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How long should a ruler stay in power?
« on: September 14, 2008, 01:07:03 AM »
How long do you think that someone who wields power in a state should stay in office?

In the USA, under normal circumstances, the President can stay in power for only two terms.

This usually means that he can stay in power for up to eight years.

Hugo Chavez is trying to change the constitution of Venezuela so that it is legal for someone to stay in office for unlimited terms.

So, what are some of the opinions here on how long should the ruler stay in power?

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 04:56:26 AM »
Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.



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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 09:13:52 AM »
here in the phils enzo, 1 term lang ang President pero 6 years tenure..  the framers of the 1987 constitution believed that a total of 8 years in office is too long and the a term of 4 years is too short (as in the american system).  i think the american set-up is better kasi may reelection after the first term.  which means that the incumbent president has to work doubly hard or face defeat in his reelection bid. 

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2008, 10:22:51 AM »
for life is okay if hes a good and fiercely honest leader! that would bring peoples good trust to the goverment and prosperity!!!

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2008, 11:31:26 AM »
familiarity breeds contempt buwad... madugay, mutobo jud sungay..

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2008, 11:40:22 AM »
not if your honest as if an honest to the truest meaning of the word! FOR LIFE KO!

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2008, 11:56:39 AM »
na, asa kaha ta mangita ana buwad? na ba nas mangnan?

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 11:08:46 AM »
Fact:


Every ruler who declares himself to be Absolute Monarch for life dies by the hand of his own subject or is dethroned. Every ruler in every epoch in every culture.

To name a few;

Julius Caesar, murdered by his own senate on the day of his rise to position of Pro Consul or Dictator for Life

Genghis Khan, the Mongol Emperor who would not stop conquests eventually died on way to battle.

Louis XVI

Napoleon Bonaparte

Adolf Hitler

Francisco Franco

Benito Mussolini

Ferdinand Marcos

Suharto

And the list goes on.

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 12:05:34 PM »
Bai Lor, these are bad leaders. Lets look those good leaders for life like:

King David, King Solomon...... etc.

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 02:05:54 PM »
All leaders are capable of fault. Your examples are not free from corruption and abuse of power.  Though Solomon had long been faithful to the LORD, late in life he fell away.

Part of Solomon's diplomatic success had come through marriages with foreign royalty. In all, he had 1,000 wives, many of them foreign. The LORD had forbidden his people to marry foreigners,1 for fear their religious practices would corrupt the true worship of the LORD. And in fact, this is what happened to Solomon.

Out of love for his wives, Solomon built shrines to their idols. To please his wives, he personally participated in the worship of those idols. This was no small sin, nor a positive expression of religious freedom. Each of these idols was connected with detestable practices. For example, both of the idols Chemosh and Molech required human sacrifice of children or infants in their worship.

And so Solomon, previously pure and committed to the LORD, introduced much sin into Israel in the name of political success. And this apostasy came in spite of God's great blessing to Solomon — God had personally spoken to him on two occasions, and had given him great wisdom, wealth, and security.

For this apostasy, God told Solomon he had decided to remove him from being king. Yet out of respect for Solomon's father, faithful King David, he would not do this during Solomon's lifetime, nor would he remove him completely — Solomon's heir would retain a small portion of the kingdom. This was fulfilled when Solomon's son King Rehoboam foolishly lost most of the kingdom.

As for King David, ironically, at the end of his life David himself became the victim of others' political maneuvering. His own son, Solomon, used contrived orders from David to launch a coup against the presumed successor, Adonijah, and to get rid of the members of the old regime (Joab, Abiathar) who supported Adonijah. Bathsheba herself may have orchestrated the coup.


History has mandated and exclaims that absolute power does corrupt absolutely.

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 01:47:01 PM »
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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 03:18:11 AM »
sauna sa dili pa uso ang sueldo talagsa ra gusto mamahimong tenente sa baryo kay dili gusto ug obligasyon. karon mangiilog na.

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Re: How long should a ruler stay in power?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 07:50:11 AM »
sa amu sobra pas ilog kay magdinautay na man.. sayang, ang mga kanhi panaghigalaay ug pagtinabangay sa mga taga baryo nabungkag ug nadaut sa politica.. philippine laws mandated barangay elections to be not partisan pero di jud na malikayan kay election gud.. ang sweldo sa mga opisyalis sa barangay wa nila gitawag sweldo.. honorarium kuno, way sweldo.. naunsa.. sa balaod lahi daw na sila.. pero pareho ra nag pan de sal ug pan burikat, pan parehos.. ang honorarium ug salary, pareho rang compensation.. nalips na..

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