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Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« on: January 11, 2009, 06:36:39 PM »
Why I’m against Death Penalty?

In a tense situation where both sides are hurling invectives and accusations against each other, the Philippines is now again entering into another saga of Filipinos favorite past time; the “blaming game.” As the situation flares up, here comes the resurgence of another debatable issue; re-imposition of death penalty. And what makes this game more exciting are the “riders” that goes with the issue. There you can expect opportunist politicians aiming for the 2010 elections joining the fracas, not to solve the problem but to get media exposure. A sure way of getting the people remember them come election time but no thanks to the “TRAPOS” (traditional politicians), we don’t intend to make our headache into tumor.

I’m in full support of the government’s campaign against prohibited drugs, its use, manufacture and distribution but I strongly opposed to the restoration of death penalty that was repealed by the 13th Congress. While it may looks like a strong deterrent to crimes including heinous ones, but this can worsen the case of bribery not only in its implementing agencies but also in the judiciary. Those arrested suspects who have the power and influence may resort “more” to bribery since the penalty if found guilty is graver while those who doesn’t have the right “connection” will definitely be in the losing end. History will tell that even during its imposition in the past, no known personalities and “big fish” got the taste of what is like to be put in the lethal injection chamber but poor people and those victims of unfair trial oftentimes are the ones meted out with the death penalty.

No rule can be more effective unless it is implemented to its fullest without fear and favor. We don’t need to reinvent the wheel to know its purpose. Just implement the existing law, that’s all we need to do.


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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 06:45:42 PM »
Hi Gener, kamusta ka Ondoy?

You can be against death penalty but, there are politicians who kills and eradicares what they call the misfits of society. They have even copied the slogan of Guilliani in New York, Zero tolerance.
But you are right an honest implementation of the law is enough in a civilized society, no need for death penalty.

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 10:05:49 PM »
Manay,

daghan pa karon diri naa sa death row nag huwat sa ilang "time" some really has changed, pero most of them didnt fight back to live. Amazing kay most of them are really ready to face "God" as they say they are ready...luoy no? pero its a LAW man.

I really dont like it pero i dont know ug ako ang nahingtungdan sa mga na murderan if i would still DONT like it. Naay uban family sa victims naka pasaylo man sa ilang mga murderes pero most of them wala jud. And i cant blame them too.



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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 11:42:04 PM »
Gener,

I say, bravo!!

I could have said the same arguments against death penalty.
How many INNOCENT people were sent to the chamber of death because they dont have the connections? because they dont have the money and power to prove their innocence?

How many rich and influential people who  really DID commit murder but escaped the law because of who they are?

The Philippines have laws but they have no TEETH against influential people. It is a very SAD fact.

It is very ironic how politicians openly resort to vote buying when it is very clear in the law that it is not legal to buy votes.

And to think that they are the ones who are suppose to show good examples in following the law.






Why I’m against Death Penalty?

In a tense situation where both sides are hurling invectives and accusations against each other, the Philippines is now again entering into another saga of Filipinos favorite past time; the “blaming game.” As the situation flares up, here comes the resurgence of another debatable issue; re-imposition of death penalty. And what makes this game more exciting are the “riders” that goes with the issue. There you can expect opportunist politicians aiming for the 2010 elections joining the fracas, not to solve the problem but to get media exposure. A sure way of getting the people remember them come election time but no thanks to the “TRAPOS” (traditional politicians), we don’t intend to make our headache into tumor.

I’m in full support of the government’s campaign against prohibited drugs, its use, manufacture and distribution but I strongly opposed to the restoration of death penalty that was repealed by the 13th Congress. While it may looks like a strong deterrent to crimes including heinous ones, but this can worsen the case of bribery not only in its implementing agencies but also in the judiciary. Those arrested suspects who have the power and influence may resort “more” to bribery since the penalty if found guilty is graver while those who doesn’t have the right “connection” will definitely be in the losing end. History will tell that even during its imposition in the past, no known personalities and “big fish” got the taste of what is like to be put in the lethal injection chamber but poor people and those victims of unfair trial oftentimes are the ones meted out with the death penalty.

No rule can be more effective unless it is implemented to its fullest without fear and favor. We don’t need to reinvent the wheel to know its purpose. Just implement the existing law, that’s all we need to do.


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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 11:53:40 PM »
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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 01:00:00 AM »
"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth makes the world blind and toothless"..  mahatma ghandi

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 04:07:08 AM »
i'm for vigilantism. ang style dre cebu or davao.

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 04:35:02 AM »
"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth makes the world blind and toothless"..  mahatma ghandi


Yee ingon sa bible nga ug batohon daw ka ug brick imo daw balosan ug pan!

shalan imong ibuno nang imong pan sa imong victoria secret diha???

noooo way! dili ko mo sugot!

hahahhahahha

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 01:00:27 PM »
In the Old Testament and even in Islam, Eye for an Eye applies and the Muslim applies this punishment up to the present time. Just recently, I read a news article that in Iran, 3 men convicted of adultery were sentenced to death by stoning. Stoning to death as way of punishment is strongly condemned even by the Muslim people and there was a law passed by the Muslim cleric banning this inhumane way of punishment.

Now in the Christian countries like the Philippines who proud itself as the only Catholic country in Asia, yet so hungry for blood of the "sinners." Didn't Jesus explain it when He said, "Let those who don't sin cast the first stone?" Jesus didn't contradict the Law of Moses, in fact he explained that the Law of Moses given the way it was simply because of our stubbornness and when Jesus came to redeemed the world, all laws were under Him and there were so many parables in the Bible that explain the superiority of Jesus over all laws and teachings in the Old Testament.
Now, if I may invoke the same question that Jesus had raised, "Let those who don't sin push the syringe of the lethal injection."

For me I still believed that the best punishment that men can ever give to a sinner is an opportunity for him to live and repent for his sins. Strengthen the 4 pillars of our Justice system. Effective Law Enforcement match with incorruptible people like Major Marcelino of the PDEA, Unbiased Prosecution of the offenders and the Prosecutors SHOULD  NOT HAVE people like Usec.  Blancaflor and DOJ Sec. Gonzales, a Judiciary process led by incorruptible judges/justices in the likes of Retired SC Justice Hilario Davide Jr., and last but not the least; an effective penitentiary system that aims to reform law offenders and NOT to turned them into hardened criminals. A penitentiary system where the application of reform sees no rich and poor, no more VIP treatment in the likes of Claudio Tehankee Jr, Rolito Go, Ex-Mayor Sanchez and other “son of gods.”


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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 06:58:17 PM »
The end does not justify the means.

You cant correct a mistake by another mistake


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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 08:15:56 PM »

Yee ingon sa bible nga ug batohon daw ka ug brick imo daw balosan ug pan!

shalan imong ibuno nang imong pan sa imong victoria secret diha???

noooo way! dili ko mo sugot!

hahahhahahha

Di pod ko mosogot ug bon on ko nimog pan MDB. Butangi sab ug palaman muna maski peanut butter. Man cannot live by bread alone. Dapat may palaman! LOL

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 12:50:06 PM »
Why, (Still) I'm against Death Penalty?

We all know that grass and weeds deprived protein that palay rice deserve most and for a farmer to have a bountiful harvest; he has to remove these weeds from the rice fields. Kaingin (field burning) is one way of clearing grass before the planting season, this method seems to be the fastest and easy way of clearing the fields of grass but there's bigger chance that grass will grow back. Another way of ensuring that the grass will not grow back is to ensure that grass are weeded out from its main roots, thus comes the popular problem-solving problem method employ by most learned people—Root Cause Analysis. This is to ensure that the problem is analyzed from its root and not superficially.

Death Penalty is somewhat equivalent to KAINGIN. While the punishment seems like forceful and swift but will not guarantee a long term solution to Coup 'd etat, rape, murder, corruption and other heinous crimes and cancers of our society. You cannot threaten somebody with an empty stomach. A hungry person knows one thing and has a one-track mind; that he will die if will not do something about his hunger.

Killing all these criminals will not eradicate this cancer of our society, UNLESS we deal with the very root cause of the problem. And you know what the root cause of all these problems is? Greed. If all of us can only learn how to moderate the greed that lives within us, no amount of worse punishment can curb these social cancer that enslave people not only in the Philippines but the world in its entirety. Now probably, you will be asking, “Then, how you will solve crimes if you are not in favor of Death penalty?"

In order for the Justice System to work in any country (not only in the Philippines), one should understand the 4 Pillars of Justice System.

1. Enforcement of laws
No sacred cow and no one is above the law. Enforcers such as PDEA Major Marcelino are a living example of how enforcers will enforce the rule of law

2. Prosecution of the offenders
Incorruptible prosecutors, zero tolerance to bribery. Prosecutors should be selected by an independent body such as JBC (Judicial Bar Council) and not presidential appointees

3. Judicial System
Did I say "NO TO BRIBERY?" People in the likes of Justice Hilario Divide, Jr. There are still people with integrity like him just waiting for the right moment.

4. Correction System
A penitentiary system that aims for complete rehabilitation of law offenders. No rich cow and no biased while in jail, NO VIP TREATMENT like what they extended to Claudio Tehankee, Rolito Go, Romeo Jalosjos, Ex-mayor Sanchez and the list goes on and on....and on.....and on

We don’t need DEATH PENALTY to deter crimes and we don’t need MORE LAWS for we have so many laws that are existing, just effective implementation of system is all we need to do. As I have said, we don’t need to reinvent the wheel.
   


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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 01:47:11 PM »
imnot against on it..coz if u look back in the history..ang makasala will be stoned to death db?..for the wages of sin is death...hahahha relevant ba sya paka quote or tka lng ko ...--just a thought thou..  :)

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2009, 06:51:42 PM »
in as much as i dont want to make use of the bible as the source of my answer, but since history and a passage reckoned from the bible has been used, i will invoke a phrase taken from the bible asked by no less than Jesus himself: "He who does not sin casts the first stone?"

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 10:26:56 PM »
Di pod ko mosogot ug bon on ko nimog pan MDB. Butangi sab ug palaman muna maski peanut butter. Man cannot live by bread alone. Dapat may palaman! LOL

hahahaha...delikado ron ang peanut butter, lay.



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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2009, 11:26:43 AM »
I think the death should not be a penalty for offenses. Doing it is giving the sinner the comfort of ending all the painful trouble of remorse which should be a heavier load that the bolt of shock.

Heheh, inhuman kaau. hmm
 

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2009, 11:39:33 AM »
would it not benefit a society if somebody dies for a reason or another?

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2009, 11:42:57 AM »
if he does, its his stupidity that gets him that sentence. Mao na, di ko ana period na ijang life, aju nang comma pa, para makatilawg tagam. Or magsangyaw pag makagawas. eheheh


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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2009, 11:48:57 AM »
basin og mahimo pang kampanero sa karaang simbahan sa Baclayon lol

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2009, 12:14:53 PM »
I am for Death Penalty.Will you keep a criminal that would be very dangerous to the society? Actually death penalty is necessary means for deterrent and prevention method but not as means of vengeance. Death penalty should be avoided unless it is the only way to depend the society from offender.We are all free to make personal decision on this subject.


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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2009, 04:25:17 PM »
The exhortation of the Church for the fullness of life respects what the Church believes to be the plan of God for man. The fullness and sanctity of life is not for us to decide who will live and who will not. While every human is empowered to make decisions, but such decision doesn't include the right to judge whose sinner and who is saint; for He alone has the sole authority to do so.

The gift of life is the manifestation of God's love and abundance of heaven. It is, then, a primordial obligation of everyone to pave way for the emanticipation of life, including that of the unborn inside a mother's womb. It is sometimes one's quietness to shed light or be the sources of light that enables darkness to shadow the sanctity of life.


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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2009, 08:59:34 PM »
not many have died because of death penalty
many have lost their lives in pursuit of criminals instead

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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2009, 12:01:21 AM »
As we speak, there are thousands of thousands who are murdered on a daily basis due to abortion, and undocumented accounts of euthanasia of the elderly.

The culture of death is so ingrained in our society that it sickens me.



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Re: Why I'm Against Death Penalty?
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2009, 06:23:31 PM »
not many have died because of death penalty
many have lost their lives in pursuit of criminals instead

People who lost their lives while discharging responsibilities died in pursuit of upholding what is right. They died fighting for noble cause. However, killing another who we believed is the cause will not bring back the lives that are lost.

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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2009, 09:54:20 PM »
i would say death penalty is no different to what's going on in Sudan or Afghanistan. it's just another look  of the culture of death affecting our society

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