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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2007, 03:46:28 AM »
^ Bingo--I was thinking of the same thing.

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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2007, 09:10:16 AM »
I wonder why Brunei is not listed on the above. Also the Middle East is also part of Asia (Saudi, Kuwait, Dubai...etc.). There must be something wrong with this survey.

bitaw ngano wala man maapil ang Brunei na usa sad ni sa pinaka datu na country.
 population= sa Brunei mas daghan pang foreigner kaysa sa local,then naa sila'y program ron na mas tagaan nila priorities ang mga local na makatrabaho.
 Crime=wala kaau krimen diri,peaceful.dili ka mahadlok na maglakaw-lakaw kay wala man k******n or isnatser.
hunger=naa man siguro pero dili kaau bulgar,kay once a year makapakaon man si Sultan sa tibuok Brunei with gifts pa ug human kaon.(HARI-RAYA),apil pod foreigner.

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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2007, 09:16:28 AM »
Datu man gyud ang Brunie, sosi pod ang ilang mga babaye diha no???dili baduyin..
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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2007, 09:26:02 AM »
medyo,kay permi man nakatalukbong..classy pod :-*

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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2007, 08:37:42 PM »
Gervistil...... what we need is not patience but WONDER  maybe!

I agree what El Mundo observed... we are and i think remain the same unless until what Gervistil commented/written

what we need is Economic Development progress.... how we will solve this?  In fact, the  cram-full pockets of the leaders while our

country is agonizing poverty extremely uncontrollable.

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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2007, 10:20:50 PM »

Population is directly dependent on a nation's human developmental index; the two are inversely related. The less industrialized a nation is (industrializing,modernizing): the population of that particular state will be high to provide man power to fuel the engines of that economy (service oriented, argrarian oriented, manufactural oriented etc). And the more industrialized/ modernized a nation state is (higher human developmental index) then their population growth rate will diminish {one can see this in western Europe, North America, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia etc). For agrarian based economies, particularly the Philippines (with about 50% of the economy still agrarian based), there still will be a natural and economic titilation for the families that operate large farm estates (pinapple, banana, hemp, rice, mangoes, etc) to have large child base in order to operate these haciendas. This importance is mandated if the Philippines and other agrarian-based economies are to survive and bring in capital to the country.

However, if you look at the Philippine's economic standing--our service sectors are rising as well as our manufacturing sectors--the service sector is rising incredibly with government's initiative in focusing on IT/Software agencies throughout the country as well as growing banking/financial systems in the country. Once the country progresses enough to change the human developmental index and becomes a service-oriented economy (note that most western countries are service based and poor third world nations are agrarian based), we will eventually lighten the load on the needs of the agrarian market. Once the Philippines summits industrialization and the gdp is at $800 Billion USD or at a stable target reach where the gdp per capita in the Philippines is at $15,000 USD instead of the current $5,000 USD, then we would have reached a first world stage in terms of human developmental index. At this stage, we assume that government's budget in providing infrastructure has increased substantially and the presence of pentions, reliable and stable life insurance, homogenous school tuition loans, sufficient public health agencies, superfluent amount of hospital systems capable of treating and caring for most of the population within the 81 provinces of the country--as well as presence of specialist care givers to provide and ascertain the life expectancy of the average Filipino in the Philippines is above or at average standards (or comparable to westernized states).

Once these markers are achieved--then the high populatory life expectancy and standard of living would negate the need to have more than 4-5 children and would thereby substantially inhibit the need to have xxxx children; as a result, population will decrease to levels prevalent within western Europe, North America, which is at 1.0% or less.

Its purely a manifestation of the concept of supply and demand; which correlates with the Malthusian concept.

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How to achieve the said goals???

The maintenance of current economic growth (which is at an amazing 7.5%), securing job markets for Filipino technocrats graduating every year within our respectable institutions of higher learning: which can be implemented if government soothes foreign markets and investors and invites more foreign investment on our natural resources, which would provide jobs to the thousands upon thousands of engineers and construction workers here in the Philippines.
The sustainability of the economy also depends on the skills of our workers--which also places supreme importance on the education system in the country---the building of more schools and increasing budgets to all the public schools and universities must be mandated.

Nation building is a progressional and long-term task: from looking at the indicators of growth, however, the Philippines looks like it is in the verge of an economic boom. It is about time, in my opinion.

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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2007, 10:37:46 PM »
Mga kababayan,
this is quite an embarassing insight, i cant help but cry after reading this....


Subject: A Korean Student's Essay on the Philippines


My Short Essay about the Philippines
Jaeyoun Kim
September 2003

Filipinos always complain about the corruption in the Philippines. Do you really think the corruption is the problem of the Philippines? I do not think so. I strongly believe that the problem is the lack of love for the Philippines.

Let me first talk about my country, Korea. It might help you understand my point. After the Korean War, South Korea was one of the poorest
countries in the world. Koreans had to start from scratch because entire country was destroyed completely after the Korean War, and we had no
natural resources.

Koreans used to talk about the Philippines, for Filipinos were very rich in Asia. We envy Filipinos. Koreans really wanted to be well off like Filipinos. Many Koreans died of famine. My father's brother also died because of famine.

Korean government was awfully corrupt and is still very corrupt beyond your imagination, but Korea was able to develop dramatically because
Koreans really did their best for the common good with their heart burning with patriotism. Koreans did not work just for themselves but also for their neighborhood and country. Education inspired young men with the spirit of patriotism.

40 years ago, President Park took over the government to reform Korea. He tried to borrow money from other countries, but it was not possible to get a loan and attract a foreign investment because the economy situation of South Korea was so bad. Korea had only three factories. So, President Park sent many mine workers and nurses to Germany so that they could send money to Korea to build a factory. They had to go through a horrible experience. In 1964, President Park visited Germany to borrow money. Hundred of Koreans in Germany came to the airport to welcome him and cried there as they saw the President Park. They asked to him, "President, when can we be well off?" That was the only question everyone asked to him. President Park cried with them and promised them that Korea would be well off if everyone works hard for Korea, and the President of Germany got the strong impression on them and lent money to Korea. So, President Park was able to build many factories in Korea.

He always asked Koreans to love their country from their heart. Many Korean scientists and engineers in the USA came back to Korea to help
developing country because they wanted their country to be well off.

Though they received very small salary, they did their best for Korea. They always hoped that their children would live in well off country.

My parents always brought me to the places where poor and physically handicapped people live. They wanted me to understand their life and help them. I also worked for Catholic Church when I was in the army. The only thing I learned from Catholic Church was that we have to love our neighborhood. And I have loved my neighborhood.

Have you cried for the Philippines? I have cried for my country several times. I also cried for the Philippines because of so many poor people.
I have been to the New Bilibid prison. What made me sad in the prison were the prisoners who do not have any love for their country. They go
to mass and work for Church. They pray everyday. However, they do not love the Philippines. I talked to two prisoners at the maximum security
compound, and both of them said that they would leave the Philippines right after they are released from the prison. They said that they would start a new life in other countries and never come back to the Philippines.

Many Koreans have a great love for Korea so that we were able to share our wealth with our neighborhood. The owners of factory and company were distributed their profit to their employees fairly so that employees could buy what they needed and saved money for the future and their
children.

When I was in Korea, I had a very strong faith and wanted to be a priest. However, when I came to the Philippines, I completely lost my
faith. I was very confused when I saw many unbelievable situations in the Philippines. Street kids always make me sad, and I see them
everyday. The Philippines is the only Catholic country in Asia, but there are too many poor people here. People go to church every Sunday to
pray, but nothing has been changed. My parents came to the Philippines last week and saw this situation. They told me that Korea was much
poorer than the present Philippines when they were young. They are so sorry that there so many beggars and street kids. When we went to
Pasangjan, I forced my parents to take a boat because it would fun. However, they were not happy after taking a boat. They said that they
would not take the boat again because they were sympathized the boat men, for the boat men were very poor and had a small frame. Most of people just took a boat and enjoyed it. But my parents did not enjoy it because of love for them.

My mother who has been working for Catholic Church since I was very young told me that if we just go to mass without changing ourselves, we
are not Catholic indeed. Faith should come with action. She added that I have to love Filipinos and do good things for them because all of us are
same and have received a great love from God.

I want Filipinos love their neighborhood and country as much as they love God so that the Philippines will be well off. I am sure that love
is the keyword which Filipinos should remember. We cannot change the sinful structure at once. It should start from person. Love must start
in everybody in a small scale and have to grow. A lot of things happen if we open up to love. Let's put away our prejudices and look at our worries with our new eyes. I discover that every person is worthy to be loved. Trust in love, because it makes changes possible. Love changes you and me. It changes people, contexts and relationships. It changes the world.

Please love your neighborhood and country. Jesus Christ said that whatever we do to others we do to Him. In the Philippines, there is God
who are abused and abandoned. There is God who is crying for love. If you have a child, teach them how to love the Philippines. Teach them why they have to love their neighborhood and country.

You already know that God also will be very happy if you love others. That's all I really want to ask you Filipinos.

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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2007, 10:43:16 PM »
tnxs Gervistil..... now we could start discussing why and how we come to the above related subject.

Let the intellectuals introduce their opinions and some important proposals for this theme.

I reiterate,   "ARE WE NOT AN EGOISTIC FOLKS?"

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« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2007, 11:02:43 PM »
Wow..were we really 2nd richest in Asia? ...

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« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2007, 11:08:33 PM »

@ onicul
old newspaper check the date, may be 1950's.

Yes we are, after WWII we are next to Japan.

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« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2007, 11:09:12 PM »
Of what Pare?  Kids productivity?

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« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2007, 11:10:53 PM »


Unsaon dili ma datu nga daghan  kaayu tag kahoy sa una??? asa naman na ron nga wa may nag replanting, it made me mad... ako diri sigi tanom ug kahoy pero dili pod ni pulipinas, :-[  :-[  :-[

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« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2007, 01:14:31 PM »
I have read some articles in the internet about the 7.5% growth ug ang comment pa gyud is that it is a big big lie pobre pa gihapon ang mga tao. I hope they were taught good economics in HS, we need not only a 7.5 in a quarter!!!!!! we need a continuous growth to see things work and in order to do that they need to shut up and work for it!!!!!!!!
Let us not be another burden.
According to economists, we need at least 7 percent for at least seven years or so to reduce poverty.
Let us start TODAY please we need it TODAY and hope for a better tomorrow and not put everything in contention.

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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2007, 08:36:10 PM »
7? that's not much, i think we can make it...

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« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2007, 09:06:10 PM »
yeah... not that much if we people start to work today. ;D not just us here in TB...
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« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2007, 09:24:10 PM »
Naunsa naman ang tree planting sa ato? when i was in my Elementary days nag tree planting man to kang Marcos nga project... See Marcos really had some foresight no?  bisan nakasapi sha sa atong kahoy nga karaan sa una...

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« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2007, 03:34:39 PM »
Poverty decreasing, new UN report says
By Christine F. Herrera
Manila Standard
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?...ws1_sept3_2007

THE number of people living in extreme poverty in the Philippines is decreasing, with the proportion of families below the poverty threshold falling to 24.4 percent in July this year against 39.9 percent in 1990, a report says.

As a result, the Philippines has a “high chance of success” in achieving its goal of reducing the number of households living in extreme poverty—or those that survive on less than $1 a day—from 39.9 percent in 1990 to 19.95 percent of the population by 2015, according to the United Nations’ midterm report on the Philippines’ Millennium Development Goals.

The Philippines’ Medium Development Goals are a set of time-bound targets for combating poverty, hunger, diseases, illiteracy, environmental degradation and discrimination against women, and they consist of eight goals, 18 targets, and 48 indicators covering the period 1990 to 2015.

The participants in the plan are the Executive and Legislative branches of government, national government agencies, local government units, the business sector, civil society groups and the academe.

The UN report, to be released worldwide this October, says the Philippines’ targets are “on track,” and that statistics point to economic gains having trickled down to the grassroots.

It says the Philippines also has “high chances of success” in its goal of reducing malnutrition and child mortality, promoting gender equality, combating HIV, AIDS, malaria and other diseases, and improving sanitation and access to safe drinking water by 2015.

But the UN says the Philippines must “closely watch” maternal mortality, access to reproductive health services, and curb its high population growth rate of 2.36 percent—which brought the total number of Filipinos to 88.7 million as of July.

The UN says the proportion of the Philippine population below the poverty threshold was 45.3 percent in 1990, but that went down to 30 percent in July 2007 and is “on track” to slide further to 22.65 percent by 2015.

It says the Philippines also has “high chances of success” in reducing the number of households whose food intake is less than 100 percent, to 34.7 percent by 2015 from 56.9 percent now and 69.4 percent in 1990.

The Philippines should also be able to bring down the number of underweight children age zero to 5 to 17.25 percent by 2015, down from 24.6 percent in 2007 and 34.5 percent in 1990, the UN says.

It says the Philippines has also been successful in providing girls the same education opportunities as boys—it has already surpassed its 2015 target as of this year—and dramatically reduced child and infant mortality.

The country has also been successful in combating HIV, AIDS and malaria and improving access to safe drinking water, which is now 80 percent—up from 73.3 percent in 1990 and may reach the 2015 target of 86.8 percent.

But the UN describes the Philippines’ record in improving maternal health and in achieving universal primary education as poor.

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« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2007, 03:45:06 PM »
now the senate maybe getting nervous on this baka maging president for life si GMA. Unsaon nalang ang presidential ambitions nila.
Baka maging mahathir or lee kuan si GMA at bigla tayong umasenso eh pano na sila.

Sa pagkatinood siya lang ang leader nga nakhimo ani...

pero ang mga mind control channels "ABS & GMA" will ignore this news, dili sila malipay ani..

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« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2007, 01:40:43 AM »
Im impressed with GMA, she knows what to do and doesn't care what the opposition says--but she knows what is good for the nation and state. She's smart, vicious, brass, collective, oppinionated, intelligent, strategic, religious and firm on her decisions.

A great leader, IMO.

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« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2007, 04:05:31 AM »

sakto! mag tree planting ta inig uli nato. :D

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