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Islander , good that you raise some question about the SALCON issues...I will not answer your question coz i don't want to say nga dili accurate akong facts...just give me more time to answer your question...kay base sa imong accusation nga gi-dad an ug kwarta si Aumentado sa ilang residence and gipalit si atty victor dela Serna sa SALCON (w/ Chatto and Relampagos)...thats a [email protected]#$%ng lie... Gov. Aumentado has an dignity,integrity, principyo nga tawo...If naa ka dri sa pilipinas Im sure makadungog ka sa mga bomba ni Aumentado against ni Chatto and relampagos sa second district  about sa SALCON DEAL...Everyday gisulti ni Gov. EBA sa katawhan nga after election mopasaka na ug presyo ang Bohol lite Water and Power of SALCON meaning musaka na ang tanang presyo sa utilities bsag dili maayo ang service sa gi -privatized ang maong suga ug tubig...Mao nay kalaki ni relampagos ug chatto sa pagbaligya sa tubig and kuryente...I will answer you point by point why walay nadungog sa KASO sa Salcon until now...???

thanks for clearing this up, arki.  glad to know that the salcon issue is out again.  and oh, i simply mentioned what i heard, for exactly what you did, i.e., clearing it up.  i cannot accuse anyone of anything that i heard only in passing.  when it comes to politics, we stand helpless in separating fact from fiction.  that's why i asked you directly because i truly wanted the truth and nothing but.

tell me, tell us, more.  thanks.

islander, you seem to have a deep knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes of Bohol politics

for my part, i'm a total outsider. but it doesn't prevent me from behaving as if i'm like an "insider"

our politicians are very predictable and openly making bold strokes of dirt which many of us continue to tolerate and ignore.

it seems to me every time we have an election it's a fight between evil and evil personified in our politicians' usual tactics. we may have never run out of good people, but election is apparently not their turf. i may sound pessimistic. i just have a feeling that this is gonna be the permanent face of our politics, and i am afraid i'm beginning to accept it.

i'm not really that knowledgeable, glace.  i just happen to know some people who are deep in bohol politics.  i would like to believe, though, that the mere fact that tb people talk about it is because we find its dirty underbelly hard to accept.  but then it's reassuring that we can go on with our lives inspite of it.

Introduce Yourself / Re: What is Your Present Profession?
« on: May 04, 2010, 09:20:54 AM »
Unsa kaha tuod no, kon naay trabaho nga ingon ani? Inantigo baja ni, kay lain-lain man og porma. Lain-lain pa jud ang design: naay toothbrush moustache, Roman centurion, Mohawk, white sidewall, semi-kalbo, bald eagle, o unsa pa diha...Mag-amping jud sa lower part--labi na kon taas jamo ang nagsiwil! ;D

bald eagle design ang tawag ana, labi na gyod ug opaw na si manoy nga customer.

Introduce Yourself / Re: What is Your Present Profession?
« on: May 04, 2010, 09:18:59 AM »
Sus Dodong mura man ko ug gihangak anang allopathic medicine oi! hahahaha

pero unsa gyod kaha nang 'per say' no?  labaw kong gihangak ana.

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 03, 2010, 01:35:10 AM »
3.  as for the ban in belgium, it is understandable.  foreigners who immigrate to other countries must do their best to assimilate.  it doesn't mean that they must totally leave their past behind or do away with their own culture, but if they must invoke their rights (freedom of religion, labor laws, social welfare, etc.) in their host countries, they have to give up something of themselves too.  the simplest is not to stick out like a sore thumb in the midst of the local population.  (honestly, if one isn’t used to meeting someone wearing the burqa, it’s so disconcerting because it is as if one is seeing a walking coffin.  sorry.)

4.  i suppose the face veil isn’t much to ask for by a host country in the western world that must protect its own culture as it is expected to protect human rights.  and yes, there too are their security concerns.  one can never tell whether it’s a man or a woman or the president of the republic behind that face veil, at least in the west.       

5.  saudi arabia and iran require women visitors from any country to wear the abaya or chador (those black, straight, shapeless, floor length women’s outer clothing and head cover).  those who don’t want to need not go to these countries.  so why shouldn’t western countries like belgium have their own rules too about attires, specially when the rules apply not to visitors who come and go but to immigrants who chose to become their citizens?   

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 03, 2010, 12:52:59 AM »
my two-cents' worth here:

1.  i've asked about the face veil from a good number of muslim women (i've been around and have gone to quite a number of countries, so to speak) who struck me as having a more sophisticated education than i had, and was told repeatedly that a face veil is a muslim woman's choice.  it was even said that nowhere in the quoran can one find a passage that requires a face veil for women.

2.  it is a choice mostly by women who happen to be muslim of arab culture or proximity to that culture (in geographic terms, those in the middle east, south asia, and some areas in north africa).  muslim women in turkey, some eastern european areas (kosovo and some countries in the caucasus, for instance) do not wear face veils.  neither are there face veils for indonesian and malaysian women or our muslim sisters in mindanao.  that doesn't make them less muslim.  

one may therefore conclude that the face veil is more cultural than religious.  the term 'muslim face veil' therefore veers on the politically incorrect.  it's almost like saying 'christian necktie'.    

                                                                                               -to be continued-  

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 03, 2010, 12:02:35 AM »
psssst, scarb, madame, tudloi ko beh unsaon paghimog tabanog.  kun makadaog ko, pilay pad sa unggoy ug sa baki, i can call the pack and the wolf will come.

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:59:55 PM »
na, hala.  kamong mga tunay nga macho dinha.  palupara na nang inyong mga periko.  itabanog! isabwag!  gamita pagboto sa inyong kandidato!  maka-10 euro gyod mong tanan gikan ni marvelous scarbelous, plus a bonus of dollars from ms da binsi.  go ahead, before ko makakat-on ug computer-generated tabanog kay, nah...

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:54:29 PM »
unsa diay ning "periko"... ask lang gyud ko kaysa pretend ko nga kahibaw ko sa meaning

periko pikoy.

(song, in waray)  akon magtatanom lawiswis kawayan
                        akon la kan pikoy palataylatayan
                        salbahes nga pikoy ka waray batasan
                        simbulod han kuwarto kan iday higdaan*
                        *(gikamang si inday sa iyang silid-tulogan, hihihi, batot perikoha)

Introduce Yourself / Re: What is Your Present Profession?
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:48:04 PM »
wala pa jud pubic hair kay gi shave man hahaha...

bag-ong gioperahan ug kidney?

aba, ang alam koh, hindi ako marunong tumowad.  makatulog gyod hinoon kong galakaw.

a real tragedy.  those officials deserve trial by publicity at the very least and public hanging at most.  we are really in dire need of sensible public officials.   

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:19:50 PM »
sayang i dukot know how to make tabanog in the computer.  kun real pa lang unta ni nga tabanogay, mas kamao ko.  ma-champion gyod kog ahat kay kang ms da binsi nga hulagway akong ipatapot, back to back, ug ipalupad aron mahimo siyang flying blue angel, ahahaaaay!

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:15:49 PM »

hala ka cute ni Hubag! tan awa si Miss Isles kay naa jud BOOBIES !!hwahahahha!

mora gyod tuod ug ako ning girl caricature, puwera boobies kay si hubag ang dagkog boobies.  his name is not hubag for nothing.

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:11:35 PM »
c Hubzkie na nga nangharana ni Ms.Isles tyahaha
ayay motungä to ron mating fah !

now pa gyod ko read ani.  omg!  biglang gumilok aking lapalapa.  harana?  sino sha?  iyo karpo?

Help & Support / Re: ♥TB FestivaL Contest-3rd Year Anniversary♥
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:06:35 PM »
iluwa sa iho kay pait na kaajo.
AsPo.....ang A sa otan salisdi og E

o di ba kaha, aslom na kaayo tungod sa pagkapan-os.

AsPo: kun sa kanta pang karaan, every time it rains, it rains pen is from heaven, o di ba kaha kining linya sa 'bridge over over troubled water' nga di tantong karaan--- and pen is all around.

please bear with me, glace, if i sound like a pol sci 1 teacher.  i got carried away.  this does not presume that you don’t know these things; i know you know, and chances are you even know more than i do.

my previous posts are actually mere intros to my questions for arki, who is obviously pro-aumentado and who may at least be in a position to shed some light on the following:

1.  the scuttlebutt that the esteemed outgoing governor eventually kept quiet about salcon because he was given a to-die-for amount by the company needs some truth-telling.  the money bag was reportedly brought to their residence one night.
2.  a topnotch lawyer who joined the fray, purportedly to help the plaintiffs in the case against relampagos-chatto et al, was also paid.  he was reported to have asked for the papers from the plaintiffs, and then gave these all to the other side for a certain amount.

3.  when the plaintiffs raised their case to the court of appeals after failing at the lower court level, the case was never raffled off among the justices.  it reportedly was permanently in the hands of one of these justices, who threw out the case without much of a hearing.  a lawyer brother-in-law of relampagos is a ranking officer at the court of appeals. 

if all these stories were true, including rumors that both relampagos and chatto were also paid, then no one has the moral ascendancy to throw stones at each other’s glass houses.  all the campaigners in the world, tb posters most specially who seem to be everywhere in tb nowadays like some pestilence, cannot clean up the tarnished image of these political leaders even if they shred their throats and fingers to smithereens announcing how great their candidates are and how bad the opposing camps are.
but those who run for public office will always have winners and losers from among them.  fereting out the truth in all these rumors could at least let voters know who and what they are voting for, for all their worth.

the power of the legislators when it comes to the executive and judiciary branches lies in the committee on appointments.  this committee is supposed to review the appointments to top government posts made by the president, and they can approve or disapprove, in keeping with the ideal of check-and-balance.  and this is when collegial relationships between legislators are played out.  congressman1-on-the-dock whispers to congressman2 to reassign a judge or to sit on his promotion in case he dares to do something about his pending case.  will a judge risk his retirement and life's work?  i doubt.   

so maybe, and i say maybe because i don't really know the truth behind all this, it would have been next to impossible to file a case against jane censoria cajes before the election period, when her father was still a sitting legislator.  more so that her father openly showed that he's the best friend of the first gentleman.

and yes, bohol's premier dirty trickster knows when to strike and to hit where it hurts most, without proof that he's behind it all.

meanwhile, glace, it's not easy for anyone to file a case against sitting legislators.  these idiots can even have a judge transferred to antartica if he so dares to mete a fair judgment against a legislator.  our politics also happens to be a game of whisperers, unfortunately.

outside of the rumored ambition of gma's eyeing the speakership of the house as a steppingstone to becoming prime minister in a possible charter change, being in congress is her best bet against hundreds of potential cases against her once she steps down as president.  that's why she's running.  what a crying shame.       

it's quite obvious, glace, that the boholano politician who's the ultimate expert in the dirty tricks department casts a long shadow.  the tricks of cajes and co. are puny when it comes to mudslinging.  we can be sure everything will be quiet once the election dust settles.  this guy, who never lost an election, became disquietingly quiet on the salcon issue after riding on it, front seat, during a previous campaign.  and so suddenly.  why, arki?  i hope you at least have an idea why.     

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