2nd St. Renton Washington 98057 this coming April 20, 2008 @ 2:00 - 4:00 pm.

Sayang di sila mo lahos dre sa Sacramento.  They were here naman daw years ago. 
#12288
Quote from: kiamoy` on March 25, 2008, 07:51:30 AM
dah. clueless sa patatim..hehe.. basin palang na pasajan or alimango.. no comment. ;)

Pork leg na sya Bem na giluto until so tender na matanggal na dayon sa bone ang meat.
#12289
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 08:01:07 AM
good night bem! hehehe kay matulog na gud ka!  sige, see you later, my dear!
#12290
Swaks, maayo man pod na maglikay ka.  Dili man kaha diabetic imong bana so bake lang.  Dali ra na.  If ready na la, let me know I am willing to help you bisan start lang simple para malipay pod banana nimo ba. ;)
#12291
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:55:09 AM
hala sige kodaki didto sa carenderia.  naa diay na sa cebu, bem?
#12292
not so yum.  I like sardines but not with pechay.

Patatim?
#12293
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:47:42 AM
hahahha matingala na lang taga carenderia mo adto ka didto para mag take lang ug pictures.  Basin Bas-oy na Bem ha? ;)
#12295
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:44:36 AM
Chinese Wonton Soup or otherwise known as Pancit Molo Soup
#12296
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:40:06 AM
Quote from: kiamoy` on March 25, 2008, 07:37:40 AM
yihiy :) hehe.. it's not common jud. when lolo serves it.. almost all will ask if what ni.. lol lol

ate ginger. wa kay apil ani ha..kay u know this by heart

mura gani molo soup ni dear.
#12297
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:35:11 AM
Unsa man kaha ni ha?  It is a soup or a stew.  It may be a Chinese dish.  This can't be egg drop soup.
#12298
LGU Philippines / Re: Expensive Fish
March 25, 2008, 07:31:50 AM
Quote from: B:) on March 25, 2008, 06:26:19 AM
O my tulingan, please don't go away. When I come back, please be there for me, I miss you so much. You're my favorite!

I love tolingan Beth especially inun-on but I can't just eat that fish as I wish.  Nalanag nako ana na unta fresh man to kaayo. 
#12299
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:26:34 AM
hehehe ning lili ra gani ko dire dear kay namalantsa ko.  mo dish, please! :D
#12300
Facts and Trivia / Re: Name That Dish
March 25, 2008, 07:24:17 AM
sinigang baboy