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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2008, 09:13:49 AM »
Benne,
   Your point is well taken, and it is the heart that bridges true happiness and yes it doesn't have to be rational.
    But take a different look, for a time, if you are born Japanese, and your heart is in Japan, you would not want any other way.. but imagine if i say i can reprogram your heart to see the reality of lives.
I mean for someone like a Korean to see both worlds, do you really think he would choose PI over US. Definitely not, that is an unbias outlook..
   and that's what happen to me, I was 19 when i left,  and yes no other way but the filipino way.. I struggled for 15 years until i realize, ....yes i don't have to fight the US ways, i could learn to love their ways and tradition as well. Not to say, i betrayed PI the country I always loved.
   And guess what, I see the real green in US fence, the opportunity, the realities and fulfillment of our dreams, the rewards of hard work, the security of a fair country and Thank God... the peacefulness that lives within, knowing lawlessness is not prevalent.
     To tell you the truth, I do not emphatize with the homeless, or the unemployed  in the US, we have every every opportunity not to be one in this country.....they choose to... be one..
      True wealth is within, have you heard? if you are born into a poor unknown filipino family, you might as well throw your towels and give up, you have a very very little chance of making it. Let's face it....Your true wealth will never flourish in a dry dressert, where rain never comes...
         My forever love
     Bohol PI

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2008, 10:19:11 AM »
Oliver, i was really thinking the same way today when i was alone, honest. For me I am very much adapted the American life (not at my few years). One different thing here in the US is that you could be a very Filipino in manner or whatever, yet no one cares and still you are taken care of. Daghan japun kaajo mga Pinoy ug batasan diri.

Thats why i say that our people  could have a better life if we were one of the State  but its too bad the oppurtunity only knocked once in our door  and no ones knosking anymore...mao tingali na nga nag sour graping nalang ang uban, kay the truth wa naman tay mahimo but to hang on and try to do something to have a bit of change...

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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2008, 10:44:28 AM »
no it's not sour gripping mis dabinz, its a love for country and to cherish the won freedom from the blood of our heroes. im proud of it and would never surrender it to the americans.

a relative of my great great grandfather's guerilla group who fought for independence in jagna was massacred by the americans during the pilipino american war. they were sold to the americans by a fellow jagnaanon. what a shame. the massacre was immortalized by a brass marker from phil. historical society in bgy. lonoy so that future generations will not forget on their heroic deeds.
 
i firmly believe God will not abandon our country and we could have a better life in the islands soon. a country thru time and experience will grow for the better it's the trend and history or expereinced from other countries substantiate my belief.

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2008, 11:03:08 AM »
buwads,
   on the other hand, you are correct, we can make the best out of nothing, as long as your whole heart is on it.. I admire the true filipino spirit you possess.. the kind that Rizal had when put the test..
     Im sorry to hear about your forefathers, but a few is NOT a reason to generalize the whole!! Let's bring the US base back!! just kidding,,,

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2008, 11:23:37 AM »
 they were sold to the americans by a fellow jagnaanon. what a shame. the massacre was immortalized by a brass...


Taym pa what's wrong with this statement? Buttom line-who really killed your forefather? is it the Amerikans or your fellow Jagnaon?

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2008, 12:59:32 PM »
it's clear as the crystal waters in balicasag island. the americans killed them. the information of where the guerillas came from a jagnaanon.

mis dabinz, sa binisaja pa - gui luiban.

oliver it's not the few my friend its the pride, the freedom!!!

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2008, 11:46:05 PM »
a new bill is pending in congress that will allow americans and other foreigners to own corporations, lands and other properties in the philippines without much hassle unlike before. if that will be made into law, that could lead to the invasion of foriegn investors here and perhaps will also lead to new way of life for filipinos. hopefully, they will make rules still favorable to the filipino people.

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2008, 02:07:55 AM »
a new bill is pending in congress that will allow americans and other foreigners to own corporations, lands and other properties in the philippines without much hassle unlike before. if that will be made into law, that could lead to the invasion of foriegn investors here and perhaps will also lead to new way of life for filipinos. hopefully, they will make rules still favorable to the filipino people.




This is what i want to read--- a POSITIVE outlook!

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2008, 11:11:27 AM »
no it's not sour gripping mis dabinz, its a love for country and to cherish the won freedom from the blood of our heroes. im proud of it and would never surrender it to the americans.

a relative of my great great grandfather's guerilla group who fought for independence in jagna was massacred by the americans during the pilipino american war. they were sold to the americans by a fellow jagnaanon. what a shame. the massacre was immortalized by a brass marker from phil. historical society in bgy. lonoy so that future generations will not forget on their heroic deeds.
 
i firmly believe God will not abandon our country and we could have a better life in the islands soon. a country thru time and experience will grow for the better it's the trend and history or expereinced from other countries substantiate my belief.

mabuhay ang pilipinas!


Buwad,

I will submit to the fact that you have a very beautiful nationalistic feeling. It is ideologically similar to the Filipinoismo of the past. I admire that raw patriotism. And I mean it.

Ang view lang nako, Buwad, is that so much more could have been given to my fellow Filipino brothers and sisters. I want my Filipino brothers and sisters to have the benefits of the life that I am living as a proud Filipino-American.

Dili lang for me or for the 2.5 million Fil-Ams here. But for All Filipinos!

It always pains me, my friend, to hear and read stories of Filipinos starving and dying. I just read an article posted here that over 10,000 Filipinos a year die of preventable conditions (malnutrition, infection etc). 10,000 deaths!

Sakit ahong CORAZON to hear and read stories like this because things like that is so easily prevented here in the United States. Sa akong view lang, my friend, is that why should my fellow Filipino countrymen be subjected to a difficult life when I and other Americans have a comfortable life. Dili pood fair.

Oliver's points are very credible and I totally sympathize for him.

The Philippines could have enjoyed all the fruits of the wealth of America, yet not be directly an American-administered state.

The Philippines could have, had it wished, been an American Protectorate.

By meaning of this, the Philippines would have retained its provinces, self autonomy, a military, a national government, yet would at the same time, would be given the rights of Americans (as in citizenship for all Filipinos) as well as the benifits of unbridled American Investments in the Philippines.


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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2008, 12:25:48 PM »
you have your point Lor. sa ako kasi, mas tam-is ang kada-ugan kong gikan kini sa kasakit o kapait! we have to endure and im sure we shall overcome the poor situation in our country.

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2008, 03:17:35 PM »
Can't entrust the Philippines to Gloria, so hand it over to George? Wait a minute.

With the imminent breakdown of the US financial system, following the fall of Lehman Brothers, and the teetering of such revered financial institutions as Merrill Lynch and AIG, I believe the heydey of US hegemony is over. It is mired in Iraq and Afghanistan--which is a culmination of a history of overarching geopolitical expansion and alliance-making that it can no longer sustain.

Granted, the Philippine government is corrupt and inept. But is a government that misallocates resources to finance foreign wars at the expense of its basic infrastructure (remember what they said about the Minneapolis Bridge collapse), or is so busy policing the Middle East that it is unable to cope with the surge in its own domestic crime and random violence, or is so preoccupied with pitching capitalism to Russia and China that it is caught off guard by the free-enterprise subprime debacle at home, really a better alternative? Come on.

Dong Lorenzo, I, too, mourn for the 10,000 children and adults dying from preventable diseases and hunger in the Philippines. To save these poor souls quickly, I think the Japanese government, with the highest life expectancy in the world and state-of-art medicine would do a much better job. After all, devoid of military power, it certainly seems more acceptable than the gung-ho US and geographically closer to home, to boot.

But I simply wonder how I could trust even the Japanese government to save 10,000 from poverty when it is so helpless in the face of a spiking suicide rate that exceeded 33,000 last year and is still rising...

Traveling more frequently now between here and Bohol, I simply can't help but be amazed that if I put a tag price to my joy and well-being, it costs infinitely more in yen than in peso.

Where I am, life is comfortable, too. But I never think of trading the freedom, sunshine and simple life back home with the pall of everyday life here where every yen of comfort is almost worth one's sanity.

This may not be the most rational argument for me to say "No, thanks" for making the Philippines an adjunct of some first-world country. But I can't quantify my joy when I hear Celine extol a whizz kid from the Philippines named Charice, or small-town Manny Pacquiao demolishing international boxing ring icons, or a Filipina CEO revitalizing Starbucks in Japan when the company is retreating everywhere else...

Leave the Philippines to the Filipinos, please. (Yeah, Belle, as if the US is willing to take us, anyway.) Cheers!





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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2008, 09:08:28 PM »
Aguy Bene san, Amerika is Broke! abi nimo YOU are the very first person that came to my mind kay ingon raba ka nga ug maka ubo mi diri sip-onon sad dayun mo diha!!! hahahha

Bene dear murag napanaminan na jud nako ang akong giingon sa una nga TAGUAN ANG KWARTA SA ILAWOM SA BANIG!!! sus sigi nako na madunggan diri sa mga commentators pero ang ila ilawom sa mattress kay sosy man sila!!!!

Pastilan, ang ubang nation Bene gihilantan na sad!!!

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2008, 09:50:26 AM »
benne,
   Every country has its own hiccups, and that's entirely a separate topic that we are talking about. You are full of knowledge on what's happening.. I say amen to you... but we are focusing the topic to

...which is better.. are filipinos better off =run by corrupt selfish rich filipino leaders- or by George as a whole( with its goods and bads). I say -your patriotism falls wayyy short ... and is partly responsible of all the misery and the death of the 10,000 underpriviledge poor, unheard, unrepresented and patriotic people like you. Lucky me, though I was just like you, never wanting to leave... but I thank God, he gave me parents that does not think like you....  I would have been dead by now... I take that to heart..
   Excuse my directiveness, no offense intended.

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2008, 11:27:07 AM »
oliver. grabe kanaman. hindi naman ganun na kasama ang situation dito sa pinas we are better than mogadisho or yemen or angola or somalia etc. don't dwell much on negative aspect in our country we have beautiful things happened here like new airports, roads investments on tourism and new graduates today are highly employed by call centers that pay good salaries. kaya buhay ang starbucks dahil sa kanila.

tapulan lang ang mga majority sa tawo sigi lag tung-it instead nga magtanum ug saging aron dili ma gutom. ang atong gobyerno corrupt mao nga ug kani ma usob i have high hopes we will make a giant leap of progress in the near future.

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2008, 08:39:37 PM »
oliver. grabe kanaman. hindi naman ganun na kasama ang situation dito sa pinas we are better than mogadisho or yemen or angola or somalia etc. don't dwell much on negative aspect in our country we have beautiful things happened here like new airports, roads investments on tourism and new graduates today are highly employed by call centers that pay good salaries. kaya buhay ang starbucks dahil sa kanila.

tapulan lang ang mga majority sa tawo sigi lag tung-it instead nga magtanum ug saging aron dili ma gutom. ang atong gobyerno corrupt mao nga ug kani ma usob i have high hopes we will make a giant leap of progress in the near future.


See naa ra man diay na? nganong imong gi draw nga picture pwerteng mauta! hahaha Bitaw Buwad Please dont draw that picture again kay maka depress kaayo paminawon oi!

Tinuod na imong ingon nga sigi lang tung-its ang ma tawo instead mananom ug kamatis sa ilang nataran. Tingala jud ko nga sa atoa bisan sa mga baryo, naa japun mamalit ug mga kamatis, sibuyas ug uban pang lagutmon nga ako/kami  diri naa sa Merika way palit2x kay mangutlo ra ko sa akong garden sa likod? Shalan, na unsa na gud ni???

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2008, 08:31:53 AM »
miss dabz,
oliver was painting a bleak situation in the phil. not me, being an optomistic boholano for the philipppines. anyway, good day and may God bless us all. ingatz!
 

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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2008, 12:31:26 PM »
fellows,
    It might not be that bad to you, since we all have access to computers and eat well everyday. I'm sorry to bring you the truth. In reality the poor in the states gets overweight of overeating, while our poor get malnourished and without survey no one knows how many die of starvation and diseases everyday.
    I'm not gonna paint the picture pretty for many,  I've lived in Bohol till I was 20, and no,,, we re not that poor. But even then, as a middle class, it was like comparing both extremes.
   
We'll, there's bliss in ignorance for those who are oblivious, Let those who can hear, hear, but lest not ignore our responsibility to our own people. For we are our brother's keeper..........

I ponder everyday, feeling the pain of those who never had, the hunger of the poor, the opportunity of the hard worker, the pain of the diseases that only the wealthy achieved, the craving of a mother's heart when she sees her helpless children, the hard work of a responsible father that can't never provide enough.....

and yet... we say it's better to die, than being run by americans!!! what a shame, that we are doing nothing.... and choosing to be numb to the pain of others...

Isn't it the mentality, that dooms our land!!
   

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« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2008, 12:32:55 PM »
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Re: propose PI to become the 52nd state of US
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2008, 03:16:31 AM »
i really admired the bravery of the filipinos and we are known to that. but we are always blinded by our ideologies which is also in turn the one bringing us down. we are known to be fighters, we fight on what we believe is right and on what we believe that's good for us. we are rich in history about revolutions, rebellions and other atrocities against foreign invaders. but how many of us think if our heroes had succeed in their quest for freedom? for me, they did not succeed. all of them are failures. do you know why? take for example the following:

datu lapu-lapu - he's known to be first filipino hero who have fought and repulse the spanish 1st attempt to get the island. but his victory was shortlived since the spaniards succeeded in taking over the island and named it filipinas which is now the modern philippines. they ruled the country for 300 years and in fact is one of the greatest influence of the filipino culture.

francisco dagohoy - is a bol-anon who according to history holds the distinction of leading the longest revolt against the spanish regime. from 1744 to 1829 or roughly 85 years. but it not deter and not even made the spaniards blink.

katipunan - is an underground group organized by other filipino hardliners against the spaniards. they have few succcess and more losses. almost all of the members were eventually captured and died.

there were so many revolts that happened in our country up to the american occupation and japanese occupations but it not even change the fate of country. it because of how we really handle ourselves. try to take a look at countries and places that are former colonies. they are now very rich, successful and blooming. take a look at hongkong, singapore among others.

our country will always be like this until the time of our children's children's children because we are corrupt. only a few people who are less corrupt. corruption is really in our blood and we can't change it. we might be able to minimize it but to control it, it's not going to work out. the best thing that we need to do is to teach our children to work for their own because no government will take care of their needs. they need to tell their children to teach it also their children and to their children's future children and so on. the only person who can save us is only us. not them, not the other people.

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