Euthanasia: Should assisted suicide be banned?

[jorgeanna]

another debate topic that we tackled is about euthanasia. what do you think about assisted suicide?

[Lorenzo]

This is a topic of debate in the medical field as well.

Euthanasia is illegal in medicine. Any physician caught in the practice of euthanizing his patients is liable to loosing his medical license and federal prosecution.

As a medical intern, i will tell you that here in the United States, euthanasia is banned and illegal. Any acts by physicians with a propensity towards euthanasia will result in judicial ramifications, ergo, in the case of Dr. Kevorkian .



Lorenzo.

[jorgeanna]

what if it was decided by the family members? e.g. looy na kay wala nay hope pa, nabuhi lang coz of machines, dli na kaya ang gastos sa hospital etc...

[vrglguapo]

what if it was decided by the family members? e.g. looy na kay wala nay hope pa, nabuhi lang coz of machines, dli na kaya ang gastos sa hospital etc...

Pasagdan hangtod mopanaw dili apatyon kay basin balikan ka sa espirito mosulod pagtulog nimo.It would be your worst nighmare as in Freedy Kreuger ..waaaaahj!

[hubag bohol]

Euthanasia? Aw, depende ra tingali ni sa tawo. Parehas anang mamilig pangasaw-onon, naay uban nga gusto jud nga virgin ang ilang bride. Pero dili man tingali ta kaingon nga ang usa ka baje dili angay minjoan tungod lang kay na-euthanasia...

[david]

dugay ra man nga balaod nang euthanasia diri sa nederland, wa man problema wa pod nisupak kay ang mga tawo naka sabot man.

[vrglguapo]

Euthanasia? Aw, depende ra tingali ni sa tawo. Parehas anang mamilig pangasaw-onon, naay uban nga gusto jud nga virgin ang ilang bride. Pero dili man tingali ta kaingon nga ang usa ka baje dili angay minjoan tungod lang kay na-euthanasia...

hahaha na iyotnasiya hahaha...

[ms da binsi]

I am always Pro EUTHANSIA.

[jorgeanna]

Euthanasia? Aw, depende ra tingali ni sa tawo. Parehas anang mamilig pangasaw-onon, naay uban nga gusto jud nga virgin ang ilang bride. Pero dili man tingali ta kaingon nga ang usa ka baje dili angay minjoan tungod lang kay na-euthanasia...

ha ha ha

[vrglguapo]

I am always Pro EUTHANSIA.

hahaha c MDB pro sa iyotnasiya hahaha..

[ms da binsi]

hahaha c MDB pro sa iyotnasiya hahaha..

hahahhaha! as in premarital? PRO japun ko!

[islander]

it should be banned.  let the dutch decide for themselves.  we cannot play god to fellow human beings.  besides, we have to believe in miracles.  what if the patient could still get well inexplicably, despite the doctors' grim prognosis?

as for euthanasia, hubag bohol version, angay lang mamili ang laki ug virgin bride kun virgin pod siya.  panahon na para inyong i-u-turn inyong utok, mga lalakwe sa mundong itoh.

[ms da binsi]

it should be banned.  let the dutch decide for themselves.  we cannot play god to fellow human beings.  besides, we have to believe in miracles.  what if the patient could still get well inexplicably, despite the doctors' grim prognosis?

as for euthanasia, hubag bohol version, angay lang mamili ang laki ug virgin bride kun virgin pod siya.  panahon na para inyong i-u-turn inyong utok, mga lalakwe sa mundong itoh.

and Docs cant play God to the patients who wants it too Miss Isles. If i know im dying (like stage 4 CA)  i would go to Oregon or maybe Switzerland to have the procedure done, thats for sure.

[islander]

and Docs cant play God to the patients who wants it too Miss Isles. If i know im dying (like stage 4 CA)  i would go to Switzerland to have the procedure done, thats for sure.

and so i hope that you don't have to go to switzerland for that but for skiing and for total, real spa treatment.  btw, people with spunk and are capable of laughing their way through life may have less chances of getting the big c.  you seem to be one, ms da binsi.  enjoy your dance in the snow. 

[ms da binsi]

and so i hope that you don't have to go to switzerland for that but for skiing and for total, real spa treatment.  btw, people with spunk and are capable of laughing their way through life may have less chances of getting the big c.  you seem to be one, ms da binsi.  enjoy your dance in the snow.  

bwahahhahahahahahahah! gi ahak ka oi!

bitaw kuno! di jud ko kalimot ana naa section sa Reader's Digest (one reading material i gew up with), LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE!

unsa diay kaha ang laughter noh? agi bahakhak manggawas ang mga dautang espiritu? hhahaha!

hala mangatawa na ta!

[islander]

laughing here too.  lingaw god kaayo ko anang imong dance in the snow. 

gotta hit the sack now.  it's the wee hours of the morning here.  matarantar unya kog tawgon kog kalit ni juwa kay gidaman diay siya.  guten nacht!  (ingon akong miga, mas maayo kuno kung kuhaon ang g sa guten.) 

[ms da binsi]

laughing here too.  lingaw god kaayo ko anang imong dance in the snow. 

gotta hit the sack now.  it's the wee hours of the morning here.  matarantar unya kog tawgon kog kalit ni juwa kay gidaman diay siya.  guten nacht!  (ingon akong miga, mas maayo kuno kung kuhaon ang g sa guten.) 

hahahha!

goodnight my dear!

[Lorenzo]

what if it was decided by the family members? e.g. looy na kay wala nay hope pa, nabuhi lang coz of machines, dli na kaya ang gastos sa hospital etc...

Terry Shiavo Case comes to mind.

What is your view on euthanasia, Anna?

[glacier_71]

a cheaper option for that is to get closer to an IED in Iraq...and you have no problem for any assistance..many people there don't value life just as many of these pro-euthanasiacs..

[jorgeanna]

Terry Shiavo Case comes to mind.

What is your view on euthanasia, Anna?

my view in this issue is that it shouldn't be banned for personal reasons. if this will happen to me, i would rather die immediately than burden my family with financial problems and heartaches. i have discussed this issue with my husband and we have the same point of view. in the case of cancer, stages 1 and 2, treatment will be sought but if its already in stages 3 and 4, never mind!

[ms da binsi]

my view in this issue is that it shouldn't be banned for personal reasons. if this will happen to me, i would rather die immediately than burden my family with financial problems and heartaches. i have discussed this issue with my husband and we have the same point of view. in the case of cancer, stages 1 and 2, treatment will be sought but if its already in stages 3 and 4, never mind!

Amen Ann! i would do the same. At least naa na  diri sa Oregon. Mo adto lang ko  didto for the procedure kay sumala pa ni Miss Isles di lang daw ko mo adto sa Switzerland...

[glacier_71]

we are really funny species. while in some places, where hospital care isn't accessible and money is not available, people seem to value life more than those who have the means and resources to get quality health care...

because we live in a world that almost always appears to be of our own making, a radical reduction of man has taken place. [He is] considered a simple product of nature and as such not really free, and in himself susceptible to be treated like any other animal.

[ms da binsi]

we are really funny species. while in some places, where hospital care isn't accessible and money is not not available, people seem to value life more than those who have the means and resources to get quality health care...

because we live in a world that almost always appears to be of our own making, a radical reduction of man has taken place. [He is] considered a simple product of nature and as such not really free, and in himself susceptible to be treated like any other animal.

tinuod Glace kay some people are so selfish. i think ending my life for illness is one example of a selfless person. Di jud ko gusto nga naay mag antus nako. Thats how i love my people around me jud. Just my 1 cent.

gawas pa sad, going into all kinds of treatment eg chemo of whatever, maka maut jud sa hitsura Glace! hahahahha! I DONT WANT TO DIE UGLY!

[hubag bohol]

tinuod Glace kay some people are so selfish. i think ending my life for illness is one example of a selfless person. Di jud ko gusto nga naay mag antus nako. Thats how i love my people around me jud. Just my 1 cent.

gawas pa sad, going into all kinds of treatment eg chemo of whatever, maka maut jud sa hitsura Glace! hahahahha! I DONT WANT TO DIE UGLY!

Kahinumdom man lang pud tang James Dean who was supposed to have said something like, "Live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful corpse." 

[ms da binsi]

Kahinumdom man lang pud tang James Dean who was supposed to have said something like, "Live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful corpse." 

hahhaha! i like it!

sus ikaw kuno mamatay dayun nag gusbat ang hitsura, nang lawon ang mata, na upaw pa jud  kinsa man tawon ganahan mo tan aw nimo aber? hahahhahah!

[glacier_71]

hahhaha! i like it!

sus ikaw kuno mamatay dayun nag gusbat ang hitsura, nang lawon ang mata, na upaw pa jud  kinsa man tawon ganahan mo tan aw nimo aber? hahahhahah!

di na problema, kay daghang "special effects" magamit karon para magwapa gihapon ka. gawas pa, di na ka libakon og mamatay, kay kaha maot og nawong. puro na maayo baya imong madungog nga mga storya inig kamatay nimo, di ba?...example, "hoy, kadtos MDB ganahan ko ato niya. buotan kay kugihan jamo to mang-banned og membro sa TB."...hahahahah

[Lorenzo]

my view in this issue is that it shouldn't be banned for personal reasons. if this will happen to me, i would rather die immediately than burden my family with financial problems and heartaches. i have discussed this issue with my husband and we have the same point of view. in the case of cancer, stages 1 and 2, treatment will be sought but if its already in stages 3 and 4, never mind!

A respectable point of view. Tho i must say, Anne, i have heard cases of patients who were in stage 4. The patient did make a complete recovery after a full bone marrow transplant.

The point of financial cost is understandable and you do have a point. Thank you for sharing your view. Mo respect ko ana.

[jorgeanna]

A respectable point of view. Tho i must say, Anne, i have heard cases of patients who were in stage 4. The patient did make a complete recovery after a full bone marrow transplant.

The point of financial cost is understandable and you do have a point. Thank you for sharing your view. Mo respect ko ana.

thanks... maybe because i am very realistic and i dont let my emotions get in my way of thinking. i lost 2 people that i love because of cancer. my fully recovered grandpa suddenly died. a very good friend of mine was ambushed. my grandma was sleeping besides me and i didn't even know she was already dead for i dont know how long....these made me stronger and have accepted that life is short and if my time will come, it will come..

[Lorenzo]

thanks... maybe because i am very realistic and i dont let my emotions get in my way of thinking. i lost 2 people that i love because of cancer. my fully recovered grandpa suddenly died. a very good friend of mine was ambushed. my grandma was sleeping besides me and i didn't even know she was already dead for i dont know how long....these made me stronger and have accepted that life is short and if my time will come, it will come..

There are many stages of dying:

a. anger
b. denial
c. bargaining
d. depression
e. acceptance

Some people go through these stages, some do not, one thing is clear tho...when one accepts it, either during the dying phase, or before it, it allows a mental clarity that can allow proper judgement on what course of action is to be done.

These certain circumstances, have , indeed, made you stronger...to the benefit of your own judgement. Again, keep on being strong.




Love,

[hubag bohol]

There are many stages of dying:

a. anger
b. denial
c. bargaining
d. depression
e. acceptance

Some people go through these stages, some do not, one thing is clear tho...when one accepts it, either during the dying phase, or before it, it allows a mental clarity that can allow proper judgement on what course of action is to be done.

These certain circumstances, have , indeed, made you stronger...to the benefit of your own judgement. Again, keep on being strong.




Love,

I seem to recall that in the standard Kübler-Ross model (the five stages of grief), denial comes before anger.

[Lorenzo]

Technically, Yes, that is right. The mnemonic is DABDA (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance).

It's interesting to know tho that not all dying patients go through all of the stages of dying; some skip certain phases, some alter stages, and some die while being stuck in one particular phase. These stages are essential in helping one cope with death, and understanding the effects of the dying process.

There are some patients that go through depression, and then denial of the event, until the very end. The 5 stages of dying (Kubler-Ross Model) applies in particular to terminal patients and does not apply for patients who die of acute conditions or due to complications from a minor surgery etc.

[ms da binsi]

nganong naabot naman ta sa stages of dying diri? aber?

many people dont want to die period. These are the (religious) people who really didnt embrace the belief they believed in. Sigi lang sila ingon nga heaven is nice and God is there! when someone is dying they have somehow have too much time to repent and pray to go to heaven but yet they dont want to die.

mao raman nay hinungdan nga euthanasia was banned. other than that it should be prescribed. just my cent.

[glacier_71]

ang mga daghan og kwarta ra man pod oroy gustong mamatay nga way sakit..kay maka-afford man...ang mga pobre, sama namo, moagwanta kay anad mag kalisud...usang sentimos nako ni pod...

[hubag bohol]

nganong naabot naman ta sa stages of dying diri? aber?

Bwahaha. Basta naay ikabuga, hala bira!

Sa akong paminaw, paingon na pud ta sa stages of molecular decay ani...