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« on: November 02, 2007, 03:28:44 AM »
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Filipinos and Filipino-Americans had a mixed and considerably milder reaction to a remark by American comedian and talk show host Jimmy Kimmel, according to a report by the ABS-CBN North American News Bureau.

During his show "Jimmy Kimmel, Live!" aired over the ABC network on October 24, Kimmel told his guest, Hollywood actor Josh Hartnett, who had shot a film in the Philippines, that Filipinos probably couldn't speak English.

Harnett appeared on the show to talk about his film "I Come with the Rain", portions of which were shot in a remote mining colony in Mt. Diwalwal in Davao island.

Harnett told Kimmel that Filipinos in the mining town had never seen a white man in person, ever, and were thus "enamored" of the American film crew.

"Did you pretend you have powers?" Kimmel quipped.

The actor then mentioned that since the town had no government and no police force, he and the rest of the cast and crew had to be protected by Philippine Army troops.

Media reports say as many as two Philippine Army battalions guarded Hartnett and his companions for the week-long shoot.

"Did they care about you, the Filipino army, I mean, like, are they really gonna shoot it out with somebody?" asked Kimmel, to which Harnett replied that he never felt he was in any danger during the shoot.

Hartnett then mentioned that local authorities were concerned because they were cases of kidnapping in the area before the American crew arrived.

The following discussion ensued, obviously in jest.

"You weren't kidnapped at all?" asked Kimmel.

"Not at all, not even once," replied Hartnett.

"That's good news. That's a little bit nerve-wracking. Yeah, because especially in the
Philippines they probably don't speak English and no one could read the ransom note or anything," Kimmel said.

ABS-CBN North American Bureau Chief Ging Reyes reported that the incident happened even as Filipino-American community leaders are reconsidering a planned $500 million-dollar class suit against ABC network.

The class suit was first considered after the network aired an episode of "Desperate Housewives" that included some dialogue that Filipino doctors and medical schools found offensive.

However, some Fil-Ams are reportedly having second thoughts about the suit, believing that defamation laws in the United States favor TV networks and other media.

According to Filipino lawyer Ted Laguatan who is in-charge of the proposed class suit, Kimmel's remarks should not be taken too seriously. Still, Laguatan said he would still bring it up with the network's lawyers.

There were some angry responses posted by Filipinos on the YouTube forum that features the Kimmel-Hartnett clip, a few of them in grammatically incorrect English.

Still, the Filipino-Americans interviewed by Reyes agreed that Kimmel's remarks don't deserve the same outrage as the "Desperate Housewives" incident.


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Re: US talk Show Host says Filipinos Can't Speak English
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 06:25:16 AM »
I speak no english at all lol..

People no speak english, meo no speak english also ;D

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Re: US talk Show Host says Filipinos Can't Speak English
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 06:33:57 AM »
I don't consider it a defamation, and besides Jimmy is a comedian...

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Re: US talk Show Host says Filipinos Can't Speak English
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 11:01:26 AM »
Korek ka, ms belle...

dili nalang mo react...

hangtod ani, kada gamay nga butang, mo react ta...

murag medyo OA ra



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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 11:20:53 AM »
It only proves that, IF Jimmy was serious as he is always not serious on tv, then he knows nothing about the Pinoys thus he is ignoramus so why bother?  If we react every bit of stuff like this, then we are going to be so busy doing nothing.  As what my grandmother said, small business very hot! 

I think I shared this story already in another thread but I will just repeat it her.  There was one morning when 3 middle-aged people came knocking my door.  When I opened the door, I said Hello?  And they looked at me and said, Do you speak English?  I found it so funny!  I said, Ummm, I am not sure.  Do you? hahahha They apologized.

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 11:24:22 AM »
Ahahaha!

That's funny, Ms Grazie...

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2007, 11:32:39 AM »
hahahaha....mao ra na ako ikatubag...... ;D


Joker diay na siya no?Halinon baya ning ingon ana nga estorya,mura'g hotcake.Para ra sa walay lingaw jod.

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2007, 12:20:18 PM »
Yeah, because especially in the
Philippines they probably don't speak English and no one could read the ransom note or anything," Kimmel said.

Nakasabot ko sa iyang bo-ot ipa-ibot ana nga linya....Sensitive ra pod kaau...of course we don't speak English in Pinas...kay bisdak man.....Dli tanan makasabot og maka sulti og English....

OA na bitaw pod noh....kung sa magsilingan pa na....tsismis ray bantayan...sayop ray bantayan....

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2007, 12:46:20 PM »
I think I shared this story already in another thread but I will just repeat it her.  There was one morning when 3 middle-aged people came knocking my door.  When I opened the door, I said Hello?  And they looked at me and said, Do you speak English?  I found it so funny!  I said, Ummm, I am not sure.  Do you? hahahha They apologized.



VEry funny Grazz...


OA na bitaw pod noh....kung sa magsilingan pa na....tsismis ray bantayan...sayop ray bantayan....


Bitaw gamay ra kaayo na... maila na hinuon nga wa tay lain gibuhat, sigi ra bantay sa gagmay nga butang...

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2007, 06:30:50 PM »
it's not defamation man unlike sa "desperate housewives". besides, the host used the word, "probably" which means, he himself is uncertain.

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2007, 07:10:36 AM »
it's not defamation man unlike sa "desperate housewives". besides, the host used the word, "probably" which means, he himself is uncertain.

You've illuminated the point, Lumine. A word lost in translation or in transmission can make a whole world of difference.

If less than 50% of American high school students can tell where Canada, Russia or the Philippines is, how can you expect them to know what languages are spoken in these places?

Check out these interesting statistics at http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/edu_geo_apt_res-education-geographical-aptitude-results. The Philippines is actually #1 in an on-line geographical aptitude test while the US is only #96.

Besides, I've always found it easy to deal with someone who badmouths my English ability. Like Grazie, just speak to them in your best English. In Japan, when know you are a foreigner, they immediately presume you don't know the language. Following the Japanese culture of fake humility, I apologize for my limited Japanese ability in the finest, politest Japanese I can muster. Then they're speechless.






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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 05:41:40 PM »
You've illuminated the point, Lumine. A word lost in translation or in transmission can make a whole world of difference.

If less than 50% of American high school students can tell where Canada, Russia or the Philippines is, how can you expect them to know what languages are spoken in these places?

Check out these interesting statistics at http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/edu_geo_apt_res-education-geographical-aptitude-results. The Philippines is actually #1 in an on-line geographical aptitude test while the US is only #96.

Besides, I've always found it easy to deal with someone who badmouths my English ability. Like Grazie, just speak to them in your best English. In Japan, when know you are a foreigner, they immediately presume you don't know the language. Following the Japanese culture of fake humility, I apologize for my limited Japanese ability in the finest, politest Japanese I can muster. Then they're speechless.






thanks a lot, mr. ben!

honestly, the link you gave, mr. ben, made me laugh. isn't it the opposite of the lines from "desperate housewives"?

mr. ben, for a japanese like you, your english ability is already the best.

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2007, 06:55:13 PM »
thanks a lot, mr. ben!

honestly, the link you gave, mr. ben, made me laugh. isn't it the opposite of the lines from "desperate housewives"?

mr. ben, for a japanese like you, your english ability is already the best.

Ma'am Lumine, Benelynne-san is Filipino.  More specifically, a Boholano. :)

Anyway, Kimmel needs to be introduced to Inday. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2007, 11:02:55 PM »
Ma'am Lumine, Benelynne-san is Filipino.  More specifically, a Boholano. :)

Anyway, Kimmel needs to be introduced to Inday. ;D

aw,hehe! toinks! thanks, pj!

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2007, 05:10:08 AM »
XU product na si Mr. Bene, Men, and he is (or used to be?)a columnist of Philippines Today.  Basin nagka tagbo ta ani sa una sa Cagayan de Oro heheheh.

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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2007, 08:35:26 AM »
thanks a lot, mr. ben!

honestly, the link you gave, mr. ben, made me laugh. isn't it the opposite of the lines from "desperate housewives"?

mr. ben, for a japanese like you, your english ability is already the best.

Hi Lumine,

I have always been mistaken for a Japanese. When I went to Bohol with my tan-skinned wife, two equally sun-browned kids in tow, a few years ago, the Cebuana ladies beside her whispered "Your Japanese husband speaks Tagalog perfectly."

You can just imagine how astonished they were when I responded in Binisaya, "Mura diay kog Hapon ug nawong? Bol-anon intawon ko."

Honestly, I consider it a more heart-warming compliment to elicit the first impression of that of a Filipino who speaks Japanese well  than a Japanese who speaks English or Tagalog perfectly.

By the way, CDO is my second home after Bohol. I actually spent more years there than in Bohol. I hope to see you there one of these days.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2007, 08:46:35 AM »
By the way, na OT naman diay ko.

Anyway, going back to the thought of this thread, I would just like to say that Filipinos are born with a talent for languages.

Kani ganing mga so-called "native English speakers", usahay dili magkasinabot. When I was studying Japanese at the Tokyo University School of Foreign Languages for one year, I was the interpreter between a British and an American classmate. Unya naa pay niabot nga Australian student nga nakurat mi kay nisulti, "I am going to the hospital to die" (and pasabot man diay "I am going to the hospital today").

Ato-ato ra, pero confident ko nga at any time of the day, I can beat Americans in a grammar and spelling test. I am sure most of us at TB can!



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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2007, 08:53:33 AM »

Ato-ato ra, pero confident ko nga at any time of the day, I can beat Americans in a grammar and spelling test. I am sure most of us at TB can!


Lumine,

No offense meant to your American hubby. I am sure your choice of partner is as impeccable as your English... although we all have human lapses despite our best intentions...

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2007, 11:32:40 AM »
Hello Mr. Bene,

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts to us.  I could say, and I am almost certain I share my views to most that you are one of the icons of knowledge of TB.  I read your posts as I read my favorite authors' books.

Lumine and I are sisters.  Cagayan de Oro has a special place to us, our second home as we spent some good years there - Lumine as a student and I as an employee in one local-based corporation.  Needless to say, Bohol is our first home.  We grew up there and we will always be a true and proud Boholanos.  Someday I will be able to go back in Bohol and retrace memories.

By the way, Lumine's husband Herman is not an American.  He is a Belgian who fell in love with the Philippines the first time he got there.  Of course, it must have something to do with his profound love to my dear sister, Lumine. :D  Herman is a very wonderful man!  He may not be so fluent in conversational English but he well managed to communicate is kind heartedness and his generosity and his love to us. 


 

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2007, 06:26:20 PM »
Hi Lumine,

I have always been mistaken for a Japanese. When I went to Bohol with my tan-skinned wife, two equally sun-browned kids in tow, a few years ago, the Cebuana ladies beside her whispered "Your Japanese husband speaks Tagalog perfectly."

You can just imagine how astonished they were when I responded in Binisaya, "Mura diay kog Hapon ug nawong? Bol-anon intawon ko."

Honestly, I consider it a more heart-warming compliment to elicit the first impression of that of a Filipino who speaks Japanese well  than a Japanese who speaks English or Tagalog perfectly.

By the way, CDO is my second home after Bohol. I actually spent more years there than in Bohol. I hope to see you there one of these days.

btaw, mr. ben jud! you look like a japanese.
Lumine,

No offense meant to your American hubby. I am sure your choice of partner is as impeccable as your English... although we all have human lapses despite our best intentions...

my husband is a belgian poet. modesty aside, mas maau pa ko nya mo-english,hehehe!

mr. bene, i also used to study at XU.


By the way, na OT naman diay ko.

Anyway, going back to the thought of this thread, I would just like to say that Filipinos are born with a talent for languages.

Kani ganing mga so-called "native English speakers", usahay dili magkasinabot. When I was studying Japanese at the Tokyo University School of Foreign Languages for one year, I was the interpreter between a British and an American classmate. Unya naa pay niabot nga Australian student nga nakurat mi kay nisulti, "I am going to the hospital to die" (and pasabot man diay "I am going to the hospital today").

Ato-ato ra, pero confident ko nga at any time of the day, I can beat Americans in a grammar and spelling test. I am sure most of us at TB can!



like you,mr. bene, im also cocksure i can beat native english speakers in a grammar and spelling contest,hehe!

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2007, 06:29:52 PM »
Hello Mr. Bene,

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts to us.  I could say, and I am almost certain I share my views to most that you are one of the icons of knowledge of TB.  I read your posts as I read my favorite authors' books.

Lumine and I are sisters.  Cagayan de Oro has a special place to us, our second home as we spent some good years there - Lumine as a student and I as an employee in one local-based corporation.  Needless to say, Bohol is our first home.  We grew up there and we will always be a true and proud Boholanos.  Someday I will be able to go back in Bohol and retrace memories.

By the way, Lumine's husband Herman is not an American.  He is a Belgian who fell in love with the Philippines the first time he got there.  Of course, it must have something to do with his profound love to my dear sister, Lumine. :D  Herman is a very wonderful man!  He may not be so fluent in conversational English but he well managed to communicate is kind heartedness and his generosity and his love to us. 

 

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2007, 03:37:47 AM »


yes we dont have to be OA, for one thing, we Pinoys are better than most Americans and British who are native English speakers and writers in terms of grammar and composition...met some of them in the Middle East who are only paid for their colors and for the contents of their brains...for it's a culture for Arabs to have high regards for a white man "in the street"  than an intelligent Asian....for many instances... we gain respect from them here in the ME.

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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2007, 03:51:34 AM »

yes we dont have to be OA, for one thing, we Pinoys are better than most Americans and British who are native English speakers and writers in terms of grammar and composition...met some of them in the Middle East who are only paid for their colors and for the contents of their brains...for it's a culture for Arabs to have high regards for a white man "in the street"  than an intelligent Asian....for many instances... we gain respect from them here in the ME.


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Absolutely right Mr. Junayag.  Sad to say, this a sort of race classifications and I think this is not only practised in the Middle East.

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2007, 03:56:17 AM »


Daghang mas magaling na Pinoy kaysa sa Kano or Bitoy diri... mao nga preferred gyod tang Pinoy especially kong ang company officers are Americans and Bristish for they could communicate effectively and work productively through us Pinoys... kon but-on , ang mga Pinoys are the ones who add value to the inputs made by these Americans and British nationals...

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2007, 04:15:18 AM »
I believe you Sir......I hope you are one of those respected leaders there, am sure you have the ability to compete them. (Kano and Bitoy)


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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2007, 05:42:53 AM »

yes we dont have to be OA, for one thing, we Pinoys are better than most Americans and British who are native English speakers and writers in terms of grammar and composition...met some of them in the Middle East who are only paid for their colors and for the contents of their brains...for it's a culture for Arabs to have high regards for a white man "in the street"  than an intelligent Asian....for many instances... we gain respect from them here in the ME.

I heard about this, Mr. Ayag. My dad, Rico Lucino, who worked in Saudi Arabia for over 10 years as a  Civil Engineer in construction sites, said that Arab contractors would hire Indians, Pakistanis and other Arabs as well as Filipinos, Thai, etc. And according to him, they would pay the Indians and Pakistanis more than the Filipinos for the same work done, despite the fact that Filipino workers worked more hours and without complain as compared to the others. My dad was a site supervisor, and would tell me that when he was in Saudi, he grew a beard because apparently his Arabian bosses preferred that he did, and tried to persuade him to covert to Islam. Thankfully, my dad, who is very Catholic, just smilled and went back to work. Stern subtlety, jud, na ang Pilipino. And hearing things about what my dad experience through and what my uncles and his friends went through in Saudi/ME is very humbling. Very humbling.

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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2007, 08:57:46 AM »
Sadly, it is human nature to make stereotypes of people based on what has been passed on to us in history books, what we read in the papers as well as on frequency of interaction with people of the same occupational category.

The white man, anywhere in the world, (would you believe even in highly civilized Japan) has always been looked upon as a demigod.

In Japan, the image of Filipinas as entertainers still sticks two years after Japan effectively banned them with the enforcement of the Action Plan on Anti-Human Trafficking through a revised Immigration Law passed in March 2005.

Can you blame the Japanese for thinking that all Filipinos could ever do is sing, dance and occasionally shed a layer of clothing onstage, when hard-working Japanese men were regaled to such entertainment by their companies for more than 20 years since mid-80's? And the Philippine government more than willingly deployed every year about 100,000 of our best-looking women.

Now some of those Filipinas have the good fortune of marrying with Japanese and settling to happy family life. A few of them who have college diplomas, and whose visas have been upgraded to "spouse" or "permanent resident", have tried applying as English teachers.

The Japanese initially rebuffed Filipinas, preferring white native English speakers. Interestingly, East Europeans and Argentinians qualified as English teachers even without interview, just going by the color of their skin.

In the last two years, they have started to accept Filipinos when they found out that we can really teach English better. The Japanese don't sit well with the very combative Americans and British, who would fight for the finest print of their contract to claim rights and privileges. The Filipinos, on the other hand, show patience and concentrate on their performance.

There's still a long way to go for the Filipino "entertainer" image here to be replaced by the "professional" image. In the end, changing our image to conform with the real Filipino really lies in our collective effort.



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Is it common for Filipinas working in Japan to marry Japanese men? Or Filipino men marrying Japanese women? We can only hope that the Japanese view on Filipinos rises to maturity and view us as professionals and educated elites, not as entertainment workers. Thanks for the information.

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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2007, 09:44:58 AM »
Ben,

Is it common for Filipinas working in Japan to marry Japanese men? Or Filipino men marrying Japanese women? We can only hope that the Japanese view on Filipinos rises to maturity and view us as professionals and educated elites, not as entertainment workers. Thanks for the information.

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Hi Lorenzo,

Of the 7000 Filipinos who marry Japanese nationals every year, only about 100 are males or 1.4%.

More than 98% are Filipino women marrying Japanese men. This is expected since the Filipino women work or used to work in places where they interacted with Japanese men frequently.

There is also social explanation for this.  It is more socially acceptable for men to marry down  (to marry with a woman of lower social status) than for a woman to marry down. Japanese women are expected to marry up  because they are not expected to work but take care of the family, and therefore their men have to have the economic capacity to support them. Needless to say, for the Japanese, marrying with a Filipino (male or female) is considered marrying down.




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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2007, 09:57:13 AM »
Hey Ben,

Thanks for that. Very interesting. Pero is it socially acceptable for Japanese to marry Filipinos? Also it brings me to interest because I have a friend here in college, who is from Pangasinan, who currently dates a Japanese girl as well, and he prefers Japanese girls over Filipinas etc. When you mentioned your earlier statement about inter-marriage, just naturally claimed my interest.

For Filipina women who marry Japanese, do they ever go back to the Philippines and bring their husbands with them? What is the usual response? Do Japanese husbands/wives of Filipinos learn Tagalog/Bisaya or is the Filipino/Filipina expected to completely assimilate into Japanese spouse's culture?

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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2007, 10:42:42 AM »
Hey Ben,

Thanks for that. Very interesting. Pero is it socially acceptable for Japanese to marry Filipinos? Also it brings me to interest because I have a friend here in college, who is from Pangasinan, who currently dates a Japanese girl as well, and he prefers Japanese girls over Filipinas etc. When you mentioned your earlier statement about inter-marriage, just naturally claimed my interest.

For Filipina women who marry Japanese, do they ever go back to the Philippines and bring their husbands with them? What is the usual response? Do Japanese husbands/wives of Filipinos learn Tagalog/Bisaya or is the Filipino/Filipina expected to completely assimilate into Japanese spouse's culture?

Thanks, Mr. Ben.

The Japanese society has opened up remarkably to so-called kokusai kekkon or international marriages in the last few years. Mixed marriages are no longer a novelty. I believe your friend will have no problem at all. Japanese women are not considered the best wives in the world for no reason at all. And given that your friend is highly educated, and is schooling in the US at that, I don't think his fiancee's family will consider it marrying down.

Are they at the stage of considering marriage? I believe that your friend has to talk it out with his girlfriend, since Japanese families have varying degrees of attachment to tradition. I guess OrchidsNRoses could shed more light on this. Naa pud na sila's custom nga murag pamanhikan. And some families insist on two ceremonies--the traditional Japanese ceremony and Western-style ceremony. Weddings are lucrative business here.

Most women bring their husbands for a vacation to introduce to their families in the Philippines.

Filipinas who live with their in-laws, like OrchidsNRoses, are expected to assimilate themselves in the Japanese language and culture.

But Japanese-Filipino couples who live independently from their families have more freedom to decide on what language and culture to adopt. Most children of such families that I know of predominantly take their father's language and culture.



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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2007, 10:51:28 AM »
Let me share with you this talk I had with the President of Selti, the leading manpower agency which hired about 50 Filipino Assistant English Teachers in Tokyo last year. This is taken from http://www.philippinestoday.net/index.php?module=article&view=4.

Filipino Assistant English Teachers (AET’s) Take the Helm in Japan's Classrooms
by Benigno Tutor, Jr.

Teaching English in Japan used to be a tightly guarded domain of the so-called white, blond-haired native speakers. But when public schools opened in April of this year, about fifty (50) Filipinos were hired all over Japan as Assistant English Teachers (AET) in elementary and junior high schools.

Filipinos pride themselves on their American-style education which gives most college graduates a claim to native-level English proficiency, especially in the period before the bilingual policy was implemented. This recognition of their English ability, albeit belated, is therefore greeted with optimism.

What gave the impetus to this development were the liberalization of the Labor Dispatch Law in 1999, which widened the scope of manpower deployment to non-traditional sectors including teachers, and the kokusaika or internationalization program of the Japanese government which was translated into an education policy of an early start in English lessons in public schools.

Giving us an insider’s view of this propitious development is Yasushi Nakane, president of Selti, the leading manpower agency which hired most of the Filipino AET’s. What follows is the transcript of the free-wheeling interview, conducted in Japanese, last April 22, 2006 in Moriya City, Ibaraki Pref.




BDTJ: What do you think about Filipino AET’s?
Kawane: We would like more Filipinos to work as AET’s in Japanese public schools. Since English is one of the two official languages in the Philippines, Filipinos speak the language well. Many of the Filipino AET’s we have hired so far are earnest in their job, work hard and teach well. In fact, in our company, we have many foreign AET’s but Filipinos comprise the largest number, about 40 percent. Since we are a group of companies, the percentage to the total is just about 3 percent, but we would like to increase this. There are many excellent Filipinos AET’s.

BDTJ: By whose standard do you give this evaluation—your company’s or the Japanese public schools’?
Kawane: This evaluation was given by our clients. For example, in Ibaraki Pref., many members of the boards of education in the area have given us positive feedback about the Filipino AET’s. According to them, even compared with the professional native speakers, many Filipinos are as good, if not better.

BDTJ: Until recently, the image associated with the word “English teacher” has always been a Caucasian—American or British. It comes as a surprise then that Japan is finally accepting Filipinos as English teachers. How did this happen?
Kawane: Filipinos as persons are wonderful. This is a rather abstract statement, but for one to be a good Assistant Language Teacher (ALT) in charge of children, one has to be cheerful, lively and cooperative with the Japanese homeroom teacher. In other words, an ALT has to have the heart of service for children as well as be cooperative with his or her Japanese counterpart. My personal impression is that Filipinos as a people have a sunny disposition, and perhaps because of their Christian background, are very devoted to their work. They are also well thought of by the Japanese teachers for their teamwork. Moreover, their English is clear, which is not to say that they do not have a distinct accent. English education in Japan is oriented towards American English, which is easier for the Japanese to listen to. As much as possible, we would like our teachers to speak closest to American English. Unless spoken very heavily, the Filipino accent is by and large acceptable.

BDTJ: Everything you have said about Filipinos has been favorable so far. Any suggestions on how they can improve themselves?
Kawane: If Filipinos want to keep this job or if more want to have this job, they should strive to speak standard American English. I think it will not take them much effort since the Filipinos studied English under the American-style educational system. Filipinos have all the advantages since they receive their education mostly in English.

BDTJ: Filipino AET’s are very eager to improve themselves. They are even discussing among themselves the plans for having workshops aside from those administered by their employers like you.
Kawane: I think the demand for English teachers is going to rise even more. There are plans afoot in the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports and Science and Technology (Monbukagakusho) to make English a mandatory subject for higher grade elementary school children as early as 2010. Presently, English is taught in elementary schools under the “International Understanding” class. There is no test, and even basic grammar is not taught. The aim is simply to familiarize and acquaint children to the language. It is only when children enter junior high that English is taught as a subject.

BDTJ: It is almost inconceivable for us Filipinos that a private company has built itself into such a huge industry by selling English as its main product. Why is English ability so valuable in this society?
Kawane: The world economy is still centered on the US. This may be a bit exaggerated, but it is a fact that the language of global business is English. Japan is a small archipelago, which cannot sustain itself economically without doing business with the outside world.

BDTJ: It is ironic that so far, Japan has attained remarkable economic growth without mastery of the English language. Therefore, one cannot claim that English is so important to achieve economic growth. Why the sudden urgency to study English?
Kawane: Global competition has never been this fierce. In a world structured into East-West hemispheres, Japan simply had to produce nice industrial products and was assured of a market under the wings of American alliance. But with the obsolescence of communism and the crumbling of the East-West divide with the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the world has become one global market, a level playing field for every one. Even the US has become a competitor, not to mention the emerging economies like China and South Korea. Japan has to go out into the world even more in order to sell its products. More than ever, it needs English to be able to do this. Japan cannot sit back on its English ability, what with a ranking of 100 in TOEFL score worldwide. Even in Asia, the Japanese trail miserably behind.


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Re: US talk Show Host says Filipinos Can't Speak English
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2007, 12:41:31 PM »
The Japanese society has opened up remarkably to so-called kokusai kekkon or international marriages in the last few years. Mixed marriages are no longer a novelty. I believe your friend will have no problem at all. Japanese women are not considered the best wives in the world for no reason at all. And given that your friend is highly educated, and is schooling in the US at that, I don't think his fiancee's family will consider it marrying down.

Are they at the stage of considering marriage? I believe that your friend has to talk it out with his girlfriend, since Japanese families have varying degrees of attachment to tradition. I guess OrchidsNRoses could shed more light on this. Naa pud na sila's custom nga murag pamanhikan. And some families insist on two ceremonies--the traditional Japanese ceremony and Western-style ceremony. Weddings are lucrative business here.

Most women bring their husbands for a vacation to introduce to their families in the Philippines.

Filipinas who live with their in-laws, like OrchidsNRoses, are expected to assimilate themselves in the Japanese language and culture.

But Japanese-Filipino couples who live independently from their families have more freedom to decide on what language and culture to adopt. Most children of such families that I know of predominantly take their father's language and culture.



I had a friend who got married to a japanese girl.Since husband's word is a rule in the house,my friend is free to decide,think what he want for his family.It's easy to marry a japanese woman than the man since married woman will go out from thier own premises,the time she get married her parents accepted that they lost thier daughter.That's why during marriage rights the mother of the bride wear black kimonos or dress as a sign that she lost her daughter.
Marriage in japan;is just a sort of signing the paper and it's over.Our neighbor here is a busy woman,I was surprised to meet her at a restaurant with a guy she introduced as her husband.They get married in some minutes lang.They they eat together after having lunch they will go back to thier own work.Good for them,..but if the girls parents were like my husbands..there should be a pamanhikan like ours to happened.Tradition still exists in some households.
So depende lang sa kasabutan if what arrangement they want..

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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2007, 02:35:24 PM »
haw haw haw de carabao...ang mga ingles nating mga pilipino'y lumala.



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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2007, 01:11:10 AM »


the quality of education nowadays deteriorates unlike in the past where even elementary graduates could effectively teach with proficiency... in the present times, bisan graduate na sa college, maglisod pa gyod og iningles... haw haw de carabao kuno....

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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2007, 01:34:03 AM »
my husbands constant question Jun is WHAT'S NEXT?

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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2007, 01:36:51 AM »


bitaw tanan gyod nag deteriorate...nauna ang moral decency....so naa pa bay paglaum ang mga tawo nga mag bag-o?

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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2007, 09:31:47 AM »
Of course, Jun, naa pay paglaum na mag bag o ang mga tao ug masugod kita sa atong kaugalingon ug sa atong nataran.  Hangtud naay kinabuhi, naa kitay paglaum.  That's true, gaka pino na ang moral fibers natong mga katawhan.  Kumbaga, we kind of think man gud ba na since we can not beat the corrupt system, we might as well join them!  Basta ako, I will always be hopeful na people will change for the better - if not for our generation to enjoy but for the generations to come.

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2007, 04:49:41 PM »
Of course, Jun, naa pay paglaum na mag bag o ang mga tao ug masugod kita sa atong kaugalingon ug sa atong nataran.  Hangtud naay kinabuhi, naa kitay paglaum.  That's true, gaka pino na ang moral fibers natong mga katawhan.  Kumbaga, we kind of think man gud ba na since we can not beat the corrupt system, we might as well join them!  Basta ako, I will always be hopeful na people will change for the better - if not for our generation to enjoy but for the generations to come.

Hi grazie,

Am one with you in rooting for hope. It's always nice to clinch every exchange with a note of optimism.

I guess the younger generation of Filipinos are facing a horizon of opportunities different from that of our times. I am amazed by how youngters seem to simply fiddle with computers. I now have to ask my daughter about new softwares, functions or keyboard shortcuts. I believe our educational system should adapt to these changing times and harness their abilities to pursue excellence in these fields.

But our schools should really address the concern about deterioration of English. After all, English is still the global language. It's a pity our best teachers are forced by economic imperatives to seek opportunities abroad and end up teaching children of other countries.




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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2007, 08:08:57 PM »
Benelynne-san, as always, your posts are both very instructive and enlightening.  I hope our lawmakers and government officials are able to read them since your insights into the situation and status of Filipinos in Japan will certainly guide them in their manner of drafting laws that will secure empowerment for all Filipinos in Japan, and where-ever else in the world.  The write-up on how the children of some Filipino mothers fare academically in the schools there was troubling.  Especially the scenario of these children growing up to what is virtually second-class citizenship.  It is indeed time that the image of Filipinos as professionals and not just as entertainers be emphasized there.  Just because we also sing and dance doesn't mean that we don't think.
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2007, 09:59:12 PM »
Benelynne-san, as always, your posts are both very instructive and enlightening.  I hope our lawmakers and government officials are able to read them since your insights into the situation and status of Filipinos in Japan will certainly guide them in their manner of drafting laws that will secure empowerment for all Filipinos in Japan, and where-ever else in the world.  The write-up on how the children of some Filipino mothers fare academically in the schools there was troubling.  Especially the scenario of these children growing up to what is virtually second-class citizenship.  It is indeed time that the image of Filipinos as professionals and not just as entertainers be emphasized there.  Just because we also sing and dance doesn't mean that we don't think.
Domo arigato gozaimasu, Benelynne-sensei.

Thanks. Salamat pod kaayo for confirming my citizenship to Lumine.

Yes, I do hope our government sees beyond foreign currency earnings when it formulates policies.

These days, Filipinos always figure in any mishap in the world--when a bomb explodes in Madrid, or an airline crashes in Nagoya, or Israel exchanges missiles with Lebanon... And we're only able to read about high-profile incidents.

You never get to hear about overstaying Filipinos who dig fox holes under their tatami or straw-mat floor--without the knowledge of their landlord--to hide in when the Immigration knocks. You never hear about the Filipino stroke victim being turned back by the public hospital because he doesn't have health insurance and subseqently dies in the cold. You never hear about the Filipino pastor's wife bleeding to death of simple childbirth in an ambulance because five hospitals she was brought to declared they were full. You never hear about Filipina housewives being belittled by their in-laws in a language they are lucky enough not to fully understand. You never hear about children, casually called half, jumping out of school windows because their Filipina mother couldn't help them with their assignments.

Can't believe all we can do is make noise about some Jimmy Kimmel who says we can't speak English!!!


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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2007, 01:27:47 AM »
It is not shameful to proclaim that we Filipinos can not speak English perfectly. It is the truth. However, speech is only a skill like singing or dancing, and not necessarily a manifestation of intelligence. Yet, I am certain that we Filipinos are among the highly intelligent race in this planet.

Simply, we are Filipinos with our hard tongues. We speak our own language, we have our own identity. We may not be perfect in terms of communication skills, but in comprehension, we are.

Sadly, the Americans, the people we Filipinos regard to as icons of intellegence and perfect society is dumbing down. Ref: http://www.digitaldivide.net/news/view.php?HeadlineID=241

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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2007, 03:06:03 AM »
6 years ago I was not able to speak or understand the vernacular of the Visayan language. these day i still have some what difficulty with it.

You want to know why I do not use the Visayans so much is that many here actually do speak English.

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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2007, 09:57:31 AM »
6 years ago I was not able to speak or understand the vernacular of the Visayan language. these day i still have some what difficulty with it.

You want to know why I do not use the Visayans so much is that many here actually do speak English.

You look very much at home in your photo, Precious. I am glad you're not having trouble with our local English accent. I am sure that in time, you'll also learn the Boholano vernacular... Learning another people's language will deepen your understanding of their mind.

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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2007, 03:11:24 PM »
It is not shameful to proclaim that we Filipinos can not speak English perfectly. It is the truth. However, speech is only a skill like singing or dancing, and not necessarily a manifestation of intelligence. Yet, I am certain that we Filipinos are among the highly intelligent race in this planet.

Simply, we are Filipinos with our hard tongues. We speak our own language, we have our own identity. We may not be perfect in terms of communication skills, but in comprehension, we are.

Sadly, the Americans, the people we Filipinos regard to as icons of intellegence and perfect society is dumbing down. Ref: http://www.digitaldivide.net/news/view.php?HeadlineID=241

I am proud of being Filipino, a royal race and not a decendant of some violent wild west.

I love how you coined that, a royal race, Mr. Ferniz.

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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2007, 07:46:57 PM »
You are among the great ones Lorenzo. Our race belong to a great ancient kingdom, the Sri Vijayan who ruled southeast asia from Thailand to New Zealand for thousands of years.

We are the so called "Masters of the Sea". The same people who ventured to Polynesia and even reached the remotest island of the vast Pacific "Christmas Island" (A territory of Chile, South America), home of the Rapanoids. No wonder the Polynesians and Rapanoids have number names similar to us like usa, duha, tulo, upat up to 10.

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Re: US talk Show Host says Filipinos Can't Speak English
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2007, 07:56:31 PM »
You are among the great ones Lorenzo. Our race belong to a great ancient kingdom, the Sri Vijayan who ruled southeast asia from Thailand to New Zealand for thousands of years.

We are the so called "Masters of the Sea". The same people who ventured to Polynesia and even reached the remotest island of the vast Pacific "Christmas Island" (A territory of Chile, South America), home of the Rapanoids. No wonder the Polynesians and Rapanoids have number names similar to us like usa, duha, tulo, upat up to 10.

We are the brave, fearless of the uncertain.

Sorry for the wrong use of words, it is Easter Island, not Christmas Island. I am confused between those two holidays. Sorry.

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Reply: US talk Show Host says Filipinos Can't Speak English
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2008, 01:07:32 AM »
Dili nalang nato tagdon ning magbiay-biay nato kay magsakit ra atong dughan.

Kita bitawng mga Bol-anon, sige man biaybiayon sa mga taga laing probinsya nga ija-ija-aho-aho, pakisabaw-pakibahog, lamesa ray patag sa bohol, etc. etc. etc.

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