Author Topic: Please Yourself First (Read 8203 times)

hazel · « **Reply #40 on:** November 02, 2007, 02:13:20 AM »

and that's what love is all about...giving.

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junayag · « **Reply #41 on:** November 02, 2007, 09:57:22 PM »

and you cannot give love if you dont know how to love...you cannot give happiness if you're not happy... you cannot give antyhing when you dont have any... as such when it overflows... there is joy in giving...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #42 on:** November 02, 2007, 10:21:28 PM »

Jun tinuod gyud na...

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hazel · « **Reply #43 on:** November 02, 2007, 10:22:49 PM »

i love you all!

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junayag · « **Reply #44 on:** November 02, 2007, 10:37:39 PM »

hope that by knowing ourself and of others... our strengths, weaknesses, we will learn to love each other as part of a happy one family....

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grazie7y · « **Reply #45 on:** November 02, 2007, 11:27:59 PM »

I say Amen to that Jun. When I was reading the recent posts we had, the song - I don't know who sang this song but I kept thinking this line: Sana'y pag-ibig na lang ang isipin ng bawat isa sa mundo, sana'y laging magbigayan, sana'y laging magmahalan...

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Glen · « **Reply #46 on:** November 03, 2007, 11:43:53 AM »

Grace nice avatar snow man lagi na asa man ka ana?

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grazie7y · « **Reply #47 on:** November 03, 2007, 12:44:10 PM »

sa Lake Tahoe na sya, Glen. Ali, adto ta!

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junayag · « **Reply #48 on:** November 04, 2007, 03:03:25 AM »

grazie, that's a nice lyric"sanay pag-ibig nalang ang isipin ng bawat isa sa mundo".am so touched, and hoping everybody would be touched...

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grazie7y · « **Reply #49 on:** November 04, 2007, 01:34:13 PM »

thanks, jun! lagi ba, why do we choose to hate instead of love each other? why do we opt to fight instead of having peace and harmony?

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junayag · « **Reply #50 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:06:07 AM »

kanindot no kung ang tanang tawo maoy sulod ang gugma sa ilang dughan??

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #51 on:** November 05, 2007, 12:53:49 PM »

it could make the world a better place to live Jun...

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junayag · « **Reply #52 on:** November 06, 2007, 01:20:58 AM »

but it is not the trend that it is going...moving... more conflicts exist, they've changed the perspective of loving... just look for those suicide bombers... how could you reconcile loving themselves and have that courage to inflict pain to others through loving their own life....by ending.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #53 on:** November 06, 2007, 10:30:33 AM »

I'd say it's stupidity or maybe misguided ideology! I still can't fathom the thought that these suicide bombers actually believe that they are secured of space in heaven (note: we also have heaven thread) if they kill themselves, bringing with them innocent people - young and old and leaving behind distruction of properties and most importantly distruction of lives of the families left behind? What do they think their God is? A sadist? It's only God who has the complete volition of our lives and not suicide bombers or bad elements who kill people.

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junayag · « **Reply #54 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:46:54 AM »

mao bitaw nga lisod dawaton ang ilang pagtoo...? but what they're doing is pleasing themselves? or pleasing their masters? speculated that they're coerced...

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grazie7y · « **Reply #55 on:** November 07, 2007, 02:20:22 AM »

I need to understand jud, Jun! Unsa pa man coersion na either way, mamatay man gihapon sila if in case gi threaten sila na patyon if dili mag agree to be a suicide bomber. At least, if patyon sila, dili sila ang criminal and they will be accepted by God unlike na sila ang mamamatay tao!

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hazel · « **Reply #56 on:** November 07, 2007, 02:22:59 AM »

sayop man ilang belief even if they thought about there religion.

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junayag · « **Reply #57 on:** November 08, 2007, 01:47:17 AM »

coercion might involved other parties in the family (kadtong mabilin), I believed na duna say monetary rewards gibilin sa ilang nahibilin nga miembro sa banay...could not reconcile if the sole reason is loving their own life...nga tua sigurado sa heaven?...

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grazie7y · « **Reply #58 on:** November 08, 2007, 03:15:16 AM »

still, the end does not justify the means but I doubt jud that's anywhere closer to what is acceptable to God. Very distorted na kaayo ilang beliefs.

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junayag · « **Reply #59 on:** November 08, 2007, 04:46:41 AM »

it is fanaticism...of corrupted belief.. but still that is another aspect of pleasing oneself?

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grazie7y · « **Reply #60 on:** November 08, 2007, 04:49:22 AM »

it's amazing at what length people do to please oneself or some other people.

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junayag · « **Reply #61 on:** November 08, 2007, 04:58:08 AM »

really.... but they don't deserved to be emulated...

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grazie7y · « **Reply #62 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:01:01 AM »

of course! I feel so bad for these young people who are still gullible. They can easily be brainwashed.

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junayag · « **Reply #63 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:09:03 AM »

but this is only true to the rapidly growing religion? and not with our tribe...

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hazel · « **Reply #64 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:10:42 AM »

nganong kamo ra man duha dire nag kukabildo?

religion can be very confusing to other people especially if they lack faith.

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grazie7y · « **Reply #65 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:10:52 AM »

is Islam a rapidly growing religion?

Oh my! you are right!

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junayag · « **Reply #66 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:16:24 AM »

yes, gisulti pa gyod nimo.......there are some fallacies of what is happening....

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grazie7y · « **Reply #67 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:19:09 AM »

hahahah sorry po!

Is that really about their religion or their distorted understanding of their religion or some leaders not necessarily related to religion?

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junayag · « **Reply #68 on:** November 08, 2007, 05:22:42 AM »

the bottom line of our discussion now is.... whatever belief you have is in line with your conviction that give meaning to you, thereby pleasing oneself...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #69 on:** November 08, 2007, 10:03:15 AM »

i just want to share this to you guys...

part I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXT8vP4TshY

part II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gese3ucXdY8

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junayag · « **Reply #70 on:** November 08, 2007, 06:36:51 PM »

Moraility Without God??? I do believe that every human being has its own God, how he dwell on his belief even saying without God is not true at all...we all believe that there is a Creator...

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grazie7y · « **Reply #71 on:** November 09, 2007, 04:10:07 AM »

Moraility Without God??? I do believe that every human being has its own God, how he dwell on his belief even saying without God is not true at all...we all believe that there is a Creator...

Jun, I believe that not all people believe there is a Creator at all - either they are brought up that way or they are too smart to accept that there is one Divine God who is responsible in creating the universe. It is so difficult to argue on this to people because they are not out there to listen but to make you believe what they believed in. My brother in law here has a friend who is an atheist (Michael Newdow). At one time, we were to see in one party and they were kind of excited and yes, I was excited too because I was gonna tell him, God bless you! But he didn't show up in the party...

I viewed the youtube that ms da binsi shared - just the first part. I have to admit that the guy pointed some issue that sound so believable. He was trying to selectively choose bible scriptures that can negate the churchs' teachings. There was one question though that he raised that made me wonder. He said, which God to choose? Do you believe that "every human being has it's own God"? As Catholics, we do believe in the Trinity but the bottomline is there's only one Creator and my understanding is God the Father is the Creator. Whatever religion we believe in, we are all children of one Creator. We may call him Daddy and others call him Tatay or Papa or their first name but he is one and the same father. Am I wrong, Jun?

They said that religion for a topic is a bottomless pit...

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ms da binsi · « **Reply #72 on:** November 09, 2007, 04:20:21 AM »

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grazie7y · « **Reply #73 on:** November 09, 2007, 04:26:50 AM »

hhahahah got yeah, belle!

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Scarb · « **Reply #74 on:** November 09, 2007, 06:13:49 AM »

if we are contented in every things we have in life..
we are then happy..in dat matter we please ourselves...

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junayag · « **Reply #75 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:41:57 PM »

you're on the loop BlueAngel...when one reaches happiness, gratification... it is pleasing oneself...by then you could give happiness to others...

grazie... you are correct in saying that the Creator every man looked up to is his God, regardless of whoever and whatever...it is his faith that built the religion to himself... I don't believe on full-bloodied-aethiest...for am sure in his lifetime even for a millisecond, he/she had called and thanked some one when some thing matters to his / her life...

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 19, 2009, 04:16:07 AM »

i like this thread...maybe some of you, who were previously in this topic, would want to revive your discussion.

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hofelina · « **Reply #77 on:** February 19, 2009, 04:24:10 AM »

yes, I would love to but as mother of 2 kids my children has my priorities. I can´t imagine meeting friends enjoying parties and I´m not sure if they are at home , have eaten well and okay.

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Lorenzo · « **Reply #78 on:** February 19, 2009, 04:28:25 AM »

Thanks for resurrecting this thread, pare.

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glacier_71 · « **Reply #79 on:** February 19, 2009, 04:53:58 AM »

"Nemo dat quod non habit" (You cannot give what you don't have.)

If this life has meaning, i must first discover it from ME.
What drives me to happiness is when I first feel I am loved by ME.
i love you because i love me.

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