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Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« on: October 04, 2009, 08:23:57 AM »
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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 12:23:44 AM »
kani nga match-up murag thrilling ni. depende ra ni sa kamao na daan.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2009, 05:33:16 PM »
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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 12:13:55 PM »
it' a bout time the people tries a newbie rather than choosing from evil to evil... id take my chance on the lesser evil............

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 12:22:15 PM »
it' a bout time the people tries a newbie rather than choosing from evil to evil... id take my chance on the lesser evil............

same here!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 01:50:31 PM »
Kanang nga appellido sumo na kay niatong 1970s hangtud na 1990s ang Bohol wala asenso kay kaliwat trapo man. bag -o na pod.


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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 06:17:50 PM »
correct Ric mura bag sila lay makahibawo mudala sa renda sa pangagamhanan. Makasubo bitaw bisag pag ingnun nato nga adobo ang sud-ang, bisaya pa jud basata balik2 makasumo, manimaho nang ite!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 02:50:52 AM »
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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 01:26:14 PM »
Let's GO FOR THE NEW GUY!.....Let's put a STOP to the same old faces in Bohol politics....wants new blood, fresh ideas and no more same old politics. Salamat daghan jamu...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 02:40:23 PM »
Let's GO FOR THE NEW GUY!.....Let's put a STOP to the same old faces in Bohol politics....wants new blood, fresh ideas and no more same old politics. Salamat daghan jamu...

sakto pud ka.. basig diay pud mas mu-asenso ang bohol kung new atong pilion... but the problem is that new lagi but basig naay nagpaluyo nga old hehehe

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 10:43:06 PM »
way kaso ang mga "olds" ang background or nagpalujo basta ang final decision or words come from the new guy himself......dili pareha anang old politicians unya old pa jud ang nagpaluyo, samot ta ani ka OLDS.....lol!....magtungkod nalang ta kay nagmata lang ta nga gimuta....he he he...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 05:53:15 PM »
ill go for the tried and tested. ill vote for chatto. :)

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 11:13:20 PM »
ok, og naay maayong agi, let's quantify it... :)
pila ang total money gi-hatag sa Bohol government og unsa ang mga projects?  worth the money vs. projects? are they transparent as how the money was spent or secret lang? here's a tip: karaang mayor sa usa ka lungsod, the town government has 1million pesos plus calamity fund...gibaha ang usa ka baryo, unsay gihatag sa katawhan?...about 38 sacks of rice...aju ang agi, ha? from kara-ang politician....that's only tip of the iceberg....how much more sa provincial level? unsa kaha mga funds ilang agi og sakto ba sukli? anyone cares to quantify? how much more sa national level nga agi sa
mga kara-ang politician? are they mr. clean?  the point is: og kara-an politician na, duna na silay self-confidence nga they
can do anything they want...let's all ASK these kara-ang candidates to be transparent of their jobs/project/funds.....if they can't explain to the public, something is hidden there and hopefully the new guy can discover it and correct that
need to be corrected.... ;D
maayong pasko sa tanan.
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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 10:21:59 AM »
modagan diay jud si cesar montano?..tinood ni na dili na daw pansinon si cesar dha sa bohol? mao man gud ingon ni tagb deputy mayor uy when we have a learning experience tour in tagbilaran city?

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 10:30:11 AM »
ill go for chatto nalang tried and tested na. am not that comfortable our province being handled by an inexperienced guy. bohol might loose its momentum. Merry Christmas too :)

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 11:19:10 AM »
that's ok, it's your right to choose whoever you want....
cesar may be inexperienced in politics but he made a name of his own through his own effort in nonpolitical life.
if he can share that character and energy for public service, who knows bohol will have
the best momentum never experienced before....

and talk about experienced politicians, yeah, we have a lot of them: marcos, arroyos, ampatuan, singson, who else?...not sure yet in bohol of those experienced politicians
due to lack of transparency or media coverage of what they have done exactly
and up to what amount.(why?)

my point is: we have enough of those so-called exeperienced. time for renewal, better momentum not losing it, hope and change....merry merry pasko and hopefully NEW politicians by next year! :-*

forgot to mention that i would love to see those candidates in a live debate.

what do u think?  :o

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 11:39:54 AM »
i respect your views mam/sir and you have a point there. its just that i had a personal confrontation with him way back and i didnt like what happened. and i agree with you that there should be a live debate or perhaps just a forum of the three candidates so that the people would know their plans/agenda for our province. and i hope to be there in that debate/forum so i could ask them point-blank if theyre gonna buy votes. i really loved to know how would they answer/react my question ;D

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 11:57:50 AM »
My family is convinced of Montano's decision to run for governor. We subscribed to the fact that he is inexperienced but we need new blood in the Capitol which for so long has been dominated by old politicians. Cesar is a self-mad man and hes connection to showbiz and his inclination to public service would surely make a difference to Bohol!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 11:59:46 AM »
thrilling jud segoro og na-ay live debate kanang mga tawhana.
maayo unta og marelay ning atung "request" sa mga kandidato
og dunay independent community organization mga mo-initiate
og mo-plano sa maong debate.
in fact, og mo-blog sila dire for a start to say hi to all of us, that would be interesting.


me too, i hate those vote buying practices bisag kinsa nga politicians.
i hope voters will realize nga kanang kwarta nga gipanghatag sinsilyo ra na
sa mabulsa sa mga politicians....millions of pesos ilang kita sa mga projects
nga walay klaro nga kwenta.

i feel bad sa imong confrontation ni cesar. whatever that is, i leave that to you and cesar kay personal man kaha na. ang ako lang gusto mahibalo-an niya og unsa iyang plano para kaayuhan sa tanang bol-anon. i will give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
those experienced politicians, gisom-olan na lagi ko ilang mga ngalan, oi.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 12:09:29 PM »
Bisan ug dili ko makaboto diha, Montano gyud ko. Ibagsak kadtong mga traditional politicians nga mga coracot.


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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2009, 12:25:28 PM »
i feel bad sa imong confrontation ni cesar. whatever that is, i leave that to you and cesar kay personal man kaha na. ang ako lang gusto mahibalo-an niya og unsa iyang plano para kaayuhan sa tanang bol-anon. i will give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
those experienced politicians, gisom-olan na lagi ko ilang mga ngalan, oi.

in all honesty tagaclarin, kung wala lang nahitabo tu, mu personal gyud ko ug volunteer ug tabang sa campo ni montano. sobra pa sa sum-ol ning ako guibati makakita sa ilang mga nawong o madungog ang mga ngalan na chatto, aumentado, herrera, relampagos, cajes etc. etc...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2009, 04:26:39 AM »
Dawaton nato sa bisan kinsa nga kandidato ang mamalit ug vote, pero dili nato sila iboto. Atong piliion ang angayan nga palingkuron, dili nata anang mga dunay BRAND NAME ilang apelido pero walay nahimo nga maayo, kundi NANGURAKOT!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2009, 04:47:15 AM »
Bisan ug dili ko makaboto diha, Montano gyud ko. Ibagsak kadtong mga traditional politicians nga mga coracot.

fdaray: puede, sir, imong hangyoon ang imong pamilya nga ari na ta sa mga bag-o? ayaw na sa mga recycled, oi.  maajung pasko diha...

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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2009, 04:51:43 AM »
Dawaton nato sa bisan kinsa nga kandidato ang mamalit ug vote, pero dili nato sila iboto.

Maaju pud ning buhaton...dawaton unsay ihatag basta inig boto na, dili sila kahibalo kinsa atong gipili. Let them guess!
Merry Christmas, pod...

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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2009, 08:42:00 AM »
Si Cesar maayo nga modagan una siya ug kapitan sa barangay

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 08:51:57 AM »
Dili maayo nga itugyan nato ang Bohol sa mga walay alamag, Chatto is the best man for the progress of Bohol.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2009, 08:54:18 AM »
tagaclarin..........., bitaw magpili ta karon ug mga mga bag-ong leaders.
triggermaan.., dili na kinahanglan modagan pa ug kapitan si Cesar, Si Cory bitaw deretso man president.
 Noynoy is popular and deserving to be the next pesident.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2009, 09:21:22 AM »
Mao na nga sa panahon ni Cory mao toy pinaka maot nga administration daghang codeta unya siya pod ang nagbutang sa mga Ampatuan ug nag-ligalized sa Communist Party of the Philippines

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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2009, 09:27:15 AM »
cory and montano is not the same.....its just like comparing an apple to a banana :)

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2009, 11:09:40 AM »
branding Cesar as WAY ALAMAG clearly violates the right of the person to a due process. How did you know that he is that kind of man? ARe you privy to his life for you to judge him that way? Experience may be an asset but we are talking about public service. This is a calling which demands compassion. Montano is a self made man. He is rich with a beautiful wife and children, He lives comfortably but he responded to the true calling of his heart and that is Public Service!

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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2009, 08:54:52 PM »
Mag mayor lang sa kaha na si Cesar sa Baclayon.

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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2009, 12:01:30 AM »
Dili maayo nga itugyan nato ang Bohol sa mga walay alamag, Chatto is the best man for the progress of Bohol.

Walay alamag kay, sa previous and present admin, wala may transparency ang panggoberno sa bohol sa ilang mga projects versus costs. Puro nalang paporma-porma sila sa mga media og walay kwentada sa ilang mga projects. Ang ato lang
gusto mahibalo-an unsa gyud og pila gyud ang mga funds sa goberno og gi-unsa
nila paggasto, unsay SALN sa mga kara-ang politician, nganong ilang mga real estate properties og bank accounts make sense being having  a politician INCOME. Ang kadaot lang kay ang main stream media maorag ingkanta man "SILENT NIGHT" all years through out.....he he he ... merry christmas...

Chato is the best man?.....kinsa man ang gikasal sa bohol? kanang mga CAJES pod? Lol!

Si Cesar walay alamag? Ngano man naka-attain siya sa iyang current position without people's tax money? Compare that with old and current politicians og
naka-achieve ba sila pareha ni Cesar w/o government money? I think Cesar is
the apple of my eyes in terms of achieving one's goal..and he deserves to be emulated by ordinary people from the poorest to the richest, from the
ugliest to the prettiest, and from the weakest to the strongest.

May the best man wins for all the people of bohol....not for the elite family of politicians.

daghang salamat... 8)

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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2009, 06:08:38 AM »
manipulation ra gihapon ang mopatigbabaw ani. kung dayon si cesar ug langsad nya si julius ug si eddie ang kontra. magbantay nalang jud siya ana nga mga moves kay siguro jud na nga mahitabo.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2009, 01:39:19 PM »
Lami ni nga choice pero before anything else ato jod hukasan ning mga tawhana sa ilang tinood na pagkatawo.
Edgar Chatto - Nakaila naman ta ani niya.Active student leader kaniadto.utokan,abogado og dili man salawayon ang mga binuhatan. Napolitko gumikan kay misunod sa yatak sa iyang amahan og mga kadugo pero dunaan say maayong agi sukad sa iyang pagka KB president. Og dili pa gitanaw nga tuta o sumusunod ni GMA wala may bug-at na isyu.

Cesar Montano- Wala man jod ta makaila pag-ayo sa iyang pagkatawo kay toa man ni cya nagdako sa Manila,misikat na artista. Dunay daghang mga storya2x nga init kuno og ulo.hambogero og tihik. Pero kinsa man pong artistaha walay hambog? Kanang pagkamaayong tawo wata kaayo makita nga agi gawas sa iyang pagtabang sa mga victima sa Mabini food poisoning kaniadto.Apan kanang gihimo niya nga Panaghoy Children Foundation mahimo man kana nga tax shelter og mahitabo nga kopya2x ra pod sa ubang artista nga dunay susamang foundation. Wala man idungog ni sa mga miaging katuigan og karon lang kalit tang nahibalo nga duna siya'y mga scholars apan gikan ba kaha ni sa kaayo sa iyang dughan? Kaning kwartaha gigasto og mga foundation gikan man kana sa mga donation sa mga pribadong katawhan  sa gawas sa nasod nga dali ra kaayong malukmay hilabi na kung ang magsolicit mga artistsa!

Karong bag-o makadungog ta sa radyo og mga isyu kabahin sa igsoon ni Montano nga wala pa gani makahupot og gahom kuyaw na kaayo apan si Chatto wala may mga storya. Low profile man ni nga pamilyaha bisan pa gani na iyang inahan Mayor man sa ilaha bisan og may edad na. Pero wa man pod ikadungon nga mga abusado.

Gamay ra ni mga panahom apan angay nato pagahinoklogan kay basin og magdali2x ta og ambak og pili mahisukamod ta og malingla sa kaplastican o madani sa kaanyag sa tawo nga walay pagtanaw sa unahan.
Alang kanako let us choose the lesser evil and vote wisely !

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2009, 02:21:05 PM »
Karong panahuna angayan tun an ug lantawon gyud sa mga botante kon kinsa sa mga nikandidato ang angay hatagan sa ilang mga boto. Makaraan man nga politiko or mga bag-ong salta man sa politika.



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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2009, 11:32:46 PM »
Ang atong lang hunahuna-on ning mga karaang politician ngano man dili man hatagan og chance ang ubang tawo nga moserbe? Sila ra jud ang ang
maayong laki or baje nga modomala sa katawhan? Sila ra jud ang saligan sa tibo-ok Bohol? Og maayong silang lider ngano man nga dili mo-train og bag-o nga "other personalities or family name"  how to lead the people? Siyaro naman pod....


Yah, ang mga Marcoses, og Arroyos mga maajung laki, lider diha lider dito, escuela diha, escuela didto, pero tan-awa nagkadugay sa poder? Maayo lang sa bag-o pero nagkadugay na gawas na ang baho.....when did we last hear about Ampatuan?
Magpa-abot pa ta dunay sensational incidents aron
mahibalo-an og magkadugay na sa ilang posisyon?
Please....

Bahin anang igsoon ni Montano, sa akong nabasahan,
"he is just following orders"....Dunay gina-ingon nga "damn if you do and damn if you don't"...iya man na nga trabaho...to put an insinuation nga
si Cesar maoy nagmando ana is not fair pod, oi....or to blame nga igsoon ni Cesar is unethical..
Ug nakabasa ta bahin sa customs collection problem
sa pinas, it's because of smuggling...and it should be undestandable nga ang mga tawo sa anti-smuggling enforcements they are just trying to their job....maorag dili pod fair nga ang igsoon
iapil pod..instead kujawan ta, malipay ta nga dunay nag-enforce balaod sa pinas.

So vote wisely people, open your minds, and
pangutan-a inyung kaugalingon: unsay  nahimo
ang mga kara-ang politician sa inyong lugar?
ang mga tao duna bay katakos o di mahadlok moquestion sa mga kara-ang politician? motobag ba sila og tarong? dili pa pod labaw pa sa mga
bading nga mga artista? unsa ilang bank account
compared to their legal income as politician?
does it make sense? pila ilang yuta gipamalit so
far og di-in sila og kwarta? Ang ilang projects,
kinsa ang naghimo, dili ba ilang pariente or so-od
lang?

Katapusang pangutana sa tanan: malipayon ba inyong
pasko?....bitaw hapay,aw, happy new year....



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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 03:15:31 AM »
Kanang atong pagpili ug mga lider kon wala lang gyud kwartahay aron maila gyud  ang katag. Kay daghan kaayong mga maayo mamahimong lider apan gumikan kay ipaagi man gud ug money power plus ang atong mga botante magpadala man pod.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 03:55:37 AM »
Dili pod realistic og walay kwartahay og modagan ang usa ka politician.
Kana diay gasto sa transportation pagkampanya from point a to b?
Ang kanang pagkaon sa mga volunteers?
Kanang cost sa advertisements(leaflets)?

Og barangay captain, ok lang.

Segoro og tinod-anay ilang public service,  kinahanglan "regulated" or "transparent" sila sa campaign funds.
Og dunay mo-ona ani nga politician labi tung mga kara-ang politicians, anha ko mo-believe nila!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 04:21:25 AM »
Ang buot nako ipasabot tagaclarin nga kanang giingon nila ug inangayan.
Kanang mga gastos para sa transportation, ads. kinahanglan adto magagikan sa ilang pundo sa ilang partido. Sa ilang personal expences kinahanglan nga limitahan depende sa position nga ilang kandidatuhan.Dayon inighuman sa election modaug man kon mapildi kinahanglan ilang ideclarar ang tanan nilang mga expences apil na sa mga donation.



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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 04:27:43 AM »
ok, lindy, now we are in the same page...sorry na misunderstood ka.
maajung pasko diha...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 04:33:48 AM »
Kanang atong pagpili ug mga lider kon wala lang gyud kwartahay aron maila gyud  ang katag. Kay daghan kaayong mga maayo mamahimong lider apan gumikan kay ipaagi man gud ug money power plus ang atong mga botante magpadala man pod.

Agree ko, Nong, 100%.  Dha jud klaro kinsay angay kon wa'y apil pamalit ug votes.  Kini unta pod atong botante, di unta pod sila magpadala.  Kon dunulan man sila'g kwarta unya di makabalibad or di magpabalibad, bahala lang gud basta moboto sila sang-ayon sa kinsay angayan unya gitan-aw ang record aning kandidato.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 05:21:34 AM »
kasagaran ra ba mga politiko maayo kaayong magpakaaron-ingnong buotan. nya diay to lawom kaayo ug duot. nagtakoban ra diay to nga karnero pero lobo diay. walay mapili ana nila. anha nako motoo kung naay usa ka tawo nga modaug ug posisyon nga dako dako sama sa gobernador nga moduol jud sa katawhan. dili hamugaway ug lifestyle kanang makamasa jud kaayo.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 05:36:03 AM »
so far sa akong nahibalo-an, human sa lunop sa among lugar, duha ra high profile personalities ang mi-bisita: herrera og montano...gani si montano maorag kaduha mibalik kay namista pod...ang mayor(recylced) sa lungsod maorag wala pa jud mopatim-aw...segoro karong panahona hapit na ang election, magpakita lang segoro.


ako pod nahibalo-an, ako ning balikbalikon aron the more people know, the more ma-realize nga kining mga kara-ang politician dunay sekreto gihoptan, no transparency: nga ang calamity fund sa usa ka lungsod is 1.5 milyon pesos and i don't think ang nagasto sa miaging calamity fund mo-abot ba anang kantidara....hay, buhay buhay...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 07:50:31 AM »
Close fight gyud ni sila, Edgar and Cesar.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 08:41:08 AM »
close fight gyud kaau...mo biya lang jud ni gamay....

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2009, 04:34:31 AM »
kung kinsa tong proven na ang makinarya sa eleksyon, mao to ang naay advantage.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2009, 01:20:08 PM »
Sir Felix, unsa may nahimo ni Cory sa iyang panahon?

tagaclarin..........., bitaw magpili ta karon ug mga mga bag-ong leaders.
triggermaan.., dili na kinahanglan modagan pa ug kapitan si Cesar, Si Cory bitaw deretso man president.
 Noynoy is popular and deserving to be the next pesident.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2009, 01:21:09 PM »
Maayo pa or board member lang usa.

Mag mayor lang sa kaha na si Cesar sa Baclayon.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2009, 07:43:02 PM »
cesar montano gyud ta bai!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2009, 09:48:38 PM »
Nindot basahon ang inyong kalainlain nga panahom. Apan usa lang kabutang ang akong ikasugyot. Kanang paglangkop sa tanang karaang politiko nga maot og mga bag-ong politiko nga nindot dili man makaangayon. Ang saktong sumbanan ang pagkatawo sa usa ka binuhat. Tingale baya hinoon og mashot mo sa bulsa sa inyong pagtoo nga kaning tawhana mas maayo kay bag-o pa walay kurakot. Adunay giingon sa ingles nga a competent corrupt leader is much better than an inept leader. Ngano man? Tungod kay kung kaayohan ang atong gipanglantaw dunay makaB-OT bisag adunay corruption kaysa wala gayoy alamag og unsay pagabuhaton! Tinood dili kini mga nindot nga hiyas sa usa ka lider apan sa kani karong sitwasyona walay nindot na kapilian.Far from ideal sa ginaingon pa sa englis.

Apan kay mapugos man ta og pili adto ta sa lesser evil. Montano or Chatto?
Kaning tanan mahisayran nato sa mga umaabot nga mga adlaw kay manggawas na ang ilang mga tinagoang baho.  ABANGAN!!!!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2009, 10:13:33 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2009, 12:50:20 AM »
 pangutana:

kanang competent corrupt leader kanus-a pa nang panahona?
 Marcos then Arroyo, right?
 Wa pa jud ta matagbaw ana nila?
 Wa pa jud ta malekyson?

Mo risk nalang ko sa perceive inept leader, oi, nga wala gani sulayi ....
who knows baligtad diay...dunay may
ginaingon pod sa inengles nga do not judge a book by its cover
....or good cover up ba sa main stream media kay hangtud karon wala
pay baho inggawas...maayong brand segoro nga deodorant gigamit...imported....

lmao!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2009, 12:58:33 AM »
Sir Felix, unsa may nahimo ni Cory sa iyang panahon?


Puede akoy tubag ani?

Unsa man diay tung pag-bring down sa mga marcos?
dili natu igo sa mga pilipino nga nausab ang political landscape sa pinas?
pati mga laing nasud gani nalipay....
ang katong wala nalipay, ah, kamo nalang tiwas ani....kay dili ko gusto
nga mag-away pa ta sa inglabay...pero looks like the ghosts of marcos
are haunting us back....humana haloween, no?...pasko na pod...lol!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2009, 04:24:21 AM »
tagaclarin kon mangutana ko nimo unsa may nahimo ni marcos sa iyang panahon?

ato usang utingkayon ang mga kaayohan usa sa mga dili maayo. kay usahay gud sa panahon nga masayop ang usa ka tawo ang tanan nga mga kaayohan nga nahimo mahikalomtan na.



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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2009, 05:15:02 AM »
Bai Lindy, dili nata estorya ana Marcos bai oi, tungod niya , abi nakog patay nako?

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2009, 05:37:04 AM »
Was #1 fan of Marcos in his early years of admin...
in fact ing-sign up ko sa military to serve him but blessing in disguise wa ko madawat after passing
battery of IQ tests/interviews  due to sinusitis
and PMA did not like it....but surprise surprise, kadtong grabe pa sa sakit naku,
nadawat kay tungod sa "strong connection" ...wa man intaon koy connection..and
peace be with some of my ka batch unta  kay KIA na sila...uban dagko na og ranggo ron..god bless them...

Then everything went downhill with my Marcos admirations...mao gyud tingali na basta magkadugay
lagi ang politicians sa puesto mogawas na jud ang baho: abuses(families and cronies),
unsolved political killings, left and right graft and corruption, and
 the enriching of politician themselves. Magkadugay magkalami sa binali(pareha bana/asawa....lol!)

Without going thru all the bad and good memories about politics, my simple hope is:
WE GOT TO CHANGE OUR WAY OF THINKING...hopefully the political atmosphere
will change too for the better....not drastically but hinay hinay lang.
I do understand, change can't be made overnight, this election, or the next ones.
Daghang nagiingon nga we, the people, have to take blames too, not only the politicians for what's happening ILLS
in our society due to our ATTITUDE and MENTALITY!

meaning, if by struck of luck, montano will be elected, and he is the same s***,
then i won't patronize him next election ...at least, i tried something different in attitude
and mentality...and personality...

maajung pasko    


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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2009, 09:47:58 AM »
Hi Mr. taga Clarin I admire your penchant for change. What I am merely suggesting is take things in a stride and let's not allow our biases to cloud our objectivity. Ang hugot nako ipasabot nga hinoklogan nato is which is better for development or progress ang lider nga dunay competernce pero may kurakot o kanang lider nga wa joy alamag sa pamaagi ? Asa man ang lesser evil ani?
To be candid about it our political system is as corrupted as it is. Pagsulod palang nimo sa politika hugaw na kaayo. Balingbing dinhi balingbing didto if only to ensure survival and promote self-interest. Rarely can we find such true advocates and sincere dedication.

While we cannot judge a book by its cover we can glance over its contents and get a feel of its substance. Ang lider nga pirmi lang gahisgot og mga general issues nga dili tumbok sa unsay angayan sa local wala makakuha sa timpla og gibati sa mga katawhan.
Ang pagkamaayong tawo  dili masukod sa pulong lamang. Kinahanglan pata mokaykay sa ilawom aron makita ang tinood nga pagkatawo.

While it may seem alright to opt for new faces and shun away the old , just a word of caution we may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire!

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« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2009, 10:50:26 AM »
sal, i highly respect your views and i know all along politics is a
dirty game. ako gani nga blog blog lang sa ubang online forum, daghan na nagtungo sa ako nga masakit or worst, mamatay...simbako lang intaon.
gi-dig up pa jud akong true identity og ambot unsay ilang buhaton...
ipabarang segoro ko...lol...

mao bitaw nga bisag unsa pa na sila ka edukado og bright kanang na-a sa
politics , dili jud ko morespitar nila like gods basta ang ilang tujo sa politics para lang jud self-glorification sa ila og  pamilya nila.

we are not all perfect, that's a given fact.
another fact is that politics in bohol or anywhere in the country
have been controlled by the same elite family.

yes, ferdinand marcos is out, thanks God, but look the same
family name is still out there plus his relatives ...not to mention
the arroyos and the ampatuans and their cronies.

and yet we filipinos are complaining about dirty politics?
so who are playing this game of politics for so long? 
who is to blame?

do we have to cook menu over and over again?
maorag som-ol man pud.

i am willing to jump into a hot fying pan basta lain lang pod putahe,
og laing lamas.

yeah, we never know what's out there but we can cook something
different every 3 years, right? tilawan gud unsay lami....og way lami
na-a may election as long as there is real democracy in the country.


peace on earth.

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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2009, 12:25:36 PM »

While it may seem alright to opt for new faces and shun away the old , just a word of caution we may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire!

101% agree on this sir sal. amen again :)

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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2009, 01:22:46 PM »
para naku mangadje sa ku una mo amen amen para kaugmaon sa mga bata og kaigsoonan..... ;D ;D ;D

adto lang ko simbahan mo say amen after anung say sa pari...

102% funny.....way pikunay ha?...smile katawa tawa lang ta....lol! pasko bitaw...

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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2009, 01:54:46 PM »
no problem tc dili ko mapikon infact nagsigi kog katawa diri nagbasa aning thread :)  ;D

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2009, 01:59:34 PM »
Thanks guys for getting my point! Ang akoa ra man na maabli atong mga mata sa mga realidad. Reality bites indeed! Dili lang jod ta masalaw sa ilang pagkagwapo o pagkamaayo manolti ba kung dili ato jod kuniskunison ilang pagkatawo. It's easier said than done. Sayon ra sultion we are willing to take the plunge,take the risk but when you are looking at the big picture "from the frying pan into the fire" is no laughing matter especially if this concerns the future of our beloved province and our children. These things just cannot be left to chance and the future not risked.

This early on I have tried my best to know a lot more of our candidates from people who know them or have been a part of them to know their true identities. Nanghuwam bani sila og batasan og nagtakuban lang pero mga mangtas sab diay!

Dili na ta pailad oi kay pagkatinood lang lami  iboycott pero kay we have to exercise man kaha our right of suffrage magmatngon ta pagayo og ampingan ang atong choices.

Let's not be carried away by empty rhetoric, seemingly patriotic words that are just empty and not be driven by our strong desire for change only to end up making a much bigger mistake!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2009, 02:12:50 PM »
sir sal im a registered voter in bohol. how would you characterize montano? i might vote for him .... :)

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2009, 02:34:42 PM »
Sir, Sal, you seem to be a known respectable and knowledgeable  blogger about Bohol politics.

Is it possible, sir, to give us brief list of what Chatto did to the congressional funds(PDAF?) in his district in his terms?

If you have access to the COA people, that would be even better aron makaykay jud ang pagkatino-od.

Hint: og na-ay kay kaila nga kadtong nagretire na or gawas na, mas reliable na sila.

I know one nga wala na COA karon,  tu-a na sa tate pero nagka-istorya mi before ing-larga siya sa mga shocking irregularities to

make COA personnel  jobs in favor of politicians, not for the people.

And to make things balance, why you think Montano is not qualified(or inept or more evil?) to be a candidate for governor?

Appreciate if you can share your detailed views and opinions.

Salamat daan.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2009, 03:55:03 PM »
Let us make all things new in Bohol. Cesar comes in.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #66 on: December 17, 2009, 04:39:12 PM »
Here you go guys bring in your weighing scales and have fun!
         
 
                                           Edgar Chatto                                         Cesar Montano

Qualifications                   Lawyer UP school of economics               Veteran Actor/director masscom
                                 awarded legislator,student leader                broadcast journalism,Lyceum
                                                                                              correspondence course


Public service exp          KB President,Brd Member,Vice-Gov.             none.Ran for senator but lost.
                                  Congressman                                                                                 


Civic Involvement         Past Pres.Jaycees,Leo                                none

Philanthrophic involvement  Charitable doleouts through PDAF            Panaghoy children Foundation

Business                      flower shop and review center                 CM Film Productions,Bellissimo Rest.
                                 ran by wife

Residences                  Quezon city,tagbilaran,Balilihan                Houses in Manila,Baclayon and some
                                                                                           farm property in Bulacan

Personality                  Approachable,Politician epitome,travels      Charismatic,typical celebrity,travels
                                with one or two aides                             with an entourage

Temper                       No known outbursts,level headed               Hot tempered,together with his brother
                                                                                           have figured in some celebrity fights in
                                                                                           the past

Physical Image           Average looking,physically disabled              Good-looking,physically fit,macho

Public Projection         Good speaker,eloquent                              below average,stutters,talks in circles

Family Image             Family man,no known indiscretions               sired children with different women,
                                                                                           typical actor

Religious Orientation    Devout Catholic                                       Born again Christian like most
                                                                                           showbiz personalities

Public Perception       Trapo                                                      New breed


 

Edgar Chatto has a wealth of experience behind him and quite literally having been in Congress for 3 terms
               you can do your math and voila you have one wealthy legislator. Say the average
               congressman's PDAF is about 70M per year not including the budgetary insertions and at a
               minimum of just 10% you have a whopping 63M SOP.But soft projects such as livelihood
               command at least 35-40% in kickbacks. You can just imagine the wealth a politician can
               accumulate over the years. But in fairness to Chatto, don't we see a multitude of projects
               road concreting,schoolbuildings,etc in his district? Not to mention some brilliant legislation
               as the Tourism Act ,etc. All told this is what is meant by a "competent corrupt". All these
               is institutionalized in our rotten system of politics. Thus how do we gauge a leader in this
               regard?
               By the amount of effort he gives back to the people.Have the Boholanos been benefited
               by this leader's reign? To put it literally has he been like a Robin Hood giving back his
               booty that he stole from the people's taxes to the people? Quite an irony is it not?
               Chatto I surmise has remained true to form but unlike the Ampatuans who have lorded it
               over Maguindanao, we have I suppose a better leader.Need I say more?

               Food for thought: Why are we all praises for Aumentado when for a fact his projects are
               gargantuan than any or all of our three congressmen combined? Did you know that under
               his efforts no less than 20B worth of mega projects came to Bohol's way? Do your math
               people and use a scientific calculator to check up on the billions!
               No wonder they keep coming back in the guise of public service!


Cesar Montano-  Unlike Chatto  he may seem the least guilty of corruption not having been in actual
              public service. But does this spare him as though he were squeaky clean? Last 2007 he
              was all gungho about running for governor.This enthusiasm and fervor was doused with a
              complete turnaround for the senate. Both Chatto and Montano had been figures in this
              funny political reality called buyout and although they stood at opposite sides of the fence,
              albeit, history spoke with the election results and we can fairly conclude who was the buyer
              and who was bought. Quite an interesting fact.
              No one would be so stupid to run for a higher office prodded upon by the powers that be
              without any concessions. Considering that to mount a nationwide campaign entails
              millions your guess is as good as mine!
              When we talk of advocacy and passion for public service or compassion for our fellow
              Boholanos despite your comfortable stature in life, we as voters should dig deeper.Unlike
              chatto who stuck to his party and swallowed his idealism for the comforts of being in the
              administration, cesar has jumped from one party to another. First he ran under GMA
              then swore in to chiz NPC before finally settling with Noynoy's LP. Nothing wrong in this
              perhaps but talking about a deep sense of advocacy and commitment,I just wonder.
              On this scale and if we are truly for change I must admit we are in for a big surprise. This
              change is by far superficial at best. Same dog with different collars!


            Food for thought: A wise man once scolded a young woman for vigorously warding off the
                                   hundreds of flies that swarmed upon a poor beggar's wounds.
                                   the woman retorted, Sir this man could die.
                                   To this the old sage said, If you drive these flies off, a thousand more
                                   hungry flies would take its place,suck more blood and leave him dead in
                                   seconds.
                                   
            Guys wrack your brains in thought and enjoy the holidays!       



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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #67 on: December 17, 2009, 05:29:38 PM »
Edgar, dali ra maduol.     Cesar, wala ko kabalo.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #68 on: December 17, 2009, 05:54:39 PM »
kung sa boksing pa or any sports in that matter.... MISMATCH.....bwahahahahaha ;D :) ;D

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #69 on: December 17, 2009, 06:13:43 PM »
sir sal i have a hypothetical question which you might be able to answer. if a person was paid not to run anymore or lets just say back-out on an elective post and subsequently recieved another amount just to run for a higher elective post. my question is, can we label this person as a "trapo"? .... or can we assume this person would be a "trapo"-in-the-making? .... libug gyud ko ??? ..... hehehehehe :D

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« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2009, 06:44:33 PM »
To be honest about it that person is for all intents and purposes a TRAPO!
Because you know why? How do we define a trapo?
 A politician who acts and thinks the conventional way, meaning money plays a powerful role in his psyche. While we may agree that it is very difficult to run a political machinery without money no doubt, the traditional politician is one who plays the game and is very much into the game.Nio distinction is made whether you are a new entrant or an old dog but if you are in its mold then you fit it to a tee.

If you walk like a duck and quack like a duck you are a duck no matter how hard you try to disguise yourself as a swan.

Kanang pagkatrapo  is a matter of orientation. Even if you are new and you learned your politics from the likes of GMA,SINGSON and from the admin what else could you be?

A sincere advocate for change? This blows me away!
So all the more let's beware. And this is the tricky part, how to distinguish what is being offered to us.
The days ahead will bring more insights. As the campaign draws near we can slowly and surely peel off the layers to unmask the real person beneath the pretty face.

Please feel free to share your insights as well.Like the twisted plot to a sordid movie, surprise is just around the corner!




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« Reply #71 on: December 17, 2009, 06:59:11 PM »
thanks sir sal for the answer :) .... btw, is it safe to say that a person who goes from one party to another (LAKAS to NP to LP) is also a "trapo"? :o

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« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2009, 07:37:14 PM »
You bet nat-cast. How else would you characterize a person who exhibits ficklemindedness? Ngano magbalhinbalhin man? If not to serve self interest. This is the hallmark of a trapo as the saying goes, in politics there are no permanent friends but interests. This is typical trapo BS and should be the kind of politics we should avoid. Have you ever wondered why we always end up in a rotten system no matter how lofty we strive to be?

This is a vicious circle, hard to break.And when you and I tend to think this way, that politics is addition therefore we play the game to please everyone, then surely we are slowly becoming one. Real politics  should be characterized by issues,stands and advocacies. Only when we start to realize that politics is not about addition and pleasing everyone then we begin to mature as a people and only then can we safely say that we have risen above this traditional mould and are therefore harbingers of real change!

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2009, 07:46:23 PM »
Kining mga politiko kadaghanan puwahun ug lobot way baruganan mag sigi lang na sila ug balhin balhin ilabina ug makakita ug pabor sa pikas, kusug kaajo na sila mo ngisi ug magkaway kaway sa mga tawo pag hapit na ang election piro kung maka pwisto na magpabungol bungol na sila.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2009, 09:43:16 PM »
depende na sa bag-o nga mo enter sa politics naay bag-o nga walay alamag naa pud bag-o nga makamao or naay alamag...pero kini si montano labaw pa ni nakahibalo kay sa mga daan na...mas inila pa gyud kaysa duha. take note ha...dili lang ni siya ordinaryo nga pagka artista multi awarded actor,director ug ambassador pa gyud (UNESCO).Meaning makamao gyud... Kung paestoryahon ang mga govt employees,barangay officials,municipal officials/employees kusog si chatto ug herrera pero wala ba mo kahibalo nga perting kusuga si montano sa mga dili officials ug govt employees..pila raba mo bai nga officials? kami nga naa sa ubos ang daghan ang dili maabot sa inyong survey. daghan ang walay internet nga dili maka vote online ni montano thats why i dont believe surveys. kanang naglaroylaroy nga mi survey diha kutob ra pud na sa mga barangay officials kay kapuyan na mo tagsa tagsa sa mga taw ug pangutana.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2009, 11:23:42 PM »
Salamat, sir, Sal, for sharing your own comparison between the two.

So looks like Cesar is the underdog in terms of public service, leadership, experience, education and even

the manner of speaking.

Just reminds me of Pacquaio. When he came to the international scene of boxing, he was the underdog.

The rest is history but his public speaking in English or our native language remains his greatest weakenesses

and the laughing stock. Pacman has the last laugh.

Boxing and politics similar? Maybe, someone likened it, so they are both brutal and dirty bloodied contact sports.

People are criticizing Cesar for not being approachable, kanang dili mado-ol.

I am not sure how anyone can characterize somebody like him nga mibisita siya sa usa ka baryo

nga nabiktima sa lunop, si Aumentado no credible evidence nga mibisita, ang mismo mayor sa maong

lungsod no show, and I can excuse Edgar kay dili man niya district. By the way, Hererra visited the place, just an FYI.

I remember one time an election was held between Marcos and Cabangbang.

Of course, we Filipinos were fooled by the glaring formidable qualifications of one candidate.

That was a big mismatch....he he he he...

Again, the rest is history.

When do we learn that holding political elected office is not a permanent job?

They should have other life og tinood gyud sila nga maayo, di ba?

The way I see it, the more time these politicians cling to the job, anha na mogawas ang

tinood nga color sa ilang pagkatawo. They think they are invincible.

Again, Marcos is one example, then the Arroyos, and the vicious cycle never ends.

Who is the "one" in Bohol? Abangan...

Again, Sal, thanks for the thought-provoking comparison and for now, my route

is still the road for change....i like to discover new people and what they can

do no matter how midget they are....be they are intelligent, below average,

or whatever. It's fun.

Merry Christmas again.







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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2009, 11:37:05 PM »
ahhh.... mao diay na tua ron si montano sa gensan, sa birthday ni pakyaw. nangayo tingali tu sya ug pointers/tips from pakyaw ..... ahihihihihihi ;D

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« Reply #77 on: December 17, 2009, 11:44:11 PM »
unya si edgar diin nakakuha og tip nga mahimong lifetime politician? Marcos or Arroyo?....ho ho ho ho.. :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2009, 03:40:28 AM »
Edgar is still young comparar ni Arroyo ug Marcos.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2009, 09:48:41 PM »
hello sa mga supporters ni montano!!!!!!!!!

montano gyud ta bai ha walay balhinay.

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« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2009, 09:50:14 PM »
taga clarin,,kinsay mi run pagka mayor diha?

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2009, 11:00:21 PM »
moasabot jod ka-abusado na si rommel manhilot kon modaog ang iya brod. btw, unsaon man tawon pagkadaog ni cesar nga wa man bisan mga coordinator na lang sa mga kalungsuran?

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« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2009, 11:18:23 PM »
tungod ba kay lawom ug bulsa? ??? ahihihihihihihi

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« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2009, 11:22:59 PM »
taga clarin,,kinsay mi run pagka mayor diha?

3 ang midagan...2 mga recycled(old politicians back-up by the provncl govt) ...

1 bag-o si judil simbajon og ang bese niya si mawe basio

....ingdagan lang intaon ning mga bag-o bisag kulang sa political machineries tungod sa katingad-an
 nga mga funds(like the calamity) nga grabe jud ka-questionable...og pangu-taon gi-unsa...pabuang-bu**** lang...
unya ang mga medisina, dili ihatag og dili mayor ang mopirma...kabuang na, mayor pa, pharmacist
 og doktor pa jud ang "other jobs"...
ambot oi, mga edukado man unta ni
sila, malibat man basta kwarta na....
na-a pay daghan kahibulongan sa among lugar sa mun. projects konohay,
 nag-gather pa mi og ubang ebendisya unsay mahimo namu...
that's why i really don't like kining mga kara-ang politicians bisag kinsa pa na sila kay they
 think they are "entitled" or their "right" to such
and such elected posts because of backing from the same oldie politicians of the top
....og ma-ayong laki or baje  na sila nganong dili man mo-train/educate og laing tawo
 o di ba do  a a private ventures og masaler ilang "formidable qualifications"....

merry christmas nalang.

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« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2009, 12:34:49 AM »
Here you go guys bring in your weighing scales and have fun!
        
 
                                           Edgar Chatto                                         Cesar Montano

Qualifications                   Lawyer UP school of economics               Veteran Actor/director masscom
                                 awarded legislator,student leader                broadcast journalism,Lyceum
                                                                                              correspondence course


Public service exp          KB President,Brd Member,Vice-Gov.             none.Ran for senator but lost.
                                  Congressman                                                                                  


Civic Involvement         Past Pres.Jaycees,Leo                                none

Philanthrophic involvement  Charitable doleouts through PDAF            Panaghoy children Foundation

Business                      flower shop and review center                 CM Film Productions,Bellissimo Rest.
                                 ran by wife

Residences                  Quezon city,tagbilaran,Balilihan                Houses in Manila,Baclayon and some
                                                                                           farm property in Bulacan

Personality                  Approachable,Politician epitome,travels      Charismatic,typical celebrity,travels
                                with one or two aides                             with an entourage

Temper                       No known outbursts,level headed               Hot tempered,together with his brother
                                                                                           have figured in some celebrity fights in
                                                                                           the past

Physical Image           Average looking,physically disabled              Good-looking,physically fit,macho

Public Projection         Good speaker,eloquent                              below average,stutters,talks in circles

Family Image             Family man,no known indiscretions               sired children with different women,
                                                                                           typical actor

Religious Orientation    Devout Catholic                                       Born again Christian like most
                                                                                           showbiz personalities

Public Perception       Trapo                                                      New breed


 

Edgar Chatto has a wealth of experience behind him and quite literally having been in Congress for 3 terms
               you can do your math and voila you have one wealthy legislator. Say the average
               congressman's PDAF is about 70M per year not including the budgetary insertions and at a
               minimum of just 10% you have a whopping 63M SOP.But soft projects such as livelihood
               command at least 35-40% in kickbacks. You can just imagine the wealth a politician can
               accumulate over the years. But in fairness to Chatto, don't we see a multitude of projects
               road concreting,schoolbuildings,etc in his district? Not to mention some brilliant legislation
               as the Tourism Act ,etc. All told this is what is meant by a "competent corrupt". All these
               is institutionalized in our rotten system of politics. Thus how do we gauge a leader in this
               regard?
               By the amount of effort he gives back to the people.Have the Boholanos been benefited
               by this leader's reign? To put it literally has he been like a Robin Hood giving back his
               booty that he stole from the people's taxes to the people? Quite an irony is it not?
               Chatto I surmise has remained true to form but unlike the Ampatuans who have lorded it
               over Maguindanao, we have I suppose a better leader.Need I say more?

               Food for thought: Why are we all praises for Aumentado when for a fact his projects are
               gargantuan than any or all of our three congressmen combined? Did you know that under
               his efforts no less than 20B worth of mega projects came to Bohol's way? Do your math
               people and use a scientific calculator to check up on the billions!
               No wonder they keep coming back in the guise of public service!


Cesar Montano-  Unlike Chatto  he may seem the least guilty of corruption not having been in actual
              public service. But does this spare him as though he were squeaky clean? Last 2007 he
              was all gungho about running for governor.This enthusiasm and fervor was doused with a
              complete turnaround for the senate. Both Chatto and Montano had been figures in this
              funny political reality called buyout and although they stood at opposite sides of the fence,
              albeit, history spoke with the election results and we can fairly conclude who was the buyer
              and who was bought. Quite an interesting fact.
              No one would be so stupid to run for a higher office prodded upon by the powers that be
              without any concessions. Considering that to mount a nationwide campaign entails
              millions your guess is as good as mine!
              When we talk of advocacy and passion for public service or compassion for our fellow
              Boholanos despite your comfortable stature in life, we as voters should dig deeper.Unlike
              chatto who stuck to his party and swallowed his idealism for the comforts of being in the
              administration, cesar has jumped from one party to another. First he ran under GMA
              then swore in to chiz NPC before finally settling with Noynoy's LP. Nothing wrong in this
              perhaps but talking about a deep sense of advocacy and commitment,I just wonder.
              On this scale and if we are truly for change I must admit we are in for a big surprise. This
              change is by far superficial at best. Same dog with different collars!


            Food for thought: A wise man once scolded a young woman for vigorously warding off the
                                   hundreds of flies that swarmed upon a poor beggar's wounds.
                                   the woman retorted, Sir this man could die.
                                   To this the old sage said, If you drive these flies off, a thousand more
                                   hungry flies would take its place,suck more blood and leave him dead in
                                   seconds.
                                  
            Guys wrack your brains in thought and enjoy the holidays!      


Eddie Chatto:

Public service exp          KB President,Brd Member,Vice-Gov., Congressman.

please take note that eddie bame a board member because he was the KB president in Bohol. So he was seating as an ex-officio member in the provincial board that time. after that he became mayor for 3 straight terms in balilihan before becoming a vice-gov and eventually became congressman.

tinuod jud nga dali kaayo na maduol si eddie. pirme ko makaanha sa silang balay. siya pud makaanha sa balay sa akong ugangan. kaila sad na siya sa akong papa. in short tanang taga balilihan bilib jud kaayo ana niya. pero dili man na maoy sumbanan kung ang usa ka tawo nakahimo ba sa tahas nga gisangon ka niya sa dihang gi-elect siya ug usa posisyon. naay daghang aspeto nga wala matuman ug makita sad nato nga pipila ra ang nabulahan.

akong gipangalyupo nga unta inig lingkod niyang gobernador pohon, nga unta iyang hatagan pagtagad ang mga ginagmay nga problema sa mga yahong lungsoranon sama kanato. kay kani bisan ginagmay ra pero maoy sagad madungog nato kay mao may nasinati sa kinabag-an.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #86 on: December 19, 2009, 09:05:39 AM »


akong gipangalyupo nga unta inig lingkod niyang gobernador pohon, nga unta iyang hatagan pagtagad ang mga ginagmay nga problema sa mga yahong lungsoranon sama kanato. kay kani bisan ginagmay ra pero maoy sagad madungog nato kay mao may nasinati sa kinabag-an.

Unsa man pananglit ang gagmay'ng mga problema nga dapat hatagan ug pagtagad sa mga elected nga politico bai BnC?

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #87 on: December 19, 2009, 10:31:52 AM »
Para nako dili nato tanan ibasol ngadto sa atong mga gipangpili nga mga lider sa kagamhanan kon dili kita usab nga mga katawhan, kitang mga botante kay kita man maoy nagbutang nila diha. Sa mga politiko nga kusog mogasto ug kuarta panahon sa election, unsa man diay inyong gi expect in return? naa pay uban diha mopili ug lider kay sikat! pastilan...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #88 on: December 19, 2009, 11:32:28 AM »
...sikatchupoy..... ;D bwahahahahaha

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #89 on: December 19, 2009, 11:36:39 AM »
maayo na lang gani kay wala modayon ug lansad si Amay bisaya.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #90 on: December 19, 2009, 11:40:18 AM »
nakabasa raba ko sauna na ng hambug sya na pildihon niya si montano ;D

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« Reply #91 on: December 19, 2009, 12:04:17 PM »
hahaha nat wala man bayad gud manghambog.

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« Reply #92 on: December 19, 2009, 04:18:27 PM »
Unsaon kaha kon modaog si Ceasar.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #93 on: December 19, 2009, 07:25:39 PM »
tagaclarin judil simbajon is a barangay captain of bonbon clarin? i know and met her before during our seminar in bohol tropics... she's smart i think. is it true that she's graduated as cum laude (accounting) in uv cebu?

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #94 on: December 19, 2009, 08:56:25 PM »
kung modaog si montano .... naay mga brazilian models mag suroy-suroy sa capitolyo .... yehey ;D

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #95 on: December 20, 2009, 06:04:31 AM »
Aguy puro hubag raba gyud kasagaran nga mga Brazilian girls. Kanunay duna koy mga International students from Brazil puros gyud hubag.


kung modaog si montano .... naay mga brazilian models mag suroy-suroy sa capitolyo .... yehey ;D

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #96 on: December 20, 2009, 10:55:38 AM »
Mga paisano ensakto jod mo. Ingon ana kataphaw ang atong liderato kung madaog si Cesar. Nakabasa ba mo sa headline sa news karon sa Bohol Chronicle? Iyang maayong laki nga igsoon gireprimand sa dakagkoan sa PASG sa Manila. Ang maot pa dunay negosyante nga taga Tubigon mireklamo kay gikotongan sa iyang mga bata2x. Ang akong dungog naa siyay tawo nga TagaTubigon nga tagalog naminyo og taga didto nga operatiba sa PASG.
Mao ni storya2x sa mga taga didto nga hambogero og abusado ni tawhana.Mr. tagaClarin dool na man na sa inyoha can you please check and verify? This was witnessed by a security guard at the pier,ang kanang pangotong nila.
The worst part of it matod pa sa iyang igsoon, sanction ni Montano ang pagpanakop ni Rommel.Daghan diay smuggling sa Bohol? He he he.
The elections are yet far away and this cannot be treated again as political. Kanang igsoon ni cesar mao nay makaguba niya. Og simbako magobernador dili lang mga Brazilian models magrampa2x sa capitolyo kung dili mga astig na mga tawo pa jod! pagka looy na lang jod sa atong probinsiya!
Mitagam ta ni Erap unya magpalalo pa ta pagusab.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #97 on: December 20, 2009, 11:48:49 AM »
unsa man diay naka maot og naay daghang mag suroy2x nga brazilian sa kapitolyo, di pa mo  ana nga naay masagol nga piskayon diha sa kapitolyo...

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #98 on: December 20, 2009, 12:23:11 PM »
nakabati btaw ko ani adtong friday, nahisgutan ni panahon sa governors report didto sa mansion.

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Re: Bohol Gov Voting: Cesar Montano vs Edgar Chatto
« Reply #99 on: December 20, 2009, 12:30:38 PM »
The worst part of it matod pa sa iyang igsoon, sanction ni Montano ang pagpanakop ni Rommel.Daghan diay smuggling sa Bohol? He he he.
The elections are yet far away and this cannot be treated again as political.

Really, sal? cannot be treated as political?
I doubt about it.
Ikaw ra ang nag-ingon nga hugaw ang pamolitika sa atua, so being a respected blogger, ing-too ko nimu.
Anything happens around, dirty politics have something to do about it.
For now, sal, i give everyone the benefit of the doubt, pero more doubtful pa jud ko sa nga
kara-ang politician og main stream media kun asa sila dapig....i know so many controversies
around pero walay coverage. Why? Let me know your guess.
Hint: how many journalists murdered around the country?
PI is number one currently around the world, lupig pa ang Iraq,  baby!

Yeah, I like those Brazilan babies, rather than those old-same-faces freakin'- politicians.
They are tourist attractions like the tarsiers.....lol!
Labi na sa mga local playboyon nga  tourists....he he he.


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