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Bohol Directory / Re: The Eskaya Tribe, a Fact
« on: March 23, 2009, 12:49:01 PM »
The problem with research via Google is that you end up catching everything, regardless of whether its true or false. Eg, one of the paras pasted above was written by me but has been copied and pasted all over the place and mixed in with information which is false.
These various dates (AD 677, AD 667 etc) come from the folkloric Eskaya tradition. They are important in Eskaya stories but not historically verifiable. The Antequera cave findings are not archeologically verifiable and the out-of-Sumatra theory has been falsified linguistically. When Googling Eskaya info, ask yourself:
 - Has this material been published in a peer-reviewed publication (ie, tested and approved by experts in that field)?
- Does the material cite its sources, and do those cited sources also cite their sources?
If the answer is 'no' to either of those, then it's unproductive to continue circulating that material.
As to the occupation of Bohol prior to AD 667, visit the Bohol Provincial Museum or read the excellent articles published in Tubod, available at the Bohol Provincial Library.


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Bohol Directory / Re: The Eskaya Tribe, a Fact
« on: March 19, 2009, 06:38:50 AM »

This is a good point. So much confusion over this issue has come from the fact that some researchers took the traditional folkloric stories of the Eskaya as historical fact. Tamblot, Dagohoy and Sikatuna feature prominently in Eskaya folkore. Even Magellan is mentioned. The Eskaya themselves do not necessarily take these tales literally just as many Christians do not accept the literal truth of Genesis. This doesn't mean that Genesis is not instructive to those same Christians or that the stories are not important to the Eskaya. I suggest interpreting Eskaya folk tradition *on its own terms* and the archival, historical, archeological and linguistic data *on its own terms*. You don't need one to explain the other. Eskaya literature is part of Bohol's rich cultural heritage - it ought to be promoted and cherished. As for the non-folkoric history of the community I agree with Koddi. It's likely that the Sumatras and other families migrated from Loon at the turn of the century and arrived in Biabas where a small community already existed. Eskaya literature is evidently post-hispanic since the stories mention events that occurred after Spanish contact. Eskaya language is also probably post-hispanic (see link to document above). Eskaya culture, meanwhile, contains elements that are both pre- and post-hispanic. There are a few examples of these kinds of postcolonial communities and languages elsewhere in the world but they are relatively rare. I strongly believe that the study of Eskaya culture ought not to be trapped in a cycle of 'proving' or 'debunking'. This is a misguided and unproductive distraction. A century from now Boholanos will be wondering why they didn't pay more attention to this distinct cultural community and their literary/linguistic tradition.

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Bohol Directory / Re: The Eskaya Tribe, a Fact
« on: March 17, 2009, 03:36:31 PM »

They *are* a cultural minority. Whether or not they are 'indigenous' or 'tribal' is another matter if you are to go by the conventional meanings of those words which are themselves ambiguous in a Filipino context. Since the 1990s some Eskaya have chosen to use the words 'tribe' and 'indigenous' in identifying themselves - I make no judgement. As for studies, see this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8137028/The-Classification-of-the-Eskayan-Language-of-Bohol


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Bohol Tourism | Bohol Travel & Tour / Re: The ESKAYA TRIBES OF BOHOL
« on: March 11, 2009, 06:42:30 AM »
You can see a family tree of Datahan/Sumatra at the facebook group 'Eskaya Cultural Heritage' (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=34913077181&ref=ts)

Thanks for information on Timori, the map (see post above) is getting better and better. Keep the info coming!

Note that I'm also interested in urasyun (Latin-based ritual speech) and Loboc Musicians' Cant (veiled speech).

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Bohol Tourism | Bohol Travel & Tour / Re: The ESKAYA TRIBES OF BOHOL
« on: March 06, 2009, 10:25:07 AM »
Ha! I wrote that wikipedia article (needs updating though)

Alright, the Secret Languages of Bohol map has been started!:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=105628516000530012194.000464535d9102552fb2b&ll=9.87957,124.155121&spn=0.671048,1.230469&z=10

Edit by clicking on the 'edit' button on the left - or just send me an email. I've cut and paste comments from this thread in there. Or just send me an email - pierskelly (at)yahoo.it

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Bohol Tourism | Bohol Travel & Tour / Re: The ESKAYA TRIBES OF BOHOL
« on: March 05, 2009, 07:23:24 AM »
I have never heard the theory that there is a connection between Timori and Eskayan! This is something that I should test since my dissertation is on the Eskayan language.
So, anybody reading this thread - please help! I would like to chart this on a map of Bohol.

To any Boholano reading this, please tell me:
1. What is your birthplace?
2. Did you ever use Timori growing up?

Just reply to this message! When I finish the Timori map I will send out the link!

(PS. I have much to say about Eskaya and the hoax claims which I think could answer most people's questions. But for now, I'm too interested in Timori to comment here)

Piers Kelly
Australian National University

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Bohol Tourism | Bohol Travel & Tour / Re: The ESKAYA TRIBES OF BOHOL
« on: January 08, 2009, 10:41:40 AM »
A game of chess indeed!
From a purely scholarly point of view I'm interested in many of the assumptions/preconceptions that have appeared in this thread. A common theme is that the Eskaya are primitive and uneducated, and therefore in need of leadership and protection. Someone has also commented that the Eskaya culture is not documented and may be in danger of being lost. Another describes Fabian Baja as the 'last leader'.
Sociologically, these emotive reactions are fascinating but as far as I'm concerned they don't coincide with any empirical reality. The Eskaya have sophisticated systems of leadership. They have a tribal council which accords with the requirements of National Commission of Indigenous Peoples, as well cultural authorities embodied in the corps of teachers. The lineage of Datahan and Baja also provide a dynastic authority. Certain members of the group are among some of the most well-educated, multilingual and highly literate people I have ever had the privilege of meeting. There is currently one at the University of Hawaii working with a field methods group on language documentation. For at least seventy years, Eskayan stories and songs have been recorded BY the Eskaya, FOR the Eskaya and IN the Eskayan language through careful handwritten transcriptions. This is cleary a group that is confident in its own identity with little need of outsider support. Anyone who visits the Eskaya might be a little disappointed that they don't conform to the stereotype. They look, dress, eat, live, work, worship pretty much just like the mainstream. What distinguishes them is their cultural knowledge and identity. In the past, outsiders like Jes Tirol, have advanced some pretty interesting theories about the origin of the group which I personally don't support (and neither do many Eskaya!). There's plenty of info available in the Bohol Provincial Library in Tagbilaran from many different writers. Or you can search scribd.com for a document called Visayan-Eskaya Secondary Source Materials where I have attempted to summarise and compare the different points of view. Happy research, and happy New Year!

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General Topic / Eskaya on facebook
« on: November 10, 2008, 12:50:48 PM »
Hi there,
For those who don't know me already, I'm an Australian linguistic researcher studying the Eskayan language of Bohol.
This post is to announce that I have started a facebook group called Eskaya Cultural Heritage.
You have to sign up (free) to facebook in order to see it but anyone who is interested in this aspect of Boholano culture is welcome to join.

 There's only a few photos and family trees at the moment but in time I will add more.

Just go to facebook and type 'Eskaya' into the search bar to find it. Then click 'join this group'.

Enjoy!

Piers Kelly
Research School of Pacific & Asian Studies
The Australian National University
Canberra, Australia

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Mabini - Bohol / Re: History of Mabini, Bohol
« on: June 05, 2008, 12:27:50 PM »
I have some very incomplete family trees for families in Mabini, including Bernal, Bernales, Datahan. Does anyone want a digital copy? Just send me an email with Family Tree Mabini in subject line. My email is pierskelly@yahoo.it

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Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Genealogy Thread
« on: June 04, 2008, 11:33:53 AM »
Hi again,

If you are from Bohol and your family name appears in the list below then I may be able to help you trace your family history. I have just finished entering data of 1061 people registered in government records as part of my PhD.

Contact me at pierskelly@yahoo.it with subject line: 'Bohol family history' (so I know it's not junk mail) and I will send you any relevant family tree information that I have. I also need your help adding info for people who are missing from the records. And please, if you see any names of your friends here, please tell them to contact me!

Here are the names:
AGUANZA
AMADILLA
AMOLO
AMPOLOQUIO
ANINO
AROY
ATUPAN
AVENIDO
AYUNAN
BACALOT
BAGAPORO
BAGOTSAY
BAJA
BALABA
BARBARONA
BASTASA
BERNAL
BERNALES
BERNAS
BERON
BERONILLA
BEROU
BESINGA
BIRATO
BIZAR
BUCA
BUMA-AT
BUMAYA
BUSACO
BUSANO
BUSCAGAN
BUTAWAN
BUTRON
CADIRAO
CADUYAC
CAJES
CALAMBA
CALENDEZ
CALESTE
CALISTE
CARIAS
CASTAÑARES
CAWAY
CEUACAYA(?)
CUADRA
CUREBA
DAGUPLO
DAHAN
DATAHAN
DEGRACIA
DELIGOS
DOTOROT
EDOC
ERONICO
ESCOBAL
ESQUILLA
ESTRELLA
EVANGELISTA
FELICILDA
FISTEN
GALAMBAO
GALORIO
GAMUTAN
GULE
GUMATA
HALINA
HINACAY
INOJALES
JAMERO
JAMILA
KALOLO
LABASTILLA
LADIGO
LAMOSTE
LANTIGUE
LANZADERAS
LAPIZ
LLEMET
LONTOCO
LUSICA
MACALAM
MANUERO
MAQUIDATO
MAQUILANG
MARCOJOS
MASALTA
MASIPIGUINA
MILO
MOLATO
MORENO
MORGIA
MULATO
MURING
NILOGAO
NILUGAO
OLAIVAR
ORAY
OTOS
PADIROG
PALACA
PALMA
PALMITOS
PATESTIS
PATULILIC
PEÑARANDA
PERIHAN
PEROS
PIQUERO
PISCOS
PITOS
PIZAÑA
PORTIAS
PREQUITE
PRESENTES
QUIETA
RANAS
RANES
RAS
RECITAS
REDULLO
RENEGADO
RODRIGUEZ
ROSALINDA
ROSLINDA
SAGURAN
SAGUT
SAJULGA
SANDIGAN
SANGARIOS
SARELES
SEVIDAN
SIMARO
SUMATRA
TACULAO
TAGUPA
TAGUTUNGAN
TAJO
TAN
TEIANO
TENIO
VALMORIA
VIRTUDAZO
ZAMORAS

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Anonymous Diary Blog / Re: Genealogy Thread
« on: May 27, 2008, 01:01:37 PM »
Hi I'm looking for Gerardo Buslon Sumatra from Pilar. I may be able to assist with his family tree. Contact me at pierskelly@yahoo.it

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Anonymous Diary Blog / Lonely Planet Bohol, what's cool, what sux
« on: May 22, 2008, 04:46:57 PM »
Hi my name is Perez and I am an Australian researcher who lived in Bohol last 2005-2006. 
I am soon going to visit Bohol and the rest of the Visayas in order to update the Visayas section of the Lonely Planet guide. If you or any of your readers have any "must sees" for the Visayas please let me know. You can add suggestions to the comments section of this post here. Look forward to hearing from you!

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