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Nograles wants franchise of Sulpicio Lines cancelled
06/23/2008 | 04:35 PM


MANILA, Philippines - House Speaker Prospero Nograles Jr on Monday called for the cancellation of the franchise of Sulpicio Lines following the tragedy that struck another one of its sea vessels over the weekend.

“This sea tragedy should not have happened if proper precautions and rules were followed. It’s time to cancel franchises or permits and throw the book at those responsible,” Nograles said in a statement.

The House speaker issued the statement as rescuers from the Philippine Coast Guard continue to look for the 700 passengers of the ill-fated MV Princess of Stars, which capsized off the coast of Romblon over the weekend.

Nograles noted that this is the fourth sea tragedy involving Sulpicio-owned vessels, of which the worst was the M/V Doña Paz tragedy in December 1987 where 4,000 passengers were killed.

“It's really unthinkable that after all these years we have not learned a lesson from the Doña Paz tragedy. Strike three, even in baseball or softball, means you are out. Three or more sea disasters on the same shipping company are no longer a coincidence,” he said.

“Why is Sulpicio, which has the worst sea safety record in the Philippines is still being allowed to operate?” he added.

He said the franchises and licenses of shipping companies like Sulpicio, which he considered as “recidivists in terms of sea disaster records,” should be revoked.

He also called on shipping authorities to “sack public officials whose negligence” resulted in the tragedy.

“Heads should roll if government regulators are found incompetent and negligent of their sworn duties to the public,” he said. - GMANews.TV

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Once again im going to paste my comment here from the other thread.

If im nnot mistaken this thyphoon was announced before it came right?

Nganong gipa larga man ang ship sa Port Authority nga kabalo naman sila nga naay thyphoon?

This sounded a SCAM from the Shipping lines itself, isnt it?

kay naa man silay makuha nga dako nga insurance money out of this?

Where in the world could you find this kind of disaster?

only in the Philippines  :o

And you know what? most ot the shipping lines who are down by typhoons are the older shipping lines...(they are old anyhow)

They dont follow standard procedures anymore...or i think ever since...
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Bella, this is according to Barbaro, ang atong tig timon sa barko sa Persian Gulf.

Ang Coast Guard mo Go signal to sail gyod na kay naa mana computation between the Vessel & the typhoon ang barko may makapasidad moatubang sa baguio according to size,capacity & speed. duha ka rason nganong nagkaroon ng problema engine failure or human error of the captain. taga bohol ang captain taga catagbacan daw im not sure. Capt. Marimon.[/color]

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Thanks for that info Barbs!

Barbs ang sulpicio nga mga barko pwerteng karaana na and i think they cant even run up to 3 knots already (inday2x ang dagan ug sila pa) so ma ambtan jud bisan talithi pa nga hinay! Kana pa nga bagyo na! and it was announced sa TV, gipakita pa man gani na! ila pa jud gi ignore! Very stupid!

sus Ginoo!

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Quote from: Barbaro on June 22, 2008, 10:13:18 PM
Ang Coast Guard mo Go signal to sail gyod na kay naa mana computation between the Vessel & the typhoon ang barko may makapasidad moatubang sa baguio according to size,capacity & speed. duha ka rason nganong nagkaroon ng problema engine failure or human error of the captain. taga bohol ang captain taga catagbacan daw im not sure. Capt. Marimon.


Lex, could it also be a Coast Guard error?  I still think that the Coast Goard shouldn't have had authorized the sailing of the ship kay kabalo naman naay imminent danger.  Well, same pod sa Captain.  Hay, asa naman tawon sila karon?
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Wala diay agency sa government that regularly checks the sea-worthiness of ships?

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Since we are an archipelago and the ship our principal mode of transport, we should invest in the modernization of our sailing vessels as well as weather forcasting equipment.

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unsaon te.

kay ug dili pud palargahon. magyawyaw ang mga pasahero mismo! what da!

like tha cancelled flights of PAL and cEBU PACIFIC all they got from passengers were complains!

as to. nag gasto na cla sa ticket. sa hotel reservations. blah blah blah

come on you people!
heeey? what's the point of this?


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I've been through a similar situation in the past when bad weather forced the cancellation of a craft. Sakto jud ang sulti ni Kiams, ang barko or airline company damned if you do, damned if you don't. Girahon sa mga pasahero ang ticketing office ug ma-postpone o ma-cancel. Ug naay mahitabo inigkahuman, girahon pud sa mga pamilya ang kompanya.

The final decision to allow a ship or plane to leave should rest with the government-designated agency (Coast Guard or DOTC) so as to settle all arguments once and for all. But now the Coast Guard is passing the buck.

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hmm..looks like. sulpicio was just doing his usual business. gi tugtan man, so he trusted coast guard that the ship can really surpass the weather. cause if it was by his own decision, he'll end up refunding all the money , re scheduling and hearing all the useless rants of the passengers. and it is too obvious that he can't do that load. at least, if it was coast guard, the passengers can't complain.. 

and here goes the government and all.. action comes after tragedy .. sob :( then again. don't we all do?


another ear steaming news: the passengers at manila terminal got stranded. what they did? they ranted! porket 4 days nadaw cla stuck! walang pagkain. wala silang magawa? what?!?! are they for real?!!?  hala uy taga-an mo sa inyu pliti! pagsugod mo lakaw didto inyu!

ka klaru sa bagyo.. argh! people!!

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Tinuod jud ka Kiams!

Do you want me to call the sulpicio owner nga naa na silay y prospect customer service agent?

ikaw akong i recommend! hahahhahah

i like it Kiams!

Same crabs and parasites!

haay fefol!

BTW, pilay gibajad sa sulpicio nimo Kiams??? bwahahhah jawk only my dear!

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hehe btaw te.in fairness man pud.. it's clearly a fortuitous event.

coastguard permitted the ship cause it is really big weighing around 23,824 tons and able to accommodate around 1,992 people.   and typhoon at that time was signal #1. it was thought to pass at samar, pataas, but , mi kalit ug kusog ang bagyo. and it directed to iloilo. romblon places.  murag gisugat sa sulpicio ang bagyo

i think the captain tried to hide the boat, that's why it's already near the islands but sa tanang kamalas, electricity turned off, wala na nila ma direct ang lansta (or kana ila wheel).. misangyad na ang barko..


there were supposedly enough lifeboats, but the wind and waves blew them away..

even the best swimmer would have a difficulty beating a #3 wind and wave power :(


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wala jud silay pakabana Kiams bisan unsaon!

mao na shay giingon nga nagpakabuta bunogl sila sa Balita!

Well, human naman na! another lesson must be learn but i dont know ug ma learn ba...

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life is a constant lesson ..no one will learn. mura ranag gawas sud sa dunggan.. :(

ugh!

i myself is guilty. on saturday we had our company outing.. sa beach! of course water sports were cancelled.. pero padajun ang kaon and on-shore act..we really saw big waves te.. i sweaR those kind of waves, no one will beat that except if dili pa nimo oras..kana!     
imagine if dihay lawas na wash ashore. twas possible.. ugh! sad ko kay  while we were having fun .. wa tawn mi ka malaymalay nga sa end part sa dagat,, tu-a nay naghikahos nga life :_(

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a comparison
before and after =

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I just love you, Bem, more than ever!

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mao nay giingon nga Circle of Life, Kiams!

and i dont want to say nga i was lucky kay i was not on that boat, and God spared me...

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Even the US NAVY METOC and JTWC made 3 revisions to their forecast--
that on Friday morning, it was clear in their forecast that the typhoon will NOT pass the Philippines.
the first change they made was Friday evening, when the plotted course included Leyte, Samar and Sorsogon but still plotted the typhoon to head north afterwards,
3rd change, Saturday afternoon, they changed the plot again, this time making the typhoon's path cross into central Visayas...

so even the best and most modern weather forecast equipment can never tell..

kato pud sa Inconvenient Truth. It shouldve served as a reference

hurricane Katrina was just a type 1 pero it swerved unpredictably sa Gulf of Mexico mihalo sa hot moist air, and it became a hurricane type 5  that hit New Orleans

moral lesson : no equipment can ever forecast a weather accurately pero yes kuya bene. at least it will give us earlier warnings :)


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ang story nimo Kiams murag nag tan aw ko sa Titanic na movie,bilib kaayo ko sa mga reports nimo,scary

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Since the Philippines is a typhoon path, we have ample opportunity to improve our learning curve. Kay ang dan sa bagyo di man jud na straight-line or one-way--posibleng mubiyo, mudiretso, mutakilid, mulapad, etc. The calculation of weather and of risk to life is always a probability. Even without the most advanced equipment, I think the vessel's risk of meeting the north-bound typhoon head-on was just too preponderant for them to play with chances. But then again, the calculation of profit on the part of Sulpicio must also have weighed in.



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