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Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« on: March 28, 2011, 03:28:58 PM »

fellow tb members, i've been at it in the last 3 days.  nothing.  those who are experts at music research in the internet, please help me with cliff richard's "THIS DAY"* and the original tausug lyrics of "BALELENG".  (i already have the visayan and tagalog versions--max surban, freddie aguilar--and the guitar chords, but i wish for the original tausug version.) 

VHINZ, you're good at this.  i hope you're still around.  mp3 is very much welcome.  a youtube one will take hours of downloading, considering the internet speed here, where i am.  besides, i hope to be able to listen to these two songs while driving.  i also hope to play this on the violin (hehe, ambisyosang kabaw).

i truly love old songs.  my sincere thanks.


*lyrics start with "this day could have been/ just an ordinary day...etc."

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 05:42:00 PM »
Hmm. Hain na kaha diay tos Bay Vhinz. Tagolilong ra pud. Nilipot lang sa kahoy unya nawala na, nakakita lang hinuon tag nuno sa punso...

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 11:44:36 AM »
Unsa imo gipangita Ms Isle, lyrics or MP3 sa "This Day" ug "Baleleng?"


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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 12:58:07 PM »

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 11:22:21 PM »
Unsa imo gipangita Ms Isle, lyrics or MP3 sa "This Day" ug "Baleleng?"

lyrics sa "baleleng" nga original tausug version, fr chic.  (naa na ko sa bisaya ni max surban ug tagalog ni freddie aguilar aning kantaha, apil guitar chords).  it would be nice to know the original lyrics of this song.  as for "this day" ni cliff richard, i wish for an mp3 unta.

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2011, 12:17:42 AM »
ms isle, try mp3raid.com

took your suggestion, chongks, and i finally got "this day" now.  thanks much. 

hehehe, ka-crude pa intawon sa duyog aning kantaha.  but i like the lyrics so i thought i might as well have the song.  thanks again.

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 02:53:27 AM »
This has the tune of baleleng, but i think this is the islamicized version of the song.

I hope this comes useful for you. i have no idea what is being said.

Baleleng(Rukun Islam Lima) By:Obsie

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 02:55:20 AM »
This is the Tausug Version of 'Baleleng'

The name is Bujang Manis.

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 02:56:28 AM »
Note: The Tausug Language sounds very similar to Bahasa Malayu.


I like the tune tho i cannot understand what is being said.

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 03:19:30 AM »
Nice recording Bran. Great find, too. I think I saw the movie used on this video hehehehe  ;)

Note: Nothing like the traditional or original Baleleng

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 03:22:27 AM »
Here's the real Tausog Baleleng per YouTube post


Tausug Baleleng

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 03:29:20 AM »
Here's another find... you have to see/listen to the video to check dialect used

This is Grace Nono's version of the Sama, Tausug, Yakan, Badjao, Bangingi (Philippine southern ethno-linguistic groups) traditional song "Baleleng." "Leleng" is a term of endearment which means "beloved," or "darling." Throughout history, the Baleleng melody has been recycled to present new situations and stories.

Many versions have been made of this song. (Jakiri 1998) This one uses Grace Nono's original melodic passages and Tagalog lyrics about the Filipino overseas worker. Arrangement and record production is by Bob Aves. Guest vocals is by Taalao Manandao, a Sama traditional artist. Dance is by Nerissa Guevarra.

Video Director: Mark Ocampo
Cinematographer: Julius Villanueva
Editor: Arvin Mancilla
Special photo credits to KAKAMPI and Filipino workers all over the world


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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2011, 03:35:29 AM »
Thanks. Grace Nono's voice is so deep. It's grounded with the graces and richness of the Earth, primal as the streams of water flowing by the rice paddies. Her voice is soul-piercing.



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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2011, 03:37:15 AM »
Ms Isle, you're a gem finder!!! This thread is a super addition to my musical/cultural ignorance!!!    :)

Discussion GRP on Baleleng

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILA/message/10069

Folks:


I asked P. Emraida Kiram to provide me with the lyrics of the Tausug love song, Baleleng.  Here below is the first stanza which she tried to translate into Cebuano Visayan but she admits it is incomplete, so perhaps someone out there can help.....

The music of this song is really beautiful. Have you heard it? sung it? Does anyone in DILA know the whole lyrics? Can anyone translate the whole piece into Cebuano Visayan?

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BB:  I only know the first stanza.  I am trying to get the rest of the song from a friend here in Milw who used to sing it during our Karaoke sessions.I am sending this to you, so that I can get rid of the tune in my head.  It seems to be singing itself.  Note:  that the song is To: Leleng   I think by the time the christians got hold of the song, they made it one word: "Baleleng"  - it should be ba Leleng.  As Leleng is the name of the maiden.

Ba Leleng

Pila na ba Leleng layu-layu
Sitangkay ba Leleng pa Sibutu
Bang kasi bunal ba Leleng
Matuyu urul kau ba Leleng pa malayu.

English:
How far is it Leleng
From Sitangkay to Sibutu (these are islands in the Sulu archipelago)
If you really are determined
Then follow me.


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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 03:48:43 AM »
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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2011, 04:07:22 AM »
It appears to me that this song is originally or traditionally Tausog covered by many artists esp. the most popular one by Max Surban. Ambot ngano giangkon man nga si Max Surban ang composer ani? Maybe the Cebuano translation only... unsa bay tinuod Ms. Isles?

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2011, 09:14:55 AM »
It appears to me that this song is originally or traditionally Tausog covered by many artists esp. the most popular one by Max Surban. Ambot ngano giangkon man nga si Max Surban ang composer ani? Maybe the Cebuano translation only... unsa bay tinuod Ms. Isles?

i believe max surban can only claim as original his own cebuano version of the song.  i even doubt if he himself was the one who translated this, though i don't know any better.

as far as i can remember, when i got curious about this song in the early '80s (max surban's version was recorded in 1978) because my then 3-year-old bol-anon jamong niece frequently sang this, my father said that it's a tausug folk song and that max surban's version somehow caused "their world" and "our world" to get closer. 

i thought then that the words "sitangkay" and "sibuto" were just a 3-year-old's gobbledygook, until i saw a poster at the post office and realized that these were places in tawi-tawi that are reachable by mail!  i just had to do some research because i felt i was taking for granted some places in my own country while i can go to great lengths to find out where in denmark the castle of elsinore of shakespeare's hamlet is.

then i let the song rest in my mind's back burner.  the next time i paid attention to this song was when i named one of our chickens "baleleng".   


 

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2011, 09:21:37 AM »
the song's music had always been haunting, but now the song itself had come back to haunt me.  i was stumped when our household help, a tagalog, said that "baleleng" is originally tagalog as sung by freddie aguilar.  so i showed her, if only because it gets my goat when tagalog versions of cebuano songs are claimed by tagalogs as their own compositions (the most infamous: "kasadya ning taknaa" christmas song).

the best wake-up call of all:  a non-filipino here played "baleleng" on the electronic organ.  i felt like crying.  

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2011, 12:55:36 PM »
Ba Leleng

Pila na ba Leleng layu-layu
Sitangkay ba Leleng pa Sibutu
Bang kasi bunal ba Leleng
Matuyu urul kau ba Leleng pa malayu.

English:
How far is it Leleng
From Sitangkay to Sibutu (these are islands in the Sulu archipelago)
If you really are determined
Then follow me.


sitangkay (or sitangkai) and sibutu (or sibuto) turns out to be only 21.18kms apart.  the clincher: the sea separates them. they must have been unthinkably far from each other in the old days, when the song 'baleleng' was composed.



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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2011, 01:06:59 PM »
the phrase 'aparri to jolo' had always been wrong.  whoever coined that (circa 1950s or 1960s?) didn't think of the northernmost and southernmost small islands that are part of the country.  it should have been batanes to tawi-tawi.  better still, babuyan to sitangkai. ???

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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2011, 01:09:14 PM »

thank you very much, fr chic and lorenz, for your 'baleleng' song posts.  i'm still halfway through downloading them all and converting them to mp3.  the choral rendition is great!  at the moment, i'm converting the nono version.  thanks!

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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2011, 01:26:38 PM »
sitangkay (or sitangkai) and sibutu (or sibuto) turns out to be only 21.18kms apart.  the clincher: the sea separates them. they must have been unthinkably far from each other in the old days, when the song 'baleleng' was composed.

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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2011, 01:27:29 PM »
the freddie aguilar tagalog version has a better orchestration than max surban's.  at least, i convinced our household help that the 'second original' is visayan and not tagalog as freddie's version came about a decade later as a theme song of a movie that starred lito lapid and monica herrera.  (i don't know the movie's title.)

blazes!  there's also an ilonggo version and a claim that theirs is the original! ::) 

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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2011, 01:28:29 PM »
Layo-layo baya kay maglangoy ra man...

langoy diay?  i thought they walked on water. ;D

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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2011, 01:40:03 PM »
blazes!  there's also an ilonggo version and a claim that theirs is the original! ::) 

Hilonggo na gid ina, ano pa ba hang pinsar mo haw... ;D

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2011, 01:42:14 PM »
langoy diay?  i thought they walked on water. ;D

Pwede maglakaw sa dagat basta way hunong nga ang pagkantag "Baleleng". Ang nakaparat (sa tubig, he he) kay kon mayabag ka, segurado kang motidlom... ;D

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2011, 10:57:21 PM »




Now I'm even more convinced that this song is an Islander's Love Song. Hmmm, no wonder...  ;)

Mora nig Hawaii Five-O  ;D

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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2011, 11:01:57 PM »
the phrase 'aparri to jolo' had always been wrong.  whoever coined that (circa 1950s or 1960s?) didn't think of the northernmost and southernmost small islands that are part of the country.  it should have been batanes to tawi-tawi.  better still, babuyan to sitangkai. ???

Wa pa bayay tricycle sa una, kung di maabot ug habal-habal, aw, di maapil sa listahan sa mga isla hehehehe  ;D

Ergo, daghang isla naapil sa "unlisted number" bwahahaha  ;D


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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2011, 11:09:01 PM »
Pwede maglakaw sa dagat basta way hunong nga ang pagkantag "Baleleng". Ang nakaparat (sa tubig, he he) kay kon mayabag ka, segurado kang motidlom... ;D

ibig sabihin, kapila na diay tawon ka motidlom? ;D

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2011, 11:10:29 PM »
Now I'm even more convinced that this song is an Islander's Love Song. Hmmm, no wonder...  ;)

Mora nig Hawaii Five-O  ;D

hehe, di gyod tuod ni mahimong theme song sa new orleans. ;D

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2011, 11:11:58 PM »
Ms Isle, you're a gem finder!!! This thread is a super addition to my musical/cultural ignorance!!!    :)

Pila na ba Leleng layu-layu
Sitangkay ba Leleng pa Sibutu
Bangka si bunal   ba Leleng
Matuyu urul kau ba Leleng pa malayu.


My humble translation (LoL)

Pila na daan sa pier inday kay lajo jamo tong pikas isla:
Sitangkai padung Sibutu, mga 2o kilometros
Bangka ra tawon atong sakjan, bunal ra tawon bugsay
Ma tuyo (uga) na lang atong shorts ug bikini inig abot sa kalayu, baleleng!  ;D



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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2011, 11:13:31 PM »
Wa pa bayay tricycle sa una, kung di maabot ug habal-habal, aw, di maapil sa listahan sa mga isla hehehehe  ;D

Ergo, daghang isla naapil sa "unlisted number" bwahahaha  ;D


na, kun akoy baleleng sa una, maayo pa diay kun serena na lang ko kay makataboktabok pa sa mga isla. ???

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2011, 11:17:50 PM »
My humble translation (LoL)

Pila na daan sa pier inday kay lajo jamo tong pikas isla:
Sitangkai padung Sibutu, mga 2o kilometros
Bangka ra tawon atong sakjan, bunal ra tawon bugsay
Ma tuyo (uga) na lang atong shorts ug bikini inig abot sa kalayu, baleleng!  ;D


fatay!  ahat man ning nahimong pier sa tagbilaran... morag sugbu ang pikas isla nga gilangoy ra ni lapulapu (wa motidlom sama ni hubag) gikan sa talibon, naatlan hinoon niya si magellan, da, gikanta lagi ni yoyoy nga amigo ni max surban.  asa na man ning istoryaha padung... ???

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2011, 11:17:51 PM »
hehe, di gyod tuod ni mahimong theme song sa new orleans. ;D

Pwede gid basta panahon sang Hurricane ug baha. Daghan baya pod baruto ug baleleng deri





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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2011, 11:21:11 PM »

hahaha!  tuay baleleng nagpanghipi sa may simbahan.  klaro kaayo sa aerial view.  hala ka, 'dre!

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2011, 11:21:28 PM »
fatay!  ahat man ning nahimong pier sa tagbilaran... morag sugbu ang pikas isla nga gilangoy ra ni lapulapu (wa motidlom sama ni hubag) gikan sa talibon, naatlan hinoon niya si magellan, da, gikanta lagi ni yoyoy nga amigo ni max surban.  asa na man ning istoryaha padung... ???

Maoy ako kining "bugsay" nga apil sa lyric, tawo kini as in Bay Bugsay nga amigo ni Bay Hubag. Di kaha ni sila miembro sa Kuratong Baleleng ning duha? Aguuuy nisamot ug tipas... ;D


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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2011, 11:25:25 PM »
Maoy ako kining "bugsay" nga apil sa lyric, tawo kini as in Bay Bugsay nga amigo ni Bay Hubag. Di kaha ni sila miembro sa Kuratong Baleleng ning duha? Aguuuy nisamot ug tipas... ;D


morag katuhoan, sigon sa maaninaw nga abilidad aning duha.  tb pa na.  unsa na kaha sa personal.  labi nag ubanan sa serena nga bolbuhol.  moaso tingali ning tulo kun benditahan...  ;D

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Re: Need Help with Two Songs, Please
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2011, 03:48:58 AM »
Here's the latest Baleleng...

Urban flow - Baleleng


BALELENG

Yo mutya ka baleleng ako'y naprapraning
Kapag nakita ako'y naduduling
Palitan ko na kaya may GF Luningning
Pagka't iba talaga ang iyuong dating o baleleng

The first time I saw her thought I could die
Naku d'yos ko day ako'y hinihimatay
Sa ganda ni Baleleng panis ang Bumbay
At ang dating nito'y puwedeng pang Miss Mabuhay

Kaya't everyday ako'y buhay na buhay
Baleleng is like fire she burn my sungay
Kaya ngayon ang buhay ko ay makulay
Coz Baleleng yo is my
I wanna be insane coz my world is full of pain
And when I met Baleleng
Ako'y nagka-insane in the brain

Chorus:
Ikaw lang ang aking mahal...
Ikaw lang ang aking mahal...

At nu'ng isang gabi'y hindi ako makatulog
'Di man lang inaantok at ang kati ng batok
Na lang ako'y may favorite slumbook
At ako'y napatulog sa sagling antok

Ngunit ako'y nabulabog sa tahol ng aking dog
Ako'y kinabahan at nangangatog
Dahil may narinig akong may kumakatok
Ako'y kabang kaba dahil ala-una na ng umaga

When I opened the door ako ay nagulat
Si Baleleng pala wow ang kinis ng balat
Come in pumaok ka baka makakuha ka pa ng
I can't control my feeling at atat na atat

Ako'y humiga tumabi siya sa akin
Para kaming pinagdikit na bituin
Baleleng mahal kita at wala nang iba

Repeat Chorus:

At noong gabing iyon I proposed to Baleleng
Just marry me and I'll give you everything
Do everything show you everything
Just to prove you how much I love you Baleleng

Coz you are the girl the girl that I want
The girl of my type and the girl that I like
And I will do what you like gustuhin ko man
Gagawin ko lahat ng gusto mo

Huwag na lang mawalay sa piling ko
Dahil dahil sa 'yo gumaganda ang buhay ko
Pati ugali ko ay binago mo
O Baleleng ang pag-ibig natin

Is never never ending you know what I'm saying
And I want you to know you're always in my heart
O Baleleng

Repeat Chorus: (3x)

Coda:

I love you Baleleng



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