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Poems and Poets / Re: I Loved You On Wednesday
« on: June 21, 2010, 11:05:37 AM »

hahaha!  tsure gyod ning istoryaha.  lorenzo is valedictorian, si bugsay ang salutatorian, si bai hubs nangiwit, hahaha!  unsa man na, bai bugs, nganong nalupig man ka?

aguy.  paita gyod ning sayon ra kuno mangitag mangingihaw karong panahona.  it used to be that bohol was beyond such gangland killing. :(    


kaguran, bugs, ang akong gitakin.  di ko modalag latigo kay akong knee-high boots nabilin sa pinas.  maayo pay kaguran kay magtsinelas o magtiniil ra.

 8) - nawong sa gatakin ug kaguran

Average by His Grace...[/i]

take note that i did not credit you with omnipotence and omnipresence.  my use of the word omniscience here is as a literary device.  i’m not crediting you with divinity, far from it, because if i did so, long before i could punch the letter x on my computer keyboard i would have wilted like the fig trees when the messiah passes by.

on your spiritual and intellectual journey, vaya con dios, mein herr,

islander  :)

Book of Genesis Chapter 12[/b]: 1Now(O) the LORD said to Abram, "Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. 2(P) And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and(R) in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."

His migration to Judea was a direct mandate not of himself, but by God The Father, the importance of which, is the completion of redemption prophesy (I leave that to you and others to accept or believe/ or not).

All the best mein frau,

spare me the bible when my questions are deduced from the claims in your posts. 

or why don’t we just call on our creator to answer everything or make him as the reason for everything?  will there be peace between israel and palestine?  yes/no, because of the grace of god.  will the sun come out tomorrow?  yes, because of the grace of god.  will scarb appear in tb again?  yes, because of the grace of god.  will bugsay use a paddle instead of a kaguran?  no, because of the grace of god. 

will ms da binsi be able to raise again from the dead those trees in guindulman?  yes, because of the grace of god.  will vhinz08 get all his front teeth back?  yes, because of the grace of god.  is lorenzo my relative?  yes, because of the grace of god.  will hubag complete his collection of frog collectibles?  no, because of the grace of god. 

dearest average baby boy, it just won’t do.  if it were so, we wouldn’t have this kind of discussion.  you need not even have started this thread because the answer is the grace of god. 

sure, abraham’s mandate came from god.  but since you’re interested in comparative religion as i am, kindly check out what muslims also believe as their mandate from allah.  for starters, muslims also believe they are descendants of abraham.  (of course, you know that.  you’ve mentioned somewhere about your subject on islamic studies or something where the muslim professor wasn’t able to answer your question.)  and thus we may go back all over again, ad nauseam, to the beginning of this thread.

may you be showered with the best of answers,

islander :D



which question of mine is this that you refer to as the very question?  my questions, which this quoted post of yours comments on, total 5.  definitely, not one of my questions is on whether there will be peace or not.  

here we go again, i go in one direction, you go the other way.  this is getting impossible.  i'm beginning to feel i'm wasting my time.  

if you cannot answer any of my specific questions, couldn't you just say so?


beautiful mind?  Wasn’t there a movie of the same title with the hero having only half a mind? ;D  of course, you, too, have a beautiful mind.


ardent apologies ardently accepted. 

one uses the term erroneous because something’s wrong; one uses the term ‘corrective implication’ because there is ‘wrong implication’ somewhere.  i don’t take things personally, though, so you need not be concerned about any nerve of mine being struck by lightning. 

you can doubt my intelligence anytime and it would not increase nor decrease my imbecility.  it is best to separate the person from his mistakes, real or imagined, for objectivity’s sake, such as when it comes to history, right?  i do regard you and everybody else that way in our discussions here at tb.  i expect you to do the same.   

at the latter part of this quoted post of yours, you’re saying you’re adding.  so it’s no longer correcting and clarifying.  now, where did your claim of my undermining ms. states go? 

we’re not here at tb to question anybody’s intelligence, not mine, not yours, or anybody else’s.  we’re discussing where we stand, not our intelligence quotients.

i truly do not mind your doing what you wish to do.  just expect answers, which i hope you wouldn’t mind too.     


age generally has everything to do with most things, from one’s health to this subject matter, the former as a matter of course and the latter in terms of perspectives.  (there are reasons for the minimum age for one to qualify for a driver’s license or to be qualified to vote, right?)   

gaining perspectives, in context, and gaining more knowledge takes time.  and one gains age with time.  (your understanding of your parents’ relationship with each other must be different now than when you were 6 years old, for example.  so it is with one’s understanding of everything else.)

when one is young, one tends to believe that everybody else is less knowledgeable.  mark twain put it thus:   

“When I was a boy of fourteen my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around.  But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man has learned in seven years.”

let any young one show his imagined mettle and chances are he’s bound to be put in his place.


that’s the very problem of this exchange; you believe you can correct and clarify as if others cannot read or understand what they’re reading.  you could have said that you only wanted to add, not correct and clarify.  the latter confused me because i couldn’t for the life of me get what it was that you wanted to correct and clarify nor get your correction and clarification, on top of your claim that i was undermining ms. states.  

but if you insist, then please take time to distill what you wish to convey so you won’t end up muddling your points.  we’re reading almost the same things anyway.  we (tb members) differ only in understanding and interpretation of what we read and know.  top that with experiences and personal choices or even biases if you may, and truly our discussions have reason for being.  

unfortunately, all my "comments and personal inferences" have something to do with our discussion.

wow, i’m already lecturing, say you.  taking after you?  credit me at least for being a fast learner.


i am looking forward to that day. 

when one is careful with simpler things like grammar and spelling, whether it is in university or a forum or the rest room, it may show that one is also careful with everything else, from manners to data and conclusions.  the main point gets garbled if the medium is garbled. 

who cares about grades?  they matter not because we don’t do things as cleanly as we could only because we are graded.  i believe we should not sacrifice quality for speed.

Question and Answer / Re: Best places you have ever been?
« on: June 20, 2010, 11:17:00 AM »

kun pag-umangkon pa ko niya, dugay ra tingali kong nangbitik ug iya-an. ;D  maayo gani kay buotan si calle... ;)


before you can clarify anything, you should be clear yourself.  you wish to “add clarity and precedence to ms. state’s post”?  do you really understand what “precedence” means?

“all are welcome to read it, not only for you.”  the word “for” should be deleted.

and “mein frau” is wrong twice over.  since “frau” is feminine, it ought to be “meine frau”.  but still it would be wrong, because it means “my wife”.  the correct expression is “meine dame”.
oh, lorenzo, as the saying goes, “marami ka pang kakaining bigas”.  please act according to your age, which isn’t much, and accomplishment, which is zilch.  who knows, if you do so you might earn a multitude of real friends.

now i'm doing what you do, correcting people. 

thanks too.

Question and Answer / Re: Best places you have ever been?
« on: June 20, 2010, 10:58:47 AM »

hehe, pasayloa lang gyod ko, bai bugs.  di pa ko andam nga mohatag nimog apelyido.  importante man god nako nga islander ra ko.  mausab ang tanan kun mailhan na akong mga paryente.  di na tingali ko makapangaway o makapasiaw.  wa hibaw-ig mabunalan pa gyod ko sa akong mga paryente.  mahanawan pa ko aning akong kalingawan. 

nganong gusto kog magpabilin nga nagtakoban?  wa baya nato hibaw-i kun fugitive from justice ba koh! ;D bitaw, i am a naturally very private person at all times.  i keep to myself and the family and hardly go out.  in fact, i hate going out.  as the cyberworld is a different world, so must i have a different life in tb.  i hope for your understanding.       

Cars and Automotive / Re: US-made Cars the Best?
« on: June 20, 2010, 10:33:23 AM »

ug ang tag-iya anang real beauty, nangwitik pa gyod sa guindulman ay.  di man hinoon ka magukod ug bunal ug sanga sa pinutol nga acacia, with you driving that vintage beauty... hahaha!

Cars and Automotive / Re: US-made Cars the Best?
« on: June 20, 2010, 10:30:11 AM »

whew!  butol man gyod ko bahig auto kay akong standard is low (basta modagan, mao na na), but your vintage car is a real beauty, ms da binsi.  abi nakog ang amo ang vintage (1993).  paskang, pipitsugin ra man diay intawon ikomparar sa inyong 1953.  henceforth, mohilom na lang ko nga  vintage amoa. :-X  shalan ba diay...

Cars and Automotive / Re: US-made Cars the Best?
« on: June 20, 2010, 04:47:38 AM »

too bad we've never tried any american car and have no plans of having one anytime soon.  my brother used to have a ford.  i remember him complaining that it was a guzzler.  we used to have a honda civic, which i complained much about because my legs had to to be stretched much to reach the accelerator.  it was uncomfortable and dangerous for me.  now we have a not-so-new mercedes, efficient and trustworthy.  i finally found my car.  but american cars still make me curious.   

General Topic / Re: Noynoy's Souvenir Doll
« on: June 20, 2010, 04:16:15 AM »

maybe it's up to the owners of these noynoy dolls to make them grow old in their hands.  kun naay ako, hinayhinayon nakog ibot ang buhok in keeping with how the human noynoy is through the years.

Question and Answer / Re: What's the bravest thing you've ever done?
« on: June 20, 2010, 04:11:41 AM »

two things, actually.

1)  as a student, throwing out of the house the things of my cousin who lived with us and sowed too many intrigues in our family, then going into a shouting match with her mother who came to defend her.  both our families never recovered after that.

2) as a single working girl, calling up the welfare agency to report child abuse in our next-door neighbor, giving my real name and putting myself up as witness.  what happened:  the 9-year-old boy had 8 big staple wires buried in his back and arms.  his drunk father from hell shot him with an electric stapler, the kind that's used by carpenters for walls.  that's gigantic.  and that was my last straw.     


naa sad koy amiga nga mapagarbohong moistorya bahin sad sa iyang amiga nga ang apelyido patay.  gubot gyod hinoon ang klase kada pagsugod sa semester.  ang wa maanad nga mga bag-ong classmates mangatawa gyod kuno tawon.  atubangon lang tanan ni miss patay ug moingon siyag "why you laughing?  asa ra man diay mo padung tanan?"

unya, naa poy maestro nga mangutana pa gyod ug asa ang accent, sa 'pa' ba o sa 'tay'.  tubagon ra sad ni miss patay ug "ayder of de tow will dow." (pronounced as spelled).

dugang pa, kun molabay si miss patay ug menteryo kun mobiyahi, moingon dayon siya sa iyang amiga, "mao na among hacienda."

das the spirit!

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