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« on: July 31, 2007, 01:10:42 AM »


In recent times, a lot of men even fathers and grandpas went out in the open of being gay whenever out of sight from their families; to the point of superficiality in the facade of their homes?  Hence getting married just to prove heterosexuality has no bearing at all.

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 01:12:53 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 10:00:16 AM »
yes,kay mugawas gyud kung unsa ka.. ;)

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 02:05:07 PM »
it's true. man's history is not written on the rock....  daghan oy nga minyo pero discreet. lots of them i know....

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2007, 02:40:29 AM »


Would your agreements entail that it is fine for a married man to maintain a gay relationship as long as he always stay as good provider to his family?

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2007, 10:47:03 AM »

Would your agreements entail that it is fine for a married man to maintain a gay relationship as long as he always stay as good provider to his family?
Dili gyod ko mo agree aning dapita sorry nalang ,kung bana nako ingon ana (pero dili baya ha?) buwag nalang bahalag buwag wala sa akong vocabulary.


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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2007, 10:53:50 AM »
pero kung open-minded ka ok ra baya as long as he is a good provider. ;)

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2007, 07:15:46 PM »


kalisud ba ana buenavista.... pero daghan baya ko nahibaloan nga ang mga wives would prefer to have their husbands having affair with the 3rd sex (kanang dili vulgar type) kay sa mangabit ilang bana ug mga babae.  Ang ilang reason wala dawng competition, kasi kung babae mailog man ila bana pero kung sa gay maintain kuno makatabang pa????

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2007, 07:42:24 PM »
pero kung open-minded ka ok ra baya as long as he is a good provider. ;)

gen! diko palabot ana oi...lisud kung gay atong katalo..huh?! meaning to say nga mas gwapa pa ang toyab kay sa nato? hahaha syodi gyud ko palabot! ;D

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2007, 07:49:59 PM »


unsa diay ipasabot sa pagka gwapa dili lang baya physical and benchmarking or measurement ana., the total packaging baya.... labina kung makuha ang weakness sa imo bana and at the same time dunay mga shortcomings ang asawa, like isa siyang nagger, dili makahibalo moluto, hugawan o burara pa, pero ang kalaban, career woman sa araw, plain housewife sa gabi at burlesk dancer sa madaling araw.... hahahahaha

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2007, 07:54:46 PM »
hahaha! ang ka gwapa sa bol-anon kuya package na...dili lang sa physical nga anyo. dili man pud career woman ang ka kompetensya kay TOYAB man...syodi gihapon. :D

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2007, 08:42:32 PM »
opinion raman to,di sad nato sila i-descriminate kay luoy pod baya sila...pero sa ako toyab kung pwde lang ayaw lang intawon :'(

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2007, 08:44:37 PM »
opinion raman to,di sad nato sila i-descriminate kay luoy pod baya sila...pero sa ako toyab kung pwde lang ayaw lang intawon :'(

wala man ta mag descriminate Gen. In fact, PRO-GAY man ko..:)



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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 01:25:16 AM »


Sorry, ang gi-mean nako nga career woman sa araw yong mga gay na nakatago sa dilim nga dunay mga maayo nga careers or work, and after work parang plain housewife who knows how to handle their men  ( foods, socials, entertainment ) at kung medyo kadlawon na sobra ang knowledge sa kama sutra? hehehehe

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2007, 08:15:23 AM »
wala man ta mag descriminate Gen. In fact, PRO-GAY man ko..:)


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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2007, 02:25:20 PM »

what I would like to convey, this type of men could not be discriminated or belittled.  Like every one of us, may plus at minus points; nobody's perfect, ang uban lang preferred to be paliwara but am sure they have reasons for that which put an ironic facade in their personalities.

At any point, wa tay karapatan nga mo judge ug tawo.  The best thing for us is to value the very core of his being a person regardless of whoever he/she is.  Ang importante ay unsa ang inyong "samahan" or unsa kalaum ang inyong panagkaila sa pagdawat sa iyang tinood nga pagkatawo.


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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2007, 04:39:00 AM »


pero ang sulti sa uban, trend naman kuno karon ang pwede both sexes? kung pool na sa usa, sa lain na pod... mao ba kini ang trend?

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2007, 05:06:44 AM »

pero ang sulti sa uban, trend naman kuno karon ang pwede both sexes? kung pool na sa usa, sa lain na pod... mao ba kini ang trend?

mao na'y giingon nga pa-uyon lang ug asa ganahan or unsa ang feel.

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2007, 05:13:06 AM »

pero ang sulti sa uban, trend naman kuno karon ang pwede both sexes? kung pool na sa usa, sa lain na pod... mao ba kini ang trend?
murag dili na sad na maayo! pero kun saan sila masaya, as long as dili ka affected sa ilang mga guinabuhat, aw walang pakialaman nalang! heheheheheeh!

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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2007, 02:11:42 AM »


bitaw nganong manghilabot man ta kon wala ta hilabti, kong pananglit nga makaangay kintahay sila nato, pasabton o sultihan na lang sa maayo, kay kon mosulti sila, they have the right to express what they have basta sa maayong paraan.

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2007, 04:19:10 AM »


what's happening sa mga wala kasabot sa kaugalingon? wag nalang dibdibin....

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2007, 02:28:59 PM »
There are a lot of married men who are closeted gays.

Naa bitaw ko'y kaila dire. They dated for many years, and even then, wala jud sila nag sex because the girl wanted their first intimate act to happen on their honeymoon. She thought she had found her true love. We all thought they were made for each other.

They were divorced in six months. The reason? The husband told her he was gay, he met someone else and was in love.

Naluoy jud ko sa babae.

Kamong mga gays, better to come out of the closet than pretend to be straight, go through the whole motion of getting married, having a family, and all that. Unfair kaayo sa babae. In fact, unfair sa duha. To the gay guy, unfair kay dili man sya completely happy coz he's not being true to himself. To the girl, it's doubly unfair, kay you are preventing her from finding her true love, a straight guy who will really, truly love her.

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2008, 12:52:53 PM »
In recent times, a lot of men even fathers and grandpas went out in the open of being gay whenever out of sight from their families; to the point of superficiality in the facade of their homes?  Hence getting married just to prove heterosexuality has no bearing at all.

this is very true... and poignantly very ubiquitous... and it bothers me how these gay men could be so apathetic of the feelings of their female partners... if they're bisexual, though, they could just be steering themselves in the path to straightness but complete loyalty is quite unlikely...

di ba it's been said:  "bi now, gay later"...
how will the scenario be justified?  the domestic coexistence of a bisexual man and a "clueless" and/or "desperate" female would be totally trash IF THE FLOWER FULLY BLOOMS... and in most cases, it eventually does... at a certain point... no matter how good the sex may be...

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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2008, 01:03:49 PM »
this is very true... and poignantly very ubiquitous... and it bothers me how these gay men could be so apathetic of the feelings of their female partners... if they're bisexual, though, they could just be steering themselves in the path to straightness but complete loyalty is quite unlikely...

di ba it's been said:  "bi now, gay later"...
how will the scenario be justified?  the domestic coexistence of a bisexual man and a "clueless" and/or "desperate" female would be totally trash IF THE FLOWER FULLY BLOOMS... and in most cases, it eventually does... at a certain point... no matter how good the sex may be...
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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2008, 01:10:47 PM »
it's a choice...i've handled cases before of hubbies who are gay, bi and other turned into trans. a lot of gay men before were discreet, I called them potato queen..and to cover it they got married.

Generally speaking, human sexuality is how people experience and express themselves as sexual beings. The study of human sexuality encompasses an array of social activities and an abundance of behaviors, series of actions, and societal topics. Biologically, sexuality can encompass sexual intercourse and sexual contact in all its forms, as well as medical concerns about the physiological or even psychological aspects of sexual behaviour. Sociologically, it can cover the cultural, political, and legal aspects; and philosophically, it can span the moral, ethical, theological, spiritual or religious aspects.

there's a 53 year-old married man (from manila and i met him thru internet) who asked for my advices. murag late na siya noh? he has 5 children and married, 10 apos... and it was last year that he found out he's attracted to men. OMG! i jsut old not to get caught. but having sex with another man  (MSM), he's cheating. he's not yet ready to tell his wife whom  sher married for 45 years!

in bohol, there're a lot of married men who are gays and bisexuals! i know some!!!

there're happy cases, too like:
when i was in college, my gay classmate had lots of sexual encounters with men...and he got married to a neighbor in Dauis. his wife knows that he's gay...pero nagminyo jud sila. pastilan perting hilak sa ginikanan sa baye kay my gay classmate is notorious s aiyang pagkagay... unya ikagabii kay mamayot siya, moingon lang iyang wife nga pagbantay! see until karun, nag-ipon pa sila happy and contented.

then, another client i handled was a principal in a school in calape. he has 2 kids and a loving wife. iyang wife sauna was his student in high school. pero ok ra man sila. the principal continues sa iyang sexcapade with men... and the wife knows. wala man pud niya kalimti iyang family.

depende na pud na sa wife..pero sagaran karun kay liberated naman ang mga baye. pero ang loyalty and fedility jud ang kinhanglan.

for the gay/bi men who're married when motokar ang lust then you don't want to seek for a man to justify the urge, you can ask your wife to do the thing for you. like ask your wife for a mutual masturbation, oral ses, etc... there're many ways you can ask your wife to satisfy your desire. after baya maguwaan, mawala na ang urge.

unya karun, nagkaanam na kadaghan ang gays/bisexuals/trans maskin dili manganak! the GLBT network in Bohol is increasing! other pretend themselves nga metrosexual (kanang nasobraan magpaguwapo sa salon, etc..) so, girls make it sure you know your man!!!

 

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2008, 01:45:48 PM »
ang ako was that if it's just a scheme of concealment... like in some of my friends' cases...

but of course, naa man ju'y magmalamposon ani'ng ing-ani nga relationships despite all the "panamas-tamas" of our heavily parochial society... and I salute them all...

that fact that there's mutual and affectionate love is the core of all the things that matter in a relationship... if this is genuinely present, then there's no reason for any doubt... be one or both parties members of the LGBT community, basta kay LOVE ang foundation sa relasyon, then they will still flourish like the vast lavender meadows of Essex county... even more beautiful with the rainbow on top... o, di ba?

all of this is regardless of whatever brouhaha the parties may have been through in the past, present, or yet to come (because everyone has the proclivity to have shortcomings once in a while no matter how emotionally mature)...

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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2008, 01:51:19 PM »
this is very true... and poignantly very ubiquitous... and it bothers me how these gay men could be so apathetic of the feelings of their female partners... if they're bisexual, though, they could just be steering themselves in the path to straightness but complete loyalty is quite unlikely...

di ba it's been said:  "bi now, gay later"...
how will the scenario be justified?  the domestic coexistence of a bisexual man and a "clueless" and/or "desperate" female would be totally trash IF THE FLOWER FULLY BLOOMS... and in most cases, it eventually does... at a certain point... no matter how good the sex may be...

do you know the group XX's? group ni siya sa US nga mga gay ,men nahimong straight.

daghang bisexual nga successfully married.

there're men to men pud nga nag-ipon. sa bohol, there're 5 pairs i know. then 2 ka baye baye nga nag-ipon pud. they're happy.  both partners are committed to each other. sakto pud sila sa edad, emotionally stable.. mao walay problema.

but i've lots of friends nga gay nga naay uyab na sila nga gay/bi pero  they're not loyal to each other... if asa ang usa mulakaw naa pud lain macheck. wala pa maestablish ang ilang loyalty and commitment to each other.

many psychologists said nga same sex relationship is frustrating.

"the bi now, gay later" is true... but the truth is  if you're gay, you're gay forever. but if you're bi, there's a chance to become straight or bi.

we can;t judge a person because the way he/she behaves, the way he/she talks, the way he/she carries him/herself in public... wala man gud ta kahibaw what deep in his/her heart! mao we can't generalize things or events because we have the will.

psychologically speaking, it's a choice jud kung kinsa imong partner. wala man gud masuwat sa bato ang kinabuhi sa tawo. daghan kaayo possibilities in this world.



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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2008, 05:14:06 PM »

Would your agreements entail that it is fine for a married man to maintain a gay relationship as long as he always stay as good provider to his family?

I BEG TO DISAGREE. IT IS CHEATING YOUR WIFE AND FAMILY. WHY NOT DIVORCE YOUR WIFE AND STAY WITH THE MAN? WHY STAY WITH THAT PERSON IF YOU'RE UNHAPPY.

AS I AM READING THIS THREAD, EL MUNDO IS A PSYCHOLOGIST. AREN'T YOU? YOU'VE THE EXPERIENCE IN COUNSELING. IF YOU'RE IN THE US, AMERICANS WILL PAY YOU MORE BECAUSE OF YOUR SKILLS.

BONBONQUEST SEEMS INTERESTED IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP. YOUR AVATAR SUGGESTS YOU'VE A MAN TO MAN RELATIONSHIP. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH HIM? SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE YOUNG IS A BIG FRUSTRATION. BELIEVE ME, A LOT HERE IN THE US HAVE BROKEN MEN TO MEN RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOYAL. ARE YOU GAU OR BI?



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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2008, 06:26:52 PM »
BONBONQUEST SEEMS INTERESTED IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP. YOUR AVATAR SUGGESTS YOU'VE A MAN TO MAN RELATIONSHIP. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH HIM? SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE YOUNG IS A BIG FRUSTRATION. BELIEVE ME, A LOT HERE IN THE US HAVE BROKEN MEN TO MEN RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOYAL. ARE YOU GAY OR BI?

wowboholphilippines... yes, I am engaged in a homosexual relationship with that man with me in my avatar.  But let me tell you this:  Rant all you want about your tetragon perception of conventional gender roles and make all the brouhaha you want of your frustrations about relationships like mine.  But what right do you have to shell your prosaic preconceptions about what may happen in the future of what I CHOSE to get myself into?  Who are you to impose on me to "believe you"?  Who do you think you are?  Dr. Phil?  Sigmund Freud?  The God Almighty?  Hand me your diploma for a doctorate degree in psychology and I'll "believe" you.

If many relationships of my kind in the US crumble owing to a party's disloyalty, leave them be!  That's their life.  It happened to them.  If it happens, it happens.  Do not attempt to stereotype us just because you think you know the bearings of the LGBT community.  Well, guess what!  You don't!  You don't have a single clue what goes on in my life, in Ted's life, or in anyone else's life for that matter.  Your lopsided view says it all so do not attempt to overturn what I just said.

Yes, I'm happy with him and you have no say, whatsoever, with whatever goes on in our lives as separate individuals or as a couple!  I'm not going to answer your last question because I don't feel the need to.  Don't get me wrong.  I know what I am.  And YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT!  Bug off my personal life and try getting one for yourself.

And just a simple guideline for you:  Here at TB, comment on the posted threads and retort with personal opinions vis-à-vis what's there.  Do not interfere with the personal lives of others--much less make a "godly" attempt to annihilate anybody with your archaic mindset.

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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2008, 06:53:43 PM »
kun saan kayo masaya, then go on...

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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2008, 09:48:12 PM »
We must think that everyone of us are created equal and have same right..so why not accept the fact that homosexual exist? As long as  wala sila naghatag og dautan nga impluwensya sa atong katilingban so nganu mang dile man nato sila dawaton? Its just easy to say some bad reactions if you are not really engage on a particular situation, pero kung kamo pa sad ay naingon sa uban i know lisod ninyu usab nga dawaton ang biay2x sa kadaghanan..Tawo sad sila nga adunay kasing2x nga masakitan, so we must learn to accept them as part of our society..

So og ako sad ay makabana og homosexual, dawaton sad nako oi, kinahanglan ako irespeto sad ang iyang kaugalingong kalipay, unsaon taman og nigawas ang lain na sad niyang color :) dile ta kapugos unya pananglitan og naa namiy anak kinahanglan jud magkasinabot..Aw magsinabtanay lang ang problema og karibal mi kay murag dile na tingale madala og sinabtanay :D

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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2008, 10:27:42 PM »
Marriage is a contract between two people regardless of their religious persuasions. If it helps them to make the contract before God, then that is good, but it's essentially a solemn promise between two people to give each other support and security for the rest of their lives. I don't see that it matters whether one is straight or gay.


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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2008, 10:39:41 PM »
I have a very close gay friend in LA, nga minjo sija sa Pinas, but he is very gay pero sa Pinas at that time wala man gi recognze ang gay so nag minjo sija. Sa ijang giingon naho nga it was more than a PENETINSYA or even more than nag bitbit ug dako nga cross, to sleep with the woman, pero naka anak jud sila twin pa jud! Now he moved in LA and supporting his children and still a good friend to his wife. Pweret man jud shang bajuta di matabang.

I am a gay advocate and i always got a fight  of defending them before. I always participated in debates wherever i was, in school, church and everywhere and always on the PRO side.

Ang gay is always a gay kay hormonal imbalance man na sa brain, and there is no cure for that.

I can have a gay husband if i have to ( husband does not always mean to have sex with) but it happen that my very best gay friend was not a US citizen at that time,and i was not too, so mahulog mi nga kulorom adto nga time, mag minjo jud unta mi kay we really get along. We were like a hot gay couple amongst my peers in LA. Syang i have to leave him because i got married to a real man.

PS, thanks for opening this thread Jun, i like it...

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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2008, 10:53:33 PM »
El Mundo, i can tolerate GAYS but I CAN'T tolerate BIsexuals!

That i would say NOOOOOPE!

For me ang BI's murag hakog na jud kaajo ug sex, wa nay gipili.

Sorry guys :-\

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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2008, 11:01:15 PM »
50-50 ko ani. lisod ni nga subject. lisod mahimo kang b***t. dili na nimo kagustohan. its in the genes. its hard to be gay. you are a woman trapped inside a mans body. im not against gays. pero sobra na pod nang mag pa kasal. sopak sa bible.marriage was meant for a man and a woman.

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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2008, 11:02:10 PM »
Dili gyod ko mo agree aning dapita sorry nalang ,kung bana nako ingon ana (pero dili baya ha?) buwag nalang bahalag buwag wala sa akong vocabulary.


What if you love him?Maka shu-ang baya ang gugma.

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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2008, 11:02:56 PM »
50-50 ko ani. lisod ni nga subject. lisod mahimo kang b***t. dili na nimo kagustohan. its in the genes. its hard to be gay. you are a woman trapped inside a mans body. im not against gays. pero sobra na pod nang mag pa kasal. sopak sa bible.marriage was meant for a man and a woman.

What if I'm a gay?

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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2008, 11:03:15 PM »
What if you love him?Maka shu-ang baya ang gugma.

i hilak na lang sa tago

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Re: MARRIAGE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A MAN TO BE STRAIGHT
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2008, 11:04:01 PM »
What if I'm a gay?
you mean lesbian

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