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your right its been at least 2 pages since we heard from her j.f.m  im intrested in what chona has to say next ... if i was a true friend i would be making sure i was defending them all the way and trying to help them prove everyone wrong but all she seams to be doing is digging a hole ??

fingers crossed ... please give us some good news 

to ning 10 there is no reason for you to be writing and attacking steve ... why would anyone want to go over to where their friend died already being there once before and having there life put in danger !!!!! .... and you should be very carefull with your choice of words as it sounded like you were throwing threats at him which makes you look like the fool ...i think alot of people are miss reading as we are not fighting for his money and assets we are fighting for the truth and justice for our friend as he no longer has a voice !

to steve keep up the fight for justce for martin all his friends have your back x

thank you kay and sian its nice to know that he had lots of friends and i totally agree with all you say ....
welcome to this chat

welcome rosie and thanks for your contribution and thoughts well said

chona i know there is two sides to the story as with every thing but i do not for one minuet belive the stuff you are writing its a joke never has martin been violent to anyone  man or women so i dont no why you feel it to bring it up now that he is dead and can not have his say ... why did she marry him if this was the case and if your such a good freind why did you not help her like any true friend would ?? if any one of my friends had been miss treated like you tell it i would of dragged her away to safety and got the police involved from the start !!!! and now to try and bring more rubbish up saying " he wouldnt even pay for his baby,s med's " that is just scrapping the bottom of the barrell and childish ...

thanks newbie you took the words right out my mouth !!

chona can i just correct you about martin's two daughters in the uk ... he loved them very much and always spent time with them when he was aloud to, yes martin and his first wife did break up and did have disagreement about the children on occasion as do many couples in divorce ....but he would do anything for them i know this because i spent alot of time with martin and his daughters who are two beautiful well behaved polite girls who loved there dad very much...
as for his other daughter the baby he was so proud to be a dad again and told all his friends how happy he was....
As for his love of money yes martin did love making money and had many ideas for business that was just his way but he would also be the first person to help out his friends if they needed it ...this does not make him a man to be hated just a man with a very wide imagenation.

to jenny i dont no how close you were to martin and his wife but in all the years i have known him as well as his other close friends not once has he been violent to anyone he never had it in him to be violent even if a fight broke out in a pub he was the first to step back and get away from the situation..than to jump in on it !!!!! so i find it so hard to belive in what you are saying???.... rape never ever would he do such a thing EVER!!!! i dont for one minute belive any of these allegations made towards him ....and if im correct he was cleared of all charges of rape after his death

yes martin is dead and should be able to rest in peace but his friends and family are not going to give up on him and getting justice for him ,As for appointing blame by taking qoutes out of context EG "steve said" and "this person said" This is like playgroud gossip!  Fact martin has been buried ...! Fact martins parents wishes were to bring their son home by way of cremation ...! so please can we just let the police do their jobs without this hearsay.

you are right i know i will not give up on him or deal with my feelings till this matter is over and i know his family will never rest ever untill we get him home no matter how long it takes !!! how can they say good bye its not fair dragging this on but they are and all his friends are very strong willed so will fight till the end for him .

well kim 96 thats what we all want to know ! can any one answer this

some one who has no sole thats who steve ... there is more feeling in a block of ice .. and any one who can do what she is doing is no human being!!!

i am so deeply upset by this whole thing martin was my friend and i know that it is breaking his familys hearts to not have him home to lay him to rest and say good bye to there son ,brother, dad and uncle ... as well as truley good friend ....i keep waking up thinking it is all a bad dream and then i read more about his case ...i am truley heart broken that i will never see my friend again and feel sick with this thought . rest in peace martin you had more true friends that you could ever imagine and we will forever miss you and my loving thoughts go out to all his family and friends
rachael xxx