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New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« on: November 28, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »

New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 01:19:37 PM »
i hope we also do it vietnam's way, which is not to stamp the entry/exit of these passports.  a separate sheet of paper to be attached to the passport will do.

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 01:27:21 PM »
the fallout of the new chinese passport
(as reported by radio australia at http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/)

VIETNAM:  Vietnamese border guards are refusing to stamp entry visas into controversial new Chinese passports, which feature a map of Beijing's claim to almost all of the South China Sea.

Vietnam has said the computer-chipped passports violate its sovereignty, and has demanded Beijing withdraw the documents, which show the contested Paracel and Spratly Islands as Chinese territory.

"We do not stamp the new Chinese passports," said an official at Hanoi's Noi Bai Airport, the country's main international gateway.

"We issue them a separate visa."

A border guard in northern Lang Son province said they were also not stamping the new passports, but issuing separate visas to Chinese arrivals.

Even with the new passports, however, "Chinese citizens can still travel normally through the border gate," the guard added.

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 01:32:47 PM »
INDIA:  India has started stamping its own map onto visas issued to Chinese visitors as the map shows the disputed border areas of Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin as part of Chinese territory.

PHILIPPINES:  Manila, which claims part of the Spratlys, sent Beijing a formal protest letter last week, calling the maps "an excessive declaration of maritime space in violation of international law".

TAIWAN:  Taiwan last week protested after China started issuing the new travel documents with maps featuring two of the island's most famous scenic spots as part of Chinese territory.

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 01:36:15 PM »
UNITED STATES:  The United States plans to raise the controversial new passports with Beijing, saying the documents were not helpful.

"We do have concerns about this map, which is causing tension and anxiety between and among the states in the South China Sea," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

"We do intend to raise this with the Chinese," she said, adding the new passports were not "helpful to the environment we all seek to resolve these issues."

Ms Nuland said the United States would accept the passports as a valid travel document, as it was up to countries "to decide what their passports look like as long as they meet international standards."

But she argued the look of a document was different from "taking steps that antagonize countries that we want to see a negotiation happen with".

more at http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/2012-11-28/vietnam-wont-stamp-chinese-passports-over-sea-claim-map/1052830

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 05:07:21 PM »
I find China's method of staking its claim not only cute, but effective. Cute, because we cannot go to China without our passports being stamped with a map of Chinese territory claiming property which belongs to us under international treaty agreements; effective because it riled our government into sending a note verbale which highlighted our inherent weakness by our failure to produce a show of force to back it up.

But two can play that game; or what's sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander. What's to stop us from playing it cute and from having our own visas re-designed to include a map which stakes our claim to the West Philippine Sea? We're as sovereign as China and short of bringing a complaint up to the United Nations (which they are loath to do because the U.N. has already recognized our claim to it in the "law of the seas" international agreement) all that they can do is send us a note verbale which will be as weak as the one we sent them.

-excerpt from Bottom Line by Andy H. Hagad,
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/bacolod/opinion/2012/11/26/hagad-two-can-play-game-255173

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2012, 05:32:24 PM »
kong ikaw gid si ms imigration madam isles tatakang mo gid hang passport sang intsik sama ni bay bogsay :-\

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2012, 05:39:58 PM »
tatakan ko gid sa map of bohol, basta bolbs ang passport holder.

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Re: New China's Passport Covers Philippine Territory
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2012, 05:45:26 PM »
tatakan ko gid sa map of bohol, basta bolbs ang passport holder.

te pinalangga mo gid sila madam.

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