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Into Your Heart => Love Talk => Topic started by: sumbohan on January 11, 2011, 09:13:01 AM

Title: relationship with priest
Post by: sumbohan on January 11, 2011, 09:13:01 AM
who do you think ang sad an? ang girl ? o ang priest? i have a friend who is in that kind of relationship.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 11, 2011, 02:35:52 PM

I think silang duha ang happy an.

 ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 02:51:17 PM

Both parties are adults, both parties know the effects, and if they are still inclined to continue the relationship, then the priest should leave the priesthood proper and cease living a double life. If he cannot honor the calling of the priesthood, one pillar of which is priestly celibacy, then leave the priesthood.

Simple.

There is nothing wrong with living a life of the laity, one can still live a holy life and not be a priest. If they both love each other, then so be it. For me lang, the male should leave the priestly vocation so as he can devote all of himself to his lover.

God Bless them both.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
I have many times thought of entering the seminary during my college years. Many times i thought of a priestly vocation. Truly.

However, I know that I cannot comply with the priestly celibate lifestyle. I have my own sins. And i know my own limitations.

That was my deciding factor.



Peace.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: david on January 11, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
dili na sa'  og silang duha nalipay, ang ang na lang pod og ang pari mag sigi na lang  og ugay2x hangtod sa tibook niyang  kinabuhi. motilaw gud pod siyag niluto sa ginoo og lamian ba.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 11, 2011, 03:13:02 PM

Kay mag ugay2x ba diay, Bay Dave?  ???
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 03:18:42 PM
bitaw, there is nothing wrong with falling in love. in fact, i have a tito who was a priest, but left the priesthood in order to court a woman whom he fell in love with. both are now married.

the priesthood is not for everyone.

perhaps, the priest that the OP mentioned is doubting his decision. If he feels that he truly loves the woman, he should considering leaving the vocation and live a private life, and God-willing, even marry this woman if it is in his plans, of course.

whatever his decision is, i hope he discerns and prays. may the Holy Spirit help him discern to make the right choice. he has to pick one from the other.


----

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.

--Mathew 6:24
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 03:22:11 PM
i would even compare this to a man having an affair.

a man who is married , and has children with his wife ; and at the same time is having an affair with another woman. is this right? morally, is it right?

the answer is : no , it is morally wrong. it is an affront to the wife, and the children. tho it be pleasing to the man and his mistress, sexually.

in the end, it is wrong.

a priest , when ordained, is married to Christ and the Church.

a food for thought.

:)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 11, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
the bottomline....... let the priests marry, legalize it or just leave the priesthood. at least we know the reason that they fall in love with the opposite sex and not of the same sex... ;) God will understand, I think. However, if the Roman Catholic Church would implement stiffer penalty because of this mere violation or breaking the vows of celibacy/ chastity... one of these days, we'll  run out of priests... ;).. priests have the feelings to.... whether we like or not, they are subject to..

may kaila kong pari diri sa Davao, siya ang nag blessing sa among pugad... may pamarog sab, basketball player ika nga, hitsuraan.. makaingon gyod ang mga anak ni Eva, pagka sayang gyod nimo Padre..!
tingala ko nawala sa parokya..... nahibalo na lang ko, migawas sa serbisyo, ga minjo.. bow..! wise decision.. less mistakes.. less sins... di ba?... ;)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 04:07:25 PM

hehehe, that would solve the problem wouldn't it, bai aquarius? in fact, the eastern catholic rite permits their priests to marry. orthodox priests are also allowed to marry, if my memory serves me right.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 11, 2011, 04:12:49 PM


Bai Bran/ Lorenz..

Bitaw, nganong magtago-tago pa man sa sotana.. hehehehe... if we focus on "service", married priests or former priests can still of great service to his fellow, status ra may nausab from "single" to "married" hehehe...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 04:13:03 PM

i admire your friend, bai. at least he did not live a life of duplicity. he not only left the priesthood to marry a woman (which is honorable, actually, am sure he took some time to discern that life-changing decision). he chose one or the other. but then again, there are some priests that do choose to live a double life style.

as much as many people would look down on some priests for leaving the priesthood to pursue marriage / private life, i actually have alot of respect for them.

because i can imagine how hard it was for them to leave a calling that they had in their youth.

however, it only reinforces the notion that not all men are cut out to be priests. lengthy discernment is necessary , imho, before one truly realizes if a priestly life is for them.


peace!!
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 11, 2011, 04:19:05 PM

hehehe. true true. good point. in fact, my tito, who left the priesthood to marry is a lay minister now. he is a really good man, from the way he talks, to his mannerisms.

seminarians , generally, have a distinct characteristic feature about them. their reservation and their professionalism is something that makes them stand out.

tho my tito no longer is a priest, he still retains some of those priestly traits. he is a very good man.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: david on January 11, 2011, 09:40:09 PM
og di mo tilaw sa putahi, ugay-ugayon na lang jud, unsa pa may lain :o :o :o
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: vrglguapo on January 11, 2011, 10:33:03 PM
Ang Pari gani nga magminyo unsa man ang itawag sa kanila?...Padre de Familia hehehe...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: islander on January 12, 2011, 12:07:49 AM
priests are trained to handle their emotions.  should some stray, it is not for the rest of the world to condemn them.  the important thing for anyone is not to live a lie.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 12, 2011, 03:08:28 AM
Mao nay giingon... kung nakasala, pasayloon... kung wala makasala, atong daygon. Hmmmm... tug-an sa tinuod!!!  ;)

In any case, I salute those who survived and those who did not... the celibate life.

On the other hand, the Eastern Catholic Church (Roman or Western Catholic Church does not) allow their priests to marry... so wala diay sila kasala kay pwede man sa ilang balaod? "Tsk tsk tsk," matud pa ni San Pedro. Kalooy ba sa mga Roman Catholics, hehehe.  ;D

Tagnaa unsang tuiga o century nagsugod ang law on "priestly celibacy?" Does that mean, didto na nagsugod pagpakasala sa mga pari nga masupilon? Hehehehe  :P

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: david on January 12, 2011, 03:15:21 AM
Padz angay kusion ang bugan sa pari nga masupilon ug bigaon
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: statesville on January 12, 2011, 07:26:30 AM
Usa ra ang pilia, "Huwag kang  mamangka sa dalawang ilog"... :D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 08:20:28 AM

He he, Bay Aqs, opposite sex jud kay dili pwede magminyo kon same sex?  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 08:23:30 AM
the important thing for anyone is not to live a lie.[/b]

Sa ato pa diay,
Maypa matay?


 ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
Labi na kon duha ra ang imong itlog...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 12, 2011, 12:41:44 PM

Aw, sa ilog ang usa ug sa dagat pod ang usa, hahahaha. Fresh and salt water, ika nga.  Ajaw lang brackish hehehe;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 01:08:48 PM

He he, ang sa sapa, fresh egg; ang sa dagat, salted egg...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: islander on January 12, 2011, 02:43:51 PM

naunsa na man ni?  hahaha!  pari ang gihisgotan niliko na man sa itlog?  naa ba moy century eggs dinha? ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 02:50:57 PM

He he, itlog sa pari, buk-on di na mauli. Unsa man?  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 02:52:47 PM

Kanang century eggs, mao nay itlog nga tua gihumol sa brackish water, he he...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: david on January 12, 2011, 03:04:11 PM
kabannnnnnn
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: islander on January 12, 2011, 03:05:06 PM

wa ko kahibawo kun mas maayo pa ba,
mora man tingalig puro maayo ang duha.

hehe, mahinumdom na man sad ko ani ni richard hunter sa imong 'maypa matay'.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: islander on January 12, 2011, 03:05:45 PM

lubi.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: islander on January 12, 2011, 03:08:02 PM

bolbuhol ug bugsay, hahaha! ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 12, 2011, 03:31:49 PM

Bwahaha! Kinsa kahay salted egg sa duha!  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: sumbohan on January 17, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
salamat kaajo sa mga ng reply. ang problema man gud kay kaning paria nailhan na jud na talimaje. daghan kaayo ug txtmate na babay. unya mga malay ay pa jud ang ipangtxt.
unya hitsoraan pa jud. taas na tao. basketplayer jud. bisan unsaon namo ug tambag sa amoang miga dili man mopatoo.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 17, 2011, 12:19:38 PM

Mora diay nig sine. Naa may joke bahin ani. Mao daw ni sulti sa babaye: "Father, father... make me a mother." Bwahahaha!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 17, 2011, 12:36:59 PM

Permi tingali mahilangit ang inyong miga mao nga di magpabadlong...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 17, 2011, 05:57:07 PM

Sumbuhan..

feeling secured imong amiga aning paria, langit sa piling ni Father ;D ;D.. naa ra na sa imong amiga kung padayon siyang magpatonto sa pari, kung ilado ning pagka palakiro ning paria nganong wa may nag initiate nga petisyonan, syempre magpadayon ni's iyang kabuang samtang gatago sa iyang sotana... unya mag wali-wali about moral issues, about the ten commandments, "though shall not covet your neighbor's wife".... but if your neighbor's wife covets you, though shall not refuse... :D :D  peace..! .. peace..!.."ay sapagkat kami ay tao lamang (commom alibi)...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 17, 2011, 11:58:56 PM
tsk tsk tsk. dili na lang ko mo comment kai ma sakitan ang tawo.

God Bless the priest. I hope he makes the right decision...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Scarb on January 18, 2011, 01:43:05 AM
Daghan na kaau nga thread popareha aniy..basta love-marriages and priest gani ang subjects..hit-hot jud hmnn  ::)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Scarb on January 18, 2011, 01:48:45 AM

Korekong..aw eh korekekek ANALization bai Aqua..bow ! mao na gina ingon:adah oroi bawo ba?
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: david on January 18, 2011, 02:22:30 AM
og pangutan-on ang pari, padre nganong naa may lampin gipang hayhay sa kombento, tubag pod sa pari  og di ko modawat og labada ang abuloy kuwang pa
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Scarb on January 18, 2011, 02:28:18 AM

ug dli modawat ug labada..mapasmo ko ky mga tawo karon erihis na,pati bukag sa kolekta intresan pa? hik§..peace po  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: david on January 18, 2011, 02:31:13 AM
hahahahaha daghan na diay og irihis ron, murag naapil nako  kay wa na jud koy simba2x
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: statesville on January 18, 2011, 03:16:17 AM
...."Do what I say, do not follow what I do"..maoy pulong aning paria sa iyang pagmisa..ops. :-X
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 18, 2011, 06:55:48 AM

David...

 ;D ;D ;D bali sideline.... hehehe.... basin daghan gisustentohan hahahahaha...! peace..!
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 18, 2011, 07:14:47 AM

Scarb..

pang "Dear Dr. Love" ning gipaabot nga problema ni Sumbuhan bahin saiyang amiga ug sa karelasyon nga pari medyo lisod-lisod hehehehe... kay bisan unaon nimo'g ingon nga "bawal na pag-ibig"  >:( molighot man gyod, ika nga.."love always finds a way.."  ;)...

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 18, 2011, 09:15:31 AM

Hmm. Wa ba kaha makaingon ning bayhana nga mas OK ang pari kay sa tawo nga minjo? Kay ang Ginoo mosabot pero ang asawa dili?

 ???
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 18, 2011, 09:26:08 AM

Hmmmm. Ug di ba kaha nakamatngon sila nga, "mas dali pa ipangayog pasaylo kaysa mangayog permiso."

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 18, 2011, 09:34:37 AM

Sin now, repent later? (Nga sa Binisaya pa, pasagdahi lang una nang atop, unya ra pintalig usab?)  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 18, 2011, 10:06:14 AM

Bay Hubs..

abi nako "sin now.. nipa sunod"... hehehehe... na enjoy ko ning topica... "wa ba'y nakarelasyon diha'g madre?... sa totoo mga gwapa baya kasagaran ning mga madre... naa bitaw ko'y kaila silingan namo sa Surigao del Sur, close family friend,  na shock ko kay nag madre, Directress pa gyod in one of the colleges somewhere in Luzon... akong gipadalhan ug message sa fb.. " bridge (bridgette) wa ko magdahom nga nag madre ka?... ka gwapa nimo.... mitubag man lang nga, " give the best to God.." hehehe... sabagay may punto sab. mao-mao ra ni sa problema ni sumbuhan, iyang amiga,  pogi ang pari tangkad baskebolista... maayo wa moingon ang pari .."sala ko ba diay kini nga daan naman kong ambongan..?" ... hehehehe..
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 18, 2011, 10:12:17 AM

He he, no comment lang ko aning gwapa nga madre...

Bitaw, kay matod pa sa Proverbs 9:17, "Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant."
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 18, 2011, 01:55:30 PM

Pedro: Bag-o lagi pintura imo atup, Juan?

Juan: Mao may advice ni Fr. Joshua sa Mass gahapon

Pedro: Unsa man diay ang giingon ni Padre?

Juan: REPAINT YOUR SIN!!!
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Scarb on January 20, 2011, 10:13:40 PM

aduy..aduy..vista de belyard..^_^..hit na ..hot pa nga lambo.. ::)

unja kita ka galambang sila? basin baya huhongihong ra pod na..ana ra ba ta mga pinoy mag-una..! unja ang radyo baktaz pod morag ginamos dli pwede wlay pakapin unä..jeje
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Scarb on January 20, 2011, 10:21:34 PM

aduy² agoi..,baZin crush nmo ang gurl ha,unja gi deadma ka,ky abi nmo tua midikit sa pari ..sa makong baZin fren lang sila?
suyä ka nup? bwahahaha peace..(jokes ra ha?)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 20, 2011, 10:29:06 PM

OK ra kon crush nija ang gurl. Ang delikado kon crush nija ang pari! Joke3x!  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Scarb on January 20, 2011, 10:33:59 PM

yatap§ kang bata ka..ilanzang sa cruz ug porongporongan sa mga maidlot nga tumoy..! hee³  :-X
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 20, 2011, 10:37:53 PM

Bwahaha! Kahinumdom hinuon ko ani nga joke:

Hubog: Ilansang ang mga bayut!
Bayut: Managan ta!
Hubog: Utin ang gamiton!
Bayut: Mamalik ta!



 ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: morning bell on January 28, 2011, 05:56:56 PM
 bitaw oi, malouy bya ko anang mga pari... me myself kahibawo sa ilang struggle not to fall into this...lisud man gud ang paglahutay, daghan temtasyon... 


pero naa gyud poy mga badlongon nga nga nagpatuyang lang sa ilang gibati...
unsa kahay mahimo nato ani kita nga mga lay..
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 28, 2011, 07:57:35 PM
me myself kahibawo sa ilang struggle not to fall into this[/b]...lisud man gud ang paglahutay, daghan temtasyon... 

Nganong suheto man diay ka tuod, Ms. MB, if you don't mind my asking...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: BolBuhol on January 28, 2011, 08:32:09 PM

ano gid gina stagol sang mga pari way gid sila soheldo
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 28, 2011, 08:37:04 PM

Hostiyas gid lang ang ginakaon sang pari ya.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: BolBuhol on January 28, 2011, 08:50:38 PM

ungsa mang pod ang imon sir ginagkaon kag ginag usapusap
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 28, 2011, 09:03:38 PM

Indi gid iban sang imon, orginaryong pagkaom gid lang ya.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: morning bell on January 29, 2011, 12:34:44 PM


ang2, hubagbohol.... daghan man kog frenship nga irap....
ga unload man cla sahay sa ilang mga inner thots & feelings ngari nako, kay pwera buyag kamao man pud ta maminaw...
yawat na lang ma lighten gamay ang ilang load ba.....

wa niy dobol meaning ha??? unahan lang to mo kay u know na ;)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: fdaray on January 29, 2011, 01:06:29 PM
bisan asa naa gid pari nga may relation . Ginatago lang gid nila. May puso gid sila magsiling sa ilang ginabatyag. Siling sa  damo nga mga pari, Love one another aron makatuman sang sugo sa Diyos.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 29, 2011, 01:59:17 PM

He he, sureness ko nga ang imong mga frenship nga irap mga buotan pud kay morag buotan man pud ka, gawas nga swertehon pa jud.

Dobol meaning? Wa, oi. Aw, ambot lang kaha to si Toto Bol kon mao ba pud.

Taga-lighten diay ka sa ilang load? Pasaload diay...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 29, 2011, 02:02:30 PM

Ginatago lang gid pero may adlaw nga gumigil-it ang itlog nga kanilang ginabatyag...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 29, 2011, 03:04:42 PM

Bisan asa gid d i Sir FD? From a PARI to JOLO?  :D

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: BolBuhol on January 29, 2011, 03:48:22 PM

bisan gid erdam ka ms mb,  naga anloding mang ka gid sang ilang mga lod kag damo gid kabugat kabudlay sang ginagdala, pude gid ako magapa aplod sang imo gid
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 29, 2011, 04:21:18 PM

Manugseguro ka lang nga tam-is ang aplod mo gid.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: BolBuhol on January 29, 2011, 04:38:16 PM

tam-is pa sang latik sang negros gid sir hubagbohol
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 29, 2011, 04:54:20 PM

Tam-is kag pilit? Manugsulong kag manugdukot diay maskin lingganay sang aga gid man.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: morning bell on January 29, 2011, 11:23:42 PM

hahaha!!!!!!   kanahan oi....
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 29, 2011, 11:29:09 PM

Ngaa kumadlaw ka gid, ne?  
Nganong nikatawa man ka, day?

(Ambot sakto ba...) ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on January 30, 2011, 09:48:12 AM
Mora'g amgid-amgid ni sa gipasiugdahan ni "sumbohan"...

Tambagi ko Noy Kulas: Uyab ni Father
Friday, January 28, 2011

DEAR Noy Kulas,

Tautaud na unta kong nakasuwat nimo apan nagpanagana ko kay gawas nga di ni akoang problema, nagpanagana sab ko nga masuko ang akoang amiga.
Ingon ani man gud. Dihang mo-graduate pa mi sa college, nakauyab siyag hapit na mahimong pari. Nagpadayon ang ilang relasyon hangtod nga mi-graduate mi sa college. Sa sinugdan okay lang ang akoang paminaw sa ilahang duha. Apan dihang nahimong pari ang iyang BF, gilainan na man ko kay pari gud siya. Di ba gidili man nila ang pagpakigrelasyon og babaye? Tinuod dalaga ang akoang amiga apan pari gud siya. Maora siyag gikasal na sa Ginouo.
Tan-aw nako komplikado man ang ilang situation kay mabdos ang akoang amiga. Kinsa pa may father nga wa man siyay laing uyab? Wa ra ba makahibawo ang iyang parents nga pari iyang uyab. Di man magsul-ob og senina sa pari kon moduaw sa ilaha.
Unsa may akong buhaton aning ilang sitwasyon? Mahimo ba silang mareklamo ug mabadlong ang pari?

LYSA


Lysa,
Salamat sa imong pagsalig nako. Di ka unta angay maproblema niini kay di man ikaw ang concerned. Tinuod amiga mo but ang iyang kinabuhi is private. Kon nagkaestorya n among duha bahin ini ug naka-decide na siya sa iyang situation, wa na tay mahimo niana.
Respect her decision kay iya man nang kinabuhi. Iyaha man nang choice. Anyway, she is mature enough to decide for herself.
Apan sa akong pagtuo Katoliko ka man, then ang mahimo niini mao ang paghimo og lakang isip believer and a parishioner bisan kon wan a siya mag-alagad sa inyohang parokya. Suwayi pagpakig-estorya ang church officials kay kana sila mohimo gyud og lakang kay kontrobersyal baya na. Lain na sab na nga labad sa ulo nila.
Ihatag nila ang information aron mapahibawo ang direct officials niana niya. By the way, ayaw lang kadismaya og pag-usab sa imong pagtuo. Ang pari is as human as we are.
Mao bitaw intawon mag-request na sila nato nga magpaampo kay they need it. Kusog kaayo ang tentasyon alang kanila. Ako bitaw di man ko matandog og ingon niana kay ako nagtuo nga ang akong kaluwasan wa magsandig nila kay it is between me and God and how I relate sa isig katawo. They provide a venue for our redemption though kay sila mga alagad sa Diyos.
Kon masuko ang imong amiga, take it kay you are doing her a favor. Bahala nag unsay iyang tan-aw basta ang imong gibuhat husto. Wa nimo siya hilabti sa iyang relasyon but since ang iyang karelasyon pari, as parishioner, imong responsibility ang paghimog lakang.

NOY KULAS

Gipatik sa mantalaang SuperBalita Cebu Enero 29, 2011.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 30, 2011, 09:51:18 AM
Pasangil lang ni nga amiga niya kunohay, siya gud ni...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: morning bell on January 30, 2011, 07:27:15 PM
pwede man adto niya ipasaka iyang concern direct jud sa diocese diin nasakup ang parish sa pari...di na kinahanglan magpaila..
tinoud jud, human as they are, prone jud gihapon sa sala. pero ila na ng tulobagon sa ginoo...

bastos, law-ay gyud >:(...
me, myself di dali ma shaken sa ingon ana nga situation. depende na na s a atong faith ug relasyon ngadto Niya..

pray na lang nato na cla oi..
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 31, 2011, 03:35:13 AM
Unya kung moingong ang Ginoo ninyo: "Ingon ba diay ko nga sala na? Kamo man naghimo anang balaora ba... ako may inyong pasanginlan." Bwahahaha  ;D

Iya daw sugyot sa OT (Libro sa Genesis) is: "Go to the world and multiply" man kuno.

So, mao pod ni gisunod sa pikas kampo, i.e., Eastern Orthodox Catholics.

Ang Western (as in Roman Catholics) nagpa unique2x kintahay pod sila by making a law (human precept... meaning, has nothing to do with "faith matters" or "dogma" nga moawat daw sila ni Hesu Kristo nga dili minyo. And so it goes, for the longest time.... ang law of celibacy!!!  ;D

Pero mao lagi na... daghan nisupak or violate the law of celibacy (Simbahan), apan wa mosupak sa balaod sa Ginoo (faith matters).

Mora ni silag criminal... kay nisupak sa balaod sa tawo. Dili ni sala as in nisupak sa balaod sa Ginoo.

Molusot pa gyod no?

But that's the truth of the matter... that is still a big controvery among those in the clerical state.

Mao nga iampo jud nato sila nga way pagkahuman...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 31, 2011, 05:19:11 AM
To: All members of tubag bohol dot com, and persons involved in this matter.


I have a question to all of you who are willing to share their views:

Why do you think women develop relationship with priests? We tend to have a presumption on why priests would engage with women, their celibacy in conjunction with their natural sexuality may cause such pluripotent ramifications. But i would like you all to dig deep in your core precepts , your principles, and to give us an answer why do you think / what psychological mechanism would allow a woman to engage with a man who is supposed to be of the cloth?

Let us talk about this further in detail.  I would also like to do a psychoanalysis / psychodynamic psychoanalysis of the different reasonings.


Thanks.
Lorenz
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 31, 2011, 10:27:07 AM

Ug ato pud nga iamo nga kinsa man kadtong nakasala mahitungod aning butanga, nga makanunayon ang ilang pag-usab og pintal sa ilang atop...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on January 31, 2011, 11:17:48 AM

Mangutana ta ni Father Josua ba to? Hehehehe  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 31, 2011, 11:37:53 AM
Why do you think women develop relationship with priests? We tend to have a presumption on why priests would engage with women, their celibacy in conjunction with their natural sexuality may cause such pluripotent ramifications. But i would like you all to dig deep in your core precepts , your principles, and to give us an answer why do you think / what psychological mechanism would allow a woman to engage with a man who is supposed to be of the cloth? [/i]

Let us talk about this further in detail.  I would also like to do a psychoanalysis / psychodynamic psychoanalysis of the different reasonings.


Thanks.
Lorenz

Malagmit mao ni ang makabugto aning lamboha...  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 31, 2011, 11:41:16 AM
my view why some women engage in sexual relationships with priests might be an example of transference. they see the positive traits of that particular priest , traits that their parents have (a father, or a mother) and in the course of developing a relationship with that priest, transferred that admiration. This has resulted in the transference and libidal exertion usually manifests , something that normally occurs during a psychoanalytic therapeutic relationship between a patient and the psychiatrist. there usually is a intrapsychic tension in the patient's psyche that cannot separate the new entity (the priest) and the old entity (a loving characteristic of an old parent, loved one) which results in a subconscious sexual urge to acquire that entity.

then there is the second theory, which is a distortion of religiosity with sexuality. that in itself is a psychopathology that i will share later on.

i'd like to read further posts. 
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on January 31, 2011, 11:42:35 AM

nong, i'd like to hear the wisdom of  your answer to my simple question.

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: BolBuhol on January 31, 2011, 06:36:09 PM

manogbogto ang garter sang lawlaw na
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on January 31, 2011, 07:18:12 PM

Manugdayag gid ang ginatipigang mangtas sang pari haw.
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: glacier_71 on February 01, 2011, 12:05:19 AM

mabugto jud ni tungod sa kainit aning topika.... ;D ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D aron, nong hubag, tubag...hahhahaha
kadugayan nakong binasa aning TB, nilanggud na jud ka Nong Hubs. hahahahahaha

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: vhinz08 on February 01, 2011, 12:36:14 AM
Duol jud ang tintasyon labi na ug nag alagad ka niya, kini pong mga babaje nganong muadto man jud sila aning mga pari nga sayod naman sila nga engaged na sila sa bokasyong pari, labon daghang lalaki nga nagalayaw layaw lang,  way juy mutagad bisag usa.   :(
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: Lorenzo on February 01, 2011, 12:50:01 AM

to quote the proverbial saying, "the grass is always greener on the other side..."

you bring up a good point, vhinz. my explanation to the psychology behind these relationships between women and catholic priests and the reasons why many women engage in them would be:

1. transference

2. the psychology of desiring what you cannot have (Eve Syndrome, as i would say).


I explained in detail the essential basis of the transference phenomenon in psychiatry, therapy, in the therapeutic relationship between patient and counselor. However, in regards to the Eve Syndrome, well let's look back to The Book of Genesis.

Why did Eve, the first woman, eat the forbidden fruit? Was it because it was bigger than the other apples? Because it looked more ripe than all the others? No. All the apples were equally, and effectively thesame. Eve took a bite of it because God made it known that it was forbidden. The qualities of the serpent (the liar that he is) merely motivated the innate rebelliousness of mankind towards law , and Divine Law. Humans are naturally rebellious. It is with proper dispensation of faith and effectively studying and reading of God's Word can man train his mind and allow his spirit to be trained and guided by the Holy Spirit to know right from wrong and to act accordingly and pleasing to the LORD.

The forbidden fruit; in many instances, priests and celibate men are seen as 'forbidden' fruit(s) to many women.

The great serpent , satan, deceived man kind during its infancy. he continues to deceive man even to this day.

The same force that corrupts women to sexually exploit priests is the same force that deceives many priests to craving the pleasures of the flesh, which, they have effectively denounced during their priestly ordination into the Church. Again, they themselves are craving the 'forbidden fruit'.


Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on February 01, 2011, 02:37:34 PM

Bwahaha! Unsay binasa gud nga wa na man kay duaw-duaw.
Karon, tan-awa, maihap na lang ang nahibilin nga hanggaw!

 ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: glacier_71 on February 01, 2011, 11:48:19 PM


tigbasa pa ko oy, di lang tanana ug di lang kada-adlaw. kabawo na ka, daghan pod tag hinaggwan sa laing dapit. ;D ;D ;D

ok ra man gihapon og dyutay na lay nabiling hanggaw, total, naa pa man ka nga kina-hanggawan. hahahahahahaha

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: statesville on February 02, 2011, 03:09:08 AM
as the old saying goes, "It takes two to  tango"...
  in this case, two consenting adults agreed to flip and fornicate... ::)
 
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: bol-anon quo nyur! on February 02, 2011, 03:41:56 AM
 Pasaylo-a sila! Bisag nakahibaw sila sa ilang gibuhat ;)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: glacier_71 on February 02, 2011, 05:46:24 AM

kinsa ba poy wa pa kahibawo anang buhata. hahahahah. bisan gani ang bu**** nga tigpuyo sa merkado sa among lungsod, makamao pa man mokayat. hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: bol-anon quo nyur! on February 02, 2011, 05:48:40 AM

 Bai Glacier! don't say BED WORD'S :D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: glacier_71 on February 02, 2011, 05:57:01 AM

umph!   :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on February 02, 2011, 08:25:35 AM

Adam was but human--this explains it all. He did not want the apple for the apple's sake, he wanted it only because it was forbidden. The mistake was in not forbidding the serpent; then he would have eaten the serpent. --Mark Twain


 ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on February 02, 2011, 08:28:51 AM

Naa pa bitaw gihapon, tubaytubayan gani nako usahay...  

Bwahaha! ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on February 02, 2011, 08:44:23 AM

Kamao mo lang. Di tuod kahibalo moihap pila na ka kiyod, pero di maglisod pagdumdom asa ituslo ang upaw!  ;D
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: aquarius on February 02, 2011, 09:15:02 AM

Amen..! ;)  ... (sabi nga nila..masarap daw ang bawal.. the most curious thing to do, ika nga..)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on February 02, 2011, 09:44:38 AM

Hmmmm mora man ni sa "grand stand" secret nimo... labon pa eskwelahon, adto jud saka suok2x sa grandstand hehehehe  ;D

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: chicogon on February 02, 2011, 09:52:37 AM

And so the Visayan expression "PORBIDA!!!" (forbidden... or for bedding)  ;D

Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: glacier_71 on February 02, 2011, 09:56:54 AM

hahahahahaha...di naka kahawa kay Staff na baya ka. bwahahahahaha
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: glacier_71 on February 02, 2011, 09:59:08 AM

porbida nganong gipapili...hahahahaha
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on February 02, 2011, 10:07:34 AM

Aw, tikdol-tikdolan lang pud usahay...
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: bol-anon quo nyur! on February 02, 2011, 12:45:07 PM

hahaha, sigui ko kita adto sauna sa nag eskwela pako sa BolHi ;)
Title: Re: relationship with priest
Post by: hubag bohol on February 02, 2011, 05:21:50 PM

He he, mas daghan tingali kag nakat-onan didto, Bay BQN...  ;D
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