The Bad Origin of Christmas: Truth Revealed

[TOPAC]

a good alternative to bagui now is tagaytay. cool and fresh air. just a few hours drive from manila via slex (sta. rosa exit) or via the usual route, aguinaldo highway.

[kiamoy]

haay salamat.. wala nay away.. o cge cge group hug!!! (hihi)

[glacier_71]

kini, makagakos na sad ko...

[david]

a good alternative to bagui now is tagaytay. cool and fresh air. just a few hours drive from manila via slex (sta. rosa exit) or via the usual route, aguinaldo highway.

maayo bitaw pod ang tagaytay bugnaw pod. fresko jud ang hangin labi na og mag atubang ka sa taal lake

[limbarak]

i missed tagaytay, sige mig retreat didto sa una.

[TOPAC]

i missed tagaytay, sige mig retreat didto sa una.

a, hayahayang limbarak. social diay mo bro.

[TOPAC]

welcome to tb sa diay!!!

[limbarak]

salamat calle. pero, di ko social, na-timing lang tong panahona nga makauban ko og naay oportunidad

[buwadsanga]

rock na limbarak! welcome. ug maka adto mog tagaytay. bisan ug mag sigi mog tagay ajaw kalimti ninjo ang ilang public market! pastilang lamia sa ilang bulalo! maka wagtang gyud ug hangover!

[A Layman]

Kulang lang sa parking kay perteng daghana mangaon didto. Halos puro naka wheels ang public diha.

[buwadsanga]

jugom na lay......

[A Layman]

Sige, toss to the wounds that never heals!

[buwadsanga]

dili virtual nga tagay. kanang klaro.....

[A Layman]

Sige bai, iarrange ni nato. Anus a man kaha?

[buwadsanga]

next saturday kay mo adto kos cabanatuan city ron. klaroha kay e email naho o e txt naho ahong address ug tel number. dili nato e post dani kay unjag ma baniog ta!

[A Layman]

Ok, just keep in touch!

[ms da binsi]

next saturday kay mo adto kos cabanatuan city ron. klaroha kay e email naho o e txt naho ahong address ug tel number. dili nato e post dani kay unjag ma baniog ta!

tagai sad ko Wad, kamo-kamo raman sad diha ni A'lie!

[buwadsanga]

lay , A Layman - a lie daw, pwede naman ally pud hehehe! ato ning klarohon kay atong imbitahon si miss dabs. uhaw na pud kaajo ni!

[ms da binsi]

wa ko uhawa oi! diay daghan diri pero wa lang mi TANDUAY! i dont drink beer so kinahanglan naa jud Tandoli ug mag EB ko ninyo...

[glacier_71]

wa ko uhawa oi! diay daghan diri pero wa lang mi TANDUAY! i dont drink beer so kinahanglan naa jud Tandoli ug mag EB ko ninyo...

inum na pod.

[TOPAC]

ahak ini. mga liveraid na ko ini

[ms da binsi]

hahaha!

sus tua na gi uhaw na jud ko!

mag tagay nalang ko ug ako ra usa oi!

[TOPAC]

"lonely tagay just for one" diay ka run mdb.

[buwadsanga]

and id like to hide the pain...

sakto ba?

[TOPAC]

ambot buwad, adto ra ko taman anang kantaha. dili man na panahon naho. LOL

mdb is not in any state of pain.

sya lang painakagusgan mo buhakhak sa tb ug painakapalahubog sa mga baje nato.

[buwadsanga]

pinaka ka gwapa pud! honestly...

[ms da binsi]

ai ning kubol akong atay!hahaha

yeah wa ko kabalik dajun kay nag laga pa ko ug kamunggay pawa sa hubog!

[TOPAC]

sa pabugnawa ang kamungay mdb ha kay luod. makasuka nuon ka. mao na nahitabo nako last new year. wa pa ko makontento sa usang tasang sabaw sa kamungay, nanungkab pa ko bugnaw na man diay ang kamungay, suka lagi. sayang jamo ang don enrique.

[ms da binsi]

hahahaha

mirisi!

hahaha

[udtohan]

karun pa ko kabasa ani... but the truth is the Christmas celebration is based sa pagan celebration. That's it.

[ms da binsi]

absenot man gud ka daghan unta kag ikatampo ani na bibo raba ni karizo!

[udtohan]

hahaha mao jud! tanang symbols and traditions pagan-based ... giilisdan nalang para dali ra sila maconvert.

[TOPAC]

mao jud. mao nay mahitabo sa mga absenot. dili kaapas sa mga lessons. majo untag nibasa pud sa thread. lol

peace el mundo and happy new year!

[udtohan]

hahaha sagdi lang og absenot kay makaapas man sa lesson.

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True, is it true you have Bared yourself?

[TOPAC]

kana bitaw liwas, tapos sa patay, wa man na sa bible.

i THINK (ahong icapital kay basin awayun ko kay kabout-buot ko) naa na nga mga tradition sa mga pinoy before the arrival of magellan nya gi-integrate na lang sa catholicism.

[glacier_71]

mao jud. mao ra gud pog og manguyab, calle, wa mas bibliya ning manghatag cholalet. giingon ra man LOVE ONE ANOTHER...

[Lorenzo]

hahaha mao jud! tanang symbols and traditions pagan-based ... giilisdan nalang para dali ra sila maconvert.

This is very true.

Different methods in spreading the Word of God to different peoples at the time of the introduction of Christianity.

This has been central to discussion in Christian Conversion Discourse by Christian Theologians.

[glacier_71]

it has to be. pakamatyan pa jud na.

[Lorenzo]

When the Apostles were touched by the Holy Spirit in Pentecost, and were filled with conviction to spread the faith, they applied reason and justice in preaching their word. Apostle John as well as Simon Peter (The Rock) went to Rome to preach the word.

Did they condone radical revolution or did they preach the faith in ways to be accepted in that particular society? They did the latter.

Apostle John, preached to slaves, preached in the games, preached in the streets of Rome. Peter, The Blessed who Holds the Keys to the Gates of Heaven, preached in the catacombs of Rome. They preached in Latin, the lingua franca of the Romans.

Though their manner of ministry changed to suite the city, their conviction and faith were undaunted.

When John was condemned to death by Nero, he was brought to the Colosseum in Rome and was placed in a pot of boiling oil. Do you know what John did? While he was led to the pot of oil, he preached the WORD to the Romans in Latin. His eyes and words were affixed to Christ's word and promise. And do you know what happened? Miraculously, John did not die in the pot of boiling oil.

They took him out of the pot of oil, and ye continued to preach and minister. So much that the entire Roman Colloseum converted to Christianity on the spot. Note that he was not speaking to the audience in Aramaic (the language of Jesus), but in Latin.

The miracle of Conversion into Christianity did not come through forced conversion by the sword, but by the appliance and molding local culture to accept the Word of Christianity--to bring comprehension of THE WORD to the locals, who did not know Christ prior.

Per se the Adoration of the Blessed Santo Nino, the Blessed Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico etc is what bridges the indigenous culture to the greater understanding Umbrella--that is The Holy Roman Catholic Church.

And by the Grace of God, conversion was quick and superfluous. In full Communion with Christ, by Authority of His Holy and One Church.


In His Name,

[glacier_71]

ang Pulong (logos) buhi man jud. mopahaum man jud kini sa mga tawo ug panahon...in season and out of season (2Tim4:2)...

[Lorenzo]

Yes, Glacier. These festivals either they be Sinulog, Fiesta de Virgen de Guadalupe (In Mexico), Fiesta de La Nino Jesu Cristo (In Spain) or etc, are but visuals. A visual cortex for us in the present--of how the FAITH was spread in the past, as not everyone in the past was literate or knew how to read the bible, which was written in Latin.

The Christian Faith, for the longest time, was spread through word of Mouth. Through the Ministry of the ONE and HOLY Roman Catholic Church.

That is why Tradition, for the Catholic, is equivalent and supplementary to the Written Scriptural Word. As even BEFORE the Bible was compiled by the Holy Roman Catholic Church (And yes, it was the Catholic Church that compiled the Holy Bible), it was tradition by mouth and by physical means that proliferated the faith.

Everything in Catholic Ministry, be it the Adoration of the Gospel, The Crucifix, The proliferation and witness to the Sacraments, are but part of that Tradition. Which has been handed down from generation to generation, since the time of the first Christians who heard from the Apostles themselves. Thus, it is why our traditions, are One and APOSTOLIC.

Though the Church be in different corners of the world, the unifying feature is its Tradition and Scriptural Word.


We were all sinners before the light and word of God came to us, the Church teaches that, BUT, by Grace and by Grace alone--through the ministry of the Church--which helps facilitates the understanding of the promises of Christ and by the Word of Scripture--it is then and only then are we saved.

Everyone has a bad past, but our present and future have not come yet.

[glacier_71]

korek. mao ni ang misteryo sa Buhing Pulong, enzo, dili matiti ang iyang kahulugan ug paghubad niini sa adlaw-adlaw nga kinabuhi. matag hitabo ug kaagi, aduna gyud Kini ikatubag ug ikapakita nga kamaotuoran sa mga pangutana nga dili usahay masabot sa tawo. pila na kaseglo nga gigamit ang Pulong, hangtud karon epektibo gihapon.

[TOPAC]

Amen.

[buwadsanga]

amen.....

[ayessa]

Kini nga thread magpadayun hangtud sunod pasko.

[buwadsanga]

sa amo sa bohol, adlaw2x pasko day.

[ayessa]

taga bohol ko. dili man pasko didto taga adlaw. lami lang imaginon.

[buwadsanga]

heheheh, sakto ka aye,  adlaw adlaw sa imagination parang sex..... hehehehe! (sorry for my bad word)

[ayessa]

buwadsanga,

lahi man ning mag imagine kag sex kung gigutom ka di ba?.  pero gani, ing daghan gihapun ang population kay sigeg imagine.

[buwadsanga]

hahaha gumikas gutom aye? mao ngi mi burot ang population? e ejacs in a handy way nalang nila ma improve pa ang quality ng sperm. 

[ayessa]

ang mga taga bohol ganahan muhigop ug sabaw unya kinilaw. mao tungod sa ka pobre, imaginon nalang. Didto ra.. ing burot  inoon ang population

[buwadsanga]

grabe ka naman dili ana kapobrehon ang bol-anon. kay bisag kawayan pwede sabwon uy.

[ayessa]

utanon man gani ang kapayas, lubi ug uban pa..   pero hinay hinay madam-ag unya.. heheh mayabu ang utan

[buwadsanga]

taga dis-a mankas bohol day nga murag suhito mankas panginabuhi sa atong isla..

[ayessa]

akong inahan guindulman akong amahan tagbilaran.  taga tagbilaran ko.

[buwadsanga]

unja ngano man tawon ng mura mag taga israel imong avatar. jati, naa ba diay judeo sa tagbilaran?

ako taga jagna siguro naka ari kas amo ni palit ug kalamay...

[ayessa]

silingan ang guindulman ug jagna.

[buwadsanga]

labihan, ang taliwa nga lungsod duero. sigi kog anha saunas engineering ditrict kay engineer kono ko.

[Lorenzo]

korek. mao ni ang misteryo sa Buhing Pulong, enzo, dili matiti ang iyang kahulugan ug paghubad niini sa adlaw-adlaw nga kinabuhi. matag hitabo ug kaagi, aduna gyud Kini ikatubag ug ikapakita nga kamaotuoran sa mga pangutana nga dili usahay masabot sa tawo. pila na kaseglo nga gigamit ang Pulong, hangtud karon epektibo gihapon.

This is the beauty of faith. Faith does not need explanation, it just is.
The fact that the beauty of science only adds to the mystique and brilliance of the Lord--and solidifies one's faith.

I submit, The Lord works in mysterious ways. And His ways are above our knowing.

[glacier_71]

grabe ka naman dili ana kapobrehon ang bol-anon. kay bisag kawayan pwede sabwon uy.

lol..dahon gani sa lemonsito, bay buwad, pwede isagol sa suka aron lang manimaho para appetizer...

[buwadsanga]

das rayt glacie, mao nay gitawag nga boholano ingenuity. o diba inig tuslob sa suka simhot dretso sa panit sa limonsito.

[glacier_71]

das rayt glacie, mao nay gitawag nga boholano ingenuity. o diba inig tuslob sa suka simhot dretso sa panit sa limonsito.

ako nang kasinatian sa estudyante pa ko, buwad, bisag panit sa lemonsito na lang unta to, apan wa jud. gamitan na lang og dahon.

[TOPAC]

sige, padugang dugang lang ning ako para taman Xmas 2009 ni nga thread. nanghipos na ba mo sa injong xmas tree?

[glacier_71]

sige, padugang dugang lang ning ako para taman Xmas 2009 ni nga thread. nanghipos na ba mo sa injong xmas tree?

dia. gabarog pa nga mapasigarbohon ang akong xtmas tree...

[TOPAC]

pang candelaria glacier!

[glacier_71]

pang candelaria glacier!

calle, ako ning bitayan og mga hearts, red lips, cupids, broken hearts, etc... trying to make Valentine's Tree. LOL...

[TOPAC]

that's quite interesting and very innovative glacier!

basin maawardan pa ka anang imung invention.