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Re: Tourist Bus Hostage
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2010, 01:47:17 AM »


Mao ning mga polisa nga mi respondi sa hostage crisis.
Pastilan mga tiguwang man pud diay...napay usa nga "polis" nga way "posil",mga talawan,nanago pa gyud! :o

ang kauban man lagi nyang pulis gitionan?shamaaan

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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2010, 02:56:18 AM »
There was control by the police during the course of the hostage drama which started at around 7am. Onlookers are barred and even reporters are not allowed to go near the bus. It was just the police acted slowly and they had to rely from the statement of the bus driver who escaped who told them that all hostages are dead at the time of his escape. Aside from that, they were not able to verify or re-negotiate with capt. mendoza about his new demands. Most of the SWAT operatives of MPD are not ready in this kind of situation as you can see some of their members are so relax. Some seen just wearing a bullcap and just standing beside the bus as if he's waiting for someone to come down. They throw tear gas without them wearing gas masks. As you can see when they entered the bus for the clearing operation, they were not wearing anything. Some of them are only wearing surgical masks. So they got stinged by the gas and they went out gasping for air and tearing eyed. Good thing it was raining, they just wiped their eyes with water from the downpour.
The video reached the whole world and the whole world are laughing at our police operatives most specially the SWAT operatives who are considered an elite police unit.

grabe jud,bnc,kay nakapanghinaway ug samot ako bana sa mga police esp those policemen whom we noticed na wala nag suot ug vest. feeling man kaau nila dili sila madutlan oy!

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« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2010, 03:15:09 AM »
no comment ko ani kay it happened everywhere,Sa America may student nga namusil sab ug fellow student daghan guihapon iyang napatay usa siya na neutralize..to think that US SWAT are fully trained armed to the teeth pero palpak lang guihapon ang operation mao sab ang nahitabo diri sa UK nga taxi driver ga amok last month daghan na iyang napatay unya daghan pa nga oras milabay usa siya na neutralize,,So in fairness ayaw lab sab tamaya ang mga pulis sa Philippines..They are doing their best bisan kulang sila ug equipment ug armas and most of them naka duty sa Mindanao mao nga very well trained in combat, bisan ug walay bullet proof vest sulong lang guihapon kay gustong e rescue ang hostage..I doubt if other policeman in other part of the world can do this..

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Re: Tourist Bus Hostage
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2010, 04:29:36 AM »
grabe jud,bnc,kay nakapanghinaway ug samot ako bana sa mga police esp those policemen whom we noticed na wala nag suot ug vest. feeling man kaau nila dili sila madutlan oy!
mura ra man to sila ug nagduwa-duwa mine. bantug ra dili jud kadaug ang mga NCR police kung naay nationwide contest sa hostage crisis kay dili man sila kahibalo. pirme lang daug ang CCPO.taga cebu nalang unta to ilang gitawag aron mo-handle ato. :)

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Re: Tourist Bus Hostage
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2010, 05:13:22 AM »
This sad incident could be happened everywhere!  The only big problem is....the Pilipino policemen has no complete equipment and experience training for such rescue!

It is a quite embarrashing media report!  RIP to all victims. :(  Mosamot wa nay mo tour sa Pilipinas!

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Re: Tourist Bus Hostage
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2010, 06:23:09 AM »
Bitaw bisan asang lugara naa  jud ning mag hurimentado.Usa ray lesson ani dapat ug tourist ta di ta mosakay ug bus labi na naay sign nga tourist kay murag nangamay tag come here ana sa mga dautang tawo.
Ug ako poy police ug swat oi di pud ko mosungsong ug atraka hayahaya man.
Seriously nagtan aw ko sa news daghan jud unta time nga pwede nila patyon si Mendoza.Kapila to siya nagpapilit ug note nganong wa targeta.

Sa U.S bali kay very extreme ang pag response hehehe diri kay bisan ingkirig ka kay nagpanick paspas kaayo ang police makapusil ug teaser nimo.

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« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2010, 06:49:47 AM »
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Rolando Mendoza knew he was not going to come out alive of the bus he had seized with 25 people aboard, mostly Hong Kong Chinese, when SWAT teams began moving toward the van parked in front of Quirino Grandstand as night fell Monday.

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Re: Tourist Bus Hostage
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2010, 07:06:43 AM »
wala kaha ni dakong tawo nagpaluyo aning maong hostage taking? ahem...
duda ko kunsabo ang driver. giunsa gud niya pagkabuhi sa posas? nganong iya man gipasakay ang maong tawo nga dili man to turista?

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Police Came too Late
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2010, 08:21:42 AM »
By Polly Hui
Agence France-Presse

HONG KONG—A survivor of a dramatic hostage siege in the Philippine capital which left eight Hong Kong tourists dead Monday accused the authorities of acting too late and turning a blind eye to their ordeal.

The Hong Kong woman, who identified herself as Mrs Leung, told reporters that her husband was killed as he tried to stop ex-policeman Rolando Mendoza from attacking other passengers on their tour bus in Manila.

Leung, still in shock as she was carried out from the bus following a 12-hour standoff, demanded to know why Manila police came to their rescue so late.

"It's too late. Why were there no one to help us after so many hours?" she said at the scene of the siege, in comments broadcast on Hong Kong's Cable TV.

"There were so many people on the bus – no one came to our rescue. Why? For money? Sacrificing so many lives for money? We were in fear for so many hours. I find it really cruel."

Leung said her husband sacrificed himself for others on the bus. "I actually really wanted to die with him. But I think of my children."

"I miss him," she said in tears.

She said she did not know the whereabouts of three children, aged 14, 18, and 21, who were also held on the bus.

Doctors took care of another woman, released from the bus by the gunman with three children, as she was overcome with emotion, wrongly believing that all the hostages had been killed, according to a spokeswoman for the travel company running the trip.

"Because of various sources of information, she had for a while thought that everyone who remained on the bus was killed," Susanna Lau, general manager of Hong Thai Travel, said.

The tragedy began when disgruntled ex-policeman Mendoza, armed with an M-16 assault rifle, hijacked the busload of Hong Kong visitors in Manila's tourist district in a desperate bid to get his job back.

Negotiations broke down after nightfall when the gunman began shooting the passengers, and commandos stormed the bus.

Police said Mendoza was shot dead by a sniper after he used his captives as "human shields" in the final moments of the siege.

The Hong Kong government lamented the "tragedy" of the siege.

"The way it is handled – particularly the outcome – is very disappointing. It is a tragedy because a pleasure trip has ended up with casualties and injuries," the city's Chief Executive Donald Tsang said.

Tsang urged the Filipino authorities to provide a full account of the deadly incident to the Hong Kong government.


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Re: Tourist Bus Hostage
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2010, 02:59:57 PM »
syempre pulis kunuhay nang ning para abi niya ug for protection ang purpose mao pasakay niya. kay ug ming ingon pa tong pulis nga mang hostage siya aw siguro kaboang tong driver ug bijog padagan asa kaha to punita tong bus sa ka lisang sa driver basin adto to sa dagat kay dagat man ang unahan anang lugar basin ug mag lisud na pod ang mga pulis ug pangita kay ming lubog na ang bus sa ilawon patay gihapon sila tanan hehehehe...


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« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2010, 03:57:27 PM »
Arang ka subo nga adlaw, baha na pag-ajo daghan pang nangaamong atong nanghostage. As of today, 9 na ang patay nga tourists, 10 in all akip ang hostage taker.

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« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2010, 05:23:47 PM »
It's HongKong's fault, they should have sent Jet Li to Manila. It's only a 1-1/2 hr flight anyway...bwahahaha kulirez..! ^_^

bwahaahaha! nalingaw man nuon ko aning imong komentos blue!!weee  tama ;D hahaha  ;D

infairness d masabtan ang atong gipambati atong mga panghitabo..makatawa ka, makapungot og makashagit kas kakuyaw sa maong eksena murag nagduwa-duwa lng cla or murag sama sa nagtan-aw kag nagshooting sa pelikula nga dta katuo sa maong live na panghitabo..daghan tag mga reaction sa mga pagpanglimbasog sa mga police na unta marescue nila ang mga hostages inside sa bus..ang impak sa panghitabo..daut o guba nasad atong nasud sa turismo haist..subo kaUng paminawon :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2010, 07:36:59 PM »
Hala pag-ampo diha Sabinaaa  ;D

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« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2010, 08:16:49 PM »
kita mo sa police nga nag labay sa teargas canister? feeling james yap man nya wa ka shoot! hahaha

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« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2010, 12:50:23 AM »
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« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2010, 12:58:30 AM »
syempre pulis kunuhay nang ning para abi niya ug for protection ang purpose mao pasakay niya. kay ug ming ingon pa tong pulis nga mang hostage siya aw siguro kaboang tong driver ug bijog padagan asa kaha to punita tong bus sa ka lisang sa driver basin adto to sa dagat kay dagat man ang unahan anang lugar basin ug mag lisud na pod ang mga pulis ug pangita kay ming lubog na ang bus sa ilawon patay gihapon sila tanan hehehehe...


the tourist hired a photographer and had a photo session with them early on that fareful morning. when the tourists boarded back in the bus, capt. mendoza was already with them wearing a type b uniform and a cap. bringing with him an M16 rifle, a hunting knife, 45 pistol and ammo. the photographer noticed him so he was confronted that's the time he pulled out his gun and announced that he's holding everyone hostage and told the driver to bring them to roxas blvd on the way to quirino grandstand.

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« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2010, 10:35:22 AM »
Naunsa man hinoon nga hasta mga  tiguwang nga pulis apil sa responder
 plus nakalimot pa gyud dala sa iyang  pusil..gunit lang sa punuan sa kahoy
 embarrassing ug makapahimuot, etc.   ::) pulos naratol sila tanan...

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« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2010, 02:22:51 PM »
this is a very bad image for us as a tourist country.

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« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2010, 07:55:00 AM »


didto 'sab si spiderman sa hostage scene - pero nahadlok mosulod sa bus kay basin siya na hinoon maigo sa sniper o kaha sa tiguwang nga pulis hehe ehehehe

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« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2010, 08:02:45 AM »
 A new meaning for SWAT in the Philippines... Sorry Were Also Tourist >:(

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« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2010, 08:24:30 AM »
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Three of the eight Hong Kong tourists who were killed in the tourist bus siege were Canadian citizens, a police spokesman disclosed on Wednesday.

But Senior Superintendent Agrimero Cruz Jr. would not disclose the names of these victims and would just leave it up to the Department of Foreign Affairs to name them.

Cruz said that upon verification, while the three victims bore Chinese names, they were actually Canadian citizens.

Meanwhile, it was still unclear if the autopsy report on the eight victims and the hostage-taker, Senior Inspector Rolando Mendoza, would be released today.

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« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2010, 08:53:38 AM »
grabe jud,bnc,kay nakapanghinaway ug samot ako bana sa mga police esp those policemen whom we noticed na wala nag suot ug vest. feeling man kaau nila dili sila madutlan oy!

dili tanan dunay issue nga bullet vest, only selected units, pero ibaligya dayon sa mga civilian kay kinahanglan man kwarta pang-beerhouse, sharge..ishang bikining itim pa! beeeer pa day

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« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2010, 09:01:29 AM »
dili tanan dunay issue nga bullet vest, only selected units, pero ibaligya dayon sa mga civilian kay kinahanglan man kwarta pang-beerhouse, para mahatagan ug bikining itim...

granting na selected units ra,but from what i learned basta naa daw operation,magvest jud daw dapat ang police. so ang kadtong ubang police na wala nagvest,ila na diay gibaligya ila vests.so bahalag mamatay diay basta natagaan ug bikining itim,hehehe.

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« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2010, 09:29:01 AM »
but in fairness to our brother policemen, duna baya pod tarung sa serbisyo nila...di' lang nato ikalimod nga naa 'jud pod pila ka mga badlungon@#!?///>

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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2010, 03:55:21 PM »


Mao ning mga polisa nga mi respondi sa hostage crisis.
Pastilan mga tiguwang man pud diay...napay usa nga "polis" nga way "posil",mga talawan,nanago pa gyud! :o

Fake man ni... edited -- giErase ang posil then gipulihan ang ulo.  :P



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« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2010, 04:03:07 PM »
ikapilang adlaw naman karon since the incident pero balik2x lang gihapon gipangutana sa mga kauban nako nga mga locals then naa pa moingon ug "hey, what happen to your police?" then usa pa ngano daw naa "fat men" sa philippine police.

what a day... a friend in HK told me na dapat doble nga amping lang daw sila kanunay if possible likay sa mga tapok2x to be safe.

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« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2010, 12:24:29 AM »
A new meaning for SWAT in the Philippines... Sorry Were Also Tourist >:(
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« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2010, 01:47:42 AM »
abi nako "Sorry Wala Akong Training" - SWAT.
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  lisud ni bai, sorry wa koi ikatampu ani. wa ko kabalo kinsai atong i-blame ani. daghang angulo ang atong i-consider. kon kamu sa lugar sa mga polis, unsa man inyong buhaton? sa negotiator unsa pud inyo buhaton? kung kamu pud ang naa sa lugar sa nang hostage, unsa pud?

   daghana oi!

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« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2010, 06:29:59 AM »
kung ako ang naa sa maong sitwasyon unya naa koy saktong training sa hostage negotiation siguro dili maing adto. kung kita mo sa negotiation during the early stage of the hostage drama, nakigstorya si mendoza sa 2 ka negotiator nga relax kaayo diha sa pultahan sa bus nga murag gisungkod ang armas. ang distance nila duol jud kaayo murag nagchika ra. kadto nga sitwasyon kung ilang gihunahuna ang pag neutralize sa hostage taker human na unta. 2 batok 1 plus abli kaayo ang pultahan.

dili ko expert pero bisan kinsa makakita ato makaingon jud nga kuwang ang training.

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« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2010, 08:25:24 AM »


Mao ning mga polisa nga mi respondi sa hostage crisis.
Pastilan mga tiguwang man pud diay...napay usa nga "polis" nga way "posil",mga talawan,nanago pa gyud! :o

Could you blame him for hiding ? He probably close to retirement...

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« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2010, 08:42:50 AM »
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« Reply #72 on: August 27, 2010, 07:22:44 PM »
kung ako ang naa sa maong sitwasyon unya naa koy saktong training sa hostage negotiation siguro dili maing adto. kung kita mo sa negotiation during the early stage of the hostage drama, nakigstorya si mendoza sa 2 ka negotiator nga relax kaayo diha sa pultahan sa bus nga murag gisungkod ang armas. ang distance nila duol jud kaayo murag nagchika ra. kadto nga sitwasyon kung ilang gihunahuna ang pag neutralize sa hostage taker human na unta. 2 batok 1 plus abli kaayo ang pultahan.

dili ko expert pero bisan kinsa makakita ato makaingon jud nga kuwang ang training.

Nahimong kataw-anan bitaw ang pag responde sa Hostage Crisis adtong Lunes, makauulaw nga pamalandungon nga ang atong SWAT walay advance na panghunahuna ug plano, murag gaagad sila sa Hostage taker gapa-uyon lang sila, wala silay priority plan na kung makakita ug luag nga higayon dapat e attack na nila ang hostage taker, kay matag patak sa relo para sa mga kinabuhi sa mga nahostage kini mahinungdanon, kulang sila ug pagsabotsabot  sa negotiator ug sa SWAT ground commander, kay kung nag analyze sila dili unta muabot sa ingon adto nga punto, daghan mga higayon nga luag ang securidad sa mga hostage.  Sa dihang makig estorya si Rolando sa mga negotiator, dapat didto sa likod sa bus duna nay mga attack team nga mo pwesto sa bus bisag 3 lang ka tao mo tago didto sa ilalum sa bus aron dili makita sa side mirror, ug unya maghulat na lang sila ug signal sa ground commander to attack inig makig istorya napod ang hostage taker sa mga negotiator, ga posing posing pa si Rolando didto sa pultahan kung ilang gi bunlot pagawas sa duha ka negotiator then dayong attack sa mga ground forces human na unta safety pa ang mga na hostage.   :(

Usa pod nga nakadaut kay gi live coverage pa ang panghitabo, kitang kita sa monitor sa sud sa bus.

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« Reply #73 on: August 27, 2010, 08:38:21 PM »
You were right vinz but that was not possible since our irresponsible media was giving Mendoza a blow-by-blow coverage of the whole situation, and the hostage-taker was watching/monitoring the live video on the bus tv. In fact media reports mentioned the specific, exact locations of snipers which should not have been broadcast in public and that too reached Mendoza's knowledge. Mendoza knew everything that was happening outside. He was enraged when he saw on TV that his brother was arrested by the police.

Police should have ordered the f-u-c-k-i-ng ABS-CBN and GMA 7, both money-profit-driven channels, to flee from the hostage scene.

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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2010, 03:16:50 AM »
I got this as an email ;

Mga pards,

 Bobby Kalaw, HS’71, narrated to me how his son, Christian, had an encounter with hostage taker, Mendoza, in 2008.

Christian drove that night to Torre Lorenzo on Vito Cruz to drop off a laptop at the lobby. He parked on a vacant slot along the road. When he came back to the car, there were cops beside his car. They accused him of illegal parking. When he asked them how can he be illegally parked when there were other cars parked in front and at the back of his car. “Pilosopo ka pala!” retorted one cop. “bukasan mo yung trunk”.

When Christian opened the trunk, the cop then threw marijuana and pills inside and accused Christian “drug user ka pala!” Christian then turned to the crowd that had gathered and shouted “kita ninyo nilagay!” The cop then turned to the crowd with his hand on his gun and asked “sino ang nakakita?” The crowd immediately turned away.

The cop then instructed Christian to sit at the driver’s seat. The cop then got the seatbelt and wrapped it around Christian’s neck and pulled. As Christian was choking, the cop pulled his head back and the other cop shoved shabu down his throat….“yan may shabu ka na sa sistema mo!”, the cop said. (Christian later told his dad that his stomach grumbled from the shabu)

The cops then boarded Christian’s car and ordered him to produce his ATM card. They then went to the nearest BPI branch where the cop was caught on video using the card to withdraw the money from Christian’s account (the Ombudsman used this piece of evidence to convict the cops).

They then drove to the precinct where Christian was brought to hostage-taker, Mendoza . Mendoza then instructed Christian to contact any body he wished who can give them the money for his release. Bobby Kalaw was in the province when his son called him up. Mendoza took the phone and told Bobby that his son is in jail for possession of illegal drugs and that he is a drug user. He then demanded P230,000 for his release. Bobby replied that he did not have that large amount of money.

By then, one of the friends that Christian contacted came with P20,000 in cash. The cops then released Christian.

Mayor Lim learned of this incident when he was in a speaking engagement in SFO. Some one in the crowd read to Mayor Lim, Bobby’s email warning his La Salle friends to beware of the police precinct in Malate and their modus operandi on students.

Mayor Lim, upon his return, sacked the whole precinct and transferred Mendoza to Mindanao .

The Ombudsman then filed the appropriate cases against all the cops in the precinct that resulted in their conviction. Bobby was hesitant to file a case because they have no witnesses, no medical report and no evidence. It was the Ombudsman that gathered the evidence that incriminated the cops.

Bobby learned from his niece that she knows of 5 other students that were victimized by the same cops using the same modus operandi.

Bobby and Christian have put this episode behind them and moved on. They do not wish to be a part in Mendoza ’s hostage-taking caper. Bobby even told GMA’s Mike Enriquez that since he has nothing good to say about Mendoza then he will just keep his mouth shut.

 




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« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2010, 03:37:51 AM »
Mga corrupt gyud diay,maayo ra natodas para wala nay laing biktimahon.

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« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2010, 03:43:51 AM »
Mga corrupt gyud diay,maayo ra natodas para wala nay laing biktimahon.

 State's, wala kuno pasodla sa DEVIL si Mendoza didto sa impyerno, kay unyag didto napod siya mang hostages! :D

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« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2010, 05:20:57 AM »
Dako ning sampal sa atong kapulisan.

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« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2010, 06:15:40 AM »
daghan man sad jud crooks in uniform. asa man ka kita ug police nga PO1-P03 ang ranggo nya nindot na kaayo ug balay ug sakyanan? only in the philippines.

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« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2010, 10:13:47 AM »
Mga corrupt gyud diay,maayo ra natodas para wala nay laing biktimahon.

kolira! natodas lagi pero nangamong pa jud....


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