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Why God allows suffering?
« on: November 12, 2008, 03:09:07 PM »
I was quite emotional these days because of the news that broke out a couple of days ago; Veterans Bank-UP Branch Robbery, ended with 3 people dead. Two security details and a Roving teller were all gunned down in broad daylight. I’m raging furious to know that evil people really exist. Evil beings who don’t want to live fairly but instead resolve to quick way to riches with total disregard to human lives. The Roving teller happens to be the father of my daughter's classmate in St. Scholasticas College. The victim's wife happens to be our co-parent in the current homeroom class under Grade 6 St-Odo. The husband and wife were our co-parents since Prep level up to now. We used to exchange Hi's and hello's every card distribution and school enrollment. My heart bleeds with the victim's wife and daughters, losing a loved one in this festive season where everybody is suppose to be in a merry making mood. But Christmas season or not, losing a love one altogether is very painful and it doesn’t have to experience one to know one. I was once in such situation; a month before Christmas, I almost lost my entire family due to a vehicular accident along Osmena Highway corner of San Andres Street, because of the irresponsible driving attitude of the cargo truck’s driver and that of the PUJ where my wife and three daughters were riding one Sunday afternoon while on their way to hear a mass. That very same instant, maybe was not yet their time to meet their Creator and I consider it more of a Divine intervention more than pure luck. But a week before that accident, on the very same highway, a former Philippine Senator didn’t get exactly the same luck as I got.

God allowing sufferings to some extent could be because of certain reason. Whilst difficult for us mortals to comprehend but only God knows it and I’m sure this is for our own good. While we can chose to live our life totally in pain brought about by the lost of our loved ones, or we could opt to choose of surrendering all our pains to God. Difficult it may seem but no one could share our grief and understand our pains more than Him.

God communicates with us in so many ways. More often than not in the course of our lives, we only heed to this call when our life is at the brink or in a near death situation, or if we encounter failures in life or approaching the twilight of our days on earth. That's how God loves us. He never intervenes to our free-will. He just let us do our own thing in our own ways and not Him. Mankind hates to be reminded, we hate rules and we hate restriction of our freedom, we keep on wasting our lives living in the world of sin - an entity that separates us from God. And when everything from this effort fails, that's the only time we will realize to call upon Him, worst, curse and blame Him for the things that happened in life. Calling Him unfair for giving us nothing but unjust things. Oh, humans, when we will finally learn from our setting of wrong priorities – the love of money.

You cannot serve two masters at the same time; you will love one and despise the other. But at the end of the day, it is for this priority we had set while living our life on earth that we will all be judged. And I don’t think your money can buy you a good lawyer to save you when the time comes.



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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 03:19:16 PM »
In analysis of your message, Gener.

I thought it best to reiterate some facts:

   1.  Man lives in a universe of cause and effect and the consequences of certain causes are inescapable. Fire burns, water drowns, disease germs destroy. These facts have moral implications. Men live in a universe in which the consequences of what they do are inescapable, and therefore their responsibility for what they do is equally inescapable. Without this burden of 'natural law' man could do as he liked with impunity, and there would be no responsibility. God made the universe this way because He is a moral God who makes men responsible beings with freewill to choose how they will act.
   2. Man's neglect and misuse of his own life has corrupted the stream of human life itself, and left evils which fall on succeeding generations. These, again as part of natural law, may manifest themselves as hereditary weaknesses and tendencies to disease. The very stuff of life may be affected as it is passed on from generation to generation.
   3. The consequences of man's acts are not only directly physical. The social and political evils which they have created throughout history have left a gathering burden on the generations following. People today are caught in a net of the consequences of past history, and even when they try to right one evil, another is brought to bear: "The whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now" (Romans 8:22).



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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 03:28:26 PM »
Magandang araw po Gener,

I was in deep thought because of your posting.  God gave us freewill. If human being choose the wrong side, who are we to judge?
Why God allows suffering?  It is a mystery , we in our small minds can´t cope to understand. I would say we trust God´s mercy. Talk to Jesus in your own words and say how you feel.

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 04:03:49 PM »
for us to grow, deepen our faith in Him....

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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 04:20:12 PM »
These hapless and gruesome events occuring around day in and day out, serve us as a reminder of the Omnipotent God, His presence in us that as a human being we easily forget. It bleeds really to hear and witness people grieving their lost loved ones falling victims of these inhuman acts. Nobody in this respect is immune to that kind of situation. Only time will tell. But on the positive point of view, we look so envious on the side of the victims because God recall their lives here on earth that early so as not to prolong the agony they have to suffer in this troubled world while alive.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 04:28:33 PM »
mao ni ang unod sa kanta ni gary v. "natutulog ba ang dios?"

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 04:35:12 PM »
Mao nay giingon nila nga "Life is full of pressures to make each human being alive grow and become mature." We certainly know this fact is inevitable but we just have to prepare ourselves for our turn. Anyway, nobody escapes life alive, di ba?

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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2008, 12:39:07 AM »
We are subjected to incidents in life that may seem inopportune to us, but think of it more of a test. A predicament. Prove your faith.

And remember that being weak does not necessarily mean loosing favor with The Most High.

As it has been said:

And He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness." Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.
--2 Corinthians 12:9

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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2008, 11:21:01 AM »
He/she who does not suffer, does not know love. He/she who loves overcomes suffering. 

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2008, 04:00:22 AM »
It is in suffering that we show our true colors and our need of God.

Suffering, lowliness and humility, is what bridges us to God. It is when pride is removed, remove pride, and you remove the obstacle that disconnects God and Man.

Job was tested in suffering, yet his faith was unwavering. David was tested, and his faith was strong. Even Abraham was tested and humbled, and it was in his lowliness and suffering that the Love of God was made perfect in him.

Staying true to faith and to God even in the most desperate times is when we are most beautiful. We remember our places, our linkage with Almighty Providence, who is provides the umbilical cord to our lives.

We suffer because we sin. We sin because of the fall of Man in Eden.

It will continue till our death. And death, in itself, is the ultimate form of suffering. Yet, in faith, we believe in a resurrection, that will conquer the pain of sin and death.

And that, is in Christ Jesus.

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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2008, 05:10:51 AM »
Why God allows suffering?

When my Nanay died in a tragic incident, I asked to my self  "why it should happen at this time? (I was ready to fly for Canada at that time). You know what? I keep it in mind that " God's answer to my prayer maybe  negative, but His purpose is positive. Maybe it was too late for us (her children) to reconcile and forgive each other, but we, her children stay stronger and more respectful.

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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2008, 05:24:59 AM »
I was once rejected by a Roman Catholic priest at St. Joseph Cathedral in Bohol during my confession way back 2005.

I haven't started  confessing my sins at that time. I was just about to tell him my story and reason why I confess. Maybe he was listening without comprehension and he just said: Tindog lakaw na. I felt afraid and ashamed to my self. I didn't even know where I was seated.  I was shaking and really scared. I went home to my sister's house and cried and cried.

A week after that, I was able to tell my experience to Rev. Fr. Val Pinlac. I cried really hard in front of him in his office. And finally he gave me a blessing. Thanks Father Pinlac.

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 08:12:03 AM »
 Re: suffering: why do we suffer?

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Well, first, my personal belief is that part of the Redemption is that Jesus taught us *how* to suffer. The proper Catholic response to suffering is to say, "Jesus endured far worse than this, and He didn't deserve it. I deserve to suffer for all eternity in Hell for my sins, so I should embrace this. Jesus, I offer up my sufferings with your sacrifice on the Cross."

When we talk about "suffering", we must remember that "suffering" is an emotional state. We "suffer" from many things, and it is important to distinguish those causes.

1) Suffering we receive from others' sins and cruelty. This is obviously a consequence of original sin. It is what Socrates refers to when he says, "It is better to suffer wrong than to do it." This would not exist without original sin, but even those without original sin--Jesus and Mary--experience it.

2) Suffering from physical illness, deformity, etc. Regardless of whether illnesses or deformities *existed* in an unfallen world, it is very clear that they would not have caused *suffering*. Why? Our suffering from these problems is directly proportionate to our own selfishness.

I've written more elaborately on these distinctions in the past (in my master's thesis, for example), but can't think offhand of what I formulated.

But I've always wanted to write a book called, "The Divine Practical Joke": we suffer because God finds it funny.

No matter what we complain about in this life, it is *nothing* compared to Heaven or Hell. No matter how bad things are here, for a short time, the Beatific Vision would wipe it away for ages of ages. On the other hand, if we end up in Hell, the sufferings there are far worse than the worst we experience here. In either case, complaining about suffering in this life is rather silly.

The fact that we suffer-that we have this selfish, "woe is me" reaction to inconvenience--is a consequence of original sin. But suffering itself, properly embraced, is the cure of original sin.
 

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 08:14:17 AM »
Re: suffering: why do we suffer?

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The Trinity is an eternal process of the three Persons giving Themselves over to one another in an exchange of Love.

Suffering teaches us how to love.

When we act for others out of love, we are going to suffer. When we voluntarily suffer--when we perform penances and self-mortifications--we condition ourselves to suffer. We pray that we can take upon ourselves the sufferng that others are undergoing.

This physically and spiritually conditions us to be more self-sacrficiing. When we undergo illnesses and harship in our lives, and we learn to accept these trials, we learn to be more selfless. Again, the main reason we see these things as "problems" is that we are sinful and self-centered. Enduring these trials teaches us humility.

THen, when it comes to actualy giving of ourselves in love to others--whether in marriage, religious life, the priesthood, charitable works, our careers, etc.--we will be *more* giving and *more* generous because we are willing to accept the suffering that comes from being generous.

Too many people go around thinking that Christianity is somehow supposed to be about "happiness," that, "If you just believe in Jesus, He'll take away all your problems."

You can read all the encyclicals and apologetics you want to, but it ain't gonna solve the real issue.

A good novel or poem will do a lot better for you than a theological treatise (I recommend C. S. Lewis's _Till We Have Faces_, and just about anything by T. S. Eliot).

If you really want to understand suffering, study the lives and spirituality of the Saints.

Pray the Stations of the Cross without the cop-out "fifteenth station". Pray the fifteen prayers of St. Bridget of Sweden.

Read _The Story of a Soul_ and _Fatima: In Lucia's Own Words_.

Practice the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.

And, most of all, *do it* . Start practicing fasting and self-mortification. When you're stuck in traffic, instead of cussing people out, offer it up.
When you break a dish, offer it up.

I once said to my father, "Dad, when I golf, I pray, then I swing. When you golf, you do just the opposite."

When you swing at your metaphorical golf ball and miss, don't swear; stop and think about how maybe you didn't take your action virtuously or prayerfully enough, and ask God's forgiveness.

"Do small things with great love."

*This* will teach you about suffering.
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 08:19:46 AM »
Romans 8:18: "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth being compared with the glory that is about to be revealed to us!"

Romans 8:17: "We must also share in his suffering, if we are to share in his glory."

John 16:33: "In this world you will have tribulation. But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." (Or as another translations puts it: "Take courage, I've deprived it of its power to harm and conquer you.")

James 5:13: "Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray."

1 Peter 4:12: "Do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you. But to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing." And verse 19 says: "Let those who suffer ... entrust their souls to a faithful Creator. . ."

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2008, 12:47:09 PM »
IT IS good for us to have trials and troubles at times, for they often remind us that we are on probation and ought not to hope in any worldly thing. It is good for us sometimes to suffer contradiction, to be misjudged by people even though we do well and mean well. These things help us to be humble and shield us from vainglory. When to all outward appearances people give us no credit, when they do not think well of us, then we are more inclined to seek God Who sees our hearts. Therefore, a person ought to root himself so firmly in God that he will not need the consolations of people.
When a person of good will is afflicted, tempted, and tormented by evil thoughts, they realizes clearly that thier greatest need is God, without Whom they can do no good. Saddened by their miseries and sufferings, they laments and prays. They wearies of living longer and wishes for death that theymight be dissolved and be with Christ. Then they understands fully that perfect security and complete peace cannot be found on earth.SO LONG as we live in this world we cannot escape suffering.





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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2008, 09:35:01 PM »
I found another answer to this question from the Bible and if I may share verses from Romans 8:17-22

Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs
with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also
share in his glory. I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the
glory that will be revealed in us.

The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be
revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice,
but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of
childbirth right up to the present time.


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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 09:19:43 AM »
sometimes when i feel having suffered, this song helps me remind of trusting my self to Him.

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2008, 02:10:39 PM »
Its just part of the cycle, i think.

Kay we cant appreciate the beauty of life without it...

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2008, 08:54:22 AM »
Suffering is an essential part of our lives to help us grow more mature and responsible.

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2008, 05:38:14 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2008, 05:43:25 PM »
Christ Jesus, suffered on the cross for us.
God Made Flesh, God WITH Us, died for us.
Suffered Death for Us.

Does one not understand the total LOVE our Lord has for us?
To suffer such humility? That salvation was purchased at such a great price?

That with His sacrifice, God and Man was reconciled.

If Christ suffered for our own sakes, our own difficulties and pains cannot even compare. Suffering is mandated. Since the fall of Adam.

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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2008, 12:22:48 PM »
suffering makes love even stronger....

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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2008, 01:53:21 PM »
I really dont know if God wants us to suffer....

I call it The Circle of life...it is nature.

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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2008, 08:20:28 PM »
i think the question should have been, "Does God allow suffering?"

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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2008, 08:31:33 PM »
Or, we may put it this way, "Is suffering allowed by God?"

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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2008, 09:52:41 PM »
My answer is, either way.

Jesus had shown us the way. He suffers at the hand of the those who persecuted Him just to prove that in our lives, there will be 'resurrection' after 'crucifixion'.

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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2008, 10:12:47 PM »
no.
i think people should realize this first if suffering is God's imposition or not.

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2008, 10:42:49 PM »
Suffering is never a handiwork of God. It is from the devil who direly wanted us to hate our God. God is there always to protect you from harm should you come and embrace Him thru your unwavering faith in Him.

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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2008, 12:30:35 AM »

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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2008, 02:10:35 AM »
Suffering is never a handiwork of God. It is from the devil who direly wanted us to hate our God. God is there always to protect you from harm should you come and embrace Him thru your unwavering faith in Him.
exaclty, lay. cos this old argument about "Why God allows suffering?" has somehow put God on trial, each time disaster happens to us, to good people, to innocent people. It seems this question begs Him to answer our 'whys' coupled with our personal understanding of God's omnipotence and all-embracing love. We so ask 'could not God have prevented it, rather than allowing it?" which is not the way things should be, owing to the fact that God's way is not our way.
But because Sin entered humanity, we are no longer immune to suffer. Jesus' suffering can be understood in this light: this is to tell us Our God is compassionate, He suffers with and for us. And that we have our greatest company and friend in Jesus...who endures suffering and death. Only in Jesus, suffering can find new meaning...


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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2008, 02:53:32 AM »
God has no obligation to answer any questions from us mere mortals. He is God after all. The moment we recognize the absolute sovereignty of God and His absolute perfection and goodness, we will be awed by the fact that God had no obligation to create us humans. If He chooses to destroy the world and humanity in a second, who can question Him? And who can stop Him?

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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2008, 08:24:25 AM »
That's exactly correct Mike. God's omnipotence is aweful and who are we, creatures in his likeness, to question his Will?

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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2008, 10:53:45 AM »
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT SUFFERING:

Romans 8:18: "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth being compared with the glory that is about to be revealed to us!"

Romans 8:17: "We must also share in his suffering, if we are to share in his glory."

John 16:33: "In this world you will have tribulation. But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." (Or as another translations puts it: "Take courage, I've deprived it of its power to harm and conquer you.")

James 5:13: "Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray."

1 Peter 4:12: "Do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you. But to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing." And verse 19 says: "Let those who suffer ... entrust their souls to a faithful Creator.


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Re: Why God allows suffering?
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Some Christians Suffer Because of the Chastisement of God

As a Christian, it is my duty to live a Christ-honoring and obedient life before God. If I become disobedient, the Bible says that my Heavenly Father will rebuke and chasten me (To "chasten" is to punish or correct for moral improvement.) Revelation 3:19 says, "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent." Notice these important words from Hebrews 12:6-8: "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons." Just as any responsible father disciplines his children when they become disobedient, God disciplines His children. Paul says in I Corinthians 11:31-32 that we can often avoid God's chastisement by JUDGING OURSELVES instead of ignoring our sins, thus forcing God to judge us. Addressing Christians, John tells us that, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (I Jn. 1:9) It is my Christian responsibility to do my very best to live a sinless life, but when I do sin I must repent and CONFESS my sins to God. If I choose not to do so, then I am being a disobedient child, and my Heavenly Father will rebuke and chasten me. Sad as it may be, many Christians are going through tragedy today because they refuse to confess their sins to the Lord and repent.



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Re: Why God allows suffering?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2008, 01:00:00 PM »
What gospel according to Book of Romans had said:

8  But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still
sinners, Christ died for us.

8:17  Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs
with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also
share in his glory.

18  I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the
glory that will be revealed in us.

19  The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be
revealed.

20-26  For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice,
but by the will of the one who subjected it,
in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of
childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption
of our bodies. In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know
what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with
groans that words cannot express.

We are commanded to suffer with Christ.

PHI 1:29  For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to
believe on him, but also to suffer for him,

2:27  Indeed he was ill, and almost died. But God had mercy on him, and not
on him only but also on me, to spare me sorrow upon sorrow.

28  Therefore I am all the more eager to send him, so that when you see him
again you may be glad and I may have less anxiety.

29  Welcome him in the Lord with great joy, and honor men like him,

30  because he almost died for the work of Christ, risking his life to make
up for the help you could not give me.

3:10  I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the
fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,

COL 1:24  Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my
flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake
of his body, which is the church.

1TH 5:9  For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive
salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

10  He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live
together with him.

ALL MUST SUFFER TO BE COUNTED WORTHY OF THE KINGDOM

2THE 1:4  Therefore, among God's churches we boast about your perseverance
and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring.

5  All this is evidence that God's judgment is right, and as a result you
will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.

2TI 2:12  if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he
will also disown us;

HEB 2:9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now
crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the
grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

10  In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and
through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation
perfect through suffering.

14  Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their
humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of
death--that is, the devil--

18  Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help
those who are being tempted.

5:8  Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered

9  and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for
all who obey him

9:15  For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those
who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he
has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the
first covenant.

16  In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one
who made it,

28  so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and
he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to
those who are waiting for him.

10:10  And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of
the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

18  And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice
for sin.

19  Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy
Place by the blood of Jesus,

20  by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his
body,

JAM 5:10  Brothers, as an example of patience in the face of suffering,
take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord.

JESUS LEAVING AN EXAMPLE FOR US TO FOLLOW

1PE 2:21  To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving
you an example, that you should follow in his steps.

24  He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die
to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed.

3:18  For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the
unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made
alive by the Spirit,

4:1  Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with
the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with
sin.

OUR REWARD AFTER SUFFERING

13  But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that
you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed.

14  If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for
the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.

5:10  And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in
Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you
and make you strong, firm and steadfast.

1JO 3:16  This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life
for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers

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