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World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:49:04 PM »
Exchanging ideas with people with a  chip on their shoulder is always a colossal waste of time. Just because one's view differs from others doesn't necessarily make them wrong or beneath anybody. There's no excuse for condescension and personal attacks ...or of course, strategically boasting of what one's lifestyle is all about. Good on you .

As you said yourself, "your little knowledge".  Well, my choice not to associate or have anything to do with that part of the world is based on personal and business experiences. Not yours but mine. Your obvious love, devotion and pride are yours as well.

I've said all I have to say. You can twist my words all you want, there is no point in  participating in a humbug match in an anonymous forum. Good on you, more power to you and enjoy your bubble...or wherever you are.  8)

then say no more, chip.  (my shoulder won't accept you.)  who said anything about someone being wrong or beneath anyone?  i wasn't the one who called people "kagwang".  truly there's no point in your participation, even if you just did willingly, especially when you resort to accusations in your posts on top of your biases.  yes, i'm enjoying my bubble.  yours had just burst.   

Inspiration & Hope / Re: Till Death Do Us Part
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:39:49 PM »
luoya bitaw na oi!

akong imagination ani kay volcanic eruption victims.  i hope it was sudden for them and they were spared the terror.  (hi, ms. da binsi.) 

Introduce Yourself / Re: The Significance Of Your Username
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:33:22 PM »
yup... ;D thanx sa pag welcome...baw oi, nganung gi ban ko sauna...giban without warning man ko...hehehe, well no hurt feelings...di man ako ang naay power,after all... ;D

nakurat sad bitaw ko.  na-timing pa gyod nga igo ra kong niingon nimo nga padayon baya bisan human na ang election para alegre ta, unya, pfffft dayon.  kun nakabasa ka adto nga thread, naa pa gyod tawoy uban nga nangutana kun asa na ka.  but all's well that ends well. 

karon moadto sa ko sa political threads kay duol na baya ang election.  basahon ta ka didto, ug depende sa imong posts, mahimo tang magpapards o magbangi, hehehe.  ayaw lang ko labayag kalamay ha?

Inspiration & Hope / Re: Till Death Do Us Part
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:20:14 PM »
asa ka part.  gakuyog man lagi gihapon...

Family & Parenting / Re: Catch
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:17:07 PM »

nahuso ba kaha ni hangtod sa ubos?       

Question and Answer / Re: Do you eat Carabao meat?
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:40:54 PM »
baje ug laki, di gyod ko. 

Introduce Yourself / Re: The Significance Of Your Username
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:26:16 PM »
thanx for the welcome bay jig... ;D labaw pa sa 9 long as naay computer unit nga nga magamit nga lain nay IP adress...hahahaha

is this really you, lex?  glad you're back, aking pag-asa!  go for 18 lives, man.  alegre na pod tag samot kay mibalik ka nah!  welcome back.  sige lag late akong welcome ha?  di man god ko makabasa sa tanang posts kay tukhi-tukhi ra man ko sa tb mao nga karon pa ta ka nasakpan. :D :D :D

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:06:31 PM »
Wow...really got under your skin on that one didn't I....feels like the wind is blowing stronger already. Keep it coming o most high ROFLMAO  ! ;D ;D ;D

ROFLMAO here too!  you have nothing more to say except to tell yourself that you got under my skin?  go dream, girl.  i wasn't the one who complained about potshots.  but hold on tight, more winds are coming.  you're not the only one who can blow, girl!  after you, wooooooooooo! ;D ;D ;D

Mga Punto Gikan Sa Imong Sermon :

MATUD MO : Na-high blood.
AKONG SUHESTIYON : Padayon aron ka matigok.

MATUD MO :  Dile ba uwaw nga mabulgar ang atong pagka amaw?
AKONG SUHESTIYON : ... Ikaw ray amaw. Wa koy labot. Usaba imong linya sama ani: "Dile ba uwaw nga mabulgar ang AKONG pagka amaw? Para ikaw ra pod motubag. Kasabot ka? Magkinatsila ko ron.

MATUD MO : ... ang akoa lang nga dile unta nato i sabwag ning atong kaugalingong problema dire sa kawanangan, kay ngano?....dakong uwaw ni!!!!
AKONG SUHESTIYON : Inday or Dodong, global ni nga problema. Dili lang sa Guindulman. Ikauwaw ba nga naputol inyo kahoy? Dapat nimo IKASUKO! Kasabot ka? Ha? Kay ininglison nako.

MATUD MO : .... hangtud sa mga gabasa niini nga gasiga sad ang mata! :o
AKONG SUHESTIYON : Ayaw ko apila. Basin BUDLAT kag mata, mao nga gasiga pirmi.

MATUD MO : Gicompara na ta sa ubang mga dapit sa kalibutan sa ilang kaanindot ug pagkamabinantayon sa kalikopan. Iya tang gipatan aw sa link nga didto siya namuyo unya nindot kuno kaayo.
AKONG SUHESTIYON : Dapat lang. Unsaon nimo pagkahibalo sa MAAYO BATOK SA KADAOT? Aber? Unsaon nimo paghibalo sa nindot batok sa dili nindot kon walay basihanan? Don't be narrow-minded my friend. Use your coconut. I mean use your head. Basin mokatkat kas lubi?

MATUD MO : Ang chainsaw operator nga namutol sa acacia, namatay! unya wala mahibaw-i ang sakit....Mao ra kini ag sakto kanato ang maligno,barang, ug ingkato.
AKONG SUHESTIYON : Wa mahibaw-i ang sakit kay wala ma-autopsy. Simple as that.

MATUD MO : Sa sunod ayaw nag ininglisa ang atong sentimento mahitungod niani arong dile ta maulawan sa mga banyaga......
AKONG SUHESTIYON : Don't hide the fact that you can not understand simple English. Do you? Karon ka pa naulawan sa banyaga? Gusto kag bisaya? Di man gani ka kabalo unsay bisaya sa word nga BANYAGA? Dodong ang BINISAYA sa Banyaga is LANGYAW. Banyaga is a tagalog word sa LANGYAW. Nakasabot na ka?

Meantime, padayon sa imong pagka high blood.

paskang alegreha nimo, gwarz.  punto que punto.  go, go, go! ;D ;D ;D

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 02:03:50 PM »

Again you take potshots. High horse ? I believe you have not really seen one yet so I'll let you off the hook on that one. IF anything, your comments have grown more and more condescending. Maybe you should rethink and actually socialize more , maybe you'll see what real people's concerns are.  Lonely ? you can draw your own conclusions. If anything, people who seem to think they're the end all , be all of knowledge are the most lonely. So, you can be alone in your citadel of geopolitical authority while I go to dinner and plant swap with my plant buddies, and be the normal, average, human being that I am  ;)

what’s so bad about a high horse?  you will let me off the hook on that one?  whew!  no greater love hath she.  it’s just too bad that you perceive my comments as becoming more and more condescending.  (my apologies.)   to think that i believed (so I was wrong then, sorry) that you were the condescending one when you called another race “kagwang”.
thanks for your suggestion that i should rethink and socialize some more.  that’s another rushed conclusion of yours, thinking that people with more inclusive knowledge of things other than those that concern their daily lives are not socializing and thus could not see what “real people’s concerns are”.  (btw, what kind of people are not real?)  oh,  sorry for using your word “lonely”.  (“you must be lonely in the minority”, was how you put it in an earlier post.)

as for socialization, too bad i have more than i could bear.  i’m now in the thick of preparations for a dog show as publicity committee member.  but last night was an interesting dinner over indian fare with the chief justice (the host), a fellow filipino (a tennis player with a masteral degree in physics), and an american couple (a lady lawyer and a banker).  the latter was a very interesting couple who asked my husband and me how we met.  and when i asked them how they met, all hell broke loose.  you bet i learned some more of what “real people’s concerns are”.   

if anything, “people who seem to think they’re the end all, be all of knowledge” and end up admitting that they’re not interested in learning more but have made conclusions based on these meager knowledge are not only lonely, they’re pathetic.

talk to your plants; they listen.  (i do.)  they make us “normal, average human beings”.  but then you already are, judging from your own declarations and your avatar.  if that is you in your avatar, i must say you’re personable.  and that’s a conclusion based only on the picture that i see.  i hope you will also let me off the hook on this one.     

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 01:54:22 PM »

Yes, lots of Americans are ill are a lot of Filipinos. But come to think about it, if everyone was concerned about things that are useless in their daily lives, do you honestly think there could be progress ?  Your wealth of knowledge about geopolitics won't buy a mansion but maybe a wealth of knowledge in stocks, commodities or real estate will. You can't blame people for pursuing what is important to them...and FYI, I don't think most Americans think they're the center of the world. Just like how most Filipinos think that everything from the US is better, a lot of Americans think that if its from Europe, its on and so forth.

fine.  everything is a matter of style, so to speak.  (i won’t call your roses “kagwangs” or useless because i have a meager knowledge of roses, though i’m interested in giving myself a chance to learn.)   

we got into this discussion in the first place because of your conclusion about a region and its “kagwangs” for which you eventually admitted you have meager knowledge about nor interested to learn more about.  sure, my knowledge of geopolitics won’t buy me a mansion (not interested; couldn’t maintain it), but neither would your lack of it buy you one.

whoever is blaming anyone here for pursuing what is important to them?  i only wanted to clear up some misperceptions with the little firsthand knowledge that i have.  and yes, we both know that most americans don’t think they’re the center of the world.  to believe otherwise is another form of misperception. 

fyi, i doubt if most filipinos think that everything from the u.s. is better.  i, for one, believe that czech crystals, venetian lace, french perfume, portuguese corks, german cars, swiss mountains, spanish oranges, italian olives, japanese technology, british english, thai sauce, european football, filipino husbands, and american practicality are the best.       

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 01:48:54 PM »

Majority = the most people....hmmm, 49% is minority,51% is majority wouldn't you say so, then it follows that if there's a better number of people who view that region negatively rather than positively, it follows that the previous group is a majority.

ugh.  i’m sorry but your logic escapes me here.  i wonder if it’s the sentence construction or the strange scientific process of arriving at a conclusion. 

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 01:46:21 PM »
Wow, now you're taking potshots. Just because my interest doesn't lie where I'm not wanted should take to mean I'm not intellectually curious ? Hmmmm.....maybe all that time studying roses and planting techniques I should've spent studying something useless 

not really, because what you perceive as “potshots” are simply my answer to your claim that “i’m very lonely in that minority” for having access to another kind of information.  i only wondered what the basis of this particular claim of yours is.
anyway, if you were not super intellectually curious (you didn’t mention “cleansing of one’s stereotypes”) then you wouldn’t be posting here your ideas and conclusions about other cultures, nor would you be studying roses.  so, fine,  don’t study something that doesn’t interest you (and thus should one not make conclusions sans sufficient basis) because you’re “not wanted” there.  i take it to mean that you’re wanted in the u.s. and by the roses.

oh, i’ve been growing orchids, which i studied formally at the beginning, for the last 18 years.

meanwhile, my apologies for what you perceive as potshots. 

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 12:12:34 PM »
On the upside, there are a lot of good as well, the term, " Universality of the Human Experience" . It hurts to think about but it seems that all of most of our values that we thought as ours is not exclusive to us. Warm hospitality, sense of kabayanihan, family ties... I live in a community where there is a hodge podge of colors and nationalities and where you visit friends, hospitality is as warm as any Filipino household, most of the time, even better.

we share the realization that such human values are not exclusively ours in the first place because not realizing this is opposed to the  “universality of the human experience”.

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 12:10:28 PM »
Yes, more often than not, it is worse, mind you. We share a bias of course being emotionally attached but when you look and really think of all that has happened when you were growing up, it clearly shows the bad habits and attitudes result in even worse than what is even reported in the news. Of course, money and power come into play, except in cases of extreme egregiousness like Mayor Sanchez. Otherwise, would we really hear of just 2 or 3 women they raped and killed ?

spoken like a true immigrant.  (there are of course stereotypes about your kind, but that’s not the point here and, well, i’ve always abhorred stereotypes.) 

congratulations, then, for growing up amid this supposed moral squalor and coming out good somewhere else, and then considering yourself in the position to make judgments of the country where you became what you are.  be glad, too, that your relatives back home are still alive amid all the worse, mind you, that your original country is, much worse than what is reported in the news, as you say.

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 06, 2010, 12:06:40 PM »
hahahaha..naay daghan. pero, kung naay tabon sa nawong ug wala sa ubang bahin sa lawas, magfiesta ta. hahahahahha

bitaw, quel. upaw ang nawong, upaw pod ang ubos? hahahhaahha

humba galing imong tuyo, glace, hahaha. ;D ;D ;D 

Jokes and Humor / Re: Jane and Tarzan
« on: May 05, 2010, 05:19:01 PM »
good girl jane man gud.  pag-ingon ni tarzan nga di kompleto ug english ug 'hold mine' imbis 'hold my hand', tuo lang pod tawon si jane.  way sala ang baje. 

omg!  magparetoke na lang kog parehag nawong ni aumentado.  makasiguro pa ko nga hitsura pag tawo.  ug may chance pa gyod ming magkaila ni gabby a.k.a. bqn.

as of today, declare na ang iglesia ni cristo nga ang ilang dapigan is aquino-roxas.  based on their own surveys, this is the tandem that's winning.  they always go for the winner, whom they inform about their choice and from whom they ask for concessions.  unsa man ni, adobe photoshoppe pod sila, kalamaydebohol?  (i just want your opinion.)     

World Daily News / Re: Muslim Face Veil Banned in Belgium
« on: May 05, 2010, 02:29:53 PM »
True, but I go to the path of least resistance. The way I figure, why bother when I am already considered a lower creature just because I'm a woman. I try to go where I can feel welcomed and not hated for reasons that I couldn't change. I am born a woman, brown and raised Catholic. If I am hated because of that, there is no point for me to force myself. The world is big enough, and there are other cultures, other peoples that can and will teach me a lot. Life is short.  ;)

I can say this much though..Persian food is pretty darn good ! 

in texts and in practice, women are never relegated as lower creatures anywhere there or in the religion called islam.  again, this perception is a western one.  it’s similar, but on a different angle, to the perception of other nationals that the u.s. is all about hollywood where money talks, has loose morals, and f**king comes easy between strangers.   

like you, i’m a woman, brown and catholic.  i didn’t feel hated because of these.  (there were some fellow nationals though who got glares because they wore backless dresses and mini skirts in a place where all that is asked for is decency in clothes and ladies who dress in western clothes are not required to wear the abaya at all.)  so i can’t imagine why you would feel hated when you were never there.
true.  persian food is good, though i can’t understand why this came into the picture when our subject was an arab city.  iran and the united arab emirates may share the same region and religion (they’re even facing each other in the arabian gulf), but persians (i.e. iranians) and arabs are two very different races.  surely, everyone has access to this information.

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