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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 09:08:35 PM »
aber... ;D ;D

duha ra diay, ice... ag ikatulo...hehehe

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 09:14:19 PM »
Politics is the struggle for power and influence.  Questions like this one is a political question which goes back to the question, is there a political struggle between men and women?

Would women get pregnant without men? or at least a male sperm donor?  Would there be boys who would grow up to be men without women bearing them in their wombs?

If our existence depends on each other, why ask a stupid question?

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 09:16:03 PM »
We are hostages of our own kind.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 06:48:45 AM »
duha ra diay, ice... ag ikatulo...hehehe

apil na lang ta sa bisan asang dapita, wind, wala o too...aron dili lisud iihap. hahaha

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 06:53:59 AM »
Politics is the struggle for power and influence.  Questions like this one is a political question which goes back to the question, is there a political struggle between men and women?

Would women get pregnant without men? or at least a male sperm donor?  Would there be boys who would grow up to be men without women bearing them in their wombs?

If our existence depends on each other, why ask a stupid question?

you are right in your opinion.
if this question is stupid, why bother answering?
if there's an opinion to further deepen a more lucid answer, why make it a political question when it is not.



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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 06:57:16 AM »
depende kung unsa ang imong gipasabot og "rule" ug asa nga dapit...

dili pod mangugat nang uban og tubag...lol.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 07:23:16 AM »
depende kung unsa ang imong gipasabot og "rule" ug asa nga dapit...

dili pod mangugat nang uban og tubag...lol.

world man kuno colliers.  bitaw ba di unta mangugat. kon di feel ang question, di na lang motubag. ana na lang unta.

who rules the world?  although men and women can not live without each other, men man jud ang nag rule karon.  well, sa pagkakaron ha? tan-awa ang G8, unsay ratio sa babae ug lalaki na leaders diha?  or di na lang sa G8, sa tibuok kalibutan kay world ra ba gi ingon ni glaciers, di ba majority sa leaders/rulers lalaki? 

kon sa atong nasud na pilipinas, kana kay atong kamahalan didto kay babae but if we talk about world, my answer is men. pero kon mo ingon sa among panimalay, ah lahi na akong tubag ana. hahaha

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 07:27:51 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 07:42:49 AM »
world man kuno colliers.  bitaw ba di unta mangugat. kon di feel ang question, di na lang motubag. ana na lang unta.

who rules the world?  although men and women can not live without each other, men man jud ang nag rule karon.  well, sa pagkakaron ha? tan-awa ang G8, unsay ratio sa babae ug lalaki na leaders diha?  or di na lang sa G8, sa tibuok kalibutan kay world ra ba gi ingon ni glaciers, di ba majority sa leaders/rulers lalaki? 

kon sa atong nasud na pilipinas, kana kay atong kamahalan didto kay babae but if we talk about world, my answer is men. pero kon mo ingon sa among panimalay, ah lahi na akong tubag ana. hahaha

indeed.

someone has to take the charge.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 07:53:37 AM »
indeed.

someone has to take the charge.

Korek ka dyan, glace! 

Kadumdum lang ko sa college, nag present ko'g report sa English man siguro to or Sociology ba to entitled The Notion of Male Superiority.  Nah, na ala-an na lang hinuon ko'g man-hater!  But anyway, whether or not feminists do not like it, wa jud tay mahimo kay Men rules the world.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 05:38:25 PM »
you are right in your opinion.
if this question is stupid, why bother answering?
if there's an opinion to further deepen a more lucid answer, why make it a political question when it is not.



It is not made political, because it is on its nature a political question.  If you have affirmed that it is indeed a stupid question, why bother posting?  And how would you seek a lucid answer to an insane question?

Logically inconsistent.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 05:40:35 PM »
Korek ka dyan, glace! 

Kadumdum lang ko sa college, nag present ko'g report sa English man siguro to or Sociology ba to entitled The Notion of Male Superiority.  Nah, na ala-an na lang hinuon ko'g man-hater!  But anyway, whether or not feminists do not like it, wa jud tay mahimo kay Men rules the world.

You cannot even recollect which subject was that?  There are different languages discourses in sociological studies.

I would suggest, before I open my mouth I will do some readings.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 05:45:51 PM »
Grazie,

Have you ever made some readings that the pre-colonial Philippines is a matriarchal society and patriarchy only came along with western colonization?

I find it sad when women are disempowered by their ownselves, not by men.

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 05:53:05 PM »
It is not made political, because it is on its nature a political question.  If you have affirmed that it is indeed a stupid question, why bother posting?  And how would you seek a lucid answer to an insane question?

Logically inconsistent.

How do you classify a political question?  It is a political question when there is a "struggle for power".  In this sense, there is a struggle for power between men and women who should rule.


Are definitions clear now?

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 05:54:01 PM »
Bye, pips, I have bigger kingdoms to rule.  Good luck. hahahaha

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 06:04:47 PM »
The family is the smallest unit of society.  I love my husband though.  We never discussed who rules at home.  We have arrangements and we do our chores separately.

I am not a feminist. I am not a man-hater.  I love men, my father, my brothers, my husband, my baby boys.., my male friends.

Kung mag sugod man gud kag pangutana kinsay hawd sa panimalay, adto magsugod ang problema.

I just say, it is an unnecessary question, because in the end our existence depends on each other.

and to Kiris, dili literal and meaning sa world!.... hahahahaha!!  ang panimalay Kiris, gamay na nga "world". mao na imung world. di ba?

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 06:41:52 PM »
Bye, pips, I have bigger kingdoms to rule.  Good luck. hahahaha

uban ko, rose. :D ;D

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Re: Who Rules The World: Men or Women?
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2009, 08:30:47 AM »

wala'y mo rule oi. even the most powerful man or woman. may it be gay or lesbian.

only God has the power to rule. ajaw namo pag lalis.

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2009, 09:55:51 AM »
Every great man was born from the womb of a woman.

The great Augustus Caesar, was born from his mother: Atia Balba Caesonia

even our saviour, Christ Jesus, The Only begotten Son of God The Father,
was born from a humble handmaid, conceived without sin: Mother Mary of the House of David.

All are equal, in my book.

I love my mother, and I would not be alive without her guiding hand. She suffered so that I, her son, could come out into the world.

All our mothers bear such price. Remember that.





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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2009, 01:54:59 PM »
I actually agree to those who said we are all equal.  I was just being specific kinsa ang nagdumala sa atong world.  In my world, I rule and in my husband's world, he rules, but in both our world, we both rule!   ;D  Kumbaga, eguales!  Ingon nya, ako daw ning rule pero di gani, kami ganing duha! But for sure we both respect our opinion.  At times we may not agree but as I kept on saying here in TB, when we don't agree on certain issues, we agree to disagree.  That's why we have such harmonious world!

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2009, 02:10:41 PM »
I actually agree to those who said we are all equal.  I was just being specific kinsa ang nagdumala sa atong world.  In my world, I rule and in my husband's world, he rules, but in both our world, we both rule!   ;D  Kumbaga, eguales!  Ingon nya, ako daw ning rule pero di gani, kami ganing duha! But for sure we both respect our opinion.  At times we may not agree but as I kept on saying here in TB, when we don't agree on certain issues, we agree to disagree.  That's why we have such harmonious world!

Ese es porque le admiro. Usted habla tal brillantez que emane de su mente. Mi hermana, le saludo. Y le acaricio, ABSOLUTAMENTE!!

Ja, Ja Voy!


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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2009, 02:16:26 PM »
In regard to my comment as reply to Glacier's comment, as quoted:

Korek ka dyan, glace! 

Kadumdum lang ko sa college, nag present ko'g report sa English man siguro to or Sociology ba to entitled The Notion of Male Superiority.  Nah, na ala-an na lang hinuon ko'g man-hater!  But anyway, whether or not feminists do not like it, wa jud tay mahimo kay Men rules the world.

that has generated unnecessary reaction from guadalrose, as quoted below:

You cannot even recollect which subject was that?  There are different languages discourses in sociological studies.

I would suggest, before I open my mouth I will do some readings.

and:

Grazie,

Have you ever made some readings that the pre-colonial Philippines is a matriarchal society and patriarchy only came along with western colonization?

I find it sad when women are disempowered by their ownselves, not by men.


and all those times, I kept my silence.  and then, he or she wasn't happy yet, he or she sent me PM, her subject line:  of course.  Full text of her PM I quoted below:

Ma man-hater gyud ka kung dili ka lingi-on sa ubang lalaki tungod sa kabati sa imung nawung!  Kung daghan kag kwarta pa retoke nalang para dili naka ma man hater. peace.

I was careless not to see her other pm, as quoted:

pasensya na ha. going over board ko.

so I replied her earlier PM:


Hello guadalrose,

Thanks for your compliments.  Di lang ko pa retoke kay ako na lang ipakaon sa mga nagkinahanglan if ever naa man ko money kon makuha na nko akong winnings sa lotto.  :D Mao man ni gihatag sa Ginoo and I have this notion that I am so beautiful although di lang makita sa mga tawo like you.  God blessed me with such beautiful heart that makes me beautiful.  Bahala'g feeling beautiful lang gud basta kinasingkasing, di patago.  Basaha balik, I didn't say I was man-hater, i love and respect men in my life and I am equally respected by men too.  Pero unsaon man mao ra pod gi abot sa imong panabot.

Just so you know, Holy Week karon so gamay ra ning imong pag biay-biay compared sa nadawat ni Lord so I will graciously take it. hehehe  God bless you and your whole family na unta di sila maka hinagbo ug tawo pareho nimo makipanghimaraut.

Grazie



Then she replied:

Bitaw no Lenten season ron.  pero ayaw pag hypocrita kay dili ka santa.  basin laing langita ka padulong.

Unsa diay porma sa imung heart nga beautiful?  kinsay ga ingun nimo? inyung mga silingan?

Pangutan- a kuno silag usob beh.. lets stop this na oi. 

Pag minyo nalang, para ang mga laki ang mo rule sa imung world... ang pangutana , kinsa kaha?

And that's all the story. I didn't reply anymore.  I realized I was not in her level so di na lang ko mosaka sa iyang level. 

To you guadalrose,  real peace be in your heart.  :) Kay ako, comfortable na man ko sa akong nawong . ;D Do I think I deserve your panghimaraut, no but lahi=lahi man jud ta'g upbringing gud. So yan lang.   :)






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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2009, 02:23:34 PM »
You cannot even recollect which subject was that?  There are different languages discourses in sociological studies.

I would suggest, before I open my mouth I will do some readings.

She can open her mouth whenever she wants to. She made a logical question that goes in line with the dialogue she was having with Glacier.

There is no need to be harsh with individuals.



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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2009, 02:36:42 PM »
Grazie,

Have you ever made some readings that the pre-colonial Philippines is a matriarchal society and patriarchy only came along with western colonization?

I find it sad when women are disempowered by their ownselves, not by men.

First and foremost, she was recollecting her presentation in college regarding the notion of male superiority, and in the scheme of things, in the political echelons that governs society at this moment, it is still the men that rule politics, though it is undoubted that women and women's rights have championed the cause of equality.

Clearly there are instances of limited rights for women, per se in religiously centeres societies such as the Theocratic governments in the Middle East where Shariah laws are still enforced (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Oman, etc).

As modernization continues, so too will the rights of womenkind divulge in the world stage, and such notions of male superiority indeed needs to be extinguished because both men and women are equally efficient and able.

Idealistically speaking, aside, we need to take into consideration our own current epoch; and the rights of women are still in uneven ground as to that of men, men still rule the world, in a sense since most politicians in international body politic are still men. Most of the military are still composed of men.

And oudoubtedly, it is so since the beginning of man kind, the history was written by men, revolutions were forged by men, armies were led to battle by men. Though, true, there are instances of matriarchial societies, albeit the fact that it is a limited case.

Most of South East Asia was patriarchal society. The Deva Rajas of the Khmer Empire were males, governers were men, the Kings and Princes of Siamese Kingdoms (Ayuthaya, Sukkothai) were all males and women were largely regarded as possessions in times of war and conquest.

In the Hindu-based Sri Vijayan Empire (to which the Philippines was part of), was mostly a patriarchial society, and so too was the Majapahit Empire, both of which were Malay Kingdom-Empires.

Tokugawa Japan was also patriarchial, so too was Koguryo Empire of Korea, and so too was the 5,000 year old Chinese dynasties of the Zhong, Han, Tang, Yuan, Ming, Qing. The Confucian culture of East Asia is based on the notion of male superiority.
It is based on the character and notion of Filial Piety--to which the concept is heirarchical, and within that hierarchy, the man is above the woman. That concept stresses that as the Emperor bows before the will of heaven, so too does the king bow before the authority of the emperor, and the citizens and civil servants bow before the king, so too does it transfer such relationship in the microcosm of the family life. So too was it expected that the wife bow before the husband, as the children bow before the mother. And in nature even; the grass bow before the authority of the wind.

I know the intelligence of Ms. Grace, and she meant to say that. :)

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2009, 02:45:50 PM »
Ate Ging, in times like these and in such confrontations, my advice lang is to pray for them.

Reading the things she posted, I can only refer back to scripture:

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."

-Luke 6:27-28


Bless You Guadalrose! And a blessed Palm Sunday~

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2009, 02:56:53 PM »
Ate Ging, in times like these and in such confrontations, my advice lang is to pray for them.

Reading the things she posted, I can only refer back to scripture:

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."

-Luke 6:27-28


Bless You Guadalrose! And a blessed Palm Sunday~

Exactly, Dong!  I was thinking, maybe he or she has bigger issues than the "ugliness" of my face.  I posted his or her PMs to me so people will not be surprised to receive demeaning messages from him or her if we happen to not agree with his or her opinions about different issues here.

Thank you so much, Dong!

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2009, 03:04:06 PM »
The Lord Jesus Christ told us to forgive each other, especially in Holy Week we should all remember the sacrifices of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ate Ging, you were not in err, you should not have to apologize at all.

Always, I will be here.

God Bless You, 'te! Holy Week na raba pood~



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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2009, 05:36:18 AM »
Thank you so much, Dong, for your kindness and gentleness.  I am in constant process of cleansing my heart with pain brought about by people I don't even know (even if I know their names  ::)).

As I said to guadalrose or to the person behind this username, I wish him/her real peace in his/her hearts... especially at this lenten season.

God bless you and your family too, Dong. 

Love you,

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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2009, 06:11:32 AM »
aguy ni tilibag-bag man ni si guadalrose, all i can say is miss grazie is boutan gud maski dili me silingan maski wa pa ko ka meet nija personally

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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2009, 09:34:36 AM »
ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL!

way labut ang baji ani... you know wat i men!

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« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2009, 09:48:44 AM »
Thank you so much, Dong, for your kindness and gentleness.  I am in constant process of cleansing my heart with pain brought about by people I don't even know (even if I know their names  ::)).

As I said to guadalrose or to the person behind this username, I wish him/her real peace in his/her hearts... especially at this lenten season.

God bless you and your family too, Dong. 

Love you,

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This is why I am drawn to such good personalities in here. It is the kindness of your heart, Ate Ging, that I find very similar and identical to that of my own mommy.

God Bless the Boholana woman.

The qualities of love, family-oriented, christian outlook and motherly-ness.

I love you, Ate Ging. Happy Holy Week pood sa imung pamilya. Maluuy atong Ginoo sa atong mga sala ug ang mga sala sa tanan.

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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2009, 11:17:58 AM »
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Find out on the you tube, who rules the world.

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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2009, 01:12:52 PM »
ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL!

way labut ang baji ani... you know wat i men!
ahahahaa mao!

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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2009, 02:06:05 AM »
and to Kiris, dili literal and meaning sa world!.... hahahahaha!!  ang panimalay Kiris, gamay na nga "world". mao na imung world. di ba?
kasabot man ko ma'am. please don't be so sarcastic, we are just sharing ideas.

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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2009, 02:32:08 AM »
Kiris, you are a bright and intelligent mind. Don't let rude people affect you.

Keep on posting here in Tubag Bohol!

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 04:12:58 AM »
it's okay, lorenzo. i am fine. i was just shocked how capable she was in humiliating grazie7y. i'm just new here and i admit i still have a lot of things to learn in this forum.

let's continue the discussin and move on.

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 04:18:06 AM »
it's okay, lorenzo. i am fine. i was just shocked how capable she was in humiliating grazie7y. i'm just new here and i admit i still have a lot of things to learn in this forum.

let's continue the discussin and move on.

There is so much beauty in this forum, kiris, there are personalities in here that will brighten your face. Don't let a little horn affect your outlook in a beautiful orchard garden.

Come, let us pick flowers. :)

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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2009, 05:36:43 AM »


And that's all the story. I didn't reply anymore.  I realized I was not in her level so di na lang ko mosaka sa iyang level. 

To you guadalrose,  real peace be in your heart.  :) Kay ako, comfortable na man ko sa akong nawong . ;D Do I think I deserve your panghimaraut, no but lahi=lahi man jud ta'g upbringing gud. So yan lang.   :)

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Hi Boc! I was just able to read this thread and the discussions posted. You are right by way of  not answering to the comments of this lady.  If she could be a lady she will not write such stupid descriptions towards you.  You need not to be upset and explain to those kind of person whom doesn't even know you at all.  I know you, you are a beautiful, kind hearted and  intelligent enough to understand any illiterate aggressor, right?

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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2009, 05:48:22 AM »
it's okay, lorenzo. i am fine. i was just shocked how capable she was in humiliating grazie7y. i'm just new here and i admit i still have a lot of things to learn in this forum.

let's continue the discussin and move on.

Hi kiris!

Welcome to TB.  You  need not to be worry about the personal insult towards  Grazie7y.  She is a real lady and smart enough to understand others who shows their ignorance.  Keep on posting!  There are still members who cares not because of your physical appearance but your personal disposition.

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