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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2008, 01:14:40 PM »
The corruption in our country does not point to GMA alone.

If we review our Bohol news section, we read a kagawad in Carmen who admitted before Capitol's investigation team that he used up Bohol's poverty program fund to finance his election campaign last May. Did GMA instruct the Carmen, Bohol kagawad to do that?

The corruption is already widespread. Many barangay captains and kagawads are corrupt, too. Should they be denied communion too?

Knowledge of theology does not make one special in the eyes of God. The cardinals and bishops who were accused of pedophile (child molestation) are holders of Ph.D. in Divinity.

Romans 3:23: "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

Romans 3:12: "They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." (King James Version).

The Prophet Isaiah, after seeing the glory and holiness of God:

Isaiah 6:1-10 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, [is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe [is] me! for I am undone; because I [am] a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, [which] he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid [it] upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here [am] I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Even the prophet Isaiah did not claim of being "holier than you" mentality.
Romans 10:9
"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved."

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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2008, 01:36:05 PM »
Then why not make the Archbishop lead out country then?
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2008, 02:03:04 PM »

Raquel,

This post is very educational and I agree with it for the most part, in terms of moral responsibility. I do not doubt the truth and correctness of Catholic teachings, pero I have a problem in how Archbishop Cruz directed his judgment to President Arroyo and her family, especially in the manner that he publicized it. It is evident that there is a clear political agenda, as to pressure her until she gives in, so that she can partake of the blessed Eucharist, the Body and Blood of the Lord, Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Redeemer.

You cannot sell the body of Christ for political amnesty, political favors, or the change of policy, that is a total abomination of church teachings. You see, it would be different if Archbishop contacted Arroyo and her family personally and secretly and told her, but it is different when one goes public and announces this. For who can separate us from the Love of Our Christ? No One! Not angels, not heirarchs, seraphims, cherubim, not the storms, natural ailments, not kings, emperors, not even the Devil (May the Almight Father Rebuke Him!) or his legions of demons who prowl the earth for lost souls! No One! Christ Came for those who have sinned, for those who have malicious hearts, for the unbelievers! Remember the parable of the Prodigal Son that Christ Jesus told his desciples? It illustrates the TOTAL and ABSOLUTE Love of our Father in Heaven!
"Then the father said to him, 'Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. But we had to celebrate and rejoice, because this brother of yours was dead and has come to life; he was lost and has been found."
Luke 15:11-3
The eucharist is there for us. What about myself, yourself, and all the faithful? Are we not sinners before the eyes of God?

Did His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI even deny his own iniquities? No, he admits to his own iniquities, and the heir of Blessed Peter the Apostle even tells us to show mercy to those of a different faith; per se our muslim brothers and sisters. So why does His Eminence Bishop Cruz say this? I mean this in no disrespect to His Eminence, but merely questioning his motives and his judgment.

It is good to contemplate on a specific scripture in reference to this.
Read Romans Chapter 5 verses 12 to 17:

"Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned-sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.And the free gift is not like the effect of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brings justification.If, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ."


Thank You Raquel for sharing that information, and thank you for sharing your view point. Amen!
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2008, 02:15:23 PM »
Jee i wish i could say the same Dodong, you said it all!

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2008, 02:19:42 PM »
 the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe [is] me! for I am undone; because I [am] a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, [which] he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid [it] upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here [am] I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Even the prophet Isaiah did not claim of being "holier than you" mentality.





Yeheeey!

very well said!

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pakpak ko ani mga kapatid!


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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2008, 11:24:14 PM »
From the Gospel of Jesus Christ (King James Version). Reality Check for the Archbishop.

Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, "God, I thank You that I am not like other men - extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess."

And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, "God, be merciful to me a sinner!"

(Jesus said:) I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2008, 11:28:13 PM »
Ahaaa!

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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2008, 11:30:19 PM »
After reading this passage from the Bible, I decide to rest my case regarding this topic.


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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2008, 11:32:39 PM »
Honestly, I couldn't care less about this.

If a person's heart is as black as coal, and as evil as can be, bisan pa usa ka kilo nga osteyas, dili na matabang. Bisan pa moinom ug usa ka litrong holy water, wala gihapon effect.

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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2008, 11:42:13 PM »
bwahahahah

Pwera gaba!

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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2008, 11:46:22 PM »
Sus basin iyaha ra nang isyu pari-a na kay gustong musikat pod.Sakay sa panahon.

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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2008, 11:47:01 PM »
mao nay guiingun C2 nga dili makadajun sa
purgatoryo kay dili ablihan ni san pedro.
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2008, 12:15:56 AM »

gaw di ba si sa pedro tua sa ganghaan sa langit...
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2008, 12:19:27 AM »
^Mr Brownman, pag mention nimo ni San Pedro, gigutom ko kay naka remember ko sa Sr Pedro Lechon Manok

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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2008, 12:21:26 AM »
mao nay guiingun C2 nga dili makadajun sa
purgatoryo kay dili ablihan ni san pedro.

gaw di ba si sa pedro tua sa ganghaan sa langit...
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Lindy and C2 dears, you both have very extreme oposite discription of San Pedro!

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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2008, 12:24:59 AM »
daghan man gud papel si san pedro dear.

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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2008, 12:27:27 AM »
^mas nindot akong description ms belle kay makabusog

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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2008, 12:27:34 AM »
wahahahha!

huy asa na imong Nawong sa avatar?

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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2008, 12:33:26 AM »
duha man kuno ang pwisto ni san Pedro gaw sa purgatoryo
ug sa langit ang ijang manok nga maoy guiingun ni C2 guilitsun
na ni mang Andoks, arang lami-a raba

kining san pedro bitaw sa amung lugar engrande ni nga adlaw kay
mangaligo ming tanang taga baryo didto sa dagat, kadtung ngapujo sa bukid
manugbung sila diri sa dagat para magbasa basa ug mag tagay tagay.

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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2008, 12:34:02 AM »

ako usang gitaguan kay basin makit an sa mga karaan nga dia diri nag suroy suroy basin masukmatan tas mga panaad nga wala matuman hehehe. btw I will try kon ako na mapadak-an. Hilig diay pod ka ani duna pod koy lain karaan nga 22 magnum.



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