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Messages - lawrence

#1
Bible Study / Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
March 12, 2010, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 03:02:03 AM
On the contrary. There is nothing 'Blind' about Faith.

Let's get back to Scripture Study.

wow. this is a good study. if we can't explain, let's move on to the next topic.

by the way, is it your own understanding that is being discussed in this study or other people's understanding?
#2
Valencia - Bohol / Re: VALENCIA POLITICS
March 11, 2010, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: fongxz on March 11, 2010, 11:21:28 PM
Walay lain nga makatabang o makapa-usab o makapalambo sa lungsod sa Valencia kundili ang mga Valencianhon mismo.Tinood,in terms of monetary arsenal lisod pildehon ang naa sa pwesto karon.Ang pagkahiusa sa mga taga Valencianhon lamang maoy armas para sa kausaban.


it's a dream. and will always be.
#3
Quote from: Koddi Prudente on July 25, 2009, 11:33:35 AM
Dimiao: Gallur, Madjus, Magadan, Agaro, Acuram, Baliling

Madrio is also from Dimiao.
#4
wth!!!!

this makes bisrock cheap!!!  Because of songs like this and people patronizing it!!!
#5
Bible Study / Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
March 11, 2010, 02:55:12 AM
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 02:50:23 AM
FAITH, my dear Lawrence.

:)

God Bless You.

NO.  that's what we call BLIND OBEDIENCE.
#6
Bible Study / Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
March 11, 2010, 02:47:37 AM
Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 02:35:21 AM
Addendum,

Lawrence, one must also take into consideration that one has to be sensitive in language forms. We have to understand and accept that the compilation of scriptural work and many words and expressions were altered in its translation into English. From the original Greek.

As the original was in Greek, then translated into Latin, and then into other languages: English, French, German, etc.




Then how would you believe in such book nga daghan naman diay na alterations?  Sa ato pa diay your reference is not acceptable based on your predicament.  Why find the hassle of understanding a book that has lots of alterations?

Maccabees is only for Bibles with deuterocanonicals and not present in all.
#7
Bible Study / Re: Bible Study: Tubag Bohol Version
March 11, 2010, 02:28:29 AM
Pero asa man ang purgatory ani?
Unless the God you are talking about is a God of assumptions.
Also, vhinz asked if where can we read the word "purgatory" and not where can we read the meaning or assumed to mean of the word purgatory.

Quote from: Lorenzo on March 11, 2010, 02:15:11 AM
God Bless Your Question, Vhinz.
First let me thank you, brother, for joining our conversation and discussion.
The question that you ask was asked because the Holy Spirit,who lives within your body (as our bodies are the Temples of the Holy Spirit) directed you to this discussion to have a better / firmer grasp in the concept of Salvation and the means to Salvation. So I want to thank you for 2 things:
1. Your joining our faithful discussion here
2. Your question regarding Salvation, and specifically on the concept of Purgatory.

That said, Let us Talk. :)

But before we discuss this, let us usher a prayer for the Holy Spirit to OPEN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS to accept and be directed by His Instructions. To Understand Effectively and Faithfully: Lord, guide us our hearts and minds to bear and understand the things that we wish to learn, in faith and assurance that you will provide for our needs in this holy venture. We ask This in Your Name, Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God The Father. God The Holy Spirit open our hearts. In Jesus Name. Amen.

~~~



The Roman Catholic Church teaches us , brothers and sisters, that :
“There is a purgatory, and the souls there detained are assisted by the suffrages of the faithful, but especially by the most acceptable sacrifice of the altar” (Promulgation Council of Trent).

And it was in the Council of Trent that all Biblical passages and books were augmented and united under one book. So by authority of the Lord God that was placed in the hands of the Early Church Fathers, compiled the Holy Bible in its Complete Form. And with it, the addressing that there indeed is a state of Purgatory. By Authority and Legitimacy that the Church claims from Jesus Christ, Alone, who placed it on the shoulders of the Church by Apostolic Succession of Peter's Chair.


This dogmatic definition contains 3 points of faith that all Catholics are required to believe:

1. There is a purgatory

2. After death, souls suffer there for their sins

3. The living can extend assistance to such souls


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There is a purgatory



Forgiveness of sin in the next â€" Matthew 12:32

“Under the earth” â€" Revelations 5:2-3; Philippians 2:10



After death, souls suffer there for their sins

“You will not come out of it till you pay the last penny” â€" Matthew 5:26

“Matthean Parallel” (See: Matthew 18:23-35)

“Lazarusian Incident” (See: Luke 16:19-31)

Spirits in prison â€" 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6


The living can extend assistance to such souls


Restrain not grace from the dead â€" Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 7:37

See: Ruth 1:8

Offerings/Sacrifice for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:38-36

“And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection” (2 Maccabees 12:43, Douay-Rheims Bible).


Fasting for the for the dead

1 Samuel 31:13;

1 Chronicles 10:12

2 Samuel 1:12


Prayer for the dead

2 Maccabees 12:44-46

“It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins” (2 Maccabees 12:46, Douay-Rheims Bible).


See: Nehemiah 1:4-6, cf. Nehemiah 2:5


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Understanding Purgatory:


1. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands knowing the nature/attributes of God:

God is Holy (Habakkuk 1:13; Isaiah 6:3; Revelations 4:8; Leviticus 11:44

God is Just (1 John 1:9; Revelations 15:3)

God is Merciful (Psalm 116, Lamentations 3:22, Psalm 103:8 )

See: Ruth 2:20

God is Love (1 John 4:8, 16)


2. Understanding the doctrine of purgatory demands a proper understanding of the concept of sin:


Gradation (degrees) of sin

Mortal Sin vs. Venial Sin (1 John 5:16-17, NRSV)




#8
I want Manny to lose not because I don't like him but because of the asungots around him.
#9
Quote from: statesville on March 09, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Though getting a degree and passing the board are the key points to get a job
   but as usual our country the Philippines are putting more graduates than the market demands.
Going abroad is  the only options for those who gets lucky in making it through
   the required exams.

With today's economy in a shaky grounds, the Health care jobs are also at halt.
Here in the hospital in the U.S. where I work, they freeze the hiring since last September
   while waiting for the outcome of the Health Care plan that is still ongoing in the Senate.
Many workers in this hospital went to school while working to become RN's but no jobs
   for them after making it through, that they have to leave and look somewhere else.


   

exactly.  ang problema sa pinas is init pa gani ang usa ka kurso, hala patuyang sad ang eskwelahan.  for example, Benedicto computer college ang school before but now they are Benedicto college when they opened nursing. why? Way back 1990s, halinun man ang computer grads mao pasipala sila ug dawat ug computer students. Then karon halinun man daw ang nursing grads, mao na sad ila.  Even Informatics has nursing.  Bisan pa kahibalo sila sa reality nga less than 50% sa nursing grads ang makatrabaho and only 10% out of the 50% ang makatrabaho sa medical field and almost 75% percent end up as call center agents.
#10
Is this the passing rate? If so, then that is not a considerable data to name one school as best.  Best is a preference.
Did the PRC also include the employment rate of these graduate in relation to their course?  I guess not.
#11
But still, it all depends on the Consul.  No matter how many truck loads of proof you have, if the Consul feels you are not worthy or maybe a future liability of US, dili jud ka hatagan.
#12
Philippine Education / Re: need to upgrade
March 08, 2010, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: beyotch on March 08, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
what i mean is the way the instructor presents their lesson to their students..some of them are just copying lessons to the black board with out explaining, then jump into another topic without knowing whether their student understands or not....some of them limit their aids to the books that they've got in their hands...and hope they conduct educational tours to attain a more conducive place for learning...

well, that is not so high school for me. I mean I didn't experience that one in my high school.
You can actually send a letter to the dean or whoever is in charge.
#13
Music and Video / Re: When You're Gone
March 06, 2010, 02:22:20 AM
Matchbox Twenty - If You're Gone

Matchbox Twenty - If You're gone

I think I've already lost you
I think you're already gone
I think I'm finally scared now
You think I'm weak - but I think you're wrong
I think you're already leaving
Feels like your hand is on the door
I thought this place was an empire
But now I'm relaxed - I can't be sure

I think you're so mean - I think we should try
I think I could need - this in my life
I think I'm just scared - I think too much
I know this is wrong it's a problem I'm dealing

If you're gone - maybe it's time to go home
There's an awful lot of breathing room
But I can hardly move
If you're gone - baby you need to come home
Cuz there's a little bit of something me
In everything in you

I bet you're hard to get over
I bet the room just won't shine
I bet my hands I can stay here
I bet you need - more than you mind

I think you're so mean - I think we should try
I think I could need - this in my life
I think I'm just scared - that I know too much
I can't relate and that's a problem I'm feeling

If you're gone - maybe it's time to go home
There's an awful lot of breathing room
But I can hardly move
If you're gone - baby you need to come home
Cuz there's a little bit of something me
In everything in you

I think you're so mean - I think we should try
I think I could need - this in my life
I think I'm just scared - do I talk too much
I know this is wrong it's a problem I'm dealing

If you're gone - maybe it's time to go home
There's an awful lot of breathing room
But I can hardly move
If you're gone - baby you need to come home
Cuz there's a little bit of something me
In everything in you