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Rizal’s 'green' house appalls Calambeños
By Maricar Cinco
Inquirer Southern Luzon
First Posted 11:33:00 06/05/2009

Filed Under: history, House building

CALAMBA CITY, LAGUNA, Philippines -- The Rizal Shrine that stood silently over the decades in this city has suddenly caught everyone's attention after it was painted green about three weeks ago.

Not only have irate text messages started going around the town, but emails and calls from other provinces and abroad have expressed "shock and horror" over the shrine's new hue.

"We don't like it," Linda Lazaro, who was for 15 years a member of the Rizal Day committee, said.

"We are not against the painting per se. But it (the house) symbolizes Rizal (and) it is an insult to his memory," she added.

The school teacher, who is in her 70s, claimed to be a descendant of the national hero through the wife of Rizal's brother Paciano.

The shrine that used to be gray was reconstructed in the '50s with the funds coming from 25-centavo contributions of students and their families from several schools.

The National Historical Institute recently repainted the shrine's outside walls in a light shade of green. The walls inside were painted yellow and the ceiling blue.

"Even the well (in front of the house) was painted green," Lazaro said.

In his column in the Philippine Daily Inquirer on Wednesday, Ambeth Ocampo, head of the NHI, wrote that the reason for painting Rizal's house green was to "highlight the meaning of his surname."

The surname Rizal had its roots from the Spanish word "ricial," which meant a green field ready for harvest, he said.

"It does not follow that your house should be painted the way your surname means," said a resident of Calamba, who preferred not to be named so as not invite the ire of Ocampo.

"It's a flimsy reason. It doesn't hold water," Lazaro said.

She said townsfolk have been joking about painting their houses according to the meaning of their surnames.

"If our last name is Guinto, should our house be painted in gold?" Lazaro recalled one sarcastic remark she received.

To placate irate residents, the curator placed a tarpaulin about four days ago, explaining why the house was painted in green.

People, mostly on educational trips, visit the Rizal shrine, especially during the weekends.

"That's all we have here in Calamba and we lost our symbol," Lazaro worried about losing the town's main historical and tourist attraction.

She said a British guest recently came to see the house and "was horrified" with the color.

"It's embarrassing. We are having a hard time explaining to them (guests) why it is green," she said.

It was a different reaction before the house was painted.

"Children would turn silent upon entering the house. There was a certain ambiance and romance, it being an old house," she said.

On Thursday, a guest referred to the Rizal shrine, with its green facade, as a "toy house,"
Lazaro said.

She said teachers, who were on a tour with their students in Calamba, were angry because they could not explain why the color had to be changed.

The office of the curator also received reactions, some containing invectives, about the changes in the house's color.

"We are being blamed (for turning Rizal's house green)," said Lazaro.

She said an elderly resident of Calamba even cried over the changes. Teenagers also started referring to it as a "disco house with neon colors."

A text message from a concerned individual read, "sansala po ako sa bagong pintura ng bahay na bato, kung mangalap kaya tayo ng pondo para po sa repainting sigurado ko po marami ang bukas-palad para dyan (I was surprised by the way the house was repainted. If we solicit funds for the repainting, I am sure many would give willingly.)"

Lazaro, however, said it would be too late to repaint the house in time for June 19, Rizal's birth anniversary.

Some people have mixed emotions about the repainting.

Another resident said Rizal's house "looks like a cake."

Dr. Virgilio Lasaga, tourism officer of Calamba, confirmed the negative feedback they have been receiving about Rizal’s green house.

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 09:40:05 PM »
Move over Martin Nievera.

Now your persecutor Ambeth Ocampo of the National Historical Institute should take his turn to be roasted for desecrating a national shrine.  Tsk, tsk. Which is worse, wrong tempo or bad taste? At least Martin can easily change his beat of the national anthem anytime, but now Ocampo has almost permanently damaged a national treasure.

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 12:26:29 AM »
The only people who gonna love that house is the John Deere lover.lol  In case you don't know John Deere is a farm machinery equiptment whose color is Green.Daghan die hard green color oi.

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 12:29:03 AM »
How dare they color the house of the Great Dr. Rizal?

This is outrageous!



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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 02:29:36 AM »
Have you ever seen the Calape church?

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 04:07:24 AM »



Akong pagtuo horrible jud siguro nga pagkagreen ang color sa House ni Rizal.At least ang Calape church naay beauty ug lantawon nimo ang Calape church sa among isla makaremember ko sa Cinderalla Castle.

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2009, 04:09:16 AM »
The Church in Calape matches with the blue sky there yonder.

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2009, 10:38:46 AM »
I think it's not about whether the color looks good on the structure or not. It's about preserving a historical relic in its original state. Ambeth Ocampo should be the first to know that restoration and reconstruction of historical structures is a highly delicate, specialized job that should be done  to make the restoration work almost unnoticeable. You don't just hire a fence-painter to overlay the sheen of a historical artifact.

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 11:16:50 AM »
Time changes. There is no so such thing as permanent in this world.

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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2009, 03:43:56 PM »



Akong pagtuo horrible jud siguro nga pagkagreen ang color sa House ni Rizal.At least ang Calape church naay beauty ug lantawon nimo ang Calape church sa among isla makaremember ko sa Cinderalla Castle.

Calape church is one of the churches in Bohol that I am proud of because of its very consistent design, Gothic in and out, hasta ang tiles, lingkoranan, altar, pointed arches jud. But sometimes, usab-usabon ang kolor sa pintal sa gawas. One time, mint green, peach and white. That's why ang uban mo comment nga mora kuno siyag cake with icing.  Well, mao pud nay nakalahi niya.

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2009, 04:52:53 PM »

I have started reading but was not able to complete Ambeth Ocampo's explanation. He talked about it in his column in the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

It's not clear whether Rizal's house was originally painted white. And the actual building which now stands is actually a reconstruction of the original which was razed by fire.



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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2009, 06:38:26 PM »
Looking Back
Why Rizal’s house turned green

By Ambeth Ocampo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:19:00 06/03/2009

Filed Under: history, Heroism, People, Places, Monuments & Heritage Sites

There is a brewing controversy in Calamba these days, and fortunately it has nothing to do with sex videos or corruption in government. Residents of this sleepy but traffic-prone Laguna town woke up one morning to see the Rizal Shrine painted a light shade of green. Generations used to the old, dirty gray color, or older folks who imagine all bahay na bato to be white reacted negatively. Within days a text brigade began, and some of the irate texts were forwarded to me.

Cultural Center of the Philippines president Emily Abrera and photographer Dulzzi Gutierrez sent me one text from potter Tessy Pettyjohn which began, “Some idiot has painted Rizal’s house green!”

I owned up to the deed and texted, “Hi Tessy, this is Ambeth, the idiot who painted Rizal’s house green.”

Pettyjohn may not have been convinced by my reasons but at least she listened.

Then a descendant of Rizal was brought into the fray. Barbara Gonzales, who is descended from Rizal’s sister Maria, was appalled by the color but was objective enough to print in her column the reason for the color change.

In many columns and lectures, I have always pointed out that Filipinos go through life seeing things but rarely noticing them. Rizal is a fine example: He is everywhere—on the one-peso coin, Rizal monuments gaze at all public schools, municipios, and capitolios all over the archipelago—but have we read his works? Do we know him at all?

Rizal’s house in Calamba is not just the place of his birth and early life, it should open our eyes to the agrarian roots of social unrest in the country. While our lawmakers debate the pros and cons of the Comprehensive Agrarian Reform Program, while farmers march to Congress to push for the implementation of CARP, we should remember that one of the seeds of Rizal’s heroism was that his family was evicted not just from Calamba but from Laguna. Contrary to popular belief, the Rizals did not own land; they were tenants of the Dominican hacienda. They refused to pay increased rent, went to court and lost.

In our imagination, we see Guardia Civil driving them away like the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) does to squatters. Contrary to popular belief, the Rizal house was not burned and razed to the ground. They took what they could and used the materials to build a new home and life in Manila.

The eviction of the Rizal family made Rizal speak out as forcefully and directly in “El filibusterismo.”

Rizal’s house in Calamba is not just a tourist spot, it is a place that should inform, educate and inspire. It should open our eyes to new ways of seeing.

Most negative reactions are understandable. “It should be painted the way Rizal saw it, the way history unfolded it.” For most people, Rizal’s house should be white and to paint it another color would be like, “dressing a 90-year-old woman in a tube and miniskirt.”

Only the Rizalistas were open enough to change and took the new green color to mean that Rizal was an environmentalist.

Let’s go into some history. Contrary to popular belief, the present Rizal Shrine is not the original home of the National Hero. It is not covered by the same rigid conservation principles applied to a 19th century house. The present Rizal Shrine is but half a century old, having been reconstructed by Juan Nakpil in the 1950s and funded by donations from schoolchildren. Nakpil based the reconstruction on a faded photograph of the house, and what was left of the original foundation found on the empty lot. The interiors are divided based on floor plans of existing colonial-period houses. The interior is bare because some descendants of Rizal refuse to loan pieces of furniture to the Calamba Shrine and insist that these should stay in Fort Santiago.

Contrary to popular belief not all bahay-na-bato were white. Based on archival research, Martin Tinio, formerly of the Intramuros Administration, suggests that houses had color in Spanish times, but were limited to available paint colors: blue, yellow, red and green. However, during the cholera epidemics in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, most bahay-na-bato were whitewashed with kalburo or lime in the belief that this was a disinfectant that would repel the plague. Hence, old houses in living memory are white.

Finally, the reason for painting Rizal’s house green highlights and informs visitors of the meaning of his surname. Following the 1849 Claveria decree giving surnames to Filipinos for tax and census purposes, the Rizals who were also known by their other surname Mercado (market) chose “Risal” from the “Catalogo alfabetico de apellidos.” The word comes from the Spanish “ricial” which describes a green field ready for harvest. It was hoped that after asking, “Why is Rizal’s house green?” the visitor will get a relevant answer: the green hues are meant to honor the memory of the Rizal family and their way of life.

My only regret is that despite our repeated instructions to find a green the color of palay or ripe rice stalk, the NHI historical preservation division didn’t take the initiative to have paint mixed specially for the Rizal Shrine and depended on the offensive, commercially available green paint. Nevertheless, it is hoped that the educational purpose of the new coat of paint far outweighs personal preferences.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2009, 06:59:56 PM »
Time changes. There is no so such thing as permanent in this world.

Sure! Time changes but some things are better as it were since it's original state or color for that matter give it's identity.... 

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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2009, 10:13:18 PM »
What a limp explanation from the country's top custodian of historical heritage. He seems like a child caught with his hand in a cookie jar, as shown by his last paragraph, which is neither a convincing explanation nor an honest-to-goodness apology.

Just because Ocampo has already committed the mistake of painting the shrine in garish green does not justify his smashing the historical tradition. So the original structure never stood there. But the present edifice was as close a representation of the original edifice as could possibly be reconstructed, and over the years has actually given rise to the tradition of being considered the original Rizal abode. The historical tradition is just as important as the structure itself.

Ocampo might as well have painted it red, and claimed that the colors represents the revolutions Rizal has inspired against the colonizers.

I'm forwarding this same comment to Ocampo's published e-mail.


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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2009, 11:26:00 PM »
Could it be that they painted Dr. Jose Rizal's house to prevent not to be  broken down and/or just to preserve it more for the future?  :-\  Why color green?  Good not white color....do we have still that WHITE HOUSE in Causeway, Tagb.?

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2009, 12:32:46 AM »
Time changes. There is no so such thing as permanent in this world.


sa technology yes but not antiques!

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2009, 01:07:11 AM »
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Why Rizal’s house turned green

By Ambeth Ocampo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:19:00 06/03/2009

Finally, the reason for painting Rizal’s house green highlights and informs visitors of the meaning of his surname. Following the 1849 Claveria decree giving surnames to Filipinos for tax and census purposes, the Rizals who were also known by their other surname Mercado (market) chose “Risal” from the “Catalogo alfabetico de apellidos.” The word comes from the Spanish “ricial” which describes a green field ready for harvest. It was hoped that after asking, “Why is Rizal’s house green?” the visitor will get a relevant answer: the green hues are meant to honor the memory of the Rizal family and their way of life.

My only regret is that despite our repeated instructions to find a green the color of palay or ripe rice stalk, the NHI historical preservation division didn’t take the initiative to have paint mixed specially for the Rizal Shrine and depended on the offensive, commercially available green paint. Nevertheless, it is hoped that the educational purpose of the new coat of paint far outweighs personal preferences.

Comments are welcome at [email protected]

Green? AYYY naKHO!  (yan ang reaction para 'yo Ambeth!)



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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2009, 12:39:07 PM »
In the words of Don Senor Marcelo Del Pilar (a great Filipino intelligentsia and reformer) in his speech in the Royal Spanish Cortes, "Que eres la realidad y la responsibilidad para las personas en La Filipinas? Es la responsibilidad en las frailes? en las prisonas en Manila y Madrid? Que lastima, senores? Nosotros gustamos El Credibilidad y Responsabilidad de los personas de la casa de Espanoles en la Cortes! Por Favor, Si!




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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 12:43:27 PM »
The irony of the situation, the great man and mind that was Rizal, the very root of many papers, intellectual discussions, the focal point of Filipino History and Revolutionary Thought, for Asian Liberation from Colonial Oppression, itself.

Rizal, the great mind himself, was even quoted by Mahatmas Gandhi.

And all the while, the Great Malayan Himself, Senor Doctor Jose Potracio Rizal y Alonzo, would have his home turned green.

It should have been preserved in its original color.
It should have remained in its firmament as is the thought and predicated message of Rizal. Rizal's message is not a changing one. His message is firm, is accurate, is one sided.

The man gave up his life for the freedom and for the love of his beloved Filipinas.

And now we have allowed our Great Hero's house to be colored green?

Preposterous!

I am disheveled. 

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2009, 12:45:29 PM »
I demand it be colored to its original color.

For the sake of Senor Dr. Jose P. Rizal!

Por Favor, para Senor Rizal!

The Father of the Republic!

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 07:43:57 PM »
i won't be surprised if Rizal Park in Luneta will be painted Blood Red next.

put it among your "to do list", Mr. Ambeth



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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 09:36:28 PM »
The house was reconstructed in the 1950s. What really was its color at the time of Rizal's death?

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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 10:47:24 PM »
i won't be surprised if Rizal Park in Luneta will be painted Blood Red next.

put it among your "to do list", Mr. Ambeth




bwahahhaha! ok ra ug blood red, glace!

ajaw lang nang menopausal red!


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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 10:50:23 PM »
"The only people who gonna love that house is the John Deere lover.lol  In case you don't know John Deere is a farm machinery equiptment whose color is Green.Daghan die hard green color oi."

raq: well-known baya ang tractor nga john deere.

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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2009, 10:55:18 PM »

bwahahhaha! ok ra ug blood red, glace!  ajaw lang nang menopausal red!

Naa diay menopausal red? Di ba kaha menopausal maroon . . . or menopausal brown?

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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2009, 04:11:55 AM »
Ug red ang i color sa balay ni Rizal daghan pud avid fan sa Case International Tractor kalaban ni sila sa John Deere so di gihapon wad an ug admirer ang balay. Ug ila unta nalang tong gipasagdan nga wa nay pintal ok unta kay at least makita pa ang original color plus sure jud ta ba nga karaang antique ang balay.
Akong suggestion iparestore nalang nila ug balik ang daang color kay naa nay technology karon nga bisan bag ong binuhat nga butang mura na ug antique tan awon.

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2009, 02:35:55 AM »
I actually got an explanation from Dr. Ambeth Ocampo wherein he explains that they actually scraped the different coating on the house's paint to find that the original color is green.

I am actually wondering why he does not categorically say this and instead insists on the "environmentalist" crap.

I would be happy to forward his (Ambeth Ocampo's) response to see whether he would actually stand by his email response.

Personally, I don't think it was ever green when Jose Rizal lived there.  He probably neglected the time when the house changed owners and at one point was used as a "bodega" when it was probably painted green.

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2009, 12:41:53 PM »
Dr. Rizal's house must be preserved to its original.
His memory is essential to this Republic and to the VERY identity of being a Filipino.

It was his writings, El Filibusterismo and Noli Mi Tangere that awokened the Great Malayan Spirit. The Virgin Land, that he so eloquently wrote in his works.

Jose Rizal stands on the same pedestal as that of George Washington for the Americans, or for William the Conqueror for the British, or for Simon Bolivar for the Bolivians, Columbians, Venezuelans, Paraguayeneros etc.

His fate was a parodoxical death.

He was executed to silence his political thought,
as what the colonial government thought.

But in the end, as History often does, his death brought the wailstorm that was the Philippine Revolutionary War. His death, led to the eventual birth of the First Philippine Republic, and to the notion of a Republica Filipinas. His blood--was the sacrificial blood that brought justification for the need to seperate from Spain, permanently.

So, as he spilled his blood for us--especially for those of us who were not born or alive during his time, we should--in remembrance, honor Jose Rizal with preservation.

Preserve his memory, his writings, his messages, his possessions, and even his home.

Because it is the physical remnant we have of him. Jose Rizal.
It is the beautiful remembrance that we have that Rizal once lived.
Once walked. Read, breathed air, and slept.

hehe.

If the man willfully died to give birth to a nation,
is preserving his home so much to ask for?



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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2009, 12:50:54 PM »
For me, Rizal is the ideal Physician.

His brilliance and his excellence---as he was educated and trained in Europe. Particularly in Madrid, Spain. One of the greatest medical institutional centers in the world. hehe.

Specializing in Opthalmology in France, and further studying and specializing in opthalmology in Germany.

At the same time, writing about the current situation of his native land.

He had everything: education, wealth, admiration from many Europeans, and physicians from abroad.

He gave it up. :)

He easily gave it up, to go back to his native land---even after being warned of the possibility of arrest and death. He returned, nonetheless.

He is, definitely one of my inspirations.

Rizal, is very Christ-Like in his own right.
A good and ideal Christian.

Long Live RIZAL!

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2009, 08:15:48 PM »
"Personally, I don't think it was ever green when Jose Rizal lived there.  He probably neglected the time when the house changed owners and at one point was used as a "bodega" when it was probably painted green."

the greenish color which the NHI people discovered upon scraping the wood and mistaking it for the original paint color was probably a kind of fungal growth that takes place when something is neglected for quite sometime. ever notice the greenish color that covers something when it is not cleaned for a considerable period of time? this happens with both wood and metal surfaces... hmmm.. reminds me of the greenish hue that the statue of liberty takes on after several years from the last cleaning.

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2009, 12:25:45 AM »
I agree with you, Bolingitboy.

It is preposterous to even think that Dr. Rizal lived in a green house. If we study Colonial Spanish History; houses even in Spain and in Spanish Americas (Nueva Espana, La Plata, Peru y Columbia y Aregentina-Chile were white stucco)

Any Spanish Historian would say that the color scheme of the day was usually white, stucco, and the roof formed with Spanish-style tiling. Typical Hispanic Architecture.
If one studies Imperial Architecture, the Spaniards borrowed Roman-Venitian structural techniques. The tiles, the roofing systems and the stucco format is an old Roman architecture---that was transfused in Spain---since Spain was a colony of the Roman Empire for 500 years.

And Spain, becoming a Global Empire for some 400 years---exported that architecture throughout the world. The color schemes were rather bland in those days.

If we observe the Plaza Mayor in Madrid, in Mexico City, in Manila and even in Caracas ---or any other Spanish City---if we observe and study the pictures or paintaings of the houses and buildings in the 18th -19th centuries---it is evident that the homes were bland in color. Color was usually brown, bricked red, or white stucco. The only color difference was the color of the roofing tiles. Which was usually brown, iron, copper, or black, or white depending on the economic status of the family.

Dr. Rizal, being an educated physician--and polymath--it would be accurate to surmise that he would he and his family could afford a higher-end home. Considering that they were able to spend the finance to send their son, Jose Rizal, to medical school in Spain (an expensive country to live in---in those days---and even today). As well as funding his studies and finance in Germany and France. hehe.



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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2009, 12:33:31 AM »
To illustrate what I was talking about, I shall provide pictures of some classic Imperial Spanish Villas that epitomizes Hispanic architecture. Which was very common in those days (Considering the Philippines/ Las Filipinas) was considered a Royal Spanish Colony. the culture and the rule of the day was Spanish. Anything Spanish. Philippines--at that time---was in the climax of Hispanization. The people spoke it as the national language---the attire they dressed was Spanish (maria clara, barong, vestido etc).

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Typical Spanish Villa:



Typical Spanish house.


Colonial Style. Note the white stucco, and red tiling.


Old Philippines. Rizal's home would have looked somewhat like these.
Note the white stucco. Not green.





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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2009, 09:28:29 PM »
lorenzo... good analysis, nice pics.

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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2009, 09:01:20 AM »
Dong Enzo,

Your incisive thinking in many disciplines--from medicine to languages to history (with Rizal-like breadth)--is amazing.

As to Ambeth Ocampo, if he can't tell moss from paint, he has no right to be the custodian of the country's historical treasures.

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2009, 01:03:55 PM »
Dr. Ambeth Ocampo’s reason for painting Rizal’s house green is based on his definition of the supposed Spanish word “ricial” which he claims is the source for the name “Rizal.”

He defines “ricial” as the color of palay when it’s just about ready for harvest.

As pointed out by many the color of rice ready to be harvested is not green–of whatever shade–but golden yellow. So based on his own reasoning, Ocampo seems to be in error.

His definition of “ricial” is also doubtful. “Ricial” accdg. to the Velazquez Spanish-English dictionary (http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/ricial) means “Growing again: applied to the aftercrop of corn, cut green for the feed of cattle.” So “ricial” refers to the idea of growing again. And the crop it refers to is not palay but corn.

If we then should apply Ocampo’s mental operation, what must prevail is the idea of growing again. How do we translate it into the outside world? Maybe Ocampo can think up of a way so that Rizal’s house keeps on growing either sideways or upwards or maybe downwards.

Ideally, it should grow so that ultimately the house will cover the entire country and perhaps someday the entire world. And why not all of the universe.

Ocampo’s way of popularizing Rizal’s name–his own unique, personal view of it, which is outside valid Spanish definition–is the kind of errant thinking up with which the people of Calamba and other right thinking people will not put.

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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2009, 10:13:50 PM »
This sounds like the limp argument of someone who refuses to own up to his mistake, and commits even more.

Why should Ambeth go into the etymology of "Rizal" to reconstruct a physical historical artifact? It's absurd to even think that Rizal--for all his polyglot ability--even thought of his name to decide on the color of his house.

Dr. Ambeth Ocampo’s reason for painting Rizal’s house green is based on his definition of the supposed Spanish word “ricial” which he claims is the source for the name “Rizal.”

He defines “ricial” as the color of palay when it’s just about ready for harvest.

As pointed out by many the color of rice ready to be harvested is not green–of whatever shade–but golden yellow. So based on his own reasoning, Ocampo seems to be in error.

His definition of “ricial” is also doubtful. “Ricial” accdg. to the Velazquez Spanish-English dictionary (http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/ricial) means “Growing again: applied to the aftercrop of corn, cut green for the feed of cattle.” So “ricial” refers to the idea of growing again. And the crop it refers to is not palay but corn.

If we then should apply Ocampo’s mental operation, what must prevail is the idea of growing again. How do we translate it into the outside world? Maybe Ocampo can think up of a way so that Rizal’s house keeps on growing either sideways or upwards or maybe downwards.

Ideally, it should grow so that ultimately the house will cover the entire country and perhaps someday the entire world. And why not all of the universe.

Ocampo’s way of popularizing Rizal’s name–his own unique, personal view of it, which is outside valid Spanish definition–is the kind of errant thinking up with which the people of Calamba and other right thinking people will not put.

VICENTE CALIBO DE JESUS
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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2009, 02:37:19 AM »
This sounds like the limp argument of someone who refuses to own up to his mistake, and commits even more.

Why should Ambeth go into the etymology of "Rizal" to reconstruct a physical historical artifact? It's absurd to even think that Rizal--for all his polyglot ability--even thought of his name to decide on the color of his house.


exactly!

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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2009, 09:46:28 AM »
This sounds like the limp argument of someone who refuses to own up to his mistake, and commits even more.

Why should Ambeth go into the etymology of "Rizal" to reconstruct a physical historical artifact? It's absurd to even think that Rizal--for all his polyglot ability--even thought of his name to decide on the color of his house.


Absolutely I agree. A poor defense, a poor explanation.

History students, historians can only chuckle at this poor excuse of an explanation.

In the words of Cicero, "Leaders of states are not the only ones to lie."

Viva Rizal!

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Re: Rizal Home Turned into Green House Draws Horrified Reaction
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2009, 09:50:21 AM »
This sounds like the limp argument of someone who refuses to own up to his mistake, and commits even more.

Why should Ambeth go into the etymology of "Rizal" to reconstruct a physical historical artifact? It's absurd to even think that Rizal--for all his polyglot ability--even thought of his name to decide on the color of his house.


Mr. Benne, I love your points. I cannot help but smile as I sip my cup of chai. hehe!

Ocampo has changed his status into a preservationist historian into a defense lawyer.

We are not asking Ocampo to define the name of Rizal. We are simply requesting that the home of Rizal be preserved in its original schematics. hehe

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